organizational skills

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HI, my son is forgetting things in school (lunch bags, homework) at school.

He says his brain isn't letting him remember. I was very concerned, but

when I looked over his state test (terra nova) he was above average in language

and reading. I don't know if this is part of apraxia? Is anyone else

experiencing diffculty in remembering? He is 7 1/2 yrs old and still has

trouble

tying shoes, but he is a great reader. JOYA

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It could just be a boy thing. My son is much worse about remembering

things than my daughters. Actually, my apraxic daughter is the best

of remembering things.

You might want to write a reminder of things to check and place it

someonwhere. If he's forgetting things at school, maybe have the

teacher tape it on his desk.

Good luck!

> HI, my son is forgetting things in school (lunch bags, homework) at

school.

> He says his brain isn't letting him remember. I was very

concerned, but

> when I looked over his state test (terra nova) he was above average

in language

> and reading. I don't know if this is part of apraxia? Is anyone

else

> experiencing diffculty in remembering? He is 7 1/2 yrs old and

still has trouble

> tying shoes, but he is a great reader. JOYA

>

>

>

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I don't recall how old your son is, but our school uses a buddy system up

until the 5th grade. Each buddy checks their buddy's homework assignment

book and sees if their buddy's books and papers are in their bag to go

home.

Ask the teacher if a buddy can be assigned to your son.

Joanne

[ ] Re: organizational skills

> It could just be a boy thing. My son is much worse about remembering

> things than my daughters. Actually, my apraxic daughter is the best

> of remembering things.

>

> You might want to write a reminder of things to check and place it

> someonwhere. If he's forgetting things at school, maybe have the

> teacher tape it on his desk.

>

> Good luck!

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone who responded, I will use some of your ideas....

JOYA

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In a message dated 3/20/2007 3:58:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jrisjs@... writes:

Any tips you can share with us? I would like to see if I can help him

over the summer with this.

Thanks

Ide

My son also was very unorganized and still is at age 16, its part of the

diagnosis. He did receive help in those early years and now is better organized

actually much better organized at school and home now that he is an OLD MAN

LOL. What was done was he had two boxes in the room set up by his desk by the

autism coach. He had one la bled incoming work and then outgoing work. In the

beginning she would meet him in the classroom before school started just

about 10 minutes before the other kids were let into the room.And she and him

went though his book bag and took all of his homework or graded papers that

could stay at school or anything else like field trip forms and put them in his

in box. At the end of the day she came in before he left and any papers to

go home or worksheets or homework was taken from his out box and placed in his

book bag. He needed lots of prompting and help at first by the end of fifth

grade he was doing this on his own. What about getting help from the school

and putting this into his IEP.

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If he has been diagnosed, then they should know about the lack of ability to

organize and perhaps be coming up with ways to help him.

Do they " get " his diagnosis?

If he has a diagnosis and they don't know too much about it, bring in anything

you can to " teach " them.

There is an aide in the classroom that my son is in. She's there to help

whoever may be needing her at the time and my son's desk is pretty scary. They

do have " clean out the desk " time during the week, but he doesn't (can't) do it.

They accept it and sometimes the aide helps him. This is when I get all the

notes he's stashed. Ha ha.

Robin

haackia <haackia@...> wrote:

Hi,

My son is 9 and has a big problem organizing himself at school. We

get complaints all the time that he never stays on track or cannot

find his papers or books. I have to tell you that I have seen his

desk (acutally he has two side by side) and they are really messy. We

just went through our end of year ARD and they went on and on about

him needing to improve this before going to 4th grade.

Any tips you can share with us? I would like to see if I can help him

over the summer with this.

Thanks

Ide

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Using a color coded system can help. Math folder, notebook, and

bookcover is blue. Reading folder, notebook, and bookcover is red.

Also, have it put in his IEP that instead of criticizing him for

being disabled, the teachers should be calmly teaching him how to use

this or any system to organize much as they'd remediate a math lesson

for someone struggling with math. If he is struggling so intensively

(or they're so incompetent) that the teachers can't deal with it,

have him signed up for a Resource Room period, where the teacher

there can help him learn to organize, and can organize him each

day. This would have to go into the IEP.

Meira

> Hi,

> My son is 9 and has a big problem organizing himself at school. We

> get complaints all the time that he never stays on track or cannot

> find his papers or books. I have to tell you that I have seen his

> desk (acutally he has two side by side) and they are really messy.

We

> just went through our end of year ARD and they went on and on about

> him needing to improve this before going to 4th grade.

>

> Any tips you can share with us? I would like to see if I can help

him

> over the summer with this.

>

> Thanks

>

> Ide

>

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You might try color coding everything. For example, Math book covered

in blue, blue folder for math homework, blue spiral, etc. You could

cover the books in wrapping paper or use a marker to color them.

You mentioned ARD, what part of TX are you in? I'm in West TX, out near

Lubbock. In case you don't know about it, there is a great group

associated with

Tonya

( ) Organizational Skills

Hi,

My son is 9 and has a big problem organizing himself at school. We

get complaints all the time that he never stays on track or cannot

find his papers or books. I have to tell you that I have seen his

desk (acutally he has two side by side) and they are really messy. We

just went through our end of year ARD and they went on and on about

him needing to improve this before going to 4th grade.

Any tips you can share with us? I would like to see if I can help him

over the summer with this.

Thanks

Ide

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HI!

The only advice I may have is to relax as much as you can. It is a never ending

endeavor. My AS dd is 16, her papers are extremely messy but now she knows where

everything is. There was a time when I constantly worry and I got complaints

from her school at the time about homework (not doing it, forgetting books

everywhere, losing notebooks, etc.) It was a really bad time on all aspects,it

lasted for years I cannot have words to portrait the anguish we lived. She

continues to try to control her temper and is a constant battle but she has

reached such maturity level that any adult would love to have. I really admire

her reasoning skills. She is a HS Jr. and a so called " genius " . I may say that

she is the typical Aspergers. No special education or plan, the plan that her

old public school had for her was not beneficial for her and we decided to pull

her out of the public school system. She attends a small private school now and

she has followed the plan that GOD has for her. (her own words). I am always on

alert, and I have to be careful with the words I use when I talk to her. I guess

that I must accept my special daughter just the way she is and continue to be

amazed by her mind and spirit.

Ana

( ) Organizational Skills

Hi,

My son is 9 and has a big problem organizing himself at school. We

get complaints all the time that he never stays on track or cannot

find his papers or books. I have to tell you that I have seen his

desk (acutally he has two side by side) and they are really messy. We

just went through our end of year ARD and they went on and on about

him needing to improve this before going to 4th grade.

Any tips you can share with us? I would like to see if I can help him

over the summer with this.

Thanks

Ide

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Hi Ide,

Your comment " never stays on track " - he probably needs prompts to

stay on task (if I understood the comment) or keep him " on track. "

As to the messy desk - well, that *can* be due to the Aspergers of

course, but just wanted to throw in that my oldest son (not a bit on

the spectrum) had *the* messiest desk in his class at least one

year. He's now 22. I can't make any excuses for him, it was just

messy, I saw it and would comment to him about it. He did seem to

keep his work together and get it handed in though. He actually got

the vote for " messiest desk " in 5th grade.

Now my Aspie (now age 18) - I just told the middle school NOT to

expect him to be organized. Told them I had been trying to get him

organized since elementary school, just don't expect it to happen. I

tried separate pocket folders for each subject (different colors),

notebooks each subject, etc., etc. No, he just stuck his work

anywhere, in his books, crammed down in his backpack, hardly ever in

the folders or wherever I had come up with for work to go. I would

go thru them about every night to organize and to put what needed to

be turned in at the front of each folder with instructions to " turn

it in! " I also told the teachers that the work was usually done,

they needed to ask him for it and wait until he got it (or found it)

if it hadn't been turned in.

Kids sometimes do better for others than for " mom & dad. " The

teachers might be willing to take a bit of time one day each week to

help him/show him how to organize his work (and to have him look for

missing work). Also - what is the routine for turning in work? Is

there a place to put it at the start of class, do they check it in

class & pass it up...? He might not be *into* the routine yet. My

son needed to know what was expected also, needed that knowledge &

routine and don't switch it on him. Still, he did miss turning in a

few things. In middle school we would get an interim report (all

kids got it) and it would show grades and any missing work would be

listed. That helped a lot!

So far as his teachers commenting about being ready for 4th grade,

well this can just be a goal to work on, ongoing. This " weak " area

of his can be discussed and written into his IEP/504 Plan (whichever

he has).

Anyway, to give you a bit of hope: high school. My son got

organized! I don't know how or why, but suddenly he kept things

straight and neat, each notebook for his classes had the work where

it should be!

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 9 and has a big problem organizing himself at school. We

> get complaints all the time that he never stays on track or cannot

> find his papers or books. I have to tell you that I have seen his

> desk (acutally he has two side by side) and they are really messy.

[Guest guest]

My son, 14, is the same way. The locker is a mess...in fact, I don't think he

uses it except to store things. His binder is a disaster...can't find anything.

I tried organizing as well with different color folders..one folder for all

homework to turn in the next day...the principal suggested this as well as

having his teachers sign his planner every day and me signing in every

night...but he can't remember to do it...he does his work and loses it...forgets

to turn it in...forgets to finish it...but always claims he got it done...never

brings homework home...says he did it in class...nothing is ever

clean...organized...etc...and I can't get him to remember anything 5 minutes

after I tell him...he has not yet been diagnosed Aspergers but we go for an

evaluation on Monday...the school refused an IEP when I asked for one for

ADHD...they said he did not need help...only needed to pay more attention...my

worry is that he can't...simply can't...and they won't help...he goes to

high school next year and I worry that he won't graduate...now they are sending

me a letter telling me he is in danger of failing science...DUH...I have been

telling you this for months...and they want me to pay for summer school...I

don't think so...we shall see I guess...

So...you are not alone...unorganization runs rampant in my house too...

Tami

<@...> wrote: Hi

Ide,

Your comment " never stays on track " - he probably needs prompts to

stay on task (if I understood the comment) or keep him " on track. "

As to the messy desk - well, that *can* be due to the Aspergers of

course, but just wanted to throw in that my oldest son (not a bit on

the spectrum) had *the* messiest desk in his class at least one

year. He's now 22. I can't make any excuses for him, it was just

messy, I saw it and would comment to him about it. He did seem to

keep his work together and get it handed in though. He actually got

the vote for " messiest desk " in 5th grade.

Now my Aspie (now age 18) - I just told the middle school NOT to

expect him to be organized. Told them I had been trying to get him

organized since elementary school, just don't expect it to happen. I

tried separate pocket folders for each subject (different colors),

notebooks each subject, etc., etc. No, he just stuck his work

anywhere, in his books, crammed down in his backpack, hardly ever in

the folders or wherever I had come up with for work to go. I would

go thru them about every night to organize and to put what needed to

be turned in at the front of each folder with instructions to " turn

it in! " I also told the teachers that the work was usually done,

they needed to ask him for it and wait until he got it (or found it)

if it hadn't been turned in.

Kids sometimes do better for others than for " mom & dad. " The

teachers might be willing to take a bit of time one day each week to

help him/show him how to organize his work (and to have him look for

missing work). Also - what is the routine for turning in work? Is

there a place to put it at the start of class, do they check it in

class & pass it up...? He might not be *into* the routine yet. My

son needed to know what was expected also, needed that knowledge &

routine and don't switch it on him. Still, he did miss turning in a

few things. In middle school we would get an interim report (all

kids got it) and it would show grades and any missing work would be

listed. That helped a lot!

So far as his teachers commenting about being ready for 4th grade,

well this can just be a goal to work on, ongoing. This " weak " area

of his can be discussed and written into his IEP/504 Plan (whichever

he has).

Anyway, to give you a bit of hope: high school. My son got

organized! I don't know how or why, but suddenly he kept things

straight and neat, each notebook for his classes had the work where

it should be!

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 9 and has a big problem organizing himself at school. We

> get complaints all the time that he never stays on track or cannot

> find his papers or books. I have to tell you that I have seen his

> desk (acutally he has two side by side) and they are really messy.

Tami

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Ah... the truth comes out. Summer School is free if he has an IEP.

It's all about money with these people.

Meira

>

> My son, 14, is the same way. The locker is a mess...in fact, I

don't think he uses it except to store things. His binder is a

disaster...can't find anything. I tried organizing as well with

different color folders..one folder for all homework to turn in the

next day...the principal suggested this as well as having his

teachers sign his planner every day and me signing in every

night...but he can't remember to do it...he does his work and loses

it...forgets to turn it in...forgets to finish it...but always claims

he got it done...never brings homework home...says he did it in

class...nothing is ever clean...organized...etc...and I can't get him

to remember anything 5 minutes after I tell him...he has not yet been

diagnosed Aspergers but we go for an evaluation on Monday...the

school refused an IEP when I asked for one for ADHD...they said he

did not need help...only needed to pay more attention...my worry is

that he can't...simply can't...and they won't help...he goes to

> high school next year and I worry that he won't graduate...now

they are sending me a letter telling me he is in danger of failing

science...DUH...I have been telling you this for months...and they

want me to pay for summer school...I don't think so...we shall see I

guess...

>

> So...you are not alone...unorganization runs rampant in my house

too...

>

> Tami

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I guess I am going to have to look into it a little more...

Would it be worth it now to try to get them to test him? I just learned from

another group that I needed to put my request in writing but I did not do that

the first time around...if I request it now, they are going to put me off

telling me that it is almost the end of the year...this is what they did when I

requested a meeting in 6th grade as well...then nothing ever came of it every

time I asked...

Should I ask now or wait until high school? I can put in a call to the high

school principal to get his opinion and I also have a name at the school board

to call...any idea which is my best course of action first?

Thanks for the information...I had no idea summer school was free with an IEP

Tami

meiraharvey <meira-harvey@...> wrote:

Ah... the truth comes out. Summer School is free if he has an IEP.

It's all about money with these people.

Meira

>

> My son, 14, is the same way. The locker is a mess...in fact, I

don't think he uses it except to store things. His binder is a

disaster...can't find anything. I tried organizing as well with

different color folders..one folder for all homework to turn in the

next day...the principal suggested this as well as having his

teachers sign his planner every day and me signing in every

night...but he can't remember to do it...he does his work and loses

it...forgets to turn it in...forgets to finish it...but always claims

he got it done...never brings homework home...says he did it in

class...nothing is ever clean...organized...etc...and I can't get him

to remember anything 5 minutes after I tell him...he has not yet been

diagnosed Aspergers but we go for an evaluation on Monday...the

school refused an IEP when I asked for one for ADHD...they said he

did not need help...only needed to pay more attention...my worry is

that he can't...simply can't...and they won't help...he goes to

> high school next year and I worry that he won't graduate...now

they are sending me a letter telling me he is in danger of failing

science...DUH...I have been telling you this for months...and they

want me to pay for summer school...I don't think so...we shall see I

guess...

>

> So...you are not alone...unorganization runs rampant in my house

too...

>

> Tami

Tami

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Put it in writing requesting it now. They have (45?) school days to

comply. Which might mean next year at this point, I'm too fried to

count right now. Request multi-disciplinary testing. Send it to the

schoo, the district, the director of special ed, your congresspeople.

Outline the issues, what they've been telling you, that you now are

working with a Parent's Advocacy Group (umm...us) and that you expect

them to fulfill their legal obligations to your son.

The free summer school program is called ESY: Extended School Year.

Meira

> >

> > My son, 14, is the same way. The locker is a mess...in fact, I

> don't think he uses it except to store things. His binder is a

> disaster...can't find anything. I tried organizing as well with

> different color folders..one folder for all homework to turn in

the

> next day...the principal suggested this as well as having his

> teachers sign his planner every day and me signing in every

> night...but he can't remember to do it...he does his work and

loses

> it...forgets to turn it in...forgets to finish it...but always

claims

> he got it done...never brings homework home...says he did it in

> class...nothing is ever clean...organized...etc...and I can't get

him

> to remember anything 5 minutes after I tell him...he has not yet

been

> diagnosed Aspergers but we go for an evaluation on Monday...the

> school refused an IEP when I asked for one for ADHD...they said he

> did not need help...only needed to pay more attention...my worry

is

> that he can't...simply can't...and they won't help...he goes to

> > high school next year and I worry that he won't graduate...now

> they are sending me a letter telling me he is in danger of failing

> science...DUH...I have been telling you this for months...and they

> want me to pay for summer school...I don't think so...we shall see

I

> guess...

> >

> > So...you are not alone...unorganization runs rampant in my house

> too...

> >

> > Tami

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Tami

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you...I will do it this week!

meiraharvey <meira-harvey@...> wrote:

Put it in writing requesting it now. They have (45?) school days to

comply. Which might mean next year at this point, I'm too fried to

count right now. Request multi-disciplinary testing. Send it to the

schoo, the district, the director of special ed, your congresspeople.

Outline the issues, what they've been telling you, that you now are

working with a Parent's Advocacy Group (umm...us) and that you expect

them to fulfill their legal obligations to your son.

The free summer school program is called ESY: Extended School Year.

Meira

> >

> > My son, 14, is the same way. The locker is a mess...in fact, I

> don't think he uses it except to store things. His binder is a

> disaster...can't find anything. I tried organizing as well with

> different color folders..one folder for all homework to turn in

the

> next day...the principal suggested this as well as having his

> teachers sign his planner every day and me signing in every

> night...but he can't remember to do it...he does his work and

loses

> it...forgets to turn it in...forgets to finish it...but always

claims

> he got it done...never brings homework home...says he did it in

> class...nothing is ever clean...organized...etc...and I can't get

him

> to remember anything 5 minutes after I tell him...he has not yet

been

> diagnosed Aspergers but we go for an evaluation on Monday...the

> school refused an IEP when I asked for one for ADHD...they said he

> did not need help...only needed to pay more attention...my worry

is

> that he can't...simply can't...and they won't help...he goes to

> > high school next year and I worry that he won't graduate...now

> they are sending me a letter telling me he is in danger of failing

> science...DUH...I have been telling you this for months...and they

> want me to pay for summer school...I don't think so...we shall see

I

> guess...

> >

> > So...you are not alone...unorganization runs rampant in my house

> too...

> >

> > Tami

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Tami

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

>

>

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Summer school for special needs kids is called " extended year " here. If you

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In a message dated 4/8/2007 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

meira-harvey@... writes:

Ah... the truth comes out. Summer School is free if he has an IEP.

It's all about money with these people.

Meira

It is free if the child is eligible. ESY has strict guidelines. Pam

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Todd,

He has an appointment this afternoon with a new psychiatrsit. I am working on

a diagnosis of Asperger's...he has also been previously diagnosed ADHD, ODD, and

Generalized Anxiety Disorder

I am going to put my request in writing next week when they go back to school

from Spring Break...and I am going to send it to everyone...the middle school,

the high school, the counselor, the psychologist, the school board, etc...thanks

for the input

Tami

Todd Kotler <TBKotler@...> wrote:

If they put you off by saying its the end of the year, reply that it

is

NEVER a good time for them. Then ask that if they are refusing, to do to

please put their refusal in writng whith their specific reasons why. Then

gear up for due process.

Does your son have any other DX aside from ADHD?

Very truly yours;

Todd B. Kotler

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Re: ( ) Re: Organizational Skills

I guess I am going to have to look into it a little more...

Would it be worth it now to try to get them to test him? I just learned

from another group that I needed to put my request in writing but I did not

do that the first time around...if I request it now, they are going to put

me off telling me that it is almost the end of the year...this is what they

did when I requested a meeting in 6th grade as well...then nothing ever came

of it every time I asked...

Should I ask now or wait until high school? I can put in a call to the

high school principal to get his opinion and I also have a name at the

school board to call...any idea which is my best course of action first?

Thanks for the information...I had no idea summer school was free with an

IEP

Tami

meiraharvey <meira-harvey@...> wrote: Ah... the truth comes

out. Summer School is free if he has an IEP.

It's all about money with these people.

Meira

>

> My son, 14, is the same way. The locker is a mess...in fact, I

don't think he uses it except to store things. His binder is a

disaster...can't find anything. I tried organizing as well with

different color folders..one folder for all homework to turn in the

next day...the principal suggested this as well as having his

teachers sign his planner every day and me signing in every

night...but he can't remember to do it...he does his work and loses

it...forgets to turn it in...forgets to finish it...but always claims

he got it done...never brings homework home...says he did it in

class...nothing is ever clean...organized...etc...and I can't get him

to remember anything 5 minutes after I tell him...he has not yet been

diagnosed Aspergers but we go for an evaluation on Monday...the

school refused an IEP when I asked for one for ADHD...they said he

did not need help...only needed to pay more attention...my worry is

that he can't...simply can't...and they won't help...he goes to

> high school next year and I worry that he won't graduate...now

they are sending me a letter telling me he is in danger of failing

science...DUH...I have been telling you this for months...and they

want me to pay for summer school...I don't think so...we shall see I

guess...

>

> So...you are not alone...unorganization runs rampant in my house

too...

>

> Tami

Tami

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All you've got to do is find out what those guidelines are and tell

them exactly why your child DOES meet them.

Meira

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> In a message dated 4/8/2007 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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> Ah... the truth comes out. Summer School is free if he has an IEP.

> It's all about money with these people.

> Meira

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> It is free if the child is eligible. ESY has strict guidelines.

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On Dec 6, 3:08pm, ppanda65@... wrote:

} meira-harvey@... writes:

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} Ah... the truth comes out. Summer School is free if he has an IEP.

} It's all about money with these people.

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} It is free if the child is eligible. ESY has strict guidelines. Pam

They only offered three weeks for my son AND it was such a nightmare

we pulled him out after three days. They lumped all the special ed

kids together into one room, basically. The aides were really nasty.

Not to say it's always that bad, just that we had a lousy experience.

Willa

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Oh, that's horrible! My daughter's school has a 5 week ESY program.

It's basically school as they have during the regular year, with

shortened days, just continued through the summer, with swimming at a

local pool added in.

Meira

> } meira-harvey@... writes:

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> } Ah... the truth comes out. Summer School is free if he has an

IEP.

> } It's all about money with these people.

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> } It is free if the child is eligible. ESY has strict guidelines.

Pam

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> They only offered three weeks for my son AND it was such a nightmare

> we pulled him out after three days. They lumped all the special ed

> kids together into one room, basically. The aides were really

nasty.

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> Not to say it's always that bad, just that we had a lousy

experience.

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> Willa

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From: Roxanna

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Organizational Skills

I wish it were that simple. Many kids are denied ESY and convincing an IEP team that a child does require ESY can be as difficult as getting any other service provided for your child when the "team" doesn't agree with you. I would definitely document your reasons, take data and be prepared at the meeting in which you request ESY. Do not assume it is handed out to all kids with an IEP. Most schools are watching the bottom dollar and ESY costs money. Like everything else, you need to prove the need. And this can be difficult for higher functioning kids to qualify.

Roxanna

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All you've got to do is find out what those guidelines are and tell them exactly why your child DOES meet them.Meira>> > In a message dated 4/8/2007 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > meira-harvey@... writes:> > Ah... the truth comes out. Summer School is free if he has an IEP. > It's all about money with these people.> Meira> > It is free if the child is eligible. ESY has strict guidelines. Pam > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.> > >

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I'm not bragging here but I must really have an awesome school system. :-) When my son got his AS dx through the school, they offered me so much at the ARD. They volunteered that he could go to summer school (is this ESY?) or the summer program for kids with Autism. He is mild AS and has ADHD. But they just keep offering to help all the time & I never have to ask! It makes me sad to hear about parents who struggle & beg for basic things......It's not fair. LizRoxanna <madideas@...> wrote: From: Roxanna Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Organizational Skills I wish it were that simple. Many kids are denied ESY and

convincing an IEP team that a child does require ESY can be as difficult as getting any other service provided for your child when the "team" doesn't agree with you. I would definitely document your reasons, take data and be prepared at the meeting in which you request ESY. Do not assume it is handed out to all kids with an IEP. Most schools are watching the bottom dollar and ESY costs money. Like everything else, you need to prove the need. And this can be difficult for higher functioning kids to qualify. Roxanna ( ) Re: Organizational Skills All you've got to do is find out what those guidelines are and tell them exactly why your child DOES meet them.Meira>> > In a message dated 4/8/2007 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > meira-harvey@... writes:> > Ah... the truth comes out. Summer School is free if he has an IEP. > It's all about money with these people.> Meira> > It is free if the child is eligible. ESY has strict guidelines. Pam

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