Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yes, it is still low. Re: Re: wired but tired >>I never denied I was hypo. I have always been suspect for hypo and tried taking thyroid hormone but when I do I become Hyper and I can't take it.<< I do nto think you become hyper at all. NERVOUS and ANXIOUS are ADRENAL symptoms and IMPOSSIBLE to be caused by hyperthyroid with the doses you are taking. If this happens again check your temp. I bet it is still low. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Funny but my beau and I have this conversation all the time. We talk about how people are living too long these days. I too wonder if according to nature we are supposed to be gone before we even reach menopause. Re: wired but tired > > If Fibro and CFS are both adrenal/thyroid then how come nobody > completely recovers when these two things are treated? I believe > only the hypothalamus being dysregulated can cause the wide array of > symptoms in the wide array of systems that break down in both of > these conditions. At the risk of being shouted at, maybe it's because we shouldn't be alive. Go back a hundred years ago or so, and the chance of a child surviving to adulthood was not good. I wish I had figures to hand; all I can remember off-hand is Mark Starr's assertion that in Graz two hundred years ago (or was it 300?) 98 out of every 100 newborns died; an appalling figure. In the West these days, childhood deaths from infections like cholera, diphtheria, polio, whooping cough, tetanus, dysentery, chest infections, TB & so on are more or less zero. And this is clearly better, isn't it? Better for the parents of course, who don't have the agony of losing children, but is it better for the individuals who would not have survived were it not for vaccinations, antibiotics, inhalers & whatnot? I am one of those who should not have survived childhood (in fact I nearly didn't, but that's another story). In the West at least, natural selection is over. Severe adrenal fatigue is the family disease - brains the size of planets, but not physically fit. I shouldn't have survived, and I shouldn't have bred. A dear friend of mine just died from Cystic Fibrosis at the age of 37, whilst waiting for a lung transplant. One the one hand he had a good innings as he had a tough form of CF and even a few years ago would not have been expected to live to thirty even; on the other I doubt he would have survived childhood before antibiotics as he had frequent pneumonia... I won't go into details. He was always adamant that he would not have children, and I think he had the right of it. Sorry if this ruffles any feathers; it's something I am struggling with a lot at the moment. Not my own ill-health <shrug> but my children's. I have two tinies; one is nearly five and takes after me so much it is frightening. She is a fragile thing both physically and emotionally and despite a careful, loving environment clearly has inherited my adrenals, and I feel so guilty about that. OTOH, my second is nearly two and is *very* robust, taking after her dad's side of the family (her dad being as fit as a butcher's dog). I'll never be able to treat them equally, as #1 needs a quiet life while #2 does not. Sorry, I seemed to need to get that off my chest... Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I would NOT ever get a copper IUD put in me. Use a diaphragm. I used one for years from age 25-40 and they work just fine once you get used to it. Re: wired but tired > > The " tired and wired " thing you are describing goes along with high > copper women as well who have copper toxicity and don't know it. > It's described in detail in an excellent book called " Why am I always > So Tired " by Louise Gittleman. The copper stresses the thyroid > and adrenals, but because copper is a stimulant it makes us wired and > tired at the same time. Oh no. Oh damn. I was going to get an IUD fitted this weekend. I guess that scuppers that. Damn damn damn damn damn. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Hi, I never chime in here on other peoples post but I want to tell you I am self treating with Vals help. I had my thyroid removed 2yrs ago. I have been sick my whole life with thyroid and adrenal. I am now a functioning person. I had no memory, bald spots, panic attacks, I was a reck. I now have hair, and can remember things and starting to get a life and care about things. No doctor helped me. Val did. So some of us are recovering. Happy Holidays everybody. I didn't give a sh*t about Christmas for yrs. because I couldn't. Now I can. Thanks again Val. hugs, Bernetta -- Re: wired but tired >>Yeah Val, I agree. But neither are the people who are self-treating with Armour and HC and taking as much as they need recovering, e.g. people on this list and others.<< Well that's a negative attitude! I have actually seen quite a few people here get their lives back when they were bedbound, and it takes TIME abotu 2 years and maybe longer depending on how long they have been ill. Heck it can take a couple years to get thyroid correct and start healing form that and that is once the cortiosl is adjusted well. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think it's fabulous that you have recovered as you have. However the comment made on this post wasn't about people with no thyroid. It was only about people with chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. I cannot even imagine how ill one would feel with ny thyroid gland and I'm so glad you found this group and mostly Val. Re: wired but tired >>Yeah Val, I agree. But neither are the people who are self-treating with Armour and HC and taking as much as they need recovering, e.g. people on this list and others.<< Well that's a negative attitude! I have actually seen quite a few people here get their lives back when they were bedbound, and it takes TIME abotu 2 years and maybe longer depending on how long they have been ill. Heck it can take a couple years to get thyroid correct and start healing form that and that is once the cortiosl is adjusted well. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Bernetta, posts like yours are what I live for! I have had friends ask me WHY I dovote so much time on the internet.. what could be SO engrossing that I sit here day after day posting. People feeling better IN SPITE OF poor medical care is why. To try to save people's lives when I realized bad doctors were actually killing people. Since I became aware of how MUCH poor medical care there really is and how many people actually die from it, I am on a crusade. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I am on a crusade. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > We are thankful that you care enough to crusade for us!!! Gale, who slept straight through until 5AM last night for the first time since starting HC 2 weeks ago. YEAHHHH!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Vaccinations first and foremost, mercury fillings secondary and the ongoing poisoning. Still trying to find the right dentist to remove them and who I can afford. Have to build up my adrenals better first. Cheri Re: wired but tired > but years ago he helped me online free when I was really dying and > that is how I got on the path to finding out I was mercury toxic. May I ask where your mercury poisoning came from? Rosie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 , Hi, I also have CFS and Fibro. They told me I had a thyroid tumor when I was 21. I had my thyroid removed after a thyroid storm and went into cardiac arrest 2yrs. ago at age 53. So I have lived all my life with CFS, Fibo, Hashi's, Adrenal. I had huge bald spots tons of times and the doctor told me you have a fungus on you head like maybe you picked it up at the movies. No it was my thryoid. I was in bed for the past 3yrs. pretty much. I also have Vulvodynia and Pudendal Neuralgia which can be symptom of under treated thyroid which is the case with me. All my symptoms with all these things keep improving from my Armour and treating my adrenals and also my hormones and ferriten. I eat a very strick diet, no gluten, and no sugar. I also had major candida. My body still hurts but as long as my mind is better it helps everything. I have a long way to go. I am on disability. I'm just so happy I am really making progress. I'm happy I can drive and remember how to get places and why I am there. LOL Bernetta -- Re: wired but tired I think it's fabulous that you have recovered as you have. However the comment made on this post wasn't about people with no thyroid. It was only about people with chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. I cannot even imagine how ill one would feel with ny thyroid gland and I'm so glad you found this group and mostly Val. Re: wired but tired >>Yeah Val, I agree. But neither are the people who are self-treating with Armour and HC and taking as much as they need recovering, e.g. people on this list and others.<< Well that's a negative attitude! I have actually seen quite a few people here get their lives back when they were bedbound, and it takes TIME abotu 2 years and maybe longer depending on how long they have been ill. Heck it can take a couple years to get thyroid correct and start healing form that and that is once the cortiosl is adjusted well. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I have similar thoughts to this that I am in need of sharing now.I have a brother who has severe paranoid schizophrenia. My uncle also had some neurological and or mental problem. I have CFs. Could not get married and have a child because of my illness.My brother also could not have a child. So our family will not continue.I am thinking this is natural selection.Elimination of the weak.. bw Nil At the risk of being shouted at, maybe it's because we shouldn't be alive. Go back a hundred years ago or so, and the chance of a child surviving to adulthood was not good. I wish I had figures to hand; all I can remember off-hand is Mark Starr's assertion that in Graz two hundred years ago (or was it 300?) 98 out of every 100 newborns died; an appalling figure. In the West these days, childhood deaths from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 It is strange for those of us who would have been dead except for modern medicine. I'd have died in childbirth, and probably my son would have died also. But then again, maybe not with a competent midwife of former ages, there might be herbal medicines which could have helped too. Just don't know for sure, but I do believe I'd have died. That is one of the only times I was grateful for doctors. sol Gikas wrote: > Funny but my beau and I have this conversation all the time. We talk about how people are living too long these days. I too wonder if according to nature we are supposed to be gone before we even reach menopause. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 That's great Bernetta. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing. Re: wired but tired >>Yeah Val, I agree. But neither are the people who are self-treating with Armour and HC and taking as much as they need recovering, e.g. people on this list and others.<< Well that's a negative attitude! I have actually seen quite a few people here get their lives back when they were bedbound, and it takes TIME abotu 2 years and maybe longer depending on how long they have been ill. Heck it can take a couple years to get thyroid correct and start healing form that and that is once the cortiosl is adjusted well. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 > > I would NOT ever get a copper IUD put in me. Use a diaphragm. I > used one for years from age 25-40 and they work just fine once you > get used to it. I do use a diaphragm, have done for 15-odd years. And that was how I got DD#2, as a result of which DH won't come near me. Looks like a vasectomy is all that's left :-( Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 > > It is strange for those of us who would have been dead except for > modern medicine. I'd have died in childbirth, and probably my son > would have died also. But then again, maybe not with a competent > midwife of former ages, there might be herbal medicines which could > have helped too. Just don't know for sure, but I do believe I'd have > died. That is one of the only times I was grateful for doctors. Oh I quite agree - I needed two Caesareans, and the second one in particular I was only too grateful for, as I knew she wasn't coming out naturally (and I was right - she was 10lb 2oz and posterior; no wonder!). But that wasn't quite my point - I was talking about the gene pool not being winnowed out like it was in ages past. Maybe us lot on this forum are the ones who would not have survived childhood in ages past. How many of us here - serious question - were fighting fit & full of beans until we were brung low by hypoT/AF issues? Not me, for sure. Bring on bird flu, say I. Misery & grieving aside, the world will be a better place for those left afterwards. In the sense of fitness of the surviving gene pool, anyway. Jeez I'm in an odd mood tonight. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 > > > > >>Okay so I'll rephrase. When one is hypoT AND hypoA, does > treating just adrenals make hypoT worse or better?<< > > > > Neither! It will LOOK worse on the labs as when their is enough > cortisol the T3 can get into the cells so it will not all be floating > in the blood looking really pretty on blood tests whiel you are > still very hypo. But the hypo ois no better or worse with or without > cortisll though without it probably feels alot worse. > > > I want to elaborate on Val's answer for . Only when hubby > added Isocort to support adrenals did his hypo really become > evident. I'd always suspected he was hypo, but with a TSH > 1, > figured there was no way I was going to get a doctor to treat him. > But once the cortisol was added, basically using up all his T3, whoa, > the depression (for no reason--typical symptom) hit like a bomb. > Just lays down and starts crying. What's wrong? I don't know. So > my answer is, yes, treating adrenals will make hypoT worse (or at > least more apparent). > > Barb > barb is right i feel im going thru the same thing since on cortef my hypo.is more noticeable then before it wasnt.but we still need to stabilize on our adrenal support before adding enough thyroid right barb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 > > > I want to elaborate on Val's answer for . Only when hubby > > added Isocort to support adrenals did his hypo really become > > evident. I'd always suspected he was hypo, but with a TSH > 1, > > figured there was no way I was going to get a doctor to treat him. > > But once the cortisol was added, basically using up all his T3, > whoa, > > the depression (for no reason--typical symptom) hit like a bomb. > > Just lays down and starts crying. What's wrong? I don't know. So > > my answer is, yes, treating adrenals will make hypoT worse (or at > > least more apparent). > > > > Barb > > > barb is right i feel im going thru the same thing since on cortef my > hypo.is more noticeable then before it wasnt.but we still need to > stabilize on our adrenal support before adding enough thyroid right > barb? > RIGHT! Do not add thyroid till temps stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Rose, You are an fatalist some of us are optimist others realist. However, most of us fight everyday to be happy and healthy. Have been sick 4 years and the last 9 months have rarely been able to leave the house. Nevertheless the world will not be a better place without my presence. Although my health is in the pits have a brain, a loving heart, am very talented, made a life with my computer making animated stationery, along with teaching others on the net how to animate graphics. Therefore contribute to this word just in a different way than before my health was compromised. That said am here to get well Rose you need to work really hard to have a good attitude in most health issues they have found those who expect to get well often do and those who do not, enough said. From: spore_frog Bring on bird flu, say I. Misery & grieving aside, the world will be a better place for those left afterwards. In the sense of fitness of the surviving gene pool, anyway. Jeez I'm in an odd mood tonight. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 You are right. The world is a better place with people like you in it....!! sandra Re: wired but tired Rose, You are an fatalist some of us are optimist others realist. However, most of us fight everyday to be happy and healthy. Have been sick 4 years and the last 9 months have rarely been able to leave the house. Nevertheless the world will not be a better place without my presence. Although my health is in the pits have a brain, a loving heart, am very talented, made a life with my computer making animated stationery, along with teaching others on the net how to animate graphics. Therefore contribute to this word just in a different way than before my health was compromised. That said am here to get well Rose you need to work really hard to have a good attitude in most health issues they have found those who expect to get well often do and those who do not, enough said. From: spore_frog Bring on bird flu, say I. Misery & grieving aside, the world will be a better place for those left afterwards. In the sense of fitness of the surviving gene pool, anyway. Jeez I'm in an odd mood tonight. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I am confused now I was told if one has low adrenals they MUST fix that slowly before trying to add any thyroid. a nancycollins63 wrote: > > > > >>Okay so I'll rephrase. When one is hypoT AND hypoA, does > treating just adrenals make hypoT worse or better?<< > > > > Neither! It will LOOK worse on the labs as when their is enough > cortisol the T3 can get into the cells so it will not all be floating > in the blood looking really pretty on blood tests whiel you are > still very hypo. But the hypo ois no better or worse with or without > cortisll though without it probably feels alot worse. > > > I want to elaborate on Val's answer for . Only when hubby > added Isocort to support adrenals did his hypo really become > evident. I'd always suspected he was hypo, but with a TSH > 1, > figured there was no way I was going to get a doctor to treat him. > But once the cortisol was added, basically using up all his T3, whoa, > the depression (for no reason--typical symptom) hit like a bomb. > Just lays down and starts crying. What's wrong? I don't know. So > my answer is, yes, treating adrenals will make hypoT worse (or at > least more apparent). > > Barb > barb is right i feel im going thru the same thing since on cortef my hypo.is more noticeable then before it wasnt.but we still need to stabilize on our adrenal support before adding enough thyroid right barb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Your statement is correct. Fix adrenals before adding thyroid. Maybe when I said " using up all his T3 " you thought I meant he was taking T3 pills. I meant his own natural T3 in his body. He has not started thyroid yet. We're still waiting for his temps to stabilize, hopefully this week. Barb > > > > > > >>Okay so I'll rephrase. When one is hypoT AND hypoA, does > > treating just adrenals make hypoT worse or better?<< > > > > > > Neither! It will LOOK worse on the labs as when their is enough > > cortisol the T3 can get into the cells so it will not all be > floating > > in the blood looking really pretty on blood tests whiel you are > > still very hypo. But the hypo ois no better or worse with or > without > > cortisll though without it probably feels alot worse. > > > > > I want to elaborate on Val's answer for . Only when hubby > > added Isocort to support adrenals did his hypo really become > > evident. I'd always suspected he was hypo, but with a TSH > 1, > > figured there was no way I was going to get a doctor to treat him. > > But once the cortisol was added, basically using up all his T3, > whoa, > > the depression (for no reason--typical symptom) hit like a bomb. > > Just lays down and starts crying. What's wrong? I don't know. So > > my answer is, yes, treating adrenals will make hypoT worse (or at > > least more apparent). > > > > Barb > > > barb is right i feel im going thru the same thing since on cortef my > hypo.is more noticeable then before it wasnt.but we still need to > stabilize on our adrenal support before adding enough thyroid right > barb? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 That is correct. That is what I am doing...upping my cortisol so I can then treat my adrenals. Cheri Re: Re: wired but tired I am confused now I was told if one has low adrenals they MUST fix that slowly before trying to add any thyroid. a . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 <<I do everything fast. I move very fast. I talk very fast. In fact, I have little tolerance for slowness and slow people and I finish their sentences and have no patience for anybody who moves and talks slow. I move my bowels the moment I wake up and then 2 times more. >> This describes me also (I drive everyone nuts with how fast I talk and walk, and I am filled with a family of slow walkers, which drives me nuts!). I too thought there was no way I was hypoT, but my labs showed I was. I think certain characteristics are personality traits that you are born with and have nothing necessarily to do with overall health. I have always walked and talked fast, wouldn't be able to walk any slower (have tried...can't do it!LOL) But, I think my low cortisol probably has to do with my " energy " , not enough to balance out the adrenaline pumping thru my system. I too can lose weight pretty quickly if I avoid carbs ( I am type O too, maybe that is it!). I can't say I have long beautiful nails though, they are brittle, but where I live it is very dry climate. I was not able to tolerate Armour at all. I switched to NatureThroid and have had better experience with it, still at low dose, but since being on adequate HC support for several months now, I am starting to be able to raise the thyroid meds slowly. Anyway, just my .02! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thanks a lot . That was very helpful. Re: wired but tired <<I do everything fast. I move very fast. I talk very fast. In fact, I have little tolerance for slowness and slow people and I finish their sentences and have no patience for anybody who moves and talks slow. I move my bowels the moment I wake up and then 2 times more. >> This describes me also (I drive everyone nuts with how fast I talk and walk, and I am filled with a family of slow walkers, which drives me nuts!). I too thought there was no way I was hypoT, but my labs showed I was. I think certain characteristics are personality traits that you are born with and have nothing necessarily to do with overall health. I have always walked and talked fast, wouldn't be able to walk any slower (have tried...can't do it!LOL) But, I think my low cortisol probably has to do with my " energy " , not enough to balance out the adrenaline pumping thru my system. I too can lose weight pretty quickly if I avoid carbs ( I am type O too, maybe that is it!). I can't say I have long beautiful nails though, they are brittle, but where I live it is very dry climate. I was not able to tolerate Armour at all. I switched to NatureThroid and have had better experience with it, still at low dose, but since being on adequate HC support for several months now, I am starting to be able to raise the thyroid meds slowly. Anyway, just my .02! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Hi Barb, Iam new, but trying real hard to get all this (= Once I get the results back from the salvia ,as well as the blood, just to see if anything is off in other areas such as the ferritin and B-12 I will post them and hopefully one of you can give me some feedback. The quandry I am in,which maybe some others are ,or where prior to this ,is that I am o n three medications for depression and anxiety. I am doing alot better than I have in prior years. I did have a big drop in my mood after I was on Pred. for 5 days at 50mgs and the Hc for a couple to wean down. This was due to the er thinking this was how to treat my symptoms. With that being said my temps can go up and down a bit from each of these medications.I will take my temps. but I just might have to wing it a bit. I think evenuatlly I wil be able to wean slowlly down with my pdoc on my meds. but with these I have been on for more than a year and it is imperative I am careful with any doseage change. Thanks, a Barb wrote: Your statement is correct. Fix adrenals before adding thyroid. Maybe when I said " using up all his T3 " you thought I meant he was taking T3 pills. I meant his own natural T3 in his body. He has not started thyroid yet. We're still waiting for his temps to stabilize, hopefully this week. Barb > > > > > > >>Okay so I'll rephrase. When one is hypoT AND hypoA, does > > treating just adrenals make hypoT worse or better?<< > > > > > > Neither! It will LOOK worse on the labs as when their is enough > > cortisol the T3 can get into the cells so it will not all be > floating > > in the blood looking really pretty on blood tests whiel you are > > still very hypo. But the hypo ois no better or worse with or > without > > cortisll though without it probably feels alot worse. > > > > > I want to elaborate on Val's answer for . Only when hubby > > added Isocort to support adrenals did his hypo really become > > evident. I'd always suspected he was hypo, but with a TSH > 1, > > figured there was no way I was going to get a doctor to treat him. > > But once the cortisol was added, basically using up all his T3, > whoa, > > the depression (for no reason--typical symptom) hit like a bomb. > > Just lays down and starts crying. What's wrong? I don't know. So > > my answer is, yes, treating adrenals will make hypoT worse (or at > > least more apparent). > > > > Barb > > > barb is right i feel im going thru the same thing since on cortef my > hypo.is more noticeable then before it wasnt.but we still need to > stabilize on our adrenal support before adding enough thyroid right > barb? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Barb, So is your husband taking HC and trying to get over the depression effects and then wil try the Armour or for his situation he will take a little of both to start so he does not have the depression hit him like that? Thanks, a Barb wrote: Your statement is correct. Fix adrenals before adding thyroid. Maybe when I said " using up all his T3 " you thought I meant he was taking T3 pills. I meant his own natural T3 in his body. He has not started thyroid yet. We're still waiting for his temps to stabilize, hopefully this week. Barb > > > > > > >>Okay so I'll rephrase. When one is hypoT AND hypoA, does > > treating just adrenals make hypoT worse or better?<< > > > > > > Neither! It will LOOK worse on the labs as when their is enough > > cortisol the T3 can get into the cells so it will not all be > floating > > in the blood looking really pretty on blood tests whiel you are > > still very hypo. But the hypo ois no better or worse with or > without > > cortisll though without it probably feels alot worse. > > > > > I want to elaborate on Val's answer for . Only when hubby > > added Isocort to support adrenals did his hypo really become > > evident. I'd always suspected he was hypo, but with a TSH > 1, > > figured there was no way I was going to get a doctor to treat him. > > But once the cortisol was added, basically using up all his T3, > whoa, > > the depression (for no reason--typical symptom) hit like a bomb. > > Just lays down and starts crying. What's wrong? I don't know. So > > my answer is, yes, treating adrenals will make hypoT worse (or at > > least more apparent). > > > > Barb > > > barb is right i feel im going thru the same thing since on cortef my > hypo.is more noticeable then before it wasnt.but we still need to > stabilize on our adrenal support before adding enough thyroid right > barb? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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