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I know exactly what you mean ! My doctor doesn't take me seriously when I tell him my resting heart rate is always 90 or above! It goes really fast when I am working out! I feel like passing out!

Motts!

I just took my pulse and sitting it was 90. I counted for 10 seconds and multiplied it by six. In my sixty second counts, I usually get around 80-83, so I'm pretty sure it's accurate. My pulse has always been slightly high. Is this a bad thing?

Thoughts?

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I do occasionally have palpitations, but I don't know if it's from a reaction (allergic) or what not... since using the inhaler, it doesn't happen as much... weird huh? My pulse rate has always been from the 70s to 90s... *shrug*. My blood pressure is always 120/80 or 70. So I really have no clue what the hell is wrong with me lol. Maybe we can hold a raffle and the person who wins gets a big stuffed banana or something LOL.

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I know exactly what you mean ! My doctor doesn't take me seriously when I tell him my resting heart rate is always 90 or above! It goes really fast when I am working out! I feel like passing out!

Motts!

I just took my pulse and sitting it was 90. I counted for 10 seconds and multiplied it by six. In my sixty second counts, I usually get around 80-83, so I'm pretty sure it's accurate. My pulse has always been slightly high. Is this a bad thing?

Thoughts?

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it turned out great... turkey bacon, crossionts (sp) and eggs... with lemonade.. he loved it! now he says he'll have to think of something to do for me lol. my pulse rate i think i'll just have to accept that it isn't normal. i do get a bit of chest pains every now and then and they always scare me. ever since i had what i thought was a heart attack a few years ago. i didn't tell my doc about it because it scared me... it's possible it was just angina but i really wonder if i did have a heart attack. those nurses... i've had some of those to. squirly they are you know.

a.

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,Not sure if this helps but I've always had a fast pulse rate. 80 or 90 is totally expected for me. The same nurse who was telling me how great it was that my temperature was 97.something also mis-counted my pulse that day. She goes, "72 - that's good." And my head whipped around and I said, "Are you SURE? I haven't been 72 in ages. I'm usually much faster." She took it again and viola! .... 80 something. I think they want so badly for the patient to be normal that they don't bother to count sometimes. If I get sick, like virus sick not just regular symptoms sick, then I have been known to spike up to 100. Years ago when I had pleurisy (sp?) the doc didn't care that i couldnt down fluids, couldn't eat and that my pulse was racing at 120 and I thought I was going to be flung out of my own body through my chest!Point is, my pulse has alwasy been weird all my life.Hope your breakfast surprise turns out great!-Lynn Teague wrote:> yes, I have asthma from allergies and exercise induced asthma. I also > forgot to mention.. 2 puffs, twice a day... no shakes this morning on > day 2 of the inhaler. Thoughts?? I'd really like some help figuring > this out... and you know what I'm going to do... I'm going to the store > to surprise with breakfast in bed! I haven't cooked breakfast in > years in the morning.... yay life!!> > > > oh, and raffle tickets will be 1 shiny orange a piece lol *opens sack > adds first orange* lol

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Dip that orange in chocolate???

Good for you... ambition and desire to cook breakfast... what a treat for hubby... and you know what.. a pretty good treat for you too, to be feeling that good.... Now, , don't over do it just cuz your morning started good.. pace yourself and see if tomorrow is a good one too!!!

Topper () *who has drool soaking shirt front at the thought of a chocolate dipped orange wedge... slurrrpppp*

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:16:00 -0500 " Teague" writes:

yes, I have asthma from allergies and exercise induced asthma. I also forgot to mention.. 2 puffs, twice a day... no shakes this morning on day 2 of the inhaler. Thoughts?? I'd really like some help figuring this out... and you know what I'm going to do... I'm going to the store to surprise with breakfast in bed! I haven't cooked breakfast in years in the morning.... yay life!!

oh, and raffle tickets will be 1 shiny orange a piece lol *opens sack adds first orange* lol

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Low pulse rate, unless you are an athlete, says that your metabolic rate is low. If the metabolism is low our hearts beat slower, blood gets moved around slower, we tire more easily, it's harder to keep fingers and toes warm, it's harder to think....

You can have a quicker heart beat too while having a lower metabolic rate.. that can sometimes mean that the heart is weaker and can't pump as much with each beat... so it has to beat faster to keep enough blood moving through your body....

So many little variables.. that's why some docs don't want to deal with us.. they don't want to look at the individual and 'customize' the treatment for that person.. the know that it will take years for us to die from poor treatment and chances are you won't still be seeing them when that time comes....

My heart beat was all the way down to 50 at my worst... .now it's back up to a happy 70 - 72 at rest... and kicks up when I'm active.. and comes back down to normal within that 15 to 20 minutes that it should... not at all like before.... I'd shoot up over a hundred from doing dishes and then take a half a day for it to drop back down to fifty... My poor broken body.....

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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:30:01 -0600 jytdtp writes:

Does anyone know what it means if your pulse is lower, mine is usually about65 when resting though it goes up at the doctor to about 80 cuz I get nervous.At home it’s 62 to 68 .Sue

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I am not an athlete by ANY standards LOL! I have been working out a lot though

And noticed my pulse and blood pressure have been going down.

I was at 140/90 range and am now in the 120/80 range and my pulse has gone down as well.

Could be exercise or progression of Thyroid disease? Not sure... It’s too soon for me to tell.

I am hoping it’s the eating right and exercising more...

Sue

Low pulse rate, unless you are an athlete, says that your metabolic rate is low. If the metabolism is low our hearts beat slower, blood gets moved around slower, we tire more easily, it's harder to keep fingers and toes warm, it's harder to think....

You can have a quicker heart beat too while having a lower metabolic rate.. that can sometimes mean that the heart is weaker and can't pump as much with each beat... so it has to beat faster to keep enough blood moving through your body....

So many little variables.. that's why some docs don't want to deal with us.. they don't want to look at the individual and 'customize' the treatment for that person.. the know that it will take years for us to die from poor treatment and chances are you won't still be seeing them when that time comes....

My heart beat was all the way down to 50 at my worst... .now it's back up to a happy 70 - 72 at rest... and kicks up when I'm active.. and comes back down to normal within that 15 to 20 minutes that it should... not at all like before.... I'd shoot up over a hundred from doing dishes and then take a half a day for it to drop back down to fifty... My poor broken body.....

Topper ()

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:30:01 -0600 jytdtp writes:

Does anyone know what it means if your pulse is lower, mine is usually about

65 when resting though it goes up at the doctor to about 80 cuz I get nervous.

At home it’s 62 to 68 .

Sue

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That makes sense. This past week since I added the T3 I just haven’t felt like exercising at all...i was expecting this huge burst of energy but really I feel more “relaxed” and even downright lazy~ I really am not used to feeling warm; warm makes me sleepy where as cold revs me up -- I am guessing my body is wondering what the heck is going on with me not over-pushing myself this past week and it’s feeling some type of “crash” from the lack of activity? Mentally, I feel super alert and awake and not at all groggy or irritated even through my last PMS cycle which coincided with me starting the T3 so that was a nice surprise.

I always feel I am slacking off if I don’t push myself past my limits— no idea where I developed those “standards” -- !

Sue

Just be careful with the exercise and don't push up to the limit too often... If you over do it the recovery time, until your hormone levels are optimized, can be enough to throw you off your routine and make you have to back step... consider your body to always be in gentle training so that it's always a positive growth/improvement thing and not a recovery thing...

.... gosh.. I hope I'm making sense! hehehe

Topper ()

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:57:08 -0600 jytdtp writes:

I am not an athlete by ANY standards LOL! I have been working out a lot though

And noticed my pulse and blood pressure have been going down.

I was at 140/90 range and am now in the 120/80 range and my pulse has gone down as well.

Could be exercise or progression of Thyroid disease? Not sure... It’s too soon for me to tell.

I am hoping it’s the eating right and exercising more...

Sue

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Thanks, , I just loaded up on B vitamins and a multi. What is adrenal support?

Does that come from the thyroid?

sue

yup... make sure you're taking b complex and a good mulitvitamin... that will work wonders until you get adrenal support.

andrea.

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You got it exactly right, I have not felt like doing anything this week...not sluggish, just not in the mood... Also feeling warm really makes me lazy/tired/somethng(?)

Sue

On 3/12/06 7:18 PM, " Teague " wrote:

you probably won't feel like doing anything.. your adrenals are probably in a F**k it mood... that's what I call it, inbetween dosages lol. my exercise used to be when I would grocery shop... I wouldn't go to buy, just to walk around and exercise.

a.

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sort of... but not really. adrenal glands are located on top of your kidneys and are part of your endocrine system just like your thyroid gland. they both help regulate each other and if one is off, the other will be to.

you get a lot of the same symptoms for thyroid problems as adrenal problems. you can have your doctor check these by checking your cortisol and dhea levels. mine show up in the normal ranges on both but i still feel like i need adrenal support.

i think the website is adrenalfatigue.org or .com... you can look there and get the basics of it.

andrea

Re: ummm.... You got it exactly right, I have not felt like doing anything this week...not sluggish, just not in the mood... Also feeling warm really makes me lazy/tired/somethng(?)SueOn 3/12/06 7:18 PM, " Teague" wrote:

you probably won't feel like doing anything.. your adrenals are probably in a F**k it mood... that's what I call it, inbetween dosages lol. my exercise used to be when I would grocery shop... I wouldn't go to buy, just to walk around and exercise.a.

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Sue

The way you are describing yourself is the way I USED to be, but thyroid, life events, and learning to slow down and "smell the roses and look at the blades of grass" taught me something different. It's the verse that goes "Be still and know that I AM God" (His words not mine), and then in my words "I'M not God, I'm human", and then there is that song that goes "I'm in a hurry to get things done, I rush and rush until life's no fun. All I really gotta do is live and die, but I'm in a hurry and don't know why." Now, of course, there are things that we need, want to accomplish in this life, and we can't be ostriches, burying our heads alternately in the clouds and the sand, buuutttt.........Life really does become no fun when we're CONstantly striving and don't make time to enjoy, something like a child does with life. When I was hyper, all of life and all it's activities "haunted" me all the time, and it was as though I had this constant tension. Yes, I ran 5 miles or so a day, and it did feel good, but it was out of sheer nerves and brain chemistry, along with this weird haunting frustration. It's unbelieveable, but hypo HAS taught me something invaluable, even with it's misery. I want to live and enjoy life. I sleep something like 10 to 15 hrs, IF I feel the need to, and to heck with the rest. I know I wouldn't be doing that when there's a major family crisis, but for ordinary circumstances, I don't let the phone bug me or anyone else, because I know that I'm going to feel more like handling all that if I've had proper sleep, rest, and R & R. That way, I can also enjoy my day more and handle my job with ease. I used to LOVE the cold weather. Since being hypo, my body doesn't seem to enjoy EITHER extreme of cold, heat, and humidity or even extremely dry air.

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Yep, I have always had tons of energy when cold and lazy days when hot – I now live in Texas after being born and raised in the state of NY and living in Chicago 6 years as well.I am used to keeping on like the Energizer rabbit and only slow down when I am either hot or “crash.”I AM feeling more hungry... And I know what you mean about listening to my body — if I can only get my mind to co-operate — I have found that 24 has never been an adequate amount of hours in any day! There are days when I want to exercise AFTER I exercise and others when 30 minutes seems like hours... I know I am not a slacker so yep, I will try to quit pushing myself against what I obviously need... Rest when tired and move when energized...it’s sounds so simple yet it’s so hard for me – maybe this is why most docs want us on antidepressants to numb the aggravation we feel instead of getting to the root of the actual ailment(s) -- it seems that way!sue

Your body has a lot of adjustments to make if it's been starved for the T3 and is getting it now... more energy will be going to raise body temp, increase heart rate, increase organ activity.. you're already experiencing the increased brain activity... Some of the adjustments will make you feel more tired as your body shifts stuff around... you might be feeling more hungry as energy requirements shift.... Watch your body, it will give you clues as to what it needs you to do.... If you're not feeling like exercising.. do gentle stretching to keep the muscles limber and blood flow to them good.... Your comment about the cold making you more reved up.. part of that could be your body wanting the extra physical activity to increase body temp.. muscles in movement produce heat which will help bring up core temp.. Core temp is the temp of your body organs... and brain... Don't get the guilts for 'slacking off' you have a body that is relearning itself and you get to learn from it as it figures stuff out... pay attention..

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exactly.

andrea

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Yep, I have always had tons of energy when cold and lazy days when hot – I now live in Texas after being born and raised in the state of NY and living in Chicago 6 years as well.I am used to keeping on like the Energizer rabbit and only slow down when I am either hot or “crash.”I AM feeling more hungry... And I know what you mean about listening to my body — if I can only get my mind to co-operate — I have found that 24 has never been an adequate amount of hours in any day! There are days when I want to exercise AFTER I exercise and others when 30 minutes seems like hours... I know I am not a slacker so yep, I will try to quit pushing myself against what I obviously need... Rest when tired and move when energized...it’s sounds so simple yet it’s so hard for me – maybe this is why most docs want us on antidepressants to numb the aggravation we feel instead of getting to the root of the actual ailment(s) -- it seems that way!sue

Your body has a lot of adjustments to make if it's been starved for the T3 and is getting it now... more energy will be going to raise body temp, increase heart rate, increase organ activity.. you're already experiencing the increased brain activity... Some of the adjustments will make you feel more tired as your body shifts stuff around... you might be feeling more hungry as energy requirements shift.... Watch your body, it will give you clues as to what it needs you to do.... If you're not feeling like exercising.. do gentle stretching to keep the muscles limber and blood flow to them good.... Your comment about the cold making you more reved up.. part of that could be your body wanting the extra physical activity to increase body temp.. muscles in movement produce heat which will help bring up core temp.. Core temp is the temp of your body organs... and brain... Don't get the guilts for 'slacking off' you have a body that is relearning itself and you get to learn from it as it figures stuff out... pay attention..

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Milder asthma attacks, that come on gradually, more subtly, can sometimes cause more confusion for an asthma patient than an out and out full blown status attack (yikes, did I say that? status can cause death, so, of course, that's worse!). The thing is that an asthmatic gets so used to constantly having the smaller attacks, that we don't seem to notice it's happening until "later", when we're even more uncomfortable. The smaller more constantly attacks bring on an oxygen deprivation in the lungs over a longer period of time, and what does that do? Causes the heart to beat faster to get more oxygen, even though the heart beat may not be into the palpitation state yet. A heart rate that is usually more constantly over 80 is that way for some reason, as in this is not normal. The heart is working harder to get oxygen, but, there are other states also where it beats faster. One of these is a too-low blood volume, as in there isn't enough blood actually for the heart to pump, going around the body, so the heart is more "off kilter, so to speak. People with adrenal fatigue are well known to have a lower blood volume, and I think that's ONE reason for the salt craving, the body's natural instinct to get the blood volume up. Sodium pumps up the amt of fluid in the blood stream (as long as there isn't another substance causing it to all go out through the kidneys-bladder). When the blood is way too thin or there isn't enough volume, as a whole, there is a "skipped space", so to speak, where the heart is trying to make up the difference. Allergic reactions can definitely also cause heart palps. Seems like the medical "authorities" don't talk too much about many of these off the wall allergic reactions, other than itchy nose, eyes, and that sort of thing.

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I do occasionally have palpitations, but I don't know if it's from a reaction (allergic) or what not... since using the inhaler, it doesn't happen as much... weird huh? My pulse rate has always been from the 70s to 90s... *shrug*. My blood pressure is always 120/80 or 70. So I really have no clue what the hell is wrong with me lol. Maybe we can hold a raffle and the person who wins gets a big stuffed banana or something LOL.

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Oh My Goodness right on target . AMEN Sista AAAAMMMMEEEEEENNNNN. Tina Teague wrote: exactly. andrea Re: ummm.... Yep, I have always had tons of energy when cold and lazy days when hot – I now live in Texas after being born and raised in the state of NY and living in Chicago 6 years as well.I am used to keeping on like the Energizer rabbit and only slow down when I am either hot or “crash.”I AM feeling more hungry... And I know what you mean about listening to my body — if I can only get my mind to co-operate — I have found that 24 has never been an adequate amount of hours in any day! There are days when I want to exercise AFTER I exercise and others when 30 minutes seems like hours... I know I am not a slacker so yep,

I will try to quit pushing myself against what I obviously need... Rest when tired and move when energized...it’s sounds so simple yet it’s so hard for me – maybe this is why most docs want us on antidepressants to numb the aggravation we feel instead of getting to the root of the actual ailment(s) -- it seems that way!sue Your body has a lot of adjustments to make if it's been starved for the T3 and is getting it now... more energy will be going to raise body temp, increase heart rate, increase organ activity.. you're already experiencing the increased brain activity... Some of the adjustments will make you feel more tired as your body shifts stuff around... you might be feeling more hungry as energy requirements shift.... Watch your body, it will give you clues

as to what it needs you to do.... If you're not feeling like exercising.. do gentle stretching to keep the muscles limber and blood flow to them good.... Your comment about the cold making you more reved up.. part of that could be your body wanting the extra physical activity to increase body temp.. muscles in movement produce heat which will help bring up core temp.. Core temp is the temp of your body organs... and brain... Don't get the guilts for 'slacking off' you have a body that is relearning itself and you get to learn from it as it figures stuff out... pay attention.. Tina JJOIPPKOOUNUJOP'IUJK0--9UTINA MK-099-99\OP'[-0 I]9IKI099 U[

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Oh yes this rings bells for me too. When I was

very hypo I felt robbed. It triggered memories of lost

dreams and hopes; and yes even in that brain befuddled

state I was able to reconnect with hopes I once had

for my life. I might never acheive these old ambitions

(due to age... boo hoo!) but at least I'm giving it a

go now. No more distractions, the children have flown

the nest. No more need to rush and rush and rush just

to stand still.

I never thought that I'd get through this illness; now

I'm sometimes able to live in the moment and be

grateful.

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> Re: ummm....Sue

>

> The way you are describing yourself is the way I

> USED to be, but thyroid, life events, and learning

> to slow down and " smell the roses and look at the

> blades of grass " taught me something different.

> It's the verse that goes " Be still and know that I

> AM God " (His words not mine), and then in my words

> " I'M not God, I'm human " , and then there is that

> song that goes " I'm in a hurry to get things done, I

> rush and rush until life's no fun. All I really

> gotta do is live and die, but I'm in a hurry and

> don't know why. " Now, of course, there are things

> that we need, want to accomplish in this life, and

> we can't be ostriches, burying our heads alternately

> in the clouds and the sand, buuutttt.........Life

> really does become no fun when we're CONstantly

> striving and don't make time to enjoy, something

> like a child does with life. When I was hyper, all

> of life and all it's activities " haunted " me all the

> time, and it was as though I had this constant

> tension. Yes, I ran 5 miles or so a day, and it did

> feel good, but it was out of sheer nerves and brain

> chemistry, along with this weird haunting

> frustration. It's unbelieveable, but hypo HAS

> taught me something invaluable, even with it's

> misery. I want to live and enjoy life. I sleep

> something like 10 to 15 hrs, IF I feel the need to,

> and to heck with the rest. I know I wouldn't be

> doing that when there's a major family crisis, but

> for ordinary circumstances, I don't let the phone

> bug me or anyone else, because I know that I'm going

> to feel more like handling all that if I've had

> proper sleep, rest, and R & R. That way, I can also

> enjoy my day more and handle my job with ease. I

> used to LOVE the cold weather. Since being hypo, my

> body doesn't seem to enjoy EITHER extreme of cold,

> heat, and humidity or even extremely dry air.

>

>

>

> Re: ummm....

>

>

>

> Yep, I have always had tons of energy when cold

> and lazy days when hot - I now live in Texas after

> being born and raised in the state of NY and living

> in Chicago 6 years as well.

> I am used to keeping on like the Energizer rabbit

> and only slow down when I am either hot or " crash. "

> I AM feeling more hungry... And I know what you

> mean about listening to my body - if I can only get

> my mind to co-operate - I have found that 24 has

> never been an adequate amount of hours in any day!

> There are days when I want to exercise AFTER I

> exercise and others when 30 minutes seems like

> hours... I know I am not a slacker so yep, I will

> try to quit pushing myself against what I obviously

> need... Rest when tired and move when

> energized...it's sounds so simple yet it's so hard

> for me - maybe this is why most docs want us on

> antidepressants to numb the aggravation we feel

> instead of getting to the root of the actual

> ailment(s) -- it seems that way!

>

> sue

>

> On 3/12/06 6:23 PM, " topper2@... "

> wrote:

>

>

> Your body has a lot of adjustments to make if

> it's been starved for the T3 and is getting it

> now... more energy will be going to raise body temp,

> increase heart rate, increase organ activity..

> you're already experiencing the increased brain

> activity...

>

> Some of the adjustments will make you feel more

> tired as your body shifts stuff around... you might

> be feeling more hungry as energy requirements

> shift....

>

> Watch your body, it will give you clues as to

> what it needs you to do....

>

> If you're not feeling like exercising.. do

> gentle stretching to keep the muscles limber and

> blood flow to them good....

>

> Your comment about the cold making you more

> reved up.. part of that could be your body wanting

> the extra physical activity to increase body temp..

> muscles in movement produce heat which will help

> bring up core temp.. Core temp is the temp of your

> body organs... and brain...

>

> Don't get the guilts for 'slacking off' you have

> a body that is relearning itself and you get to

> learn from it as it figures stuff out... pay

> attention..

>

>

>

>

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that is exactly what it is like for me... because i specifically can pinpoint a difference when i have something with high fructose, or a food i'm allergic to... like today.. i feel fine *shrug* who knows.

andrea

Re: ummm....

I do occasionally have palpitations, but I don't know if it's from a reaction (allergic) or what not... since using the inhaler, it doesn't happen as much... weird huh? My pulse rate has always been from the 70s to 90s... *shrug*. My blood pressure is always 120/80 or 70. So I really have no clue what the hell is wrong with me lol. Maybe we can hold a raffle and the person who wins gets a big stuffed banana or something LOL.