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[Guest guest]

I don't belong to TAA because as an individual I don't have the money to

spend on it. I also have had to cut back on my trips to Austin for meetings

now

that I'm retired and on a fixed income. So I'm forced to watch from the

sidelines and comment from my perspective here at Rattlesnake Hill.

When I was a member of the EMSAT board, I found that I was spending about

$3,500 per year, unreimbursed, for expenses just to attend the meetings and the

GETAC meetings. I can no longer afford to do that.

Lots of the folks who get to go to Austin to meetings get their expenses paid

by their employers. I don't. So that's why you don't see me there

anymore.

Gene

> Gene,

>   

>   Why don't you call their dogs ugly...I bet that gets them. Or you could

> double dawg dare them.....that would really show them who's boss.

>   

>   Or maybe the reason there has been a lack of response is because you just

> posted the question YESTERDAY evening.......Jeepers.........I know that you

> might find it hard to believe but not everyone checks in here multiple times a

> day. GET A LIFE YOU IRASCIBLE OL' CURMUDGEON. <grin>

>   

>   Seriously Gene, of course the TAA is not for the unfettered warm body

> approach that you describe. Our desire is for an even, quality focused,

playing

> field for all those that are in the business. We also agree that the current

> situation is out of control and thus far there has been no plan offered to

> stop this revolving door. Rules are in place but there is not enough staff to

> enforce them Law enforcement can't get them all but it sure is nice to see

them

> trying.  We are working within the framework that is established while we

> continue to provide input to anyone that would listen about what we think

needs

> to be changed and offering our money, time and support to help with the

> changes.

>   

>   Of course you know all of that because you are at all the TAA

> meetings.......aren't you?  Gene, surely you are not just one of those people

that won't

> go to the meetings or offer any input but would rather sit here on this list

> and throw bombs about what everyone else is not doing.

>   

>   Dave

>   

>   

>  

> wegandy1938@... wrote:

>   Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this situation.   I

> find

> it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written by anybody

> from that organization on this subject.   I know some of them monitor this

> list. 

>

> Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue?   Could it

> be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is made up of a

> bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

>

> Nah.   Or,   well, maybe?   Hmmmm.   We'll see.

>

> Gene G.

>

>

> The comments contained in this correspondence are the sole responsibility of

> the author. They do not necessarily reflect the thoughts, feelings, or

> opinions of my employer, or any other group or organization that I may be, am

> perceived to be, have been or will be involved with in the future. They are my

> own comments, submitted freely and they are worth exactly what you paid for

> them.

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[Guest guest]

I am in perfect agreement. Let's have some set rules about job postings

which require the name and license number of the organization.

Gene G.

> When I was looking for a job, I always bypassed places that just had

> a phone number. My thought is that if you were trying to hide your

> name, what else are you hiding from me? Why won't you share your

> company name or salary range with me?

>

> Not everyone does their homework, but even so, those who don't

> shouldn't have to get screwed simply because they are naive or

> ignorant. Most of us here would rather take less and work for a

> known provider then some new company with only a few months in

> business.

>

> I will admit that when I finally got fed up with EMS and got screwed

> twice (once by a municipal service on pay and the second time by a

> private service) I called DSHS and asked for a list of services in

> good standing. Then I started asking friends about these services,

> and finally I went and asked their employees what they thought about

> the service. The few hours of work has provided me with employment

> at a service I like working for.

>

> I will say it here, EMS in Houston is the most corrupt industry I

> have ever seen. Could you imagine if the media ever got a hold of

> what goes on in EMS in Houston? Dateline could run a years worth of

> episodes on nothing but the corruption of EMS in Houston. The

> problem is that it makes it hard to find good employees and a good

> employer because of the over whelming scum in EMS (both sides) who

> need to be eliminated (how is for another post at another time).

>

> Yet another problem that I have faced in the Houston area has to do

> with other services trying to hire me while I'm working. I have been

> approached by one service in the Clear Lake area who's employees

> have tried to offer me a job while I was still patient loaded. I

> will not name this service on the board, but I will say that trying

> to hire me while I bag a patient is probably not the best way to

> find quality employees.

>

> I here it all the time, so and so is paying this or that. I might

> not be the highest paid, but at least I know my job is there day

> after day, my pay check clears the bank, and I don't have DSHS and

> the FBI asking me questions.

>

> So in conclusion, I think that the moderators should require so much

> information to be provided in " now hiring " posts. We can't control

> what the news paper does, but we can control what goes on in here. I

> would think that protecting the members of this online community

> would be of top concern for the moderators.

>

> Nate

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Gene,

A ... I'm glad to see you active again, and 2 ... I'd be willing to fund

some of your trips to meetings just to have an active " doer " for EMS. As much

as I want to, I don't have the time or energy or smarts for that matter to

help with positive changes in EMS, but I would love to see it happen. I could

name at least 20 people in Texas that could come together and make things

happen ... in my opinion. Talk, talk, talk ... you brain children need to make

it happen. Actually, I'm sure there are more than 20 people, but just some of

the folks on this list could do powerful stuff if they came together and

" did " instead of just " talk. "

There are many of us who would be very supportive and I feel there are many

out there who would support that aren't on this list that don't have the

knowledge of what's going on.

Blah, blah, blah, where do I send the check to help you help us in EMS?

, LP, RN

In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:05:54 PM Central Standard Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

I don't belong to TAA because as an individual I don't have the money to

spend on it. I also have had to cut back on my trips to Austin for

meetings now

that I'm retired and on a fixed income. So I'm forced to watch from the

sidelines and comment from my perspective here at Rattlesnake Hill.

When I was a member of the EMSAT board, I found that I was spending about

$3,500 per year, unreimbursed, for expenses just to attend the meetings and

the

GETAC meetings. I can no longer afford to do that.

Lots of the folks who get to go to Austin to meetings get their expenses

paid

by their employers. I don't. So that's why you don't see me there

anymore.

Gene

> Gene,

>

> Why don't you call their dogs ugly...I bet that gets them. Or you could

> double dawg dare them.....that would really show them who's boss.

>

> Or maybe the reason there has been a lack of response is because you

just

> posted the question YESTERDAY evening.......Jeepers.........I know that

you

> might find it hard to believe but not everyone checks in here multiple

times a

> day. GET A LIFE YOU IRASCIBLE OL' CURMUDGEON. <grin>

>

> Seriously Gene, of course the TAA is not for the unfettered warm body

> approach that you describe. Our desire is for an even, quality focused,

playing

> field for all those that are in the business. We also agree that the

current

> situation is out of control and thus far there has been no plan offered to

> stop this revolving door. Rules are in place but there is not enough staff

to

> enforce them Law enforcement can't get them all but it sure is nice to see

them

> trying. We are working within the framework that is established while we

> continue to provide input to anyone that would listen about what we think

needs

> to be changed and offering our money, time and support to help with the

> changes.

>

> Of course you know all of that because you are at all the TAA

> meetings.......aren't you? Gene, surely you are not just one of those

people that won't

> go to the meetings or offer any input but would rather sit here on this

list

> and throw bombs about what everyone else is not doing.

>

> Dave

>

>

>

> wegandy1938@... wrote:

> Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this situation. I

> find

> it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written by anybody

> from that organization on this subject. I know some of them monitor this

> list.

>

> Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

> be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is made up of a

> bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

>

> Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

>

> Gene G.

>

>

> The comments contained in this correspondence are the sole responsibility

of

> the author. They do not necessarily reflect the thoughts, feelings, or

> opinions of my employer, or any other group or organization that I may be,

am

> perceived to be, have been or will be involved with in the future. They

are my

> own comments, submitted freely and they are worth exactly what you paid

for

> them.

>

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[Guest guest]

When I was looking for a job, I always bypassed places that just had

a phone number. My thought is that if you were trying to hide your

name, what else are you hiding from me? Why won't you share your

company name or salary range with me?

Not everyone does their homework, but even so, those who don't

shouldn't have to get screwed simply because they are naive or

ignorant. Most of us here would rather take less and work for a

known provider then some new company with only a few months in

business.

I will admit that when I finally got fed up with EMS and got screwed

twice (once by a municipal service on pay and the second time by a

private service) I called DSHS and asked for a list of services in

good standing. Then I started asking friends about these services,

and finally I went and asked their employees what they thought about

the service. The few hours of work has provided me with employment

at a service I like working for.

I will say it here, EMS in Houston is the most corrupt industry I

have ever seen. Could you imagine if the media ever got a hold of

what goes on in EMS in Houston? Dateline could run a years worth of

episodes on nothing but the corruption of EMS in Houston. The

problem is that it makes it hard to find good employees and a good

employer because of the over whelming scum in EMS (both sides) who

need to be eliminated (how is for another post at another time).

Yet another problem that I have faced in the Houston area has to do

with other services trying to hire me while I'm working. I have been

approached by one service in the Clear Lake area who's employees

have tried to offer me a job while I was still patient loaded. I

will not name this service on the board, but I will say that trying

to hire me while I bag a patient is probably not the best way to

find quality employees.

I here it all the time, so and so is paying this or that. I might

not be the highest paid, but at least I know my job is there day

after day, my pay check clears the bank, and I don't have DSHS and

the FBI asking me questions.

So in conclusion, I think that the moderators should require so much

information to be provided in " now hiring " posts. We can't control

what the news paper does, but we can control what goes on in here. I

would think that protecting the members of this online community

would be of top concern for the moderators.

Nate

[Guest guest]

I am not a member of TAA. I can't say that I either support it or that I do

not. It's a trade organization for ambulance owners, and I'm more

interested in the interests of individual medics.

That's why I am a member of and support EMSAT. I do think TAA does and has

done some good things, but I view it as being a trade organization, rather

than broadly representative of the interests of EMS.

Gene G.

> Gene,

> Just curious are you a member or do you support the TAA?

> Mike

>

>

>

>

>

> >   Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

> situation.   I find

> > it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written by

> anybody

> > from that organization on this subject.   I know some of them

> monitor this list. 

> >

> > Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue?   Could it

> > be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is made

> up of a bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

> >

> > Nah.   Or,   well, maybe?   Hmmmm.   We'll see.

> >

> > Gene G.

> >

> >

> > The comments contained in this correspondence are the sole

> responsibility of the author. They do not necessarily reflect the

> thoughts, feelings, or opinions of my employer, or any other group

> or organization that I may be, am perceived to be, have been or will

> be involved with in the future. They are my own comments, submitted

> freely and they are worth exactly what you paid for them.

> >        

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[Guest guest]

I too do not wish further government intervention unless absolutely needed.

The problem as I see it posted on this list (and have seen first hand working

for the FNB's) is that the regulation along with a healthy set of teeth to

assure proper regulation, is not there.

There has to be a way to get this to come about without setting limits that

may, or then again may not; limit the services for a large metropolitan area and

possibly the services for the rural areas as well.

The " Cream Of The Crop " will usually be around long after the FNB's have

folded.

I would have to state that until we become a " needed " resource like that of

Fire and Law Enforcement with our legislature setting this into law, that we

will continue to have these problems.

I get concerned when we talk about limiting the number of services or only

wanting the local governmental agencies to allow EMS services to operate. As

long as we allow the local politicians to control what we as EMS professionals

make (without allowing them to make a significant amout off of us) we will

continue to have to be on assistance programs to be able to feed our families.

As stated in Economics 101, supply and demand is what drives wages up. We

have a limited supply, the demand is great, so where are the wages?

We need to come together on what our wages should be. This is an employer

issue. We need to assure the recovery for services is there. This is a

regulation issue.

As long as we are in the mode to think that our services should be less

expensive than that of a plumber we will be stuck in the same dugout. But then

again life has always taken a backdoor to making money.

Where is the answer? I believe it is in organizing and becoming a strong

force. Other professions have seen this and it appears it worked. We need to

form a strong force here in Texas if change is to come about.

That is why I joined EMSAT. I haven't seen much come of this yet though.

Ok my rambling is finished for now.

wegandy1938@... wrote:

The subject of requiring a provider to do 911 was broached by Bob Kellow

after I mentioned that I was now thinking that certificates of need might be a

good thing for Texas.

Bob said that certificates of need have been politicized and have been

difficult to administer. So I said that perhaps the requirement that any EMS

service be engaged in 911 wouldn't be a bad idea.

Now, there are many possible views of this and many positions to take. You

have now stated some interesting questions.

What we need is a good, free-wheeling debate about how to limit the

ridiculous proliferation of EMS providers while still maintaining fundamental

freedoms

in marketing.

However, there are certain areas of business that need to be regulated more

stringently than the Mom and Pop Donut Shop. I submit that EMS service is one

of them.

Yes, people do die from donuts, but not for a long time. People can die

from incompetent EMS, and it happens all the time.

Worse, the job market for Paramedics is good now, and that makes it even more

important that every individual looking for a job realizes that there are

some employers, maybe many employers, who are out and out crooks. And they need

to watch out for them.

I hate government regulation. It's against my nature. But there are times

when it's the only way to control functions that can do great harm if not

controlled.

Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this situation. I find

it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written by anybody

from that organization on this subject. I know some of them monitor this list.

Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is made up of a bunch

of

fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

Gene G.

Danny L.

Owner/NREMT-P

Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response

(PETSAR)

Office

Fax

[Guest guest]

Gene,

Just curious are you a member or do you support the TAA?

Mike

> Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

situation. I find

> it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written by

anybody

> from that organization on this subject. I know some of them

monitor this list.

>

> Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

> be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is made

up of a bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

>

> Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

>

> Gene G.

>

>

> The comments contained in this correspondence are the sole

responsibility of the author. They do not necessarily reflect the

thoughts, feelings, or opinions of my employer, or any other group

or organization that I may be, am perceived to be, have been or will

be involved with in the future. They are my own comments, submitted

freely and they are worth exactly what you paid for them.

>

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[Guest guest]

Problem is that there will always be FNB's to replace the ones that

exit the market. EMS is also over saturated with industry groups

that get nothing done because they can't all agree to come together

as one large group to represent EMS.

> The subject of requiring a provider to do 911 was broached by

Bob Kellow

> after I mentioned that I was now thinking that certificates of

need might be a

> good thing for Texas.

>

> Bob said that certificates of need have been politicized and have

been

> difficult to administer. So I said that perhaps the requirement

that any EMS

> service be engaged in 911 wouldn't be a bad idea.

>

> Now, there are many possible views of this and many positions to

take. You

> have now stated some interesting questions.

>

> What we need is a good, free-wheeling debate about how to limit

the

> ridiculous proliferation of EMS providers while still maintaining

fundamental freedoms

> in marketing.

>

> However, there are certain areas of business that need to be

regulated more

> stringently than the Mom and Pop Donut Shop. I submit that EMS

service is one

> of them.

>

> Yes, people do die from donuts, but not for a long time. People

can die

> from incompetent EMS, and it happens all the time.

>

> Worse, the job market for Paramedics is good now, and that makes

it even more

> important that every individual looking for a job realizes that

there are

> some employers, maybe many employers, who are out and out crooks.

And they need

> to watch out for them.

>

> I hate government regulation. It's against my nature. But there

are times

> when it's the only way to control functions that can do great harm

if not

> controlled.

>

> Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

situation. I find

> it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written by

anybody

> from that organization on this subject. I know some of them

monitor this list.

>

>

> Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

> be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is made

up of a bunch of

> fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

>

> Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

>

> Gene G.

>

>

>

> Danny L.

> Owner/NREMT-P

> Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response

> (PETSAR)

> Office

> Fax

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is Legacy EMS in any way owned, opperarted, or affiliated with Gaurdian EMS,

Inc., or Ricky ? just curious!

Chris

Firefighter/EMT

Cy-Fair Fire Department

8-Ambulance, D-Shift

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you totally we need to come together and then we can

move forward. That is a major problem with EMS today, very few

people agree on basic ideas and w/o that EMS will remain the way it

is...

> > Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

situation. I

> > find

> > it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written

by anybody

> > from that organization on this subject. I know some of them

monitor this

> > list.

> >

> > Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

> > be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is

made up of a

> > bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

> >

> > Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

> >

> > Gene G.

> >

> >

> > The comments contained in this correspondence are the sole

responsibility

> of

> > the author. They do not necessarily reflect the thoughts,

feelings, or

> > opinions of my employer, or any other group or organization

that I may be,

> am

> > perceived to be, have been or will be involved with in the

future. They

> are my

> > own comments, submitted freely and they are worth exactly what

you paid

> for

> > them.

> >

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[Guest guest]

To all,

I always sit here and read and listen to what goes on in the EMS

world. The message I get from all my readings is to " UNITE " . I received an

e-mail that I would like to share with everyone that can be found on this

web-site http://patriotfilesannex.org/Pledge.htm . If you have time please

take a moment to watch it and listen to the definitions. It just seemed

appropriate for the conversations. Everyone has a voice and it might be

heard but " UNITED " the voice will become a ROAR. I will step off my soapbox

now and go back to listening. Thank you for all you do for the people in our

Great State of Texas. May the Good Lord watch over all of you and keep you

safe.

Lt./LP

Vernon College

FIRE/EMS Training Program

4105 Maplewood

Wichita Falls, Texas 76308

Office ext. 3233

Fax

Re: " Job openings "

I agree with you totally we need to come together and then we can

move forward. That is a major problem with EMS today, very few

people agree on basic ideas and w/o that EMS will remain the way it

is...

> > Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

situation. I

> > find

> > it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written

by anybody

> > from that organization on this subject. I know some of them

monitor this

> > list.

> >

> > Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

> > be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is

made up of a

> > bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

> >

> > Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

> >

> > Gene G.

> >

> >

> > The comments contained in this correspondence are the sole

responsibility

> of

> > the author. They do not necessarily reflect the thoughts,

feelings, or

> > opinions of my employer, or any other group or organization

that I may be,

> am

> > perceived to be, have been or will be involved with in the

future. They

> are my

> > own comments, submitted freely and they are worth exactly what

you paid

> for

> > them.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yea I missed it as it relates to 1) the topic of the thread and 2) the

generic topic of EMS itself.

Wes, what flavors you got?

LNM

In a message dated 5/24/2006 11:53:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

ExLngHrn@... writes:

Umm, maybe I'm not understanding this, but is there a point to this? Or is

this just another trademarked kumbaya moment?

If so, I'll get the Kool-Aid.

-Wes

Re: " Job openings "

I agree with you totally we need to come together and then we can

move forward. That is a major problem with EMS today, very few

people agree on basic ideas and w/o that EMS will remain the way it

is...

> > Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

situation. I

> > find

> > it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written

by anybody

> > from that organization on this subject. I know some of them

monitor this

> > list.

> >

> > Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

> > be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is

made up of a

> > bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

> >

> > Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

> >

> > Gene G.

> >

> >

> > The comments contained in this correspondence are the sole

responsibility

> of

> > the author. They do not necessarily reflect the thoughts,

feelings, or

> > opinions of my employer, or any other group or organization

that I may be,

> am

> > perceived to be, have been or will be involved with in the

future. They

> are my

> > own comments, submitted freely and they are worth exactly what

you paid

> for

> > them.

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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with Yahoo!

> > Messenger with Voice.

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Umm, maybe I'm not understanding this, but is there a point to this? Or is this

just another trademarked kumbaya moment?

If so, I'll get the Kool-Aid.

-Wes

Re: " Job openings "

I agree with you totally we need to come together and then we can

move forward. That is a major problem with EMS today, very few

people agree on basic ideas and w/o that EMS will remain the way it

is...

> > Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

situation. I

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> > it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written

by anybody

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monitor this

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Legacy EMS is at no way owned, operated or affiliated with Guardian EMS, ricky

powell, or powell inc.

wrote: Is Legacy EMS in any way

owned, opperarted, or affiliated with Gaurdian EMS, Inc., or Ricky

? just curious!

Chris

Firefighter/EMT

Cy-Fair Fire Department

8-Ambulance, D-Shift

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I've got Guyana Grape Cyanide.

-Wes

Re: " Job openings "

I agree with you totally we need to come together and then we can

move forward. That is a major problem with EMS today, very few

people agree on basic ideas and w/o that EMS will remain the way it

is...

> > Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

situation. I

> > find

> > it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written

by anybody

> > from that organization on this subject. I know some of them

monitor this

> > list.

> >

> > Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

> > be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is

made up of a

> > bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

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> > Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

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> > Gene G.

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responsibility

> of

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feelings, or

> > opinions of my employer, or any other group or organization

that I may be,

> am

> > perceived to be, have been or will be involved with in the

future. They

> are my

> > own comments, submitted freely and they are worth exactly what

you paid

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ROFLMAO, you appear to be a cynic there Wes!!

I miss ya Wes...

Re: " Job openings "

I agree with you totally we need to come together and then we can

move forward. That is a major problem with EMS today, very few

people agree on basic ideas and w/o that EMS will remain the way it

is...

> > Yesterday I asked for anyone from TAA to comment on this

situation. I

> > find

> > it instructive that up to now there has not been a word written

by anybody

> > from that organization on this subject. I know some of them

monitor this

> > list.

> >

> > Why doesn't TAA step up to the plate on this issue? Could it

> > be...........Could it Beeeeee.......Could it be that TAA is

made up of a

> > bunch of fly-by-nights who don't want any sort of regulation?

> >

> > Nah. Or, well, maybe? Hmmmm. We'll see.

> >

> > Gene G.

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> > The comments contained in this correspondence are the sole

responsibility

> of

> > the author. They do not necessarily reflect the thoughts,

feelings, or

> > opinions of my employer, or any other group or organization

that I may be,

> am

> > perceived to be, have been or will be involved with in the

future. They

> are my

> > own comments, submitted freely and they are worth exactly what

you paid

> for

> > them.

> >

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