Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 I think as someone who wants to study Osteopathic Medicine a field where the whole body and person are treated instead of lab work that it is a totally valid theory. The musculoskeletal movements of the body are something that I will be studying and it fascinates me that so much of your body can be off and you not even knowing it. I want to start seeing a chiropractor soon to test this theory for myself. The reason why chiropractic medicine works like you said is that it realignes the spine, takes pressure off of nerve points and allows your total body to be in alignment. I think everyone should see a chiropractor and massage therapist personally. When your skeletal alignment is off, you can have your spine twisted, muscle balls (what I call the tight muscle kinks in your back and what not), headaches, backaches, hip problems, all kinds of joint and neck problems... So it doesn't surprise me that it would help thyroid pain. If for nothing else that having an aligned body means that it will help you work more efficiently without pressure on your organs or body system and the toxins will flush better. It is the same thing with accupuncture, quantum touch therapy, pressure point therapy, etc. The body is a truly marvelous chemical machine and is the best ever invented in my honest opinion. But... that's just me : ). Chiropractic care for Thyroid? Hi, This is something i have never seen discussed here and would like to have some opinions on chiorpratic and thyroid.I do not think chiro can "cure" thyroid. However, chiro can affect so many things in our bodies when the spine is aligned. I have just been reading about this and got a really good deal from a chiro....I guess I never realized that chiro affects nerves etc...can affect so many things in our bodies. In looking at a chart in the doc's office, they have it narrowed down as to what area of your spine affects things in your body...For example. The very last (or first) vertebrae at the base of your skull has a major effect on fatigue, depression etc....I guess I am thinking at this point that if everything is optimized in your spine, surely it would make the thyroid work better....not heal it, but surely help.What do you all think?Kat Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 I've never been to a chiro... would like to some day.... I do know that a lot of my chronic pain came along after I started using crutches... it made move 'off-balance' favoring the worst foot, limping, back off kilter and as more of the tendons became involved it moved farther up my body and increased in intensity... After getting off crutches (after getting thyroid meds up) the pain involved with walking, standing, sitting didn't ease up all at once.... it gradually got better as my alignment got more normal...hard to describe... I hope it makes sense.... So my thinking is that if there are little things, not as profound as what I was dealing with, that would have to cause the same stresses and strains in those areas as well.... a vertebrae off in the neck, shifting balance of the head, pressing on nerves, changing the tensions on tendons and joints.... that has to be a cumulative thing... When one area is off the body tries to balance things by picking up in another area... throwing that off balance... there is only so much 'rob to pay ' that you can do before is broke too!!! Right? One of the things that I make an effort to do before bed is to do, at the very least, some simple stretches and movements to get my muscles and such relaxed so that my body is at ease when I go to sleep... so that my body can concentrate on resting and healing and not trying to keep blood flowing to a area of my body that is stressed or strained or tight some how.... Limp rag-doll sleeping postures instead of tight curled-in-a-ball postures... Topper () On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:38:57 -0000 "katmidg" writes: Hi, This is something i have never seen discussed here and would like to have some opinions on chiorpratic and thyroid.I do not think chiro can "cure" thyroid. However, chiro can affect so many things in our bodies when the spine is aligned. I have just been reading about this and got a really good deal from a chiro....I guess I never realized that chiro affects nerves etc...can affect so many things in our bodies. In looking at a chart in the doc's office, they have it narrowed down as to what area of your spine affects things in your body...For example. The very last (or first) vertebrae at the base of your skull has a major effect on fatigue, depression etc....I guess I am thinking at this point that if everything is optimized in your spine, surely it would make the thyroid work better....not heal it, but surely help.What do you all think?Kat Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 LOL I was just describing the same thing to someone else here, how each vertebra in the spine has nerves that control each part of the body. I meant to ask my chiro about the thyroid stuff last night but I forgot. I'll try to remember and ask tomorrow. I'm not convinced that chiro would unkink anything that would cause hypo/hyper thyroidism, but you never know. I didn't see the link for asthma til he told us the story, but afterward it made sense. Nerves supply everything in your body, and if a nerve is not feeding that part of the body with full supply of energy, then it makes sense it would have problems. I have wondered about this from the beginning of my chiro visits, but keep forgetting to ask. I love the chart that shows what nerves go where! Hi, This is something i have never seen discussed here and would like to have some opinions on chiorpratic and thyroid.I do not think chiro can " cure " thyroid. However, chiro can affect so many things in our bodies when the spine is aligned. I have just been reading about this and got a really good deal from a chiro....I guess I never realized that chiro affects nerves etc...can affect so many things in our bodies. In looking at a chart in the doc's office, they have it narrowed down as to what area of your spine affects things in your body...For example. The very last (or first) vertebrae at the base of your skull has a major effect on fatigue, depression etc....I guess I am thinking at this point that if everything is optimized in your spine, surely it would make the thyroid work better....not heal it, but surely help.What do you all think?Kat Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 Sorry to rain on the parade, and I know I am about to offend those of you who see a chiro, but I think **MOST** chiro's are quacks. If you safely want to have alignments and adjustments, get yourself an Osteopath, who is trained as a full medical doctor. They can do EVERYTHING a chiro can, but they are safer and better. I was actually injurred by a chiro. I had seen him for months prior to this injury. I had been put through all kinds of supposed moving x-ray machines, I was shown all sorts of charts that show which areas of the body heal all sorts of illness that made other medicines unnecessary. He thought he could cure even things lke diabetes. If he could cure them, then why did all his patients have to keep coming back for life? To be truthful, it is all a bunch of bull. They just want you coming back 3 times a week for the rest of your life. The osteopath did more for me, without hurting me. (The chiro hurt me after my first car accident and I had a hard time breathing when he was done with me - had to seek medical care and switched to the osteopath who undid the damage) Be careful if you're dealing with any vertibrae of the neck, as these are very tiny and can easily be put out of alignment, rather than into alignment. The back vertibrae are much larger, and a little less " movable " by mistake. I'm sorry if I am offending those of you who I really like, but I don't think **MOST** chiro's should be allowed to practice on people. Making matters worse, they now have chiro's who work on animals, and I haven't heard of any of the people I know having success with those either. Sorry, I " m a dud on this subject. But I don't want anyone to get hurt like I did. Or even waste money on appointments that go no-where. -Lynn Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 What is a doctor of osteopathic medicine: http://www.osteopathic.org/index.cfm?PageID=ado_whatis For those who aren't familiar with Osteopaths. Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Lynn, I think it’s good to have both points of view — thanks. I just got a new family doc who is a Doctor of Osteopath so that’s very good to know that they work a lot with the spine and back, etc... Just during my consult with her she showed me some exercises to do for my shoulder/neck pain so that’s a plus. I have been considering a chiro but now I will just probe her for help with my other ails... Sounds encouraging. sue Sorry to rain on the parade, and I know I am about to offend those of you who see a chiro, but I think **MOST** chiro's are quacks. If you safely want to have alignments and adjustments, get yourself an Osteopath, who is trained as a full medical doctor. They can do EVERYTHING a chiro can, but they are safer and better. I was actually injurred by a chiro. I had seen him for months prior to this injury. I had been put through all kinds of supposed moving x-ray machines, I was shown all sorts of charts that show which areas of the body heal all sorts of illness that made other medicines unnecessary. He thought he could cure even things lke diabetes. If he could cure them, then why did all his patients have to keep coming back for life? To be truthful, it is all a bunch of bull. They just want you coming back 3 times a week for the rest of your life. The osteopath did more for me, without hurting me. (The chiro hurt me after my first car accident and I had a hard time breathing when he was done with me - had to seek medical care and switched to the osteopath who undid the damage) Be careful if you're dealing with any vertibrae of the neck, as these are very tiny and can easily be put out of alignment, rather than into alignment. The back vertibrae are much larger, and a little less " movable " by mistake. I'm sorry if I am offending those of you who I really like, but I don't think **MOST** chiro's should be allowed to practice on people. Making matters worse, they now have chiro's who work on animals, and I haven't heard of any of the people I know having success with those either. Sorry, I " m a dud on this subject. But I don't want anyone to get hurt like I did. Or even waste money on appointments that go no-where. -Lynn Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 If you want to give yourself a good massage before bed, stand against a wall with a tennis ball between your back and the wall and bend your knees and stand or move around in circles and that will help you to get the kinks out also. You can have a friend do it to. Just have them hold the tennis ball with their palm as it naturally cups the ball and move it around in small circles. Go up the spine and down the spine, back and forth across the shoulders and neck and try to follow the muscle patterns to work it out and it will help. Re: Chiropractic care for Thyroid? I've never been to a chiro... would like to some day.... I do know that a lot of my chronic pain came along after I started using crutches... it made move 'off-balance' favoring the worst foot, limping, back off kilter and as more of the tendons became involved it moved farther up my body and increased in intensity... After getting off crutches (after getting thyroid meds up) the pain involved with walking, standing, sitting didn't ease up all at once.... it gradually got better as my alignment got more normal...hard to describe... I hope it makes sense.... So my thinking is that if there are little things, not as profound as what I was dealing with, that would have to cause the same stresses and strains in those areas as well.... a vertebrae off in the neck, shifting balance of the head, pressing on nerves, changing the tensions on tendons and joints.... that has to be a cumulative thing... When one area is off the body tries to balance things by picking up in another area... throwing that off balance... there is only so much 'rob to pay ' that you can do before is broke too!!! Right? One of the things that I make an effort to do before bed is to do, at the very least, some simple stretches and movements to get my muscles and such relaxed so that my body is at ease when I go to sleep... so that my body can concentrate on resting and healing and not trying to keep blood flowing to a area of my body that is stressed or strained or tight some how.... Limp rag-doll sleeping postures instead of tight curled-in-a-ball postures... Topper () On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:38:57 -0000 "katmidg" writes: Hi, This is something i have never seen discussed here and would like to have some opinions on chiorpratic and thyroid.I do not think chiro can "cure" thyroid. However, chiro can affect so many things in our bodies when the spine is aligned. I have just been reading about this and got a really good deal from a chiro....I guess I never realized that chiro affects nerves etc...can affect so many things in our bodies. In looking at a chart in the doc's office, they have it narrowed down as to what area of your spine affects things in your body...For example. The very last (or first) vertebrae at the base of your skull has a major effect on fatigue, depression etc....I guess I am thinking at this point that if everything is optimized in your spine, surely it would make the thyroid work better....not heal it, but surely help.What do you all think?Kat Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 If you want to give yourself a good massage before bed, stand against a wall with a tennis ball between your back and the wall and bend your knees and stand or move around in circles and that will help you to get the kinks out also. You can have a friend do it to. Just have them hold the tennis ball with their palm as it naturally cups the ball and move it around in small circles. Go up the spine and down the spine, back and forth across the shoulders and neck and try to follow the muscle patterns to work it out and it will help. Re: Chiropractic care for Thyroid? I've never been to a chiro... would like to some day.... I do know that a lot of my chronic pain came along after I started using crutches... it made move 'off-balance' favoring the worst foot, limping, back off kilter and as more of the tendons became involved it moved farther up my body and increased in intensity... After getting off crutches (after getting thyroid meds up) the pain involved with walking, standing, sitting didn't ease up all at once.... it gradually got better as my alignment got more normal...hard to describe... I hope it makes sense.... So my thinking is that if there are little things, not as profound as what I was dealing with, that would have to cause the same stresses and strains in those areas as well.... a vertebrae off in the neck, shifting balance of the head, pressing on nerves, changing the tensions on tendons and joints.... that has to be a cumulative thing... When one area is off the body tries to balance things by picking up in another area... throwing that off balance... there is only so much 'rob to pay ' that you can do before is broke too!!! Right? One of the things that I make an effort to do before bed is to do, at the very least, some simple stretches and movements to get my muscles and such relaxed so that my body is at ease when I go to sleep... so that my body can concentrate on resting and healing and not trying to keep blood flowing to a area of my body that is stressed or strained or tight some how.... Limp rag-doll sleeping postures instead of tight curled-in-a-ball postures... Topper () On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:38:57 -0000 "katmidg" writes: Hi, This is something i have never seen discussed here and would like to have some opinions on chiorpratic and thyroid.I do not think chiro can "cure" thyroid. However, chiro can affect so many things in our bodies when the spine is aligned. I have just been reading about this and got a really good deal from a chiro....I guess I never realized that chiro affects nerves etc...can affect so many things in our bodies. In looking at a chart in the doc's office, they have it narrowed down as to what area of your spine affects things in your body...For example. The very last (or first) vertebrae at the base of your skull has a major effect on fatigue, depression etc....I guess I am thinking at this point that if everything is optimized in your spine, surely it would make the thyroid work better....not heal it, but surely help.What do you all think?Kat Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 I have an anatomy book that I can post pictures from if anyone wants it... Shows endocrine system, nervous system, cardio... the pictures are often used in doctor's offices and they hang on the walls.. very cool. Re: Chiropractic care for Thyroid? LOL I was just describing the same thing to someone else here, how each vertebra in the spine has nerves that control each part of the body. I meant to ask my chiro about the thyroid stuff last night but I forgot. I'll try to remember and ask tomorrow. I'm not convinced that chiro would unkink anything that would cause hypo/hyper thyroidism, but you never know. I didn't see the link for asthma til he told us the story, but afterward it made sense. Nerves supply everything in your body, and if a nerve is not feeding that part of the body with full supply of energy, then it makes sense it would have problems. I have wondered about this from the beginning of my chiro visits, but keep forgetting to ask. I love the chart that shows what nerves go where! Hi, This is something i have never seen discussed here and would like to have some opinions on chiorpratic and thyroid.I do not think chiro can "cure" thyroid. However, chiro can affect so many things in our bodies when the spine is aligned. I have just been reading about this and got a really good deal from a chiro....I guess I never realized that chiro affects nerves etc...can affect so many things in our bodies. In looking at a chart in the doc's office, they have it narrowed down as to what area of your spine affects things in your body...For example. The very last (or first) vertebrae at the base of your skull has a major effect on fatigue, depression etc....I guess I am thinking at this point that if everything is optimized in your spine, surely it would make the thyroid work better....not heal it, but surely help.What do you all think?Kat Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 I have an anatomy book that I can post pictures from if anyone wants it... Shows endocrine system, nervous system, cardio... the pictures are often used in doctor's offices and they hang on the walls.. very cool. Re: Chiropractic care for Thyroid? LOL I was just describing the same thing to someone else here, how each vertebra in the spine has nerves that control each part of the body. I meant to ask my chiro about the thyroid stuff last night but I forgot. I'll try to remember and ask tomorrow. I'm not convinced that chiro would unkink anything that would cause hypo/hyper thyroidism, but you never know. I didn't see the link for asthma til he told us the story, but afterward it made sense. Nerves supply everything in your body, and if a nerve is not feeding that part of the body with full supply of energy, then it makes sense it would have problems. I have wondered about this from the beginning of my chiro visits, but keep forgetting to ask. I love the chart that shows what nerves go where! Hi, This is something i have never seen discussed here and would like to have some opinions on chiorpratic and thyroid.I do not think chiro can "cure" thyroid. However, chiro can affect so many things in our bodies when the spine is aligned. I have just been reading about this and got a really good deal from a chiro....I guess I never realized that chiro affects nerves etc...can affect so many things in our bodies. In looking at a chart in the doc's office, they have it narrowed down as to what area of your spine affects things in your body...For example. The very last (or first) vertebrae at the base of your skull has a major effect on fatigue, depression etc....I guess I am thinking at this point that if everything is optimized in your spine, surely it would make the thyroid work better....not heal it, but surely help.What do you all think?Kat Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 Good things to remember, Lynn... thanks for bringing it up.. .we have to watch each other's backs and share experiences, good and bad, so that others will benefit.... We can make much better decisions about stuff when we have a better knowledge base.... ..... IMHO, of course. So... we should add quack chiros in with the quack docs and call it....... simply quack bashing instead of the doc bashing that we've been doing??? hehehehehe Topper () *former victim of a decade long string of quack docs* On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:24:31 -0500 Lynn writes: Sorry to rain on the parade, and I know I am about to offend those of you who see a chiro, but I think **MOST** chiro's are quacks.If you safely want to have alignments and adjustments, get yourself an Osteopath, who is trained as a full medical doctor. They can do EVERYTHING a chiro can, but they are safer and better.I was actually injurred by a chiro. I had seen him for months prior to this injury. I had been put through all kinds of supposed moving x-ray machines, I was shown all sorts of charts that show which areas of the body heal all sorts of illness that made other medicines unnecessary. He thought he could cure even things lke diabetes. If he could cure them, then why did all his patients have to keep coming back for life? To be truthful, it is all a bunch of bull. They just want you coming back 3 times a week for the rest of your life.The osteopath did more for me, without hurting me. (The chiro hurt me after my first car accident and I had a hard time breathing when he was done with me - had to seek medical care and switched to the osteopath who undid the damage) Be careful if you're dealing with any vertibrae of the neck, as these are very tiny and can easily be put out of alignment, rather than into alignment. The back vertibrae are much larger, and a little less "movable" by mistake.I'm sorry if I am offending those of you who I really like, but I don't think **MOST** chiro's should be allowed to practice on people. Making matters worse, they now have chiro's who work on animals, and I haven't heard of any of the people I know having success with those either.Sorry, I"m a dud on this subject. But I don't want anyone to get hurt like I did. Or even waste money on appointments that go no-where.-Lynn Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 Good things to remember, Lynn... thanks for bringing it up.. .we have to watch each other's backs and share experiences, good and bad, so that others will benefit.... We can make much better decisions about stuff when we have a better knowledge base.... ..... IMHO, of course. So... we should add quack chiros in with the quack docs and call it....... simply quack bashing instead of the doc bashing that we've been doing??? hehehehehe Topper () *former victim of a decade long string of quack docs* On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:24:31 -0500 Lynn writes: Sorry to rain on the parade, and I know I am about to offend those of you who see a chiro, but I think **MOST** chiro's are quacks.If you safely want to have alignments and adjustments, get yourself an Osteopath, who is trained as a full medical doctor. They can do EVERYTHING a chiro can, but they are safer and better.I was actually injurred by a chiro. I had seen him for months prior to this injury. I had been put through all kinds of supposed moving x-ray machines, I was shown all sorts of charts that show which areas of the body heal all sorts of illness that made other medicines unnecessary. He thought he could cure even things lke diabetes. If he could cure them, then why did all his patients have to keep coming back for life? To be truthful, it is all a bunch of bull. They just want you coming back 3 times a week for the rest of your life.The osteopath did more for me, without hurting me. (The chiro hurt me after my first car accident and I had a hard time breathing when he was done with me - had to seek medical care and switched to the osteopath who undid the damage) Be careful if you're dealing with any vertibrae of the neck, as these are very tiny and can easily be put out of alignment, rather than into alignment. The back vertibrae are much larger, and a little less "movable" by mistake.I'm sorry if I am offending those of you who I really like, but I don't think **MOST** chiro's should be allowed to practice on people. Making matters worse, they now have chiro's who work on animals, and I haven't heard of any of the people I know having success with those either.Sorry, I"m a dud on this subject. But I don't want anyone to get hurt like I did. Or even waste money on appointments that go no-where.-Lynn Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 This is why I'm studying to be a D.O. rather than a chiro... lol. The only difference between a chiropractor and a D.O. is that I believe the chiro is authorized by the A.M.A. and a D.O. is authorized by the A.O.A. The D.O. is just like a medical doctor with musculoskeletal alignment training. And your opinion doesn't offend me. Sadly for every good doctor there is out there, there are many who just make problems worse. I want to be such a good doctor that my patients stop coming to me. Not because I screw them up, but because I help them to fix their problems. I hate the 'leeches' of the world. ESPECIALLY in medicine. A good doctor should see patients with the intention of working with them to heal what is wrong with them... NOT keep seeing them to add that addition to their house. fuming mad...lol (future D.O.) Re: Chiropractic care for Thyroid? Sorry to rain on the parade, and I know I am about to offend those of you who see a chiro, but I think **MOST** chiro's are quacks.If you safely want to have alignments and adjustments, get yourself an Osteopath, who is trained as a full medical doctor. They can do EVERYTHING a chiro can, but they are safer and better.I was actually injurred by a chiro. I had seen him for months prior to this injury. I had been put through all kinds of supposed moving x-ray machines, I was shown all sorts of charts that show which areas of the body heal all sorts of illness that made other medicines unnecessary. He thought he could cure even things lke diabetes. If he could cure them, then why did all his patients have to keep coming back for life? To be truthful, it is all a bunch of bull. They just want you coming back 3 times a week for the rest of your life.The osteopath did more for me, without hurting me. (The chiro hurt me after my first car accident and I had a hard time breathing when he was done with me - had to seek medical care and switched to the osteopath who undid the damage) Be careful if you're dealing with any vertibrae of the neck, as these are very tiny and can easily be put out of alignment, rather than into alignment. The back vertibrae are much larger, and a little less "movable" by mistake.I'm sorry if I am offending those of you who I really like, but I don't think **MOST** chiro's should be allowed to practice on people. Making matters worse, they now have chiro's who work on animals, and I haven't heard of any of the people I know having success with those either.Sorry, I"m a dud on this subject. But I don't want anyone to get hurt like I did. Or even waste money on appointments that go no-where.-Lynn Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 > > Hi, This is something i have never seen discussed here and would like > to have some opinions on chiorpratic and thyroid. > > I do not think chiro can " cure " thyroid. However, chiro can affect so > many things in our bodies when the spine is aligned. I have just been > reading about this and got a really good deal from a chiro....I guess > I never realized that chiro affects nerves etc...can affect so many > things in our bodies. In looking at a chart in the doc's office, they > have it narrowed down as to what area of your spine affects things in > your body...For example. The very last (or first) vertebrae at the > base of your skull has a major effect on fatigue, depression etc.... > > I guess I am thinking at this point that if everything is optimized in > your spine, surely it would make the thyroid work better....not heal > it, but surely help. > > What do you all think? > Kat > I have a chiropractor but I am learing to go see him..with my thyroid enlarged I am nervous about getting my neck manipulated if that makes sense to you..I do go to my physiotherapist but he won't touch the neck area.. Kats3boys Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 Be careful with what you post... check the copyright and what is allowed to be used - some of those types of books allow you to use their pics others require written permission, others won't allow it at all..... Topper () On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:45:59 -0400 " Teague" writes: I have an anatomy book that I can post pictures from if anyone wants it... Shows endocrine system, nervous system, cardio... the pictures are often used in doctor's offices and they hang on the walls.. very cool. Quote
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Posted April 4, 2006 Just as there are about 2 good competent docs out there for every 10 I have seen (because I've seen about 10 and liked 2, perhaps my numbers are highly optimistic for some of your experiences it seems), it seems that the same should hold true for about any walk of life, including chiropractors. I got lucky with this one. My doctor tells me to seek an osteopath (DO) when we move to Japan. My chiro explained to us in a welcome class that DO's and Chiros are trianed exactly the same until the last year or so of school, when DO's take a turn to learn about disease, etiology (causes of disease or conditions), and medicine in general, Chiros instead learn about bone alignment and techniques to realign bones, and at some point DO's have to take some extra training to learn similar things to what Chiros learn, they just do it a little differently and call them manipulations instead of adjustments. Or something to that effect, anyway. I don't care what they call it, as long as it makes me feel better, which it is. I don't believe either would work without the other though in my case; I need both physical therapy and chiro adjustments to realign me when things get out of whack. It must be working, because my body is learning to heal itself when things get out of place, the muscles gently ease them back into place more often than not now. Good things to remember, Lynn... thanks for bringing it up.. .we have to watch each other's backs and share experiences, good and bad, so that others will benefit.... We can make much better decisions about stuff when we have a better knowledge base.... ..... IMHO, of course. So... we should add quack chiros in with the quack docs and call it....... simply quack bashing instead of the doc bashing that we've been doing??? hehehehehe Topper () *former victim of a decade long string of quack docs* On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:24:31 -0500 Lynn writes: Sorry to rain on the parade, and I know I am about to offend those of you who see a chiro, but I think **MOST** chiro's are quacks.If you safely want to have alignments and adjustments, get yourself an Osteopath, who is trained as a full medical doctor. They can do EVERYTHING a chiro can, but they are safer and better.I was actually injurred by a chiro. I had seen him for months prior to this injury. I had been put through all kinds of supposed moving x-ray machines, I was shown all sorts of charts that show which areas of the body heal all sorts of illness that made other medicines unnecessary. He thought he could cure even things lke diabetes. If he could cure them, then why did all his patients have to keep coming back for life? To be truthful, it is all a bunch of bull. They just want you coming back 3 times a week for the rest of your life.The osteopath did more for me, without hurting me. (The chiro hurt me after my first car accident and I had a hard time breathing when he was done with me - had to seek medical care and switched to the osteopath who undid the damage) Be careful if you're dealing with any vertibrae of the neck, as these are very tiny and can easily be put out of alignment, rather than into alignment. The back vertibrae are much larger, and a little less " movable " by mistake.I'm sorry if I am offending those of you who I really like, but I don't think **MOST** chiro's should be allowed to practice on people. Making matters worse, they now have chiro's who work on animals, and I haven't heard of any of the people I know having success with those either. Sorry, I " m a dud on this subject. But I don't want anyone to get hurt like I did. Or even waste money on appointments that go no-where.-Lynn Quote
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