Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 Well a, depression for the most part is d/t a chemical imbalance in the brain. That's the reason for the meds. They help lift your spirits so you feel like joining the world, and helping you look at ways to resolve issues. Debbie Quote
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 a, I'm sending along a piece that I saved about hibernation syndrome, which is something we go through - some resognize it, some don't. The good thing is that it passes! Chin up, sweetie - you're on the right track! And already you have a nice loss, yes?!?!? Sharon in D.C. HIBERNATION SYNDROME After WLS, you may be feeling tired and become depressed. When you are several weeks post op, and are either on a liquid diet or you are eating many fewer calories than you were pre op, this depression and inactivity can become more pronounced. All you want to do is sleep, you may have crying spells, you may begin to believe that the surgery was a mistake, or you may think 'what in the world have I done to myself?' All these feelings are completely normal. The low number of calories you are eating produces what many of us call the 'hibernation syndrome' and your depression and feelings of despair are a direct result. During the weeks immediately following surgery, our body starts to notice that we are not taking in enough calories. It doesn't know we've had WLS. Our body is missing food, thinks this is a famine and struggles to conserve our energy. The human body reacts like it always has in a famine; it makes us depressed -- so we don't have the motivation to do anything, and it makes us tired -- so we don't have the energy to do anything. In this way, we will conserve as many calories as possible and remain alive. You can see the practical value of this as our bodies have been living through famines, snowstorms, and other periods of unstable food supply for centuries. This stage can last several weeks. Our discomfort is compounded as we are, at this same time, trying to recover from major surgery, adopt new eating habits and deal with a liquid or soft diet. To get out of this stage, our body has to say to itself 'gee, this famine is lasting a bit too long. If I keep conserving my energy with inactivity, I will starve to death. I'd better use my last store of energy (the remaining fat and muscles in our body) to hunt up some food'. At this point, our body will switch from getting energy from food, to getting energy from our fat (and muscle too if we don't eat enough protein) and that is what we want. In order to deal with this difficult transition period, tell yourself that you're right on track; this is exactly what is normal and to be expected. Tell yourself that, in a few weeks, this will pass, and you will feel like a completely new person. We all seem to turn the corner about 4-6 weeks post op. Then, your mood will lighten and, with your weight loss starting to add up, you'll feel more positive and have a better outlook on life. Just keep telling yourself that you will not always feel this way! You WILL be back to feeling like your old self. Just give it time! New to the group Hello All - I am just getting started exploring different WLS groups. I have read a lot of the postings and am grateful for the positive attitudes. I have heard about the depression that may follow this surgery and feel that I may be in it. Can anyone let me know how long this may last or any " tricks " that may help. I am really against being medicated for depression. Maybe it will help just to have someone to talk to that can relate to the feelings that follow this surgery. HELP!! a Open RNY 01/23/03 266/223/140 To Subscribe to 's monthly FREE Newsletter send an email to GBCookbook-subscribe@... Quote
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 Thank you - Its so nice to hear a friendly voice - brought tears to my eyes. I have never heard of " hibernation syndrome " thanks for the insight. > a, I'm sending along a piece that I saved about > hibernation syndrome, which is something we go through - > some resognize it, some don't. The good thing is that it > passes! Chin up, sweetie - you're on the right track! And > already you have a nice loss, yes?!?!? > Sharon in D.C. > > HIBERNATION SYNDROME > > After WLS, you may be feeling tired and become depressed. > When you are several weeks post op, and are either on a > liquid diet or you are eating many fewer calories than you > were pre op, this depression and inactivity can become more > pronounced. All you want to do is sleep, you may have crying > spells, you may begin to believe that the surgery was a > mistake, or you may think 'what in the world have I done to > myself?' All these feelings are completely normal. The low > number of calories you are eating produces what many of us > call the 'hibernation syndrome' and your depression and > feelings of despair are a direct result. > > During the weeks immediately following surgery, our body > starts to notice that we are not taking in enough calories. > It doesn't know we've had WLS. Our body is missing food, > thinks this is a famine and struggles to conserve our > energy. The human body reacts like it always has in a > famine; it makes us depressed -- so we don't have the > motivation to do anything, and it makes us tired -- so we > don't have the energy to do anything. In this way, we will > conserve as many calories as possible and remain alive. You > can see the practical value of this as our bodies have been > living through famines, snowstorms, and other periods of > unstable food supply for centuries. > > This stage can last several weeks. Our discomfort is > compounded as we are, at this same time, trying to recover > from major surgery, adopt new eating habits and deal with a > liquid or soft diet. To get out of this stage, our body has > to say to itself 'gee, this famine is lasting a bit too > long. If I keep conserving my energy with inactivity, I will > starve to death. I'd better use my last store of energy (the > remaining fat and muscles in our body) to hunt up some > food'. At this point, our body will switch from getting > energy from food, to getting energy from our fat (and muscle > too if we don't eat enough protein) and that is what we > want. > > In order to deal with this difficult transition period, tell > yourself that you're right on track; this is exactly what is > normal and to be expected. Tell yourself that, in a few > weeks, this will pass, and you will feel like a completely > new person. We all seem to turn the corner about 4-6 weeks > post op. Then, your mood will lighten and, with your weight > loss starting to add up, you'll feel more positive and have > a better outlook on life. Just keep telling yourself that > you will not always feel this way! You WILL be back to > feeling like your old self. Just give it time! > > New to the group > > Hello All - > > I am just getting started exploring different WLS groups. I > have > read a lot of the postings and am grateful for the positive > attitudes. I have heard about the depression that may > follow this > surgery and feel that I may be in it. Can anyone let me > know how > long this may last or any " tricks " that may help. I am > really > against being medicated for depression. Maybe it will help > just to > have someone to talk to that can relate to the feelings that > follow > this surgery. HELP!! > > a > Open RNY > 01/23/03 > 266/223/140 > > > > To Subscribe to 's monthly FREE Newsletter send an > email to GBCookbook-subscribe@t... > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 Thank you - Its so nice to hear a friendly voice - brought tears to my eyes. I have never heard of " hibernation syndrome " thanks for the insight. > a, I'm sending along a piece that I saved about > hibernation syndrome, which is something we go through - > some resognize it, some don't. The good thing is that it > passes! Chin up, sweetie - you're on the right track! And > already you have a nice loss, yes?!?!? > Sharon in D.C. > > HIBERNATION SYNDROME > > After WLS, you may be feeling tired and become depressed. > When you are several weeks post op, and are either on a > liquid diet or you are eating many fewer calories than you > were pre op, this depression and inactivity can become more > pronounced. All you want to do is sleep, you may have crying > spells, you may begin to believe that the surgery was a > mistake, or you may think 'what in the world have I done to > myself?' All these feelings are completely normal. The low > number of calories you are eating produces what many of us > call the 'hibernation syndrome' and your depression and > feelings of despair are a direct result. > > During the weeks immediately following surgery, our body > starts to notice that we are not taking in enough calories. > It doesn't know we've had WLS. Our body is missing food, > thinks this is a famine and struggles to conserve our > energy. The human body reacts like it always has in a > famine; it makes us depressed -- so we don't have the > motivation to do anything, and it makes us tired -- so we > don't have the energy to do anything. In this way, we will > conserve as many calories as possible and remain alive. You > can see the practical value of this as our bodies have been > living through famines, snowstorms, and other periods of > unstable food supply for centuries. > > This stage can last several weeks. Our discomfort is > compounded as we are, at this same time, trying to recover > from major surgery, adopt new eating habits and deal with a > liquid or soft diet. To get out of this stage, our body has > to say to itself 'gee, this famine is lasting a bit too > long. If I keep conserving my energy with inactivity, I will > starve to death. I'd better use my last store of energy (the > remaining fat and muscles in our body) to hunt up some > food'. At this point, our body will switch from getting > energy from food, to getting energy from our fat (and muscle > too if we don't eat enough protein) and that is what we > want. > > In order to deal with this difficult transition period, tell > yourself that you're right on track; this is exactly what is > normal and to be expected. Tell yourself that, in a few > weeks, this will pass, and you will feel like a completely > new person. We all seem to turn the corner about 4-6 weeks > post op. Then, your mood will lighten and, with your weight > loss starting to add up, you'll feel more positive and have > a better outlook on life. Just keep telling yourself that > you will not always feel this way! You WILL be back to > feeling like your old self. Just give it time! > > New to the group > > Hello All - > > I am just getting started exploring different WLS groups. I > have > read a lot of the postings and am grateful for the positive > attitudes. I have heard about the depression that may > follow this > surgery and feel that I may be in it. Can anyone let me > know how > long this may last or any " tricks " that may help. I am > really > against being medicated for depression. Maybe it will help > just to > have someone to talk to that can relate to the feelings that > follow > this surgery. HELP!! > > a > Open RNY > 01/23/03 > 266/223/140 > > > > To Subscribe to 's monthly FREE Newsletter send an > email to GBCookbook-subscribe@t... > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 a - You don't need medication for the normal depression that comes with hibernation syndrome. It lasts for several weeks but then it will go away. You are depressed because your body is trying to conserve all its energy, so you are very tired and feel like crap. You are probably wondering why you put yourself through this. The best ways to combat the hibernation syndrome is to exercise, drink plenty of water, and drink 2-3 protein shakes a day. This will help to convince your body it's not gonna starve to death. You are in the best place for lots of love and support. We've all been there, or will be. Take care. Jeanne in WI Age 39 - Dr. T. Chua Open RNY - 5/21/02 5'7 " - 314/218/150-175 djgraves@... Quote
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 HI a and welcome to the group New to the group > Hello All - > > I am just getting started exploring different WLS groups. I have > read a lot of the postings and am grateful for the positive > attitudes. I have heard about the depression that may follow this > surgery and feel that I may be in it. Can anyone let me know how > long this may last or any " tricks " that may help. I am really > against being medicated for depression. Maybe it will help just to > have someone to talk to that can relate to the feelings that follow > this surgery. HELP!! > > a > Open RNY > 01/23/03 > 266/223/140 > > > > To Subscribe to 's monthly FREE Newsletter send an email to GBCookbook-subscribe@... > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Posted March 13, 2003 Dear a, You might be experiencing Hibernation syndrome or maybe the winter blahs. If your depression makes you feel hopeless or constantly in despair, perhaps seeing a counselor or someone from your church might help...? I understand your apprehension regarding medication, etc., but there are a lot of medicines out there that have really helped people suffering with depression. Take good care and you're in my prayers. Love, Trace Quote
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Posted January 31, 2006 I was cured by Dr. Grant Simons at Englewood Hospital in 2002 Quote
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Posted January 31, 2006 First of all I will thank you all in advance, one, for just being here and two, for the help and support you will so generously provide. My name is , I'm 48 years old and have had diagnosed afib for a little over 10 years. It was very bad at first them found medications that helped. I seem to have outgrown them and now I'm on amiodarone but I'm in afib all the time. It has been suggested that I receive cardioversion and know that is next on the list of things to do but I know I'm just putting off the inevitable ablation. My question for you folks is, I love in NJ and I am currently seeing Dr. Mehta at MT Sinai in NY. Has anyone had experience with him? OR has anyone had positive result with anyone else in NYC? I would also be willing to go to Philadelphia if there was a great Doctor there. Please, let me know what you think. Thank you again, Quote
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Posted January 31, 2006 , If you are looking in Philadelphia, there are excellent doctors at the University of Pennsylvania. I have a friend who went to Dr. Callans there for an ablation after a disastrous ablation experience at another hospital in Philadelphia. Dr. Callans performed a successful ablation on him. Unfortunately, he still suffers from problems caused by the original ablation. But my friend has nothing but rave reviews about Dr. Callans, who he now sees as his regular cardiologist. I had a consult some years ago with Marchlinski, who is the Director of the EP program at Penn. He is also excellent, but difficult to get in to see. Sorry, I can't help with EPs in the NYC area. Good luck. Feel free to email me if you have any questions. medications that helped. I seem to have outgrown them and now I'm on amiodarone but I'm in afib all the time. > My question for you folks is, I love in NJ and I am currently seeing Dr. Mehta at MT Sinai in NY. Has anyone had experience with him? OR has anyone had positive result with anyone else in NYC? I would also be willing to go to Philadelphia if there was a great Doctor there. Quote
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Posted January 31, 2006 , thank you for your help. Re: New to the Group , If you are looking in Philadelphia, there are excellent doctors at the University of Pennsylvania. I have a friend who went to Dr. Callans there for an ablation after a disastrous ablation experience at another hospital in Philadelphia. Dr. Callans performed a successful ablation on him. Unfortunately, he still suffers from problems caused by the original ablation. But my friend has nothing but rave reviews about Dr. Callans, who he now sees as his regular cardiologist. I had a consult some years ago with Marchlinski, who is the Director of the EP program at Penn. He is also excellent, but difficult to get in to see. Sorry, I can't help with EPs in the NYC area. Good luck. Feel free to email me if you have any questions. medications that helped. I seem to have outgrown them and now I'm on amiodarone but I'm in afib all the time. > My question for you folks is, I love in NJ and I am currently seeing Dr. Mehta at MT Sinai in NY. Has anyone had experience with him? OR has anyone had positive result with anyone else in NYC? I would also be willing to go to Philadelphia if there was a great Doctor there. Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com List owner: AFIBsupport-owner For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email, send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 Welcome to the Group . I live on the West coast and do not know of a great EP in your area. I have an EP here who I consider great. When I realized that ablasion surgery was my next step, I went straight for the best doctor and hospital. There are a lot of great EP's out there, but if you are considering ablasion then I recommend going to one of the top doctors for that proceedure. The success rates for ablasions are tied directly to the specific doctors ability. For ablasion, it is important to get a doctor who has " good hands " . Many people recommend Dr. Natale at the Cleveland Clinic. I recently had a consultation with a doctor there and scheduled an ablasion with Dr. Natale. It was about a 1 month wait to get an appointment with an EP at Cleveland Clinic (Dr. Bhargava). Dr. Bhargava recommended ablasion. I have to wait about 11 months to have an ablasion done with Dr. Natale. For me, it is worth the wait. Take care, Lori :-) Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 Mike, Between Boston, NYC, Philly and Baltimore, there are many excellent EP's and many world class hospitals. Where are you? Rich O Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 Lori, thank you for your message. Please, if anyone else in the group knows of an EP in the north east, I would appreciate your help. You can e-mail me at mjcastrilli@.... Thank you, Re: New to the Group Welcome to the Group . I live on the West coast and do not know of a great EP in your area. I have an EP here who I consider great. When I realized that ablasion surgery was my next step, I went straight for the best doctor and hospital. There are a lot of great EP's out there, but if you are considering ablasion then I recommend going to one of the top doctors for that proceedure. The success rates for ablasions are tied directly to the specific doctors ability. For ablasion, it is important to get a doctor who has " good hands " . Many people recommend Dr. Natale at the Cleveland Clinic. I recently had a consultation with a doctor there and scheduled an ablasion with Dr. Natale. It was about a 1 month wait to get an appointment with an EP at Cleveland Clinic (Dr. Bhargava). Dr. Bhargava recommended ablasion. I have to wait about 11 months to have an ablasion done with Dr. Natale. For me, it is worth the wait. Take care, Lori :-) Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com List owner: AFIBsupport-owner For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email, send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 Hi Rich, I live in central New Jersey. I'm currently seeing Dr. Mehta at MT Sinai and I'm trying to get in to see Dr. Lehrman at Columbia P. Where are you from? What have your experiences been? Mehta wants to do a cardioversion. My meds arent working anymore.. Thank you for your help. Mike Re: Re: New to the Group Mike, Between Boston, NYC, Philly and Baltimore, there are many excellent EP's and many world class hospitals. Where are you? Rich O Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 > > Lori, thank you for your message. > > Please, if anyone else in the group knows of an EP in the north east, I would appreciate your help. > > You can e-mail me at mjcastrilli@... > > Thank you, > > : Welcome to the group and thanks for signing your name. Pam Walter recommended an EP? in polis, land. Dr Meister: ....900 Bestgate Road Suite 300. Before you see him make sure he is an EP. Where do you live? Isabelle > > Quote
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