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Well a, depression for the most part is d/t a chemical imbalance in the

brain. That's the reason for the meds. They help lift your spirits so you feel

like joining the world, and helping you look at ways to resolve issues.

Debbie

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a, I'm sending along a piece that I saved about

hibernation syndrome, which is something we go through -

some resognize it, some don't. The good thing is that it

passes! Chin up, sweetie - you're on the right track! And

already you have a nice loss, yes?!?!?

Sharon in D.C.

HIBERNATION SYNDROME

After WLS, you may be feeling tired and become depressed.

When you are several weeks post op, and are either on a

liquid diet or you are eating many fewer calories than you

were pre op, this depression and inactivity can become more

pronounced. All you want to do is sleep, you may have crying

spells, you may begin to believe that the surgery was a

mistake, or you may think 'what in the world have I done to

myself?' All these feelings are completely normal. The low

number of calories you are eating produces what many of us

call the 'hibernation syndrome' and your depression and

feelings of despair are a direct result.

During the weeks immediately following surgery, our body

starts to notice that we are not taking in enough calories.

It doesn't know we've had WLS. Our body is missing food,

thinks this is a famine and struggles to conserve our

energy. The human body reacts like it always has in a

famine; it makes us depressed -- so we don't have the

motivation to do anything, and it makes us tired -- so we

don't have the energy to do anything. In this way, we will

conserve as many calories as possible and remain alive. You

can see the practical value of this as our bodies have been

living through famines, snowstorms, and other periods of

unstable food supply for centuries.

This stage can last several weeks. Our discomfort is

compounded as we are, at this same time, trying to recover

from major surgery, adopt new eating habits and deal with a

liquid or soft diet. To get out of this stage, our body has

to say to itself 'gee, this famine is lasting a bit too

long. If I keep conserving my energy with inactivity, I will

starve to death. I'd better use my last store of energy (the

remaining fat and muscles in our body) to hunt up some

food'. At this point, our body will switch from getting

energy from food, to getting energy from our fat (and muscle

too if we don't eat enough protein) and that is what we

want.

In order to deal with this difficult transition period, tell

yourself that you're right on track; this is exactly what is

normal and to be expected. Tell yourself that, in a few

weeks, this will pass, and you will feel like a completely

new person. We all seem to turn the corner about 4-6 weeks

post op. Then, your mood will lighten and, with your weight

loss starting to add up, you'll feel more positive and have

a better outlook on life. Just keep telling yourself that

you will not always feel this way! You WILL be back to

feeling like your old self. Just give it time!

New to the group

Hello All -

I am just getting started exploring different WLS groups. I

have

read a lot of the postings and am grateful for the positive

attitudes. I have heard about the depression that may

follow this

surgery and feel that I may be in it. Can anyone let me

know how

long this may last or any " tricks " that may help. I am

really

against being medicated for depression. Maybe it will help

just to

have someone to talk to that can relate to the feelings that

follow

this surgery. HELP!!

a

Open RNY

01/23/03

266/223/140

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Guest guest
Posted

Thank you -

Its so nice to hear a friendly voice - brought tears to my eyes. I

have never heard of " hibernation syndrome " thanks for the insight.

> a, I'm sending along a piece that I saved about

> hibernation syndrome, which is something we go through -

> some resognize it, some don't. The good thing is that it

> passes! Chin up, sweetie - you're on the right track! And

> already you have a nice loss, yes?!?!?

> Sharon in D.C.

>

> HIBERNATION SYNDROME

>

> After WLS, you may be feeling tired and become depressed.

> When you are several weeks post op, and are either on a

> liquid diet or you are eating many fewer calories than you

> were pre op, this depression and inactivity can become more

> pronounced. All you want to do is sleep, you may have crying

> spells, you may begin to believe that the surgery was a

> mistake, or you may think 'what in the world have I done to

> myself?' All these feelings are completely normal. The low

> number of calories you are eating produces what many of us

> call the 'hibernation syndrome' and your depression and

> feelings of despair are a direct result.

>

> During the weeks immediately following surgery, our body

> starts to notice that we are not taking in enough calories.

> It doesn't know we've had WLS. Our body is missing food,

> thinks this is a famine and struggles to conserve our

> energy. The human body reacts like it always has in a

> famine; it makes us depressed -- so we don't have the

> motivation to do anything, and it makes us tired -- so we

> don't have the energy to do anything. In this way, we will

> conserve as many calories as possible and remain alive. You

> can see the practical value of this as our bodies have been

> living through famines, snowstorms, and other periods of

> unstable food supply for centuries.

>

> This stage can last several weeks. Our discomfort is

> compounded as we are, at this same time, trying to recover

> from major surgery, adopt new eating habits and deal with a

> liquid or soft diet. To get out of this stage, our body has

> to say to itself 'gee, this famine is lasting a bit too

> long. If I keep conserving my energy with inactivity, I will

> starve to death. I'd better use my last store of energy (the

> remaining fat and muscles in our body) to hunt up some

> food'. At this point, our body will switch from getting

> energy from food, to getting energy from our fat (and muscle

> too if we don't eat enough protein) and that is what we

> want.

>

> In order to deal with this difficult transition period, tell

> yourself that you're right on track; this is exactly what is

> normal and to be expected. Tell yourself that, in a few

> weeks, this will pass, and you will feel like a completely

> new person. We all seem to turn the corner about 4-6 weeks

> post op. Then, your mood will lighten and, with your weight

> loss starting to add up, you'll feel more positive and have

> a better outlook on life. Just keep telling yourself that

> you will not always feel this way! You WILL be back to

> feeling like your old self. Just give it time!

>

> New to the group

>

> Hello All -

>

> I am just getting started exploring different WLS groups. I

> have

> read a lot of the postings and am grateful for the positive

> attitudes. I have heard about the depression that may

> follow this

> surgery and feel that I may be in it. Can anyone let me

> know how

> long this may last or any " tricks " that may help. I am

> really

> against being medicated for depression. Maybe it will help

> just to

> have someone to talk to that can relate to the feelings that

> follow

> this surgery. HELP!!

>

> a

> Open RNY

> 01/23/03

> 266/223/140

>

>

>

> To Subscribe to 's monthly FREE Newsletter send an

> email to GBCookbook-subscribe@t...

>

Guest guest
Posted

Thank you -

Its so nice to hear a friendly voice - brought tears to my eyes. I

have never heard of " hibernation syndrome " thanks for the insight.

> a, I'm sending along a piece that I saved about

> hibernation syndrome, which is something we go through -

> some resognize it, some don't. The good thing is that it

> passes! Chin up, sweetie - you're on the right track! And

> already you have a nice loss, yes?!?!?

> Sharon in D.C.

>

> HIBERNATION SYNDROME

>

> After WLS, you may be feeling tired and become depressed.

> When you are several weeks post op, and are either on a

> liquid diet or you are eating many fewer calories than you

> were pre op, this depression and inactivity can become more

> pronounced. All you want to do is sleep, you may have crying

> spells, you may begin to believe that the surgery was a

> mistake, or you may think 'what in the world have I done to

> myself?' All these feelings are completely normal. The low

> number of calories you are eating produces what many of us

> call the 'hibernation syndrome' and your depression and

> feelings of despair are a direct result.

>

> During the weeks immediately following surgery, our body

> starts to notice that we are not taking in enough calories.

> It doesn't know we've had WLS. Our body is missing food,

> thinks this is a famine and struggles to conserve our

> energy. The human body reacts like it always has in a

> famine; it makes us depressed -- so we don't have the

> motivation to do anything, and it makes us tired -- so we

> don't have the energy to do anything. In this way, we will

> conserve as many calories as possible and remain alive. You

> can see the practical value of this as our bodies have been

> living through famines, snowstorms, and other periods of

> unstable food supply for centuries.

>

> This stage can last several weeks. Our discomfort is

> compounded as we are, at this same time, trying to recover

> from major surgery, adopt new eating habits and deal with a

> liquid or soft diet. To get out of this stage, our body has

> to say to itself 'gee, this famine is lasting a bit too

> long. If I keep conserving my energy with inactivity, I will

> starve to death. I'd better use my last store of energy (the

> remaining fat and muscles in our body) to hunt up some

> food'. At this point, our body will switch from getting

> energy from food, to getting energy from our fat (and muscle

> too if we don't eat enough protein) and that is what we

> want.

>

> In order to deal with this difficult transition period, tell

> yourself that you're right on track; this is exactly what is

> normal and to be expected. Tell yourself that, in a few

> weeks, this will pass, and you will feel like a completely

> new person. We all seem to turn the corner about 4-6 weeks

> post op. Then, your mood will lighten and, with your weight

> loss starting to add up, you'll feel more positive and have

> a better outlook on life. Just keep telling yourself that

> you will not always feel this way! You WILL be back to

> feeling like your old self. Just give it time!

>

> New to the group

>

> Hello All -

>

> I am just getting started exploring different WLS groups. I

> have

> read a lot of the postings and am grateful for the positive

> attitudes. I have heard about the depression that may

> follow this

> surgery and feel that I may be in it. Can anyone let me

> know how

> long this may last or any " tricks " that may help. I am

> really

> against being medicated for depression. Maybe it will help

> just to

> have someone to talk to that can relate to the feelings that

> follow

> this surgery. HELP!!

>

> a

> Open RNY

> 01/23/03

> 266/223/140

>

>

>

> To Subscribe to 's monthly FREE Newsletter send an

> email to GBCookbook-subscribe@t...

>

Guest guest
Posted

a - You don't need medication for the normal depression that comes with

hibernation syndrome. It lasts for several weeks but then it will go away. You

are depressed because your body is trying to conserve all its energy, so you are

very tired and feel like crap. You are probably wondering why you put yourself

through this. The best ways to combat the hibernation syndrome is to exercise,

drink plenty of water, and drink 2-3 protein shakes a day. This will help to

convince your body it's not gonna starve to death. You are in the best place

for lots of love and support. We've all been there, or will be. Take care.

Jeanne in WI

Age 39 - Dr. T. Chua

Open RNY - 5/21/02

5'7 " - 314/218/150-175

djgraves@...

Guest guest
Posted

HI a and welcome to the group

New to the group

> Hello All -

>

> I am just getting started exploring different WLS groups. I have

> read a lot of the postings and am grateful for the positive

> attitudes. I have heard about the depression that may follow this

> surgery and feel that I may be in it. Can anyone let me know how

> long this may last or any " tricks " that may help. I am really

> against being medicated for depression. Maybe it will help just to

> have someone to talk to that can relate to the feelings that follow

> this surgery. HELP!!

>

> a

> Open RNY

> 01/23/03

> 266/223/140

>

>

>

> To Subscribe to 's monthly FREE Newsletter send an email to

GBCookbook-subscribe@...

>

Guest guest
Posted

Dear a,

You might be experiencing Hibernation syndrome or maybe the winter

blahs. If your depression makes you feel hopeless or constantly in despair,

perhaps seeing a counselor or someone from your church might help...?

I understand your apprehension regarding medication, etc., but there

are a lot of medicines out there that have really helped people suffering

with depression.

Take good care and you're in my prayers.

Love,

Trace

  • 2 years later...
Posted

First of all I will thank you all in advance, one, for just being here and two,

for the help and support you will so generously provide.

My name is , I'm 48 years old and have had diagnosed afib for a little

over 10 years. It was very bad at first them found medications that helped. I

seem to have outgrown them and now I'm on amiodarone but I'm in afib all the

time.

It has been suggested that I receive cardioversion and know that is next on the

list of things to do but I know I'm just putting off the inevitable ablation.

My question for you folks is, I love in NJ and I am currently seeing Dr. Mehta

at MT Sinai in NY. Has anyone had experience with him? OR has anyone had

positive result with anyone else in NYC? I would also be willing to go to

Philadelphia if there was a great Doctor there.

Please, let me know what you think.

Thank you again,

Posted

,

If you are looking in Philadelphia, there are excellent doctors at

the University of Pennsylvania. I have a friend who went to Dr.

Callans there for an ablation after a disastrous ablation experience

at another hospital in Philadelphia. Dr. Callans performed a

successful ablation on him. Unfortunately, he still suffers from

problems caused by the original ablation. But my friend has nothing

but rave reviews about Dr. Callans, who he now sees as his regular

cardiologist.

I had a consult some years ago with Marchlinski, who is the

Director of the EP program at Penn. He is also excellent, but

difficult to get in to see.

Sorry, I can't help with EPs in the NYC area.

Good luck. Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

medications that helped. I seem to have outgrown them and now I'm on

amiodarone but I'm in afib all the time.

> My question for you folks is, I love in NJ and I am currently

seeing Dr. Mehta at MT Sinai in NY. Has anyone had experience with

him? OR has anyone had positive result with anyone else in NYC? I

would also be willing to go to Philadelphia if there was a great

Doctor there.

Posted

, thank you for your help.

Re: New to the Group

,

If you are looking in Philadelphia, there are excellent doctors at

the University of Pennsylvania. I have a friend who went to Dr.

Callans there for an ablation after a disastrous ablation experience

at another hospital in Philadelphia. Dr. Callans performed a

successful ablation on him. Unfortunately, he still suffers from

problems caused by the original ablation. But my friend has nothing

but rave reviews about Dr. Callans, who he now sees as his regular

cardiologist.

I had a consult some years ago with Marchlinski, who is the

Director of the EP program at Penn. He is also excellent, but

difficult to get in to see.

Sorry, I can't help with EPs in the NYC area.

Good luck. Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

medications that helped. I seem to have outgrown them and now I'm on

amiodarone but I'm in afib all the time.

> My question for you folks is, I love in NJ and I am currently

seeing Dr. Mehta at MT Sinai in NY. Has anyone had experience with

him? OR has anyone had positive result with anyone else in NYC? I

would also be willing to go to Philadelphia if there was a great

Doctor there.

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List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be

acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

Posted

Welcome to the Group . I live on the West coast and do not know

of a great EP in your area. I have an EP here who I consider great.

When I realized that ablasion surgery was my next step, I went

straight for the best doctor and hospital.

There are a lot of great EP's out there, but if you are considering

ablasion then I recommend going to one of the top doctors for that

proceedure. The success rates for ablasions are tied directly to the

specific doctors ability. For ablasion, it is important to get a

doctor who has " good hands " .

Many people recommend Dr. Natale at the Cleveland Clinic. I recently

had a consultation with a doctor there and scheduled an ablasion with

Dr. Natale. It was about a 1 month wait to get an appointment with an

EP at Cleveland Clinic (Dr. Bhargava). Dr. Bhargava recommended

ablasion. I have to wait about 11 months to have an ablasion done with

Dr. Natale. For me, it is worth the wait.

Take care,

Lori :-)

Posted

Mike,

Between Boston, NYC, Philly and Baltimore, there are many excellent EP's

and many world class hospitals. Where are you?

Rich O

Posted

Lori, thank you for your message.

Please, if anyone else in the group knows of an EP in the north east, I would

appreciate your help.

You can e-mail me at mjcastrilli@....

Thank you,

Re: New to the Group

Welcome to the Group . I live on the West coast and do not know

of a great EP in your area. I have an EP here who I consider great.

When I realized that ablasion surgery was my next step, I went

straight for the best doctor and hospital.

There are a lot of great EP's out there, but if you are considering

ablasion then I recommend going to one of the top doctors for that

proceedure. The success rates for ablasions are tied directly to the

specific doctors ability. For ablasion, it is important to get a

doctor who has " good hands " .

Many people recommend Dr. Natale at the Cleveland Clinic. I recently

had a consultation with a doctor there and scheduled an ablasion with

Dr. Natale. It was about a 1 month wait to get an appointment with an

EP at Cleveland Clinic (Dr. Bhargava). Dr. Bhargava recommended

ablasion. I have to wait about 11 months to have an ablasion done with

Dr. Natale. For me, it is worth the wait.

Take care,

Lori :-)

Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be

acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

Posted

Hi Rich,

I live in central New Jersey. I'm currently seeing Dr. Mehta at MT Sinai and I'm

trying to get in to see Dr. Lehrman at Columbia P.

Where are you from? What have your experiences been?

Mehta wants to do a cardioversion. My meds arent working anymore..

Thank you for your help.

Mike

Re: Re: New to the Group

Mike,

Between Boston, NYC, Philly and Baltimore, there are many excellent EP's

and many world class hospitals. Where are you?

Rich O

Posted

>

> Lori, thank you for your message.

>

> Please, if anyone else in the group knows of an EP in the north

east, I would appreciate your help.

>

> You can e-mail me at mjcastrilli@...

>

> Thank you,

>

> :

Welcome to the group and thanks for signing your name.

Pam Walter recommended an EP? in polis, land. Dr Meister:

....900 Bestgate Road Suite 300.

Before you see him make sure he is an EP. Where do you live?

Isabelle

>

>

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