Slippery stuff vs. Astroglide. ??

[Guest guest]

HI and all, I don't think Slippery stuff and Astroglide are made by the same companies hon. Also the ingredients are very different.

Astroglide consists of purified water, glycerin, propylene glycol, polyquaternium 15, methylparaben and propylparaben.

Slippery Stuff is glycerin-free, pH balanced, sterile, latex- and rubber-friendly. Vegan; no animal testing or animal by-products used in the manufacturing process.

Ingredients: purified water, polethylene, carbomer, methylparaben, sodium hydroxide, DMDM hydantoin.

I think one of the main reasons the Slippery stuff is free of glycerin (but in astroglide) is because that's a sugar and we know how yeast infections love sugar. Also the astroglide also has the propylene glycol and I know some people are allergic to that or it can sting.

I tried the Astroglide years ago and for 'me', never again, I didn't care for it as it irritated me... but as in all things nothing suits everyone the same and we never know till we try it.

Just mumbling.

Dee~

[Guest guest]

I think Slippery Stuff and Femglide are made by the same company. I think they are the same product just with different names. I use Femglide.

Sherri

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HI and all, I don't think Slippery stuff and Astroglide are made by the same companies hon. Also the ingredients are very different.

Astroglide consists of purified water, glycerin, propylene glycol, polyquaternium 15, methylparaben and propylparaben.

Slippery Stuff is glycerin-free, pH balanced, sterile, latex- and rubber-friendly. Vegan; no animal testing or animal by-products used in the manufacturing process.

Ingredients: purified water, polethylene, carbomer, methylparaben, sodium hydroxide, DMDM hydantoin.

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[Guest guest]

Dee,

I checked out this stuff because it sounded good and I wanted something slicker than crisco. Now, I'm not so sure slippery stuff would be good for someone with sensitive skin issues. That DMDM hydantoin is a formaldhyde releaser. It prevents things from growing in the product, but is also associated with alot of painful skin reactions.

I have to agree with you about being hesitant to use Slippery Stuff,

given its ingredients. Parabens of any kind are known endrocrine

disruptors, not to mention the concerns with the ingredient that you've

mentioned. I did use it at one time with no apparent sensitivity problems,

but over time i had more and more problems with its consistency (got too

tacky too quickly) and its smell -- which to me is awfully chemically.

I've found that Nude (now reformulated slightly and renamed Firefly),

is wonderful -- and organic, to boot. But it IS oil-based, which will be

an issue if you use condoms or oil-sensitive toys.

Hollis

[Guest guest]

Dee,

I checked out this stuff because it sounded good and I wanted

something slicker than crisco. Now, I'm not so sure slippery stuff

would be good for someone with sensitive skin issues. That DMDM

hydantoin is a formaldhyde releaser. It prevents things from growing

in the product, but is also associated with alot of painful skin

reactions.

http://chickenlittle.org/reports/skindeep2/report.php?

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Cancer hazard Reproductive/developmental toxicity

Unsafe for use in cosmetics Illegal ingredients (EU)

Illegal ingredients (US) Unsafe in infant products

Potential for harmful impurities Ingredient(s) not disclosed on

label

Sunburn/skin cancer risk Estrogenic chemicals and other endocrine

disruptors

Irritants - eye, skin, or lungs Fragrance

Persistent/bioaccumulative Immune system toxicants (allergies,

sensitization)

Penetration enhancers Safety limits on use/purity/manufacturing

Classified as toxic Potential for infectious disease risk

Hazards for occupational exposures Industry safety warnings

Illegal for use in food Illegal for use in drugs

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Ingredient(s) not assessed for safety No safety information in 37

regulatory/toxicity data sources

Score: 0.6

Concern: moderate

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Health

Contribution to Score Concern Description of this ingredient (and

its impurity)

59% May contain harmful impurities or form toxic breakdown products

potentially contaminated with or breaking down into chemicals linked

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39% Skin sensitizer sensitizer - can instigate immune system

response that can include itching, burning, scaling, hives, and

blistering of skin

Data gaps and not assessed

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its impurity)

2% Risk assessment method deficiencies and data gaps maximum

reported " as used " concentration as basis of safety assessment by

industry safety panel (Cosmetic Ingredient Review, CIR) (implicit

known safe concentration limit in product)

Other relevant risk considerations

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for cosmetics use, according to industry safety panel (Cosmetic

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Cosmetics Ingredient Review Assessments DMDM HYDANTOIN •Safe as used

•Maximum reported " as used " concentration is basis of safety

assessment by industry safety panel (Cosmetic Ingredient Review,

CIR) - implicit safe concentration limit in product

•My contain harmful impurities

•Sensitizer - can instigate immune system response that can include

itching, burning, scaling, hives, and blistering of skin, or severe

respiratory reaction

National Library of Medicine HazMap DMDM HYDANTOIN •Skin sensitizer -

can instigate immune system response that can include itching,

burning, scaling, hives, and blistering of skin

Cosmetics Ingredient Review Assessments - Impurities DMDM

HYDANTOIN •Possible impurity: formaldehyde

> HI and all,

>

> I don't think Slippery stuff and Astroglide are made by the same

companies hon. Also the ingredients are very different.

>

> Astroglide consists of purified water, glycerin, propylene glycol,

polyquaternium 15, methylparaben and propylparaben.

>

> Slippery Stuff is glycerin-free, pH balanced, sterile, latex- and

rubber-friendly. Vegan; no animal testing or animal by-products used

in the manufacturing process.

> Ingredients: purified water, polethylene, carbomer, methylparaben,

sodium hydroxide, DMDM hydantoin.

>

> I think one of the main reasons the Slippery stuff is free of

glycerin (but in astroglide) is because that's a sugar and we know

how yeast infections love sugar. Also the astroglide also has the

propylene glycol and I know some people are allergic to that or it

can sting.

>

> I tried the Astroglide years ago and for 'me', never again, I

didn't care for it as it irritated me... but as in all things

nothing suits everyone the same and we never know till we try it.

>

> Just mumbling.

>

> Dee~

>

[Guest guest]

HI Dawn.... Hon I guess all you can do is try the Slippery Stuff.. esp. since it's made to be hypoallergenic and over the years I've only heard of one person that it did bother (not saying there can't be more of course) but generally it's been ok.

And what you sent on about that ingredient? Hon no matter what you put in there even the very best things I've noticed something will show up as a negative. I used to be very impressed with that but no longer since I found that out... and that's usually in extreme amts. At least that's what I've found so I myself don't lend that much credit. (but that's just me) *grin*.

Like I said hon... all we can do is try it and if it bothers leave it alone.. and no doubt there are things that extremely sensitive people will be allergic to that wouldn't do anything to someone else.

Good luck if you try it and I sure hope it's ok. But if it makes you leery? I'd stick with whatever you've been using hon rather than take a chance.

Hugs

Dee~

[Guest guest]

HI Hollis,

Hon I didn't realize you had a problem with the Slippery Stuff.

Gosh I'm so sorry.... and also curious though if you ordered the Red bottle...? That might be the difference since I only used the Blue one.. and it's a thicker gel.. and never had a problem with it drying up or getting tacky. Ummmm.? plus a little saliva (being it's water based) immediately brings it right back if I were drying up a bit. (but that's me) LOL

Dee,

Yep -- i used the Blue one -- and still have quite a lot of it! At first i really

liked it, but as i said, over time, it really started to be problematic for me. And once i started getting more savvy about chemicals in personal care products, i just couldn't continue to use it, on that basis alone. You're

right about how almost every product has at least one substance that might possibly be dangerous. Trying to find a shampoo that meets all

my "must not have" requirements was getting ridiculous! (I've finally found

a few, thank goodness.)

Hollis

[Guest guest]

HI Hollis,

Hon I didn't realize you had a problem with the Slippery Stuff.

Gosh I'm so sorry.... and also curious though if you ordered the Red bottle...? That might be the difference since I only used the Blue one.. and it's a thicker gel.. and never had a problem with it drying up or getting tacky. Ummmm.? plus a little saliva (being it's water based) immediately brings it right back if I were drying up a bit. (but that's me) LOL

Dee,

Yep -- i used the Blue one -- and still have quite a lot of it! At first i really

liked it, but as i said, over time, it really started to be problematic for me. And once i started getting more savvy about chemicals in personal care products, i just couldn't continue to use it, on that basis alone. You're

right about how almost every product has at least one substance that might possibly be dangerous. Trying to find a shampoo that meets all

my "must not have" requirements was getting ridiculous! (I've finally found

a few, thank goodness.)

Hollis