Re: Enzymes - Josie and Colleen

[Guest guest]

Thank you for writing Josie and Colleen. Actually Tricia Morin

pointed me to " Enzyme for Autism and Other Neurological Conditions "

and I'm close to 3/4's of the way through. The book is what

prompted me to post asking if others are using enzymes for apraxia.

My problem really is that I am going on instinct, dare I say " gut "

on this. I do not see any specific food intolerance with Nick but I

do see what I interrupt as hyperglycemia tendencies. Basically if

Nick (me too by the way) doesn't eat every three hours with a

protien and a carb then it's a complete melt down sobbing fest on

his part and a quick to temper fest on my part. Nick also is not

gaining weight like the rest of his friends the same age. He eats

really pretty well for a three year old yet he inches up on the

scale while his friends are now 6 to 8 pounds heavier than he is.

The doctor says this is within normal range and not to worry but I

have this nagging in my head that I need to look at enzymes and

other nutritional avenues.

Being this unclear of what I'm trying to target has me wondering

which enzymes to try and when to give them. Has anyone tried the

grazing method of putting them in a drink and sipping it through the

day? This seems a hudge experiment and I think I need to just take

the plunge but I'm unsure as to what to plunge into!

Thank you again for taking the time to write.

Sincerely,

McCann

P.S. I will also order the " Children with Starving Brains " . Thank

you for another lead to helping my son.

[Guest guest]

,

you wrote:--Basically if

Nick (me too by the way) doesn't eat every three hours with a

protien and a carb then it's a complete melt down sobbing fest on

his part and a quick to temper fest on my part. Nick also is not

gaining weight like the rest of his friends the same age. He eats

really pretty well for a three year old yet he inches up on the

scale while his friends are now 6 to 8 pounds heavier than he is.

The doctor says this is within normal range and not to worry but I

have this nagging in my head that I need to look at enzymes and

other nutritional avenues

When you mention " not gaining weight " like his friends, that is clue

number one, and you being his mom have a nagging feeling, and go with

that nagging feeling. I let too many years (my son is only 6) pass

and listened to my pediatrician, mind you he is well respected, and I

have found him to be so on the ball previous to this with my other

kids, but what I personally think is happening today is that there is

soooooo much stuff regular peds pass off as still within normal. If a

child is melting down, beyond typical terrible two's and now child is

3, 4, 5 it isn't typical. I have 3 other kids and I know by now what

is " typical " and what isn't.My son ate a ton, yet kept just creeping

along the growth charts, I commented many times he ate more than the

3 girls put together yet he wasn't making terribly great gains in

height or weight.If there is any malabsorption going on, the child

isn't getting needed nutrition. And MANY factors go into

malabsorption. Food intolerance for one, my son had NO outward signs

of food intolerances, no runny nose, no stomach complaints, had bm

everyday, however before starting his bm's started to get further and

further apart, big clue that somenthing isn't right. Get the bowels

moving daily, is soooo important, and not meds, MOM is the

strongest " safest " or juices, once the bowels get moving alot

of " crap " (excuse the pun) is gotten out of the body...I even se it

with my 4 y/o NY daughter, I never thought foods bothered her, yet,

since " cleaning " my house out of garbage food, we were regular

consumers of Gogurt in the tubes, and she hadn't had them in months.

She had two blue ones at SIL's house, my daughtr came home in a

raving lunatic mood, one I hadn't seen in months, when I asked her

what she had eaten, as I couldn't figure out what was causing her to

be so out of control. Well those are off the menu here.

Hope this helps you.

We are doing the enzymes both ways, my 4 year old is just starting

them in the drinks thru out the day. My older one is popping them

before meals. But things are looking positive so far.

Maybe others giving them longer by grazing method will answer, we

just started with the youngest one here last week.My son has just

also started them, he is the one I started the whole thing on first,

but we were just doing the diet alone, w/o enzymes his issues were

more neurological and I wanted to really clean him up and do

challenges first before starting anything else, to know exactly what

was the culprit.

Good luck, and keep searching, the answers are out there.

Colleen

- In , " srmccann2003 "

<smccann@s...> wrote:

>

> Thank you for writing Josie and Colleen. Actually Tricia Morin

> pointed me to " Enzyme for Autism and Other Neurological Conditions "

> and I'm close to 3/4's of the way through. The book is what

> prompted me to post asking if others are using enzymes for

apraxia.

> My problem really is that I am going on instinct, dare I say " gut "

> on this. I do not see any specific food intolerance with Nick but

I

> do see what I interrupt as hyperglycemia tendencies. Basically if

> Nick (me too by the way) doesn't eat every three hours with a

> protien and a carb then it's a complete melt down sobbing fest on

> his part and a quick to temper fest on my part. Nick also is not

> gaining weight like the rest of his friends the same age. He eats

> really pretty well for a three year old yet he inches up on the

> scale while his friends are now 6 to 8 pounds heavier than he is.

> The doctor says this is within normal range and not to worry but I

> have this nagging in my head that I need to look at enzymes and

> other nutritional avenues.

>

> Being this unclear of what I'm trying to target has me wondering

> which enzymes to try and when to give them. Has anyone tried the

> grazing method of putting them in a drink and sipping it through

the

> day? This seems a hudge experiment and I think I need to just take

> the plunge but I'm unsure as to what to plunge into!

>

> Thank you again for taking the time to write.

> Sincerely,

> McCann

> P.S. I will also order the " Children with Starving Brains " . Thank

> you for another lead to helping my son.

[Guest guest]

I guess I always feel like there is nothing stronger than a mom’s instincts

when it comes to these things.

The beauty of the enzymes is that there is really no down side to trying

(except for the strategizing of how to do it in the beginning). It’s sort

of like taking a good probiotic like acidophilus. With those you are simply

putting good bacteria back into your gut that was supposed to be there in

the first place. With enzymes you are putting enzymes into your gut that

were supposed to be there in the first place…and if you don’t need them they

come right out!

It is completely plausible that he is not absorbing his nutrients properly

and that you will see a change with the enzymes; and I think it is terrific

that you are reading the book b/c I really feel like that will save you some

trouble along the way (so many times I read posts on other lists from people

who didn’t learn the ropes and then are confused/discouraged when it’s not

working out exactly as planned or they don’t see any results right away).

As for the grazing method…I would say no this probably isn’t a good idea.

First thing (and you are probably close to the part of the book that talks

about that), they only stay “active” in liquid for a couple of hours and

only at a cold temperature. Also, how effective the enzymes are have a

direct correlation to how and when they meet the food your child is

ingesting. Dosing depends a lot more on amount of food the kid is eating

than on the size of the kid. So you want to make sure your child gets a

good dose of the enzymes before any meal or significant snack.

In a way it will help that you see the same sort of “symptoms” in yourself

as in your child. That will help you “troubleshoot” when you begin taking

them yourself. Just remember that when you take them yourself, you will

need to take the capsule about ½ hour before eating as the capsule needs

time to disintegrate...and there is really only about a 90 minute window in

the gut where the enzymes can do their job.

There’s nothing “magic” about the whole thing, in that results aren’t always

“dramatic”, in some cases they are gradual; and in some cases you will need

to troubleshoot a little before you get it right. But having read the book,

you will be in a great position to do that!!! And I will add that for

us…well the results WERE dramatic, not just for my daughter but for me…and I

always considered myself to be pretty healthy.

A side benefit is that the enzymes improve the absorption of just about

everything you ingest...and that includes what in our house we call the

“Yucky Magic Fishy Potion” (ie ProEFA).

Good luck with it!

Josie

Being this unclear of what I'm trying to target has me wondering

which enzymes to try and when to give them. Has anyone tried the

grazing method of putting them in a drink and sipping it through the

day? This seems a hudge experiment and I think I need to just take

the plunge but I'm unsure as to what to plunge into!

Thank you again for taking the time to write.

Sincerely,

McCann

P.S. I will also order the " Children with Starving Brains " . Thank

you for another lead to helping my son.

[Guest guest]

p.s.

As for what to start with..I guess maybe I would take a hard look at what he

(and you) are really eating during the course of a day and start with one

that targets those things. Either Peptizyde or Zyme Prime depending on what

you see in the diet. Some people start with one. Some people start with

the other. Seems like most who see benefits from one ultimately see

benefits from both.

[ ] Re: Enzymes - Josie and Colleen

Thank you for writing Josie and Colleen. Actually Tricia Morin

pointed me to " Enzyme for Autism and Other Neurological Conditions "

and I'm close to 3/4's of the way through. The book is what

prompted me to post asking if others are using enzymes for apraxia.

My problem really is that I am going on instinct, dare I say " gut "

on this. I do not see any specific food intolerance with Nick but I

do see what I interrupt as hyperglycemia tendencies. Basically if

Nick (me too by the way) doesn't eat every three hours with a

protien and a carb then it's a complete melt down sobbing fest on

his part and a quick to temper fest on my part. Nick also is not

gaining weight like the rest of his friends the same age. He eats

really pretty well for a three year old yet he inches up on the

scale while his friends are now 6 to 8 pounds heavier than he is.

The doctor says this is within normal range and not to worry but I

have this nagging in my head that I need to look at enzymes and

other nutritional avenues.

Being this unclear of what I'm trying to target has me wondering

which enzymes to try and when to give them. Has anyone tried the

grazing method of putting them in a drink and sipping it through the

day? This seems a hudge experiment and I think I need to just take

the plunge but I'm unsure as to what to plunge into!

Thank you again for taking the time to write.

Sincerely,

McCann

P.S. I will also order the " Children with Starving Brains " . Thank

you for another lead to helping my son.