Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Ok I took a look at the chart that compares adrenal issues to just plain hypothyroidism. I had about 75-80 percent adrenal issues and about 25% just hypo issues so I am assuming thats enought to raise question.Let me know if I am wrong in thinking this. I saw that Isocort is recomended my concern is that it says youshould take 6 pills a day! Are the rest of you on this taking that much?? The Cortef said it has a steriod in it and I am leary about that as I am busting my butt to lose weight I dont need the added appetite, is anyone on it and can tell me that its not as bad as say something like prednisone? Also is anyone finding success with herbs or something that I can get at a grocery store or walmart instead of having to order this stuff online and waiting for it. I really appreciate everything you guys do. Janeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 IsoCort contains 2.5 mg of cortisol per pill. Cortisol is a natural hormone to the human body. Prednisone is a synthetic and therefore it does not break down in the normal fashion in the body and the patient can take much less because it lingers. The human adrenal gland of a healthy person makes 35 to 40 mg of hydrocortisone per day for a not strenuous day. Adrenal support typically consisits of taking 10 to 20 mg of hydrocortisone in the form of cortef or IsoCort or a glandular a day. This means that you need between 4 and 8 IsoCorts a day. This is 1/3 to 1/2 of total adrenal output. If your adrenals are not making the amount needed, adrenal support serves to make you feel better and to make you have healthy levels of hormone. If cortisol drops too low, there are many damaging effects that are just as serious as it going too high. Low cortisol causes excess inflamation, impairs immune function, interferes with the body's ability to regulate blood sugar, prevents the body from adequately using thyroid, slows conversion of T4 to T3 and many other things. You cannot overdose or get any symptoms of overdose from any dose that is lower than 35 to 40 mg. This is because whatever you take below what the body needs, your own adrenals will drop their production by whatever you take to keep levels below about 35 to 40. It is the same for thyroid hormone. You don't get overdoses by taking anything less than the thryoid makes, which is 4-1/2 to 5 grains. You can get symptoms of thyroid overdose if there is not enough adrenal. This is because without adrenal thryoid builds up in the blood and cannot get into tissues. You can still be hypo, but have a lot in the blood affecting the heart and muscles. People take adrenal support to help them utilize thyroid better. It also helps to allow you to get your dose up to optimal sooner. It cam make you stay much healthier and it can help the adrenals to recover sooner by allowing them to build back up their stores of hormones (they store about 3 weeks worth) and by taking some of the demands off of them so they can recover. You can certainly go without it, but you must be careful about stress and you must really take care of yourself. Also, it can slow the rate at which you can make thyroid raises. I have not once gained any weight from using adrenal support in two years of using it. I suppose if it made your thryoid treatment work better, you might take up nutrients better and gain some weight. If you are low on adrenal output and you just take what is needed to be normal, it isn't possible that you could get any symptoms of overdose. The major cause of weight gain in thyroid treatment is a thryoid dose that is too low causing a metabolic rate that is too low. Adrenal can actually help thryoid work better and keep temperature and metabolic rate higher. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 IsoCort contains 2.5 mg of cortisol per pill. Cortisol is a natural hormone to the human body. Prednisone is a synthetic and therefore it does not break down in the normal fashion in the body and the patient can take much less because it lingers. The human adrenal gland of a healthy person makes 35 to 40 mg of hydrocortisone per day for a not strenuous day. Adrenal support typically consisits of taking 10 to 20 mg of hydrocortisone in the form of cortef or IsoCort or a glandular a day. This means that you need between 4 and 8 IsoCorts a day. This is 1/3 to 1/2 of total adrenal output. If your adrenals are not making the amount needed, adrenal support serves to make you feel better and to make you have healthy levels of hormone. If cortisol drops too low, there are many damaging effects that are just as serious as it going too high. Low cortisol causes excess inflamation, impairs immune function, interferes with the body's ability to regulate blood sugar, prevents the body from adequately using thyroid, slows conversion of T4 to T3 and many other things. You cannot overdose or get any symptoms of overdose from any dose that is lower than 35 to 40 mg. This is because whatever you take below what the body needs, your own adrenals will drop their production by whatever you take to keep levels below about 35 to 40. It is the same for thyroid hormone. You don't get overdoses by taking anything less than the thryoid makes, which is 4-1/2 to 5 grains. You can get symptoms of thyroid overdose if there is not enough adrenal. This is because without adrenal thryoid builds up in the blood and cannot get into tissues. You can still be hypo, but have a lot in the blood affecting the heart and muscles. People take adrenal support to help them utilize thyroid better. It also helps to allow you to get your dose up to optimal sooner. It cam make you stay much healthier and it can help the adrenals to recover sooner by allowing them to build back up their stores of hormones (they store about 3 weeks worth) and by taking some of the demands off of them so they can recover. You can certainly go without it, but you must be careful about stress and you must really take care of yourself. Also, it can slow the rate at which you can make thyroid raises. I have not once gained any weight from using adrenal support in two years of using it. I suppose if it made your thryoid treatment work better, you might take up nutrients better and gain some weight. If you are low on adrenal output and you just take what is needed to be normal, it isn't possible that you could get any symptoms of overdose. The major cause of weight gain in thyroid treatment is a thryoid dose that is too low causing a metabolic rate that is too low. Adrenal can actually help thryoid work better and keep temperature and metabolic rate higher. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 IsoCort contains 2.5 mg of cortisol per pill. Cortisol is a natural hormone to the human body. Prednisone is a synthetic and therefore it does not break down in the normal fashion in the body and the patient can take much less because it lingers. The human adrenal gland of a healthy person makes 35 to 40 mg of hydrocortisone per day for a not strenuous day. Adrenal support typically consisits of taking 10 to 20 mg of hydrocortisone in the form of cortef or IsoCort or a glandular a day. This means that you need between 4 and 8 IsoCorts a day. This is 1/3 to 1/2 of total adrenal output. If your adrenals are not making the amount needed, adrenal support serves to make you feel better and to make you have healthy levels of hormone. If cortisol drops too low, there are many damaging effects that are just as serious as it going too high. Low cortisol causes excess inflamation, impairs immune function, interferes with the body's ability to regulate blood sugar, prevents the body from adequately using thyroid, slows conversion of T4 to T3 and many other things. You cannot overdose or get any symptoms of overdose from any dose that is lower than 35 to 40 mg. This is because whatever you take below what the body needs, your own adrenals will drop their production by whatever you take to keep levels below about 35 to 40. It is the same for thyroid hormone. You don't get overdoses by taking anything less than the thryoid makes, which is 4-1/2 to 5 grains. You can get symptoms of thyroid overdose if there is not enough adrenal. This is because without adrenal thryoid builds up in the blood and cannot get into tissues. You can still be hypo, but have a lot in the blood affecting the heart and muscles. People take adrenal support to help them utilize thyroid better. It also helps to allow you to get your dose up to optimal sooner. It cam make you stay much healthier and it can help the adrenals to recover sooner by allowing them to build back up their stores of hormones (they store about 3 weeks worth) and by taking some of the demands off of them so they can recover. You can certainly go without it, but you must be careful about stress and you must really take care of yourself. Also, it can slow the rate at which you can make thyroid raises. I have not once gained any weight from using adrenal support in two years of using it. I suppose if it made your thryoid treatment work better, you might take up nutrients better and gain some weight. If you are low on adrenal output and you just take what is needed to be normal, it isn't possible that you could get any symptoms of overdose. The major cause of weight gain in thyroid treatment is a thryoid dose that is too low causing a metabolic rate that is too low. Adrenal can actually help thryoid work better and keep temperature and metabolic rate higher. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/24/2004 8:45:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, cubfan23@... writes: > as I am > busting my butt to lose weight I dont need the added appetite, is > anyone on it and can tell me that its not as bad as say something > like prednisone? just to comment on this weight thing. Although I only gained about 10 lbs with hypo...and lost about 1/2 of that with Armour...it wasn't until I was taking the Delta prednisolone that I lost the last 5 lbs. I have no explanation for this other than perhaps my body was utilizing the armour better with the adrenal support. Also, I have had no increase in appetite. But i may be an exception. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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