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Hi Sue

I'm 5'6 " age 46. As you've probably seen from another message, I

usually do Pilates twice a week but I'm so exhausted atm from the

thyroid problem that I can't make it right now. I really hope to

get back to it soon.

I've done the old aerobic thing - over 10 years 2-3 times a week -

and I never found it helped with my weight problem. Now I

concentrate on eating right, with the most nutrient dense foods.

Pilates suits me very well, it's a fantastic exercise - when I can

manage it!

I wouldn't want to reduce my calories as much as you. To me 1300-

1400 calories is a starvation diet and right now my body needs

nuturing, not harsh discipline! Not that I haven't tried it in the

past, of course ... :¬/

Cholesterol ... ah now there is a another bone of contention! I've

also got " high " cholesterol but I think it is a symptom of my

hypothyroid status and anyway I'm a Cholesterol Skeptic. My studies

of nutrition and the chemistry of nutrition have informed me that if

your cholesterol is " high " then it is because your body needs more

of it for any number of reasons. Dietary intake makes hardly any

difference to cholesterol in the body - if your body neeeds more it

will simply make it (from the carbohydrate intake, actually!).

Blaming cholesterol for heart disease is like blaming the firemen

for the fire.

OK ... stepping off soapbox now ... :)

Katy

>

> Hi Katy,

>

> 2,500 calories a day for a woman seems high to me ‹ how tall are

you and do

> exercise more than 3x a week aerobically?

>

> I am 5¹4² and 48 years old and if I eat over 1600 calories a day I

> instantly gain weight on a daily basis.

>

> Right now I eat 1300 to 1400 calories a day and exercise 3 to 5

times a week

> and am losing about 1/2 lb. a week.

>

> My meals are like this:

>

> Breakfast: 1 egg, a piece of toast and an orange OR some lean

turkey slices,

> part skim cheese and a fruit

>

> SNACK: apple with handful of nuts

>

> Lunch: Tuna fish or lean ham or turkey sandwich, small salad,

fruit, v-8

> juice

>

> SNACK: orange with some crackers or handful of nuts

>

> Dinner: Small portion of fish or chicken, 2 veggies, salad, and a

fat ­

> usually a pat of butter

>

> Then I may have an evening snack of fruit or piece of cheese with

a little

> juice.

>

> My cholesterol runs high so I have to stick with pretty much a low-

fat

> regimen.

>

>

>

> Sue

>

Guest guest
Posted

Hi Katy,

I mis-spoke if I said I am doing aerobics, I gave that up a month ago for yoga, hand weights, and resistence training 5 x a week alternating.

I am in a “healing process” myself right now after working with a nutritionist, a biologist, and a few doctors about my conditions: hypo, hashis, high cholesterol and borderline high blood pressure, and the added weight gain.

Heart disease runs in my family. My father and one of my brothers died in their fifties from strokes and massive heart attacks, my mother died of a stroke at 73, so even though, like you I am skeptical of Cholesterol, I have a high risk famiily history of it and do need to be mindful of that. I do not take meds for it and won’t no matter how much they push it – I take natural supplements and have brought down my cholesterol 20 percent in the last two months.

I am not at all on a starvation diet as I am pretty darn sedentary — I am a book designer and typesetter and work 10 hours a day on the computer, sitting — I sleep six hours, maybe 7 so as you can see, I am pretty darn idle, and couple that with a low metabolism and an inability to burn carbs and that makes for a low caloric intake need. I feel very satisfied, energetic and full after I eat — and I have stopped my cravings for any junk food which I though would never happen :)

What is your weight and how much are you gaining? The bottom line is if we take in more calories than we burn we will lose weight – I eat what I need and I eat when I am hungry. I try and make sure to have a protein/carb or fat/carb or protien/fat, etc with every meal and I eat TONS of fruit and veggies and drink 10 glasses of water a day. When I eat more than what I eat, it’s for comfort and taste, and I can feel that...

Glad you found what works for you, and vice versa — we are all so different and that’s what makes this world a really neat place!

Sue

Hi Sue

I'm 5'6 " age 46. As you've probably seen from another message, I

usually do Pilates twice a week but I'm so exhausted atm from the

thyroid problem that I can't make it right now. I really hope to

get back to it soon.

I've done the old aerobic thing - over 10 years 2-3 times a week -

and I never found it helped with my weight problem. Now I

concentrate on eating right, with the most nutrient dense foods.

Pilates suits me very well, it's a fantastic exercise - when I can

manage it!

I wouldn't want to reduce my calories as much as you. To me 1300-

1400 calories is a starvation diet and right now my body needs

nuturing, not harsh discipline! Not that I haven't tried it in the

past, of course ... :¬/

Cholesterol ... ah now there is a another bone of contention! I've

also got " high " cholesterol but I think it is a symptom of my

hypothyroid status and anyway I'm a Cholesterol Skeptic. My studies

of nutrition and the chemistry of nutrition have informed me that if

your cholesterol is " high " then it is because your body needs more

of it for any number of reasons. Dietary intake makes hardly any

difference to cholesterol in the body - if your body neeeds more it

will simply make it (from the carbohydrate intake, actually!).

Blaming cholesterol for heart disease is like blaming the firemen

for the fire.

OK ... stepping off soapbox now ... :)

Katy

>

> Hi Katy,

>

> 2,500 calories a day for a woman seems high to me — how tall are

you and do

> exercise more than 3x a week aerobically?

>

> I am 5’4” and 48 years old and if I eat over 1600 calories a day I

> instantly gain weight on a daily basis.

>

> Right now I eat 1300 to 1400 calories a day and exercise 3 to 5

times a week

> and am losing about 1/2 lb. a week.

>

> My meals are like this:

>

> Breakfast: 1 egg, a piece of toast and an orange OR some lean

turkey slices,

> part skim cheese and a fruit

>

> SNACK: apple with handful of nuts

>

> Lunch: Tuna fish or lean ham or turkey sandwich, small salad,

fruit, v-8

> juice

>

> SNACK: orange with some crackers or handful of nuts

>

> Dinner: Small portion of fish or chicken, 2 veggies, salad, and a

fat –

> usually a pat of butter

>

> Then I may have an evening snack of fruit or piece of cheese with

a little

> juice.

>

> My cholesterol runs high so I have to stick with pretty much a low-

fat

> regimen.

>

>

>

> Sue

>

Guest guest
Posted

Correction to below: “.. If we take in more calories than we burn we will GAIN weight..”

sue

Hi Katy,

I mis-spoke if I said I am doing aerobics, I gave that up a month ago for yoga, hand weights, and resistence training 5 x a week alternating.

I am in a “healing process” myself right now after working with a nutritionist, a biologist, and a few doctors about my conditions: hypo, hashis, high cholesterol and borderline high blood pressure, and the added weight gain.

Heart disease runs in my family. My father and one of my brothers died in their fifties from strokes and massive heart attacks, my mother died of a stroke at 73, so even though, like you I am skeptical of Cholesterol, I have a high risk famiily history of it and do need to be mindful of that. I do not take meds for it and won’t no matter how much they push it – I take natural supplements and have brought down my cholesterol 20 percent in the last two months.

I am not at all on a starvation diet as I am pretty darn sedentary — I am a book designer and typesetter and work 10 hours a day on the computer, sitting — I sleep six hours, maybe 7 so as you can see, I am pretty darn idle, and couple that with a low metabolism and an inability to burn carbs and that makes for a low caloric intake need. I feel very satisfied, energetic and full after I eat — and I have stopped my cravings for any junk food which I though would never happen :)

What is your weight and how much are you gaining? The bottom line is if we take in more calories than we burn we will lose weight – I eat what I need and I eat when I am hungry. I try and make sure to have a protein/carb or fat/carb or protien/fat, etc with every meal and I eat TONS of fruit and veggies and drink 10 glasses of water a day. When I eat more than what I eat, it’s for comfort and taste, and I can feel that...

Glad you found what works for you, and vice versa — we are all so different and that’s what makes this world a really neat place!

Sue

Hi Sue

I'm 5'6 " age 46. As you've probably seen from another message, I

usually do Pilates twice a week but I'm so exhausted atm from the

thyroid problem that I can't make it right now. I really hope to

get back to it soon.

I've done the old aerobic thing - over 10 years 2-3 times a week -

and I never found it helped with my weight problem. Now I

concentrate on eating right, with the most nutrient dense foods.

Pilates suits me very well, it's a fantastic exercise - when I can

manage it!

I wouldn't want to reduce my calories as much as you. To me 1300-

1400 calories is a starvation diet and right now my body needs

nuturing, not harsh discipline! Not that I haven't tried it in the

past, of course ... :¬/

Cholesterol ... ah now there is a another bone of contention! I've

also got " high " cholesterol but I think it is a symptom of my

hypothyroid status and anyway I'm a Cholesterol Skeptic. My studies

of nutrition and the chemistry of nutrition have informed me that if

your cholesterol is " high " then it is because your body needs more

of it for any number of reasons. Dietary intake makes hardly any

difference to cholesterol in the body - if your body neeeds more it

will simply make it (from the carbohydrate intake, actually!).

Blaming cholesterol for heart disease is like blaming the firemen

for the fire.

OK ... stepping off soapbox now ... :)

Katy

>

> Hi Katy,

>

> 2,500 calories a day for a woman seems high to me — how tall are

you and do

> exercise more than 3x a week aerobically?

>

> I am 5’4” and 48 years old and if I eat over 1600 calories a day I

> instantly gain weight on a daily basis.

>

> Right now I eat 1300 to 1400 calories a day and exercise 3 to 5

times a week

> and am losing about 1/2 lb. a week.

>

> My meals are like this:

>

> Breakfast: 1 egg, a piece of toast and an orange OR some lean

turkey slices,

> part skim cheese and a fruit

>

> SNACK: apple with handful of nuts

>

> Lunch: Tuna fish or lean ham or turkey sandwich, small salad,

fruit, v-8

> juice

>

> SNACK: orange with some crackers or handful of nuts

>

> Dinner: Small portion of fish or chicken, 2 veggies, salad, and a

fat –

> usually a pat of butter

>

> Then I may have an evening snack of fruit or piece of cheese with

a little

> juice.

>

> My cholesterol runs high so I have to stick with pretty much a low-

fat

> regimen.

>

>

>

> Sue

>

Guest guest
Posted

Hi Sue

Sorry - having reread your reply, I realise I misread it about the

aerobics thing. Put it down to brain fog! :)

Heart disease is in my family too as my father died of heart attack

at 53. It was 25 years ago, however, so we have no idea what his

cholesterol levels were and, in fact, my brother has very low

cholesterol so it's possibly my father's cholesterol was low too.

Despite pressure from mainstream, I still find it hard to accept

that cholesterol has any real bearing on CHD risk, having read up on

it all. For example, did you know that, in a large study, less than

40% of people who suffered CHD had high cholesterol? That means

that over 60% of people with CHD had " normal " or low cholesterol.

Seems a nice even spread to me. Where is the risk?

http://www.lipidsonline.org/slides/slide01.cfm?tk=19 & dpg=3

Even the " threshhold " of 200 for cholesterol was picked out of the

air by some researchers so that they would have plenty of people for

their upcoming study.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/enig_chol.html

Making people lower their cholesterol with drugs is risky too. Not

only are Statins not as " safe " as the manufacturers would have us

all believe, but people with " low " cholesterol have a higher risk of

depression, mental illness, antisocial behaviour, violence and

death - often through suicide.

I actually don't know how much I weigh because I go by my clothes.

I do know that up til about 2 years ago I was maintaining a size

10/12 and now I struggle to fit into most size 12s at all. I think

I must be really a size 14 now. It's very depressing.

I'm also not sure I believe the " calorie is a calorie " idea either!

That assumes that every piece of food you put in your mouth

functions as a piece of energy and food has so many functions -

building, repair, maintenance, hormone synthesis, etc etc etc that

it's not just about burning a calorie. Also different types of food

are metabolised differently. I don't think it is that simple.

What it boils down to, I think, which I feel you have all helped me

to accept in these last messages, that I just have to be PATIENT!

and wait until I can get my body temperature up with slowly

increasing doses of Armour. Boy - and that is Slooooow ...

Katy

>

> Hi Katy,

>

> I mis-spoke if I said I am doing aerobics, I gave that up a month

ago for

> yoga, hand weights, and resistence training 5 x a week alternating.

> I am in a ³healing process² myself right now after working with a

> nutritionist, a biologist, and a few doctors about my conditions:

hypo,

> hashis, high cholesterol and borderline high blood pressure, and

the added

> weight gain.

>

> Heart disease runs in my family. My father and one of my brothers

died in

> their fifties from strokes and massive heart attacks, my mother

died of a

> stroke at 73, so even though, like you I am skeptical of

Cholesterol, I have

> a high risk famiily history of it and do need to be mindful of

that. I do

> not take meds for it and won¹t no matter how much they push it ­ I

take

> natural supplements and have brought down my cholesterol 20

percent in the

> last two months.

>

> I am not at all on a starvation diet as I am pretty darn

sedentary ‹ I am a

> book designer and typesetter and work 10 hours a day on the

computer,

> sitting ‹ I sleep six hours, maybe 7 so as you can see, I am

pretty darn

> idle, and couple that with a low metabolism and an inability to

burn carbs

> and that makes for a low caloric intake need. I feel very

satisfied,

> energetic and full after I eat ‹ and I have stopped my cravings

for any junk

> food which I though would never happen :)

>

> What is your weight and how much are you gaining? The bottom line

is if we

> take in more calories than we burn we will lose weight ­ I eat what

I need

> and I eat when I am hungry. I try and make sure to have a

protein/carb or

> fat/carb or protien/fat, etc with every meal and I eat TONS of

fruit and

> veggies and drink 10 glasses of water a day. When I eat more than

what I

> eat, it¹s for comfort and taste, and I can feel that...

>

> Glad you found what works for you, and vice versa ‹ we are all so

different

> and that¹s what makes this world a really neat place!

> Sue

>

Guest guest
Posted

>

Hi Katy, Just reading your post...have you heard of or been tested for

Factor V Leiden? Its detected by a blood test. Its dominent family

inherited. Its leads to DVT and lung clots ( PE). I have it - am on

another List for it - just wondered if you were aware. 5% of the

population have this gene. My father had a heart attack at 45. His

brother had a lung clot 12 hours after surgery. I had a leg clot 10

days after minor knee surgery ...

Contact me off list if you wish.

Jane

> Hi Sue

>

> Sorry - having reread your reply, I realise I misread it about the

> aerobics thing. Put it down to brain fog! :)

>

> Heart disease is in my family too as my father died of heart attack

> at 53. It was 25 years ago, however, so we have no idea what his

> cholesterol levels were and, in fact, my brother has very low

> cholesterol so it's possibly my father's cholesterol was low too.

>

> Despite pressure from mainstream, I still find it hard to accept

> that cholesterol has any real bearing on CHD risk, having read up on

> it all. For example, did you know that, in a large study, less than

> 40% of people who suffered CHD had high cholesterol? That means

> that over 60% of people with CHD had " normal " or low cholesterol.

> Seems a nice even spread to me. Where is the risk?

>

Guest guest
Posted

Hi Katy,

There is no black and white when it comes to anything in life so I understand how you feel.

The main concern I have in my family with cholesterol is that we ALL have it, and many deaths from strokes, clots, etc.

If I remove one more risk — others being overweight, borderline high blood pressure, and not exercising enough, etc. I can’t see how it would hurt.

Anything we can do to improve or lessen our risk, is a good thing :)

I won’t take cholesterol-lowering drugs and I have both my endo and GP suggesting STRONGLY that I do due to my risk factors and the history of family disease and that makes sense in the medical community but I am going to first try to lower it myself and improve my quality of life by DE-stressifying, as I call it — I have “run on empty” most of my life and I am now, at 48, taking a little time for me... It’s not easy with two kids under 18 and running my own business, but it’s a must — something has to give.

You are right --- PATIENCE is the key... It’s the one area I need the most work on and am starting with the deep breathing, the Yoga, and cutting back my work hours a little bit...

While I can’t prove that high cholesterol is a sure fire killer, I can’t see any reason not to lower it since it is a known risk, that’s about all I can say on that... If I exercised more, and got my blood pumping to clear out my arteries better, I wouldn’t worry so much — but my adrenal glands are on overdrive and I was told to put a halt to any stressors right now...

Sue

Hi Sue

Sorry - having reread your reply, I realise I misread it about the

aerobics thing. Put it down to brain fog! :)

Heart disease is in my family too as my father died of heart attack

at 53. It was 25 years ago, however, so we have no idea what his

cholesterol levels were and, in fact, my brother has very low

cholesterol so it's possibly my father's cholesterol was low too.

Despite pressure from mainstream, I still find it hard to accept

that cholesterol has any real bearing on CHD risk, having read up on

it all. For example, did you know that, in a large study, less than

40% of people who suffered CHD had high cholesterol? That means

that over 60% of people with CHD had " normal " or low cholesterol.

Seems a nice even spread to me. Where is the risk?

http://www.lipidsonline.org/slides/slide01.cfm?tk=19 & dpg=3

Even the " threshhold " of 200 for cholesterol was picked out of the

air by some researchers so that they would have plenty of people for

their upcoming study.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/enig_chol.html

Making people lower their cholesterol with drugs is risky too. Not

only are Statins not as " safe " as the manufacturers would have us

all believe, but people with " low " cholesterol have a higher risk of

depression, mental illness, antisocial behaviour, violence and

death - often through suicide.

I actually don't know how much I weigh because I go by my clothes.

I do know that up til about 2 years ago I was maintaining a size

10/12 and now I struggle to fit into most size 12s at all. I think

I must be really a size 14 now. It's very depressing.

I'm also not sure I believe the " calorie is a calorie " idea either!

That assumes that every piece of food you put in your mouth

functions as a piece of energy and food has so many functions -

building, repair, maintenance, hormone synthesis, etc etc etc that

it's not just about burning a calorie. Also different types of food

are metabolised differently. I don't think it is that simple.

What it boils down to, I think, which I feel you have all helped me

to accept in these last messages, that I just have to be PATIENT!

and wait until I can get my body temperature up with slowly

increasing doses of Armour. Boy - and that is Slooooow ...

Katy

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