Re: Q Gel + Carnitine doses, forms and prices

[Guest guest]

Adam,

I would suggest you go to www.epic4health.com and click on the tabs on

the left side that say Q-Gel. It is a patented process like no other,

so just because something is in oil base, doesn't make it the same as

Q-Gel. It ends up being cheaper in the long run as it is more

absorbable. There is also a list somewhere on the website listing the

other brands it is sold under, BUT if the bottle doesn't say it is from

Tishcon, it isn't the same stuff. I know it is confusing. Here is the

link to Tishcon's site too.

http://www.tishcon.com/ This Q-Gel would be even cheaper than what you

are getting now. Q-Gel®

Forte (30mg of Hydrosoluble™ CoQ10)

3060 (60 Softgels)Regular price: $29.95Sale price:

$14.95 That is off of the

epic4health (Tishcon's distributor's site).

AdamM321@... wrote:

Hi,

Sorry to belabor the conversation about the Q Gel and Carnitine. For

now I am at the lower dose and will keep buying what I have now...the

30 mg dose...until I can increase it enough to buy it in the higher

dose.

But I am buying a Q Gel from NEEDS, a supplement distributor, which is

their own brand. They cost $22.98 for 60 caps of 30 mg. They don't

seem to offer a higher dose, so I am going shopping.

Also, I asked a local health food store for a different dose and they

suggested that the Q Gel is a patented process sold under a number of

different brands and is overpriced. He suggested I would get the same

result from a Co Q 10 in oil, which would be less expensive. I asked

him to price it, he said 60 caps of 100 mg was $49. So, for an equal

amount of what I am taking it would cost $76. I don't quite feel

comfortable to switch from Q Gel to CoQ 10 in oil just based on his

recommendation. Anyone else confronted this dilemma?

I also haven't gotten a prescription for the Q Gel from my doc,

although I did get one for the Carnitor. I usually buy supplements

from different supplement companies or the health food store and not

sure I trust the drugstore brands as much. Of course, I will get a

prescription and if the insurance company is paying, I should use it.

Has anyone else done this?

It is a little bit confusing.

Adam

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[Guest guest]

Adam,

I have never heard of the oil form. The health food store here that sells other brands but sells the Q-gel from Country Life says it is best.

I get the qgel paid for on the orphan drug program from my military insurance that is very picky. As soon as the doctor writes the letter for my son he will also. (I and his wife are working on him for this) It is on his desk to be signed Friday.

Anyway, I buy the qgel and then send in the receipt for paying my copay. The first time it was rejected but then I appealed and got it approved under orphan drug status. The next two times I sent in a copy of the appeal approval in with my invoice but got rejected so I had to appeal again. This last time they paid no problem.

The first and second time they took what I bought as being a 1 month supply and only reimbursed me based on that. I ordered 2 180 bottles of the carniqgel and told them it was a 3 month supply.

This last time I bought in qgel about equal to what my recommendation for a month is based on 125 mg twice a day. This time they did not charge me the $9 copay but $14.85. I am not sure where they came up with that number because it also does not equal our normal cost share of 25%

Anyway, see if your insurance covers orphan drugs.

Janet Sample

Q Gel + Carnitine doses, forms and prices

Hi,Sorry to belabor the conversation about the Q Gel and Carnitine. For now I am at the lower dose and will keep buying what I have now...the 30 mg dose...until I can increase it enough to buy it in the higher dose.But I am buying a Q Gel from NEEDS, a supplement distributor, which is their own brand. They cost $22.98 for 60 caps of 30 mg. They don't seem to offer a higher dose, so I am going shopping.Also, I asked a local health food store for a different dose and they suggested that the Q Gel is a patented process sold under a number of different brands and is overpriced. He suggested I would get the same result from a Co Q 10 in oil, which would be less expensive. I asked him to price it, he said 60 caps of 100 mg was $49. So, for an equal amount of what I am taking it would cost $76. I don't quite feel comfortable to switch from Q Gel to CoQ 10 in oil just based on his recommendation. Anyone else confronted this dilemma?I also haven't gotten a prescription for the Q Gel from my doc, although I did get one for the Carnitor. I usually buy supplements from different supplement companies or the health food store and not sure I trust the drugstore brands as much. Of course, I will get a prescription and if the insurance company is paying, I should use it. Has anyone else done this?It is a little bit confusing. Adam Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

[Guest guest]

Adam

I take the Q-gel and buy it from Tishcon in bottles of 1000. I get

reimbursed for a portion of it. I have extremely good insurance and Dr.

Shoffner sent them a letter and lot of articles on the benefits of CoQ10. It

was not specifically for Q-gel, but when I switched, my insurance continued

to pay a portion.

laurie

> From: AdamM321@...

> Reply-To:

> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:19:06 EST

> To:

> Subject: Q Gel + Carnitine doses, forms and prices

>

> Hi,

>

> Sorry to belabor the conversation about the Q Gel and Carnitine. For now I

> am at the lower dose and will keep buying what I have now...the 30 mg

> dose...until I can increase it enough to buy it in the higher dose.

>

> But I am buying a Q Gel from NEEDS, a supplement distributor, which is their

> own brand. They cost $22.98 for 60 caps of 30 mg. They don't seem to offer a

> higher dose, so I am going shopping.

>

> Also, I asked a local health food store for a different dose and they

> suggested that the Q Gel is a patented process sold under a number of

> different

> brands and is overpriced. He suggested I would get the same result from a Co

> Q 10

> in oil, which would be less expensive. I asked him to price it, he said 60

> caps of 100 mg was $49. So, for an equal amount of what I am taking it would

> cost $76. I don't quite feel comfortable to switch from Q Gel to CoQ 10 in

> oil

> just based on his recommendation. Anyone else confronted this dilemma?

>

> I also haven't gotten a prescription for the Q Gel from my doc, although I

> did get one for the Carnitor. I usually buy supplements from different

> supplement companies or the health food store and not sure I trust the

> drugstore

> brands as much. Of course, I will get a prescription and if the insurance

> company

> is paying, I should use it. Has anyone else done this?

>

> It is a little bit confusing.

>

> Adam

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you mention Dr Cohen and the mitochondrial pricing you also get a small price break. I don't know about the qgel alone as I just ordered it under that program and forgot what they told me, but the Carniqgel which is usually $67 is $62

Janet Sample

Re: Q Gel + Carnitine doses, forms and prices

Adam,I would suggest you go to www.epic4health.com and click on the tabs on the left side that say Q-Gel. It is a patented process like no other, so just because something is in oil base, doesn't make it the same as Q-Gel. It ends up being cheaper in the long run as it is more absorbable. There is also a list somewhere on the website listing the other brands it is sold under, BUT if the bottle doesn't say it is from Tishcon, it isn't the same stuff. I know it is confusing. Here is the link to Tishcon's site too.http://www.tishcon.com/ This Q-Gel would be even cheaper than what you are getting now. Q-Gel® Forte (30mg of Hydrosoluble™ CoQ10)3060 (60 Softgels)Regular price: $29.95Sale price: $14.95 That is off of the epic4health (Tishcon's distributor's site).AdamM321@... wrote:

Hi,Sorry to belabor the conversation about the Q Gel and Carnitine. For now I am at the lower dose and will keep buying what I have now...the 30 mg dose...until I can increase it enough to buy it in the higher dose.But I am buying a Q Gel from NEEDS, a supplement distributor, which is their own brand. They cost $22.98 for 60 caps of 30 mg. They don't seem to offer a higher dose, so I am going shopping.Also, I asked a local health food store for a different dose and they suggested that the Q Gel is a patented process sold under a number of different brands and is overpriced. He suggested I would get the same result from a Co Q 10 in oil, which would be less expensive. I asked him to price it, he said 60 caps of 100 mg was $49. So, for an equal amount of what I am taking it would cost $76. I don't quite feel comfortable to switch from Q Gel to CoQ 10 in oil just based on his recommendation. Anyone else confronted this dilemma?I also haven't gotten a prescription for the Q Gel from my doc, although I did get one for the Carnitor. I usually buy supplements from different supplement companies or the health food store and not sure I trust the drugstore brands as much. Of course, I will get a prescription and if the insurance company is paying, I should use it. Has anyone else done this?It is a little bit confusing. Adam Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.