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I know...I know!! Well maybe. Exodus 12:37 gives us the number of soldiers.

Then add wives, kids, servants, older people, etc and the notes in my Bible says

that the estimated grand total of the exodus was: 6,100,800! WOW!

FW: Moses - This is Amazing

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> You MUST read to the end: (smile)

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> Moses and the people were in

the desert, but what was he going to do

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> They had to be fed, and feeding 2 or

3 million people requires a lot of food.

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> According to the Quartermaster General

> in the Army, it is reported that

> Moses would have to have had 1500

tons of food each day. Do you know that to bring that much food each

day, two freight trains, each at least amile long, would be required!

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> Besides you must remember, they

were out in the desert, so they wouldhave to have firewood to use in

cooking the food. This would take 4000tons of wood and a few more

freight trains, each a mile long, just for oneday.

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years in transit.

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> And Oh yes! They would have to

have water. If they only had enough to drink and wash a few dishes,

it would take 11,000,000 gallons each dayand a freight train with

tank cars, 1800 miles long, just to bring water!

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> And then another thing!

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> They had to get across the Red Sea

at night. Now, if they went on a narrow path, double file, the line

would be 800 miles long and would require35 days and nights to get

through. So there had to be a space in the RedSea, 3 miles wide so

that they could walk 5000 abreast to get over in onenight.

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> But then, there is another

problem...............each time they camped at the end of the day, a

campground two-thirds the size of the state of Rhode Island was

required, or a total of 750 square miles long........ think of it!

This much space for camping.

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> Do you think Moses figured all this

out before he left Egypt? I think not!

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> You see, Moses believed in God. God

took care of these things for him.

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> Now do you think God has any

problem taking care of all your needs?

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> I asked the Lord to bless you As I

prayed for you today. To guide you andprotect you as you go along

your way.... His love is always with you,

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> His promises are true, And when we

give Him all our cares, You know Hewill see us through.

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> Our God is an Awesome God!!

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> So when the road you're traveling

on seems difficult at best, just remember I'm praying and God will do

the rest.

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> Pass this to at least 10 people you

want God to bless, and don't forget to send it back to the one who

asked God to bless you first.

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I am taking a class with our rabbi on Wednesday, so I'll ask him!!

Edith

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> >

> > GOD IS NOT ONLY GOOD.....

> > HE IS AWESOME !

> >

> >

> > This has great sound!

> >

> > AWESOME

> > This is almost overwhelming

when

> you think about it.

> >

> > You MUST read to the end:

(smile)

> >

> > Moses and the people were

in

> the desert, but what was he going to do

> > with them?

> >

> > They had to be fed, and feeding

2 or

> 3 million people requires a lot of food.

> >

> > According to the Quartermaster

General

> > in the Army, it is reported that

> > Moses would have to have had

1500

> tons of food each day. Do you know that to bring that much food

each

> day, two freight trains, each at least amile long, would be

required!

> >

> > Besides you must remember,

they

> were out in the desert, so they wouldhave to have firewood to

use in

> cooking the food. This would take 4000tons of wood and a few

more

> freight trains, each a mile long, just for oneday.

> >

> > And just think, they were

forty

> years in transit.

> >

> > And Oh yes! They would have

to

> have water. If they only had enough to drink and wash a few

dishes,

> it would take 11,000,000 gallons each dayand a freight train

with

> tank cars, 1800 miles long, just to bring water!

> >

> > And then another thing!

> >

> > They had to get across the Red

Sea

> at night. Now, if they went on a narrow path, double file, the

line

> would be 800 miles long and would require35 days and nights to

get

> through. So there had to be a space in the RedSea, 3 miles wide

so

> that they could walk 5000 abreast to get over in onenight.

> >

> > But then, there is another

> problem...............each time they camped at the end of the

day, a

> campground two-thirds the size of the state of Rhode Island was

> required, or a total of 750 square miles long........ think of

it!

> This much space for camping.

> >

> > Do you think Moses figured all

this

> out before he left Egypt? I think not!

> >

> > You see, Moses believed in

God. God

> took care of these things for him.

> >

> > Now do you think God has any

> problem taking care of all your needs?

> >

> > I asked the Lord to bless you

As I

> prayed for you today. To guide you andprotect you as you go

along

> your way.... His love is always with you,

> >

> > His promises are true, And

when we

> give Him all our cares, You know Hewill see us through.

> >

> > Our God is an Awesome God!!

> >

> > So when the road you're

traveling

> on seems difficult at best, just remember I'm praying and God

will do

> the rest.

> >

> > Pass this to at least 10

people you

> want God to bless, and don't forget to send it back to the one

who

> asked God to bless you first.

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You may not be far from the actual number. My rabbi says there were

600,000 Hebrew " soldiers " who left with their entire families. Since

most families at that time consisted of multiple wives and many

children, 6 million may not be far off. If you take the current

average of 2 parents and 2 children, you have 2.4 million. Then add

the sisters, brothers, cousins and other family members.

The rabbi intimated there was more to this, but he was rushing off.

I'll bring it up again next week.

Edith

> > >

> > > FW: Moses - This is Amazing

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > GOD IS NOT ONLY GOOD.....

> > > HE IS AWESOME !

> > >

> > >

> > > This has great sound!

> > >

> > > AWESOME

> > > This is almost

overwhelming

> when

> > you think about it.

> > >

> > > You MUST read to the end:

> (smile)

> > >

> > > Moses and the people

were

> in

> > the desert, but what was he going to do

> > > with them?

> > >

> > > They had to be fed, and

feeding

> 2 or

> > 3 million people requires a lot of food.

> > >

> > > According to the

Quartermaster

> General

> > > in the Army, it is reported

that

> > > Moses would have to have

had

> 1500

> > tons of food each day. Do you know that to bring that much

food

> each

> > day, two freight trains, each at least amile long, would be

> required!

> > >

> > > Besides you must remember,

> they

> > were out in the desert, so they wouldhave to have firewood

to

> use in

> > cooking the food. This would take 4000tons of wood and a few

> more

> > freight trains, each a mile long, just for oneday.

> > >

> > > And just think, they were

> forty

> > years in transit.

> > >

> > > And Oh yes! They would

have

> to

> > have water. If they only had enough to drink and wash a few

> dishes,

> > it would take 11,000,000 gallons each dayand a freight train

> with

> > tank cars, 1800 miles long, just to bring water!

> > >

> > > And then another thing!

> > >

> > > They had to get across the

Red

> Sea

> > at night. Now, if they went on a narrow path, double file,

the

> line

> > would be 800 miles long and would require35 days and nights

to

> get

> > through. So there had to be a space in the RedSea, 3 miles

wide

> so

> > that they could walk 5000 abreast to get over in onenight.

> > >

> > > But then, there is another

> > problem...............each time they camped at the end of

the

> day, a

> > campground two-thirds the size of the state of Rhode Island

was

> > required, or a total of 750 square miles long........ think

of

> it!

> > This much space for camping.

> > >

> > > Do you think Moses figured

all

> this

> > out before he left Egypt? I think not!

> > >

> > > You see, Moses believed in

> God. God

> > took care of these things for him.

> > >

> > > Now do you think God has

any

> > problem taking care of all your needs?

> > >

> > > I asked the Lord to bless

you

> As I

> > prayed for you today. To guide you andprotect you as you go

> along

> > your way.... His love is always with you,

> > >

> > > His promises are true, And

> when we

> > give Him all our cares, You know Hewill see us through.

> > >

> > > Our God is an Awesome

God!!

> > >

> > > So when the road you're

> traveling

> > on seems difficult at best, just remember I'm praying and

God

> will do

> > the rest.

> > >

> > > Pass this to at least 10

> people you

> > want God to bless, and don't forget to send it back to the

one

> who

> > asked God to bless you first.

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I don't really know why, I just got a little interested in this and started

poking around. The following, and more than you ever wanted to know can be

found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus

" According to the Biblical account, it appears that 600,000 adult men left

Egypt, and traveled with Moses first to Mount Sinai; some 40 years later

their descendants invaded the land of Canaan. According to many Jewish

sources, the total number of Israelites including women and children

numbered some three million. Throughout history this story was generally

accepted as historically accurate; belief in the details of this story

wasn't a religious belief as such; rather, it was believed that this was a

historical fact that the Bible faithfully recorded.

" Recent archaeological research has cast doubt on this story.

Archaeologists have not found evidence that the Sinai was ever host to

millions of people, nor of a massive population increase in Canaan during

this time period. At this time in history, the land only had a population

of between 50,000 to 100,000.

" Archaeologists and historians have worked in the Middle East for many

years to determine approximately how many people have lived in a given area

at a given time. This is done by analyzing the evidence: buildings, trash,

human waste product, skeletons, traces of ancients farms and fields,

clothing, documents, and of course, historical records of those whom they

encountered.

" For fundamentalist Jews and Christians, these findings present a problem,

as they would invalidate a major claim in the Bible. Non-fundamentalist

factions of Judaism and Christianity find little problem with this issue.

" Many rabbis in the Talmud stated that one should never interpret certain

Torah verses literally. Later rabbis such as Maimonides taught that when

scientific evidence contradicts a current understanding of the Bible, that

means that we are obligated to reinterpret that verse in accord with

science. For many traditional rabbis, such a position was not heresy. This

view exists today within Conservative Judaism, Reform Judaism, and parts of

modern Orthodox Judaism. How can this text in Exodus be understood in light

of these findings?

" Hebrew University professor Abraham Malamat points out that the Bible

often refers to 600 and its multiples, as well as 1,000 and its multiples,

typologically in order to convey the idea of a large military unit. " The

issue of Exodus 12:37 is an interpretive one. The Hebrew word eleph can be

translated " thousand, " but it is also rendered in the Bible as " clans " and

" military units. " When I look at the question as an Egyptologist, I know

that there are thought to have been 20,000 in the entire Egyptian army at

the height of Egypt's empire. And at the battle of Ai in 7, there

was a severe military setback when 36 troops were killed. " Therefore if one

reads elephim as military units, the number of Hebrew fighting men was

between 5,000 and 6,000. This would give a total Hebrew population of less

than 20,000, something within the range of historical possibility.

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and on and on.

>You may not be far from the actual number. My rabbi says there were

>600,000 Hebrew " soldiers " who left with their entire families. Since

>most families at that time consisted of multiple wives and many

>children, 6 million may not be far off. If you take the current

>average of 2 parents and 2 children, you have 2.4 million. Then add

>the sisters, brothers, cousins and other family members.

>

>The rabbi intimated there was more to this, but he was rushing off.

>I'll bring it up again next week.

>Edith

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA ghekhuis@...

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