Re: pregnancy with adrenal fatigue

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Cherwyn,

There is nothing wrong with the attatchment parenting style. Many people use

this style and raise wonderful children. :-) I'm new to all the adrenal and

thyroid stuff, but I did take prednisone while pregnant with my oldest dd

(now 11). I will say that I ended up depressed after I had her. I have no

idea if it was related to the prednisone or not, but I don't really think it

was. I believe it was more hormonal. I also have a very strong suspicion

that the problems I'm having now started back then. They just weren't as bad

and got worse slowly. One thing you need to think about very seriously is if

you really think that dealing with a newborn would be detremental to your

health is that you will be depriving the 3 children you have now of their

mother. I'm not saying to not have another baby, but to research it and have

a good plan in place on how you need to care for yourself and the baby. Are

your other children old enough and willing to help out? How about your

husband? Do you have a good doctor that you could discuss this with? I would

make sure that he understands how all this stuff works so he could help you

through everything medically if you decide to go ahead. I'm not trying to

sound discouraging, just bringing up points. It would also make a difference

how the baby is. For instance, my oldest was high needs. She wanted to be

held all the time, had colic and so on. My youngest was much more laid back

and didn't take as much energy. ;-) Good luck with whatever you decide!

Cherie

>

> Hi,

> My daughter and I had successfully weaned off HC this past summer

> after I was on it 4 years, and she was on it a year. OK, good

> enough. But this fall with the return to school and routine and

> stress and deadlines, we just had to go back on it, 2.5mg/day. I

> hope it won't go any further than this! It's so much better when

> we can make our own cortisol!

>

> Anyway, I desperately want another baby, but I'm afraid that if I

> even make it through the pregnancy (which I hear actually lessens

> adrenal problems for people!), the nights of staying up with the

> baby and the stress of constantly being " on-call " to breastfeed,

> which I like to do with my babies, will kill me. My husband is of

> the same mind. I also don't let my kids cry themselves to sleep,

> and I pick them up when they cry. I'm just hard-wired to do this,

> so please no one give me advice about this. It's been 3 babies

> already and I don't think I'm going to change. None of our kids

> is spoiled, they are universally praised and people love to have

> them over to their homes so I think it hasn't destroyed them. We

> do train our children, which for us has nothing to do with giving

> them love when they cry.

>

> I'm at the point where if I don't get pregnant soon, I won't ever

> have another baby because of my age. (43) Yes I am well aware of

> the risks of having a baby at this age. My son keeps begging me

> for a baby and he's only externalizing the inner voice of my

> heart which wants just one more! I grew up in a family of four

> and loved it! It was a wonderful, happy noise - MOST of the time! LOL!!

>

> Has anyone here ever had a baby while on Cortef, and how did it

> go after the baby was born? Someone told me that the adrenals

> absolutely plummet after childbirth. Please relay your

> experiences to me, I am really just so dismal at the proposition

> that we can't have one more. I need advice, warnings, and

> assurances, whichever way your story goes ---

>

> Thank you all so much!

>

> Cherwyn

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Hi, Cherwyn,

I don't have a whole lot to offer you except sympathy, but I offer

that by the basket load. I have two beautiful girls, 6 and 9. They

were both extremely difficult babies (I literally did not get more

than two hour's sleep at a time for 6 six years). They cried

constantly. We made more than one ER trip due to 5-6 hour crying

bouts that would not stop. Today, they are much better, but still

have a lot of health, behavior, and learning issues. We have opted

for a non-drug approach, using diet and supplements and

homeschooling. To say they are high maintenance is an

understatement, but I would give my life for them.

Looking back on my history, I had some adrenal/thyroid problems

before my first child, but these two pregnancies and the girls'

continuing problems have put me over the top.

All that said, I would love to have another baby. I mourn the

peaceful infancies we never had. I would look at other babies

sleeping anywhere and be so frustrated. So, the thought having

another one brings a fear of going through that again. I don't know

if I could.

I am only 35, so age isn't so much an issue for me, but the next 2

1/2 years will be the best time for our family. My husband is in the

military and our current assignment is the easiest he's had since

9/11, in terms of time spent at home. Previously, he was gone to the

desert nearly 90% of the time. That wasn't a big help for my

adrenals!

We already know our next assignment, and it will require quite a bit

of travel time. So, it's sometime soon or not at all for us.

I am on a waiting list to see Dr. Rind. He's so booked up, he can't

take new patients until February. I am going to fly to see him in DC

since that is where we'll be going next, and he seems to be the

expert. Pregnancy is one of the things I will be discussing with

him.

If I do consider another pregnancy, I will be following the Weston A.

Price guidelines to the letter. You can find lots of info here:

www.westonaprice.org.

Please feel free to email me. I understand completely, As was

mentioned by someone else, we've got to be here for the families we

have. It's a lot to consider!

Hope it helps to know someone else is thinking about this,

[Guest guest]

> Anyway, I desperately want another baby, but I'm afraid that if I

> even make it through the pregnancy (which I hear actually lessens

> adrenal problems for people!), the nights of staying up with the

> baby and the stress of constantly being " on-call " to breastfeed,

> which I like to do with my babies, will kill me. My husband is of

> the same mind. I also don't let my kids cry themselves to sleep,

> and I pick them up when they cry. I'm just hard-wired to do this,

> so please no one give me advice about this.

I wasn't medicating my scragged adrenals during pregnancy so I'm

afraid I can't help with that aspect. I had two awful pregnancies

and worse deliveries; I still have PTSD & lots of pain from the

first. That, and the lack of sleep/rest/proper food and post-natal

depression segueing seamlessly on from my lifelong ante-natal

depression of course doesn't do anybody's stressed adrenals any good.

My beautiful girls are now nearly five & nearly two. Here are some

pics, because for once it is on-topic and I can't resist bragging:

http://www.scat.demon.co.uk/Clementine/

I freely admit it has been hard. When your health is bad, it is very

hard to keep going, but you have no choice, do you? The little ones

need it. I keep my head above water by two days a week, sometimes

three if I am particularly bad, sending them to a childminder. (Now

that the older one is at school full-time, it's just got cheaper.) I

justify this by insisting to myself that it is better for my child to

be looked after properly by a loving auntie-figure with lots of

energy, who plays with her properly and does interesting activities

with her, than it is for her to spend all her time with a mum who can

be too exhausted to even talk to her. The days off I spend asleep,

and we just about survive.

HOWEVER, they are absolutely worth it and I couldn't bear being

without them. No, the broken nights and the teething/constant snotty

colds/tonsilitis/nappy rash/chicken pox/whatever are really tough,

but it's not for ever, is it? It's only a few years out of my life;

they grow up so quickly. Maybe I would get my health sorted out a

lot quicker were it not for these stresses, but I wouldn't be so

happy. I love them so much there are not words.

Bottom line is, I can't see any reason for you not to have another

baby if you long for one so much. It won't be easy, but neither will

it be the end of you. And it will make your heart sing :-)

Rosie/5

PS I'd love to have another one too but at this point I seriously

doubt that we will (maybe if I had plenty of years ahead of me to get

my health sorted out first, but I am 39). I'm slowly coming round to

the idea that I should concentrate on enjoying the two I've already

got. But my heart wants another...

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Anyway, I desperately want another baby, but I'm afraid that if I

> even make it through the pregnancy (which I hear actually lessens

> adrenal problems for people!), the nights of staying up with the

> baby and the stress of constantly being " on-call " to breastfeed,

> which I like to do with my babies, will kill me. My husband is of

> the same mind. I also don't let my kids cry themselves to sleep,

> and I pick them up when they cry. I'm just hard-wired to do this,

> so please no one give me advice about this.

>

Oh yes, and I forgot to say that regarding the attachment parenting

thing, you are preaching to the converted with me. I am just the

same so I wouldn't dream of criticing you for it. I'm also not

convinced it's bad for your adrenals. Yes the broken nights are

hard, but you also get lovely baby snuggles which I reckon is good

for you (gotta look on the bright side, eh?). And on the flip side,

to NOT attend to a howling child is dreadfully stressful on you, so

IMHO I think you have it the right way round.

Being on-call with your breasts, yes that's a tie, but again it won't

be more than a few months before the feeds get less frequent. After

the baby's onto solid foods it'll get much easier. Have you mastered

the art of nursing lying down? (I could never do it; reckon my boobs

are the wrong shape). If you have your baby co-sleep then nursing

lying down should hardly disturb you at all. My second baby & I

loved to sleep snuggled up. Yes she always woke in the night to

feed, but sitting up & nursing her & then laying her down again was a

heck of a lot less disruptive than having to get out of bed & walk to

her bedroom & attend to her there. In other words, AP makes life

easier :-)

Rosie/5

[Guest guest]

For those of you who gave birth...

Did you have your baby's 24 hr saliva screened to see if your child's

adrenals were compensated during the pregnancy to make up for the

mother's deficiency?

Don't you think the baby would have to be weaned off the HC after

birth if the mother was taking it?

Go to www.youtube.com and type in adrenals...you will see Dr.Borkin

come up. Look for his lecture on " cannabolism...something " He

explains how severe morning sickness in the beginning is common for

the AF woman, but they feel great during the 3rd trimester because

they are living off of their baby's adrenal glands, and by the time

the baby is born, the kid has severe adrenal fatigue.

Tasia

[Guest guest]

I always wondered about that why some people get such bad morning sickness

and others do not. I always figured it was adrenal and/or thyroid related

because it is much more common now than decades ago.

Thanks for that info, Tasia.

Cheri

Re: pregnancy with adrenal fatigue

For those of you who gave birth...

Did you have your baby's 24 hr saliva screened to see if your child's

adrenals were compensated during the pregnancy to make up for the

mother's deficiency?

Don't you think the baby would have to be weaned off the HC after

birth if the mother was taking it?

Go to www.youtube.com and type in adrenals...you will see Dr.Borkin

come up. Look for his lecture on " cannabolism...something " He

explains how severe morning sickness in the beginning is common for

the AF woman, but they feel great during the 3rd trimester because

they are living off of their baby's adrenal glands, and by the time

the baby is born, the kid has severe adrenal fatigue.

Tasia

.

[Guest guest]

>

> For those of you who gave birth...

>

> Did you have your baby's 24 hr saliva screened to see if your child's

> adrenals were compensated during the pregnancy to make up for the

> mother's deficiency?

How on earth would you do that?? It takes me a good half hour to

collect enough saliva for each sample. How would you collect it from a

baby?

> Go to www.youtube.com and type in adrenals...you will see Dr.Borkin

> come up. Look for his lecture on " cannabolism...something " He

> explains how severe morning sickness in the beginning is common for

> the AF woman, but they feel great during the 3rd trimester because

> they are living off of their baby's adrenal glands, and by the time

> the baby is born, the kid has severe adrenal fatigue.

That's what I heard too. And #1 brat is definitely AF even though she

is not yet five. She was a delicate thing from the day she was born -

always has been freaked by loud noises, bright lights, too many people

& c. It's just one of the many things I feel guilty about.

Rosie/5

[Guest guest]

For the ASI you just put the swab under the tongue for 5 minutes and

it soaks up the saliva.

Linn

>

> How on earth would you do that?? It takes me a good half hour to

> collect enough saliva for each sample. How would you collect it from a

> baby?

[Guest guest]

So, is there anything specific to look for in your children? I felt fine

during my first pregnancy, but she was a very high needs baby. Wanted to be

held all the time, had colic, spitting up (sometimes projectile). She does

have a tendency to be droopy sometimes, so now I'm worried. My youngest I

had constant morning sickness the entire pregnancy. I actually lost weight

during that pregnancy, but she grew at an appropriate rate. As soon as I

gave birth, I wanted food. It was like a switch had been thrown. She wasn't

nearly as demanding and didn't have colic, but I'm wondering now because I'm

pretty sure my system was already screwed up. Any ideas on where I can find

more specific info. on children and adrenal fatigue? How in heaven's name am

I going to find someone to treat them if they need it? I've had a hard

enough time finding someone to listen to me as an adult. Would using HC

cream and adrenal support like licorice be good to start anyway or should I

defineately get them tested to be sure? I'm sure later I'll look back and

think that I should be able figure some of this out myself, but I am truly

freaking out right now. I hate that I sound so melodramatic, but my hands

are shaking just thinking that I might be responsible for harming my

children in anyway no matter how unintentional. I always knew with Chron's

disease that there was a possiblity that I could pass it on, but there was

also a good chance that I wouldn't. I realize that this doesn't make any

sense because I didn't know anything about adrenal fatigue at all back then,

much less that I might have it and it could harm my baby while I was

pregnant. I think I'll go take a Xanex now....

Cherie

> I always wondered about that why some people get such bad morning sickness

> and others do not. I always figured it was adrenal and/or thyroid related

> because it is much more common now than decades ago.

>

> Thanks for that info, Tasia.

>

> Cheri

>

>

>

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>

How in heaven's name am

> I going to find someone to treat them if they need it? I've had a hard

> enough time finding someone to listen to me as an adult. Would using HC

> cream and adrenal support like licorice be good to start anyway or

should I

> defineately get them tested to be sure?

> Cherie

>

>

> > I always wondered about that why some people get such bad morning

sickness

> > and others do not. I always figured it was adrenal and/or thyroid

related

> > because it is much more common now than decades ago.

> >

> > Thanks for that info, Tasia.

> >

> > Cheri

> >

> >

Cheri,

I'm sure my mother had adrenal fatigue with me...do I hate her

for it? No, it was unintentional but it sure is fun to manipulate her

guilt. Some states have mandatory testing for cortisol levels on

newborns. And as far as collecting saliva from a baby, don't they

generate saliva when you give them something to chew on, such as a

finger? Let them smell a little milk and I'm sure the drool will start?

Start by calling this guy and get a referral for someone in your area.

Get several names b/c one of the names he gave me was a guy who

charges $700 on the first appointment. I don't pay more that $250 for

an intake--that price is just greedy. Or call ND's and ask if they

treat adrenal fatigue in kids, if so, HOW.

Co-founder & Research Director Research Director Sabre Sciences, Inc.

NIER

2233 Faraday Ave Suite K, 1817 S. Eastern Ave.

Carlsbad, California 90402 Las Vegas, Nevada 89117

Tel: Tel:

E-mail: drb@... E-mail: gr8dr@...

This video explains how this cycle happens:

Tasia

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tasia! I know it isn't my fault really, but I can't help but feel

guilty about it. My oldest is 11yo and puberty is about to start, so I

definately want to get her sorted out. My youngest is 6yo, but seems to be

the healthier of the two. I homeschool so at least they don't have to deal

with the stresses of public school. I looked at the video last night.

Cherie

> Cheri,

> I'm sure my mother had adrenal fatigue with me...do I hate her

> for it? No, it was unintentional but it sure is fun to manipulate her

> guilt. Some states have mandatory testing for cortisol levels on

> newborns. And as far as collecting saliva from a baby, don't they

> generate saliva when you give them something to chew on, such as a

> finger? Let them smell a little milk and I'm sure the drool will start?

>

> Start by calling this guy and get a referral for someone in your area.

> Get several names b/c one of the names he gave me was a guy who

> charges $700 on the first appointment. I don't pay more that $250 for

> an intake--that price is just greedy. Or call ND's and ask if they

> treat adrenal fatigue in kids, if so, HOW.

>

> Co-founder & Research Director Research Director Sabre Sciences, Inc.

> NIER

> 2233 Faraday Ave Suite K, 1817 S. Eastern Ave.

> Carlsbad, California 90402 Las Vegas, Nevada 89117

> Tel: Tel:

> E-mail: drb@... E-mail: gr8dr@...

>

> This video explains how this cycle happens:

>

>

>

> Tasia

>

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