Re: Re: Insulin and weight

[Guest guest]

Losing weight on insulin can make perfect sense. If one is using avandia,

metformin and a sulf, as I was, I had to eat to the sulf - never go to bed

without a snack at bedtime, never skip a meal, never eat only three bites or I'd

go

low. Be very careful if you exercise.

With insulin, you stop that, and tailor the short acting insulin to what you

actually eat or what your actual activity is. Perhaps skip thelunch bolus if

you are going for a long walk after lunch.

Now, long acting background insulin has some demands too - I had to have the

bedtime snack when I was using lantus or I'd go low at night - one of the

reasons Iwent on the pump was to avoid this.

Also, insulin use tends to keep you honest - in the sense that now that you

are shooting for everything you eat, you may eat less in order to shoot less.

When just on pills, extra amounts eaten aren't dealt with the same way.

All our bodies are different.

Stacey

[Guest guest]

Losing weight on insulin can make perfect sense. If one is using avandia,

metformin and a sulf, as I was, I had to eat to the sulf - never go to bed

without a snack at bedtime, never skip a meal, never eat only three bites or I'd

go

low. Be very careful if you exercise.

With insulin, you stop that, and tailor the short acting insulin to what you

actually eat or what your actual activity is. Perhaps skip thelunch bolus if

you are going for a long walk after lunch.

Now, long acting background insulin has some demands too - I had to have the

bedtime snack when I was using lantus or I'd go low at night - one of the

reasons Iwent on the pump was to avoid this.

Also, insulin use tends to keep you honest - in the sense that now that you

are shooting for everything you eat, you may eat less in order to shoot less.

When just on pills, extra amounts eaten aren't dealt with the same way.

All our bodies are different.

Stacey

[Guest guest]

Losing weight on insulin can make perfect sense. If one is using avandia,

metformin and a sulf, as I was, I had to eat to the sulf - never go to bed

without a snack at bedtime, never skip a meal, never eat only three bites or I'd

go

low. Be very careful if you exercise.

With insulin, you stop that, and tailor the short acting insulin to what you

actually eat or what your actual activity is. Perhaps skip thelunch bolus if

you are going for a long walk after lunch.

Now, long acting background insulin has some demands too - I had to have the

bedtime snack when I was using lantus or I'd go low at night - one of the

reasons Iwent on the pump was to avoid this.

Also, insulin use tends to keep you honest - in the sense that now that you

are shooting for everything you eat, you may eat less in order to shoot less.

When just on pills, extra amounts eaten aren't dealt with the same way.

All our bodies are different.

Stacey

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:27:02 AM Central Standard Time, DEKEP@...

writes:

> I'm wondering what theories would explain the weight reduction stated in

> the

> post above.

>

>

>

for me its all about feeling better....

when my numbers are high...I am hungry all the time....when they are in

normal range I have to remember to eat.....when they are low I could eat the

refrig

cord and all....

Also when I feel better I am more active....

I just know that last time I was on insulin I lost so much weight I could

come off of it.

Yep...its confirmed...my body is really weird.....

Ressy

[Guest guest]

Another reason insulin can help with weight loss in some people is when they

were constantly hungry because the glucose wasn't getting into the muscle

cells. When the hunger abates, they eat less.

Gretchen

> Losing weight on insulin can make perfect sense. If one is using avandia,

> metformin and a sulf, as I was, I had to eat to the sulf - never go to bed

> without a snack at bedtime, never skip a meal, never eat only three bites

or I'd go

> low. Be very careful if you exercise.

[Guest guest]

> Another reason insulin can help with weight loss in some people is when they

> were constantly hungry because the glucose wasn't getting into the muscle

> cells. When the hunger abates, they eat less.

>

As did I when I was first diagnosed. It wasn't so much that I was

eating more, it was the constant thirst. I could not stomach diet

drinks any more, so was drinking regular soda and milk. As my bgs were

very high, I was spilling a lot of sugar in my urine, so did not gain

weight during the year or so before finally getting diagnosed.

My bgs came down, my thirst abated, I stopped drinking sugar and went on

a 1200 calorie diet. Fear is quite a motivator too. I lost 30 pounds,

dropped insulin, went to pills, dropped pills and controlled with diet

and exercise for several years. All within a space of three to four months.

The sad part was I went to many doctors before I diagnosed myself - and

I knew virtually nothing about diabetes.

Helen

[Guest guest]

--- DEKEP@... wrote:

> I always thought that if one went on insulin it

> would be necessary to reduce

> food intake to keep the same weight, simply because

> insulin allows more

> glucose to be stored in the body. The other aspect

> of that simple thinking is that

> since more weight increases insulin resistance, you

> need more insulin to reduce

> A1c than might be anticipated. However, like many

> simple explanations these

> arguments are not always true.

>

> I'm wondering what theories would explain the weight

> reduction stated in the

> post above.

>

>

, it wasn't that I found it " necessary " to reduce

food intake, it just happened. Having insulin running

in your body 24/7 like your pancreas should be doing

makes life so much easier in that your body all of a

sudden no longer seems to stay HUNGRY.

Plus, with a pump/MDI you are counting carbs for your

meals and you are extremely aware of what you actually

eat. If you know that you have to shoot insulin to

cover the carbs you are eating, you might not put that

extra in your mouth! Liz

Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping since

8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET,

Fibro, and asthma.

[Guest guest]

--- DEKEP@... wrote:

> I always thought that if one went on insulin it

> would be necessary to reduce

> food intake to keep the same weight, simply because

> insulin allows more

> glucose to be stored in the body. The other aspect

> of that simple thinking is that

> since more weight increases insulin resistance, you

> need more insulin to reduce

> A1c than might be anticipated. However, like many

> simple explanations these

> arguments are not always true.

>

> I'm wondering what theories would explain the weight

> reduction stated in the

> post above.

>

>

, it wasn't that I found it " necessary " to reduce

food intake, it just happened. Having insulin running

in your body 24/7 like your pancreas should be doing

makes life so much easier in that your body all of a

sudden no longer seems to stay HUNGRY.

Plus, with a pump/MDI you are counting carbs for your

meals and you are extremely aware of what you actually

eat. If you know that you have to shoot insulin to

cover the carbs you are eating, you might not put that

extra in your mouth! Liz

Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping since

8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET,

Fibro, and asthma.

[Guest guest]

--- DEKEP@... wrote:

> I always thought that if one went on insulin it

> would be necessary to reduce

> food intake to keep the same weight, simply because

> insulin allows more

> glucose to be stored in the body. The other aspect

> of that simple thinking is that

> since more weight increases insulin resistance, you

> need more insulin to reduce

> A1c than might be anticipated. However, like many

> simple explanations these

> arguments are not always true.

>

> I'm wondering what theories would explain the weight

> reduction stated in the

> post above.

>

>

, it wasn't that I found it " necessary " to reduce

food intake, it just happened. Having insulin running

in your body 24/7 like your pancreas should be doing

makes life so much easier in that your body all of a

sudden no longer seems to stay HUNGRY.

Plus, with a pump/MDI you are counting carbs for your

meals and you are extremely aware of what you actually

eat. If you know that you have to shoot insulin to

cover the carbs you are eating, you might not put that

extra in your mouth! Liz

Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping since

8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET,

Fibro, and asthma.