Re: Potty training Help needed

[Guest guest]

hi sarah,

My son also is 4 and has bm accidents as well. He's ben potty trained since

september. I'm sorry this is gross but are his bm's a little on the loose side?

I notice that my son has more accidents when they are loose. I also feel he

holds it to the last possible second to go. I think with this combo its hard

for him not to have accidents. am I wrong to think this? I feel like when he

gets a little older it will get better or maybe more fiber?

I hope I helped some but had questions too

chris

MOMFULLX@... wrote:

My son 4 1/2 years old who has verbal apraxia, dyspraxia, hypotonis ,

and SDI.

has been in the preschool program in our public school program since

4/2002 where he get speech 3x a week and OT once a week. He also has been in

private speech therapy 1 hour a week since 5/2002 and OT one hour a week

since

9/2002. He got the AAC device Chat PC 2 in 8/2003. He just began Therapeutic

Riding this month.

Now my question, Potty training. has been wearing underwear for the last

seven months. Urination seam under control with me telling him to go to the

potty every 3 hours or so. He still has accidents when get involved in

something, and most of the time he realizes that he is wet and wants change. We

do

still have to moments that we find him soaked and he doesn't seam to mind. At

preschool they say he goes on his own and has only had one or two accidents

which

were bowel movements. Bowel movements are our problem. He is not afraid to

set on the toilet or to have a bowel movement there [the few time we have had

success]. He doesn't not have a regular time that he has a movement. Sometime it

is everyday then others it is every day or two. It can be afternoon of night.

He does realize after the fact and now is trying to clean himself {so now I

am having two messes to clean] which before having solid pants did not bother

him at all. I was wondering how any of you handled potty training. I know that

is very common for a child with both apraxia and DSI to be a challenge to

potty train. Thanks for any advice you may have to offer.

[Guest guest]

Not sure how this will help since your son doesn't seem to have a " regular " time

he goes. With our son, he goes in the a.m. and again in the early evening -

regular as clockwork, unless he's going through a constipation period. To get

him regular, though, we would put him on the potty and just let him sit for a

bit (gravity does wonders!) - read a book, play word games, etc. My husband had

him sit and sing " Old Mc " - that " e-i-e-i-o " part, especially with the

emphasis Josh would put on those sounds, sort of uses the same muscles need for

the pressure to have a bowel movement. I know that sounds goofy but it works!

Sherry

MOMFULLX@... wrote:

My son 4 1/2 years old who has verbal apraxia, dyspraxia, hypotonis ,

and SDI.

has been in the preschool program in our public school program since

4/2002 where he get speech 3x a week and OT once a week. He also has been in

private speech therapy 1 hour a week since 5/2002 and OT one hour a week

since

9/2002. He got the AAC device Chat PC 2 in 8/2003. He just began Therapeutic

Riding this month.

Now my question, Potty training. has been wearing underwear for the last

seven months. Urination seam under control with me telling him to go to the

potty every 3 hours or so. He still has accidents when get involved in

something, and most of the time he realizes that he is wet and wants change. We

do

still have to moments that we find him soaked and he doesn't seam to mind. At

preschool they say he goes on his own and has only had one or two accidents

which

were bowel movements. Bowel movements are our problem. He is not afraid to

set on the toilet or to have a bowel movement there [the few time we have had

success]. He doesn't not have a regular time that he has a movement. Sometime it

is everyday then others it is every day or two. It can be afternoon of night.

He does realize after the fact and now is trying to clean himself {so now I

am having two messes to clean] which before having solid pants did not bother

him at all. I was wondering how any of you handled potty training. I know that

is very common for a child with both apraxia and DSI to be a challenge to

potty train. Thanks for any advice you may have to offer.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

I know this topic comes many times. Potty training can be difficult for some

of our kiddos. It sounds like your son is doing quite well so far.

Bowel movement control tends to be more difficult for children that have

sensory issues. I'm sorry I can not offer you any advice at this time. My

3.8yo son is still in diapers, and has not reached this stage of potty

training yet. However, Chase just started this week taking his poopy diaper

off and putting his bowel movement in the toilet and flushing it down. This

has been messy at times, where I not only have to clean him, I have to clean

the toilet, floor, counter...lets just say the whole bathroom.

Although, this has been frustrating for me, I have not scolded Chase for

doing this. I do not want to discourge him in any way from potty training.

WELL atleast he's not taking off his diaper in the family room anymore (

not for several months now)! NOW that was a mess, requiring professional

cleanings.

I wish you and the best ,

Kris

[chialdrensapraxianet] Potty training Help needed

> My son 4 1/2 years old who has verbal apraxia, dyspraxia, hypotonis ,

> and SDI.

>

> has been in the preschool program in our public school program since

> 4/2002 where he get speech 3x a week and OT once a week. He also has been

in

> private speech therapy 1 hour a week since 5/2002 and OT one hour a week

> since

> 9/2002. He got the AAC device Chat PC 2 in 8/2003. He just began

Therapeutic

> Riding this month.

>

> Now my question, Potty training. has been wearing underwear for the

last

> seven months. Urination seam under control with me telling him to go to

the

> potty every 3 hours or so. He still has accidents when get involved in

> something, and most of the time he realizes that he is wet and wants

change. We do

> still have to moments that we find him soaked and he doesn't seam to mind.

At

> preschool they say he goes on his own and has only had one or two

accidents which

> were bowel movements. Bowel movements are our problem. He is not afraid to

> set on the toilet or to have a bowel movement there [the few time we have

had

> success]. He doesn't not have a regular time that he has a movement.

Sometime it

> is everyday then others it is every day or two. It can be afternoon of

night.

> He does realize after the fact and now is trying to clean himself {so now

I

> am having two messes to clean] which before having solid pants did not

bother

> him at all. I was wondering how any of you handled potty training. I know

that

> is very common for a child with both apraxia and DSI to be a challenge to

> potty train. Thanks for any advice you may have to offer.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The hypotonia could be causing his bowel control problem. Children with low

tone, don't get the same sensation regarding having to go. He may not even

realize he has to go, until he HAS, or until it's too late.

Children with low tone tend to train LATER, not because of intelligence or

unwillingness, but more because their little bodies aren't giving them the

strength of signal that a child may learn to recognize at 2 or 3 years of age.

A SUGGESTION would be to keep him in pull ups. Take him REGULARLY to the potty

(i used to do it every hour), and make him understand that he should tell you if

he feels like he has to go, in between. Sometimes it's just a matter of

continuing to " catch " them at the right time, to get them to understand that

sensation means " I gotta peeeeeeeeee, lol " ...

After a few weeks of this, you may be able to gauge when it is that he DOES

go.....is it every 2 to 3 hours, ??? does he have a bowel movement at any

particular time of day? If so, possibly have him on or near the potty around

that time. (that worked best for us.) It was a little restricting for a short

time, but worked quickly so once he got the idea that " this is what it means,

and this is what i do..... " , he was then able to tell me, and get him there in

time. After just a few weeks, it was like a habit, and there were no further

problems.

Im guessing the hypotonia is what's causing your little guy this

difficulty....he's surely not " late " considering this. Good luck.....let us

know if we can help!

~K

Re: [ ] Potty training Help needed

Hi Sara,

I know this topic comes many times. Potty training can be difficult for some

of our kiddos. It sounds like your son is doing quite well so far.

Bowel movement control tends to be more difficult for children that have

sensory issues. I'm sorry I can not offer you any advice at this time. My

3.8yo son is still in diapers, and has not reached this stage of potty

training yet. However, Chase just started this week taking his poopy diaper

off and putting his bowel movement in the toilet and flushing it down. This

has been messy at times, where I not only have to clean him, I have to clean

the toilet, floor, counter...lets just say the whole bathroom.

Although, this has been frustrating for me, I have not scolded Chase for

doing this. I do not want to discourge him in any way from potty training.

WELL atleast he's not taking off his diaper in the family room anymore (

not for several months now)! NOW that was a mess, requiring professional

cleanings.

I wish you and the best ,

Kris