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In a message dated 9/2/2004 2:42:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mdstephenson@... writes:

> I am getting better but still consider myself fairly reclusive

I am the queen of reclusive now.

cindi

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 2:49:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> He firmly believes that it is a hypo symptom although I haven't seen it

> listed anywhere else.

>

I have seen this listed. I did a lot of research on the link between BDD and

low thyroid...and reclusive behavior was something I found listed.

Cindi

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 2:49:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> He firmly believes that it is a hypo symptom although I haven't seen it

> listed anywhere else.

>

I have seen this listed. I did a lot of research on the link between BDD and

low thyroid...and reclusive behavior was something I found listed.

Cindi

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 3:13:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lyn.worth@... writes:

> me too, if I didn't have a husband I wouldn't see anyone. I go out only

> to buy groceries,

I don't feel so alone now I guess. I used to be rather outgoing...especially

when I was working...but now I'm just very content to stay home and just be

with my husband. I do go some places with him, but I think I could spend the

rest of my life out here in the country not seeing anyone else. I know it's

the hypo.

Cindi

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 3:13:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lyn.worth@... writes:

> me too, if I didn't have a husband I wouldn't see anyone. I go out only

> to buy groceries,

I don't feel so alone now I guess. I used to be rather outgoing...especially

when I was working...but now I'm just very content to stay home and just be

with my husband. I do go some places with him, but I think I could spend the

rest of my life out here in the country not seeing anyone else. I know it's

the hypo.

Cindi

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 3:48:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

merk4@... writes:

> Me too! I hate going out. We have 2 weddings and my husband's class reunion

> to go to in the next month. I am SSOOOOO dreading them all. If it were just

> me, I would find an excuse not to go

Oh - I'm finding new friends here. :) I didn't go to my 30th high school

reunion this past fall...and didn't even care. And I avoid weddings like the

plague.

Cindi

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 3:48:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

artisticgroom@... writes:

> I

> buy most everything I need on Ebay,

I love drugstore.com...and order everything but basic groceries on the

Internet. geez...i feel so much better knowing i'm not just totally weird in

this

reclusive stuff.

moving over to share the reclusive throne,

cindi

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Well, I am a psychotherapist and I know I use to have social skills and finesse

or I wouldn't have been able to stay in private practice or be selected to run

major programs in hospitals. My sister-in-law tells me I have no social skills

left and she is also a psychotherapist.

Well, I guess I never thought much about when it started or why til whoever it

was that posted posted that comment. I haven't worked in 11 years and just

thought it was from that. But 4 years ago my TSH was 3.94, in the normal range,

so I never thought anything about it nor did my doctor. But I was also becoming

more reclusive, unable to deal with situations, not as independent and outgoing

as I once was. But would just say whatever came to my mind - no filter. Heaven

forbid you ask my opinion on anything.

Well, my next door neighbor made the mistake of doing just that. I will try to

be brief. She was taking an psy. course on marriage and was afraid that her

marriage was not doing well according to what she was learning in the course.

She and her husband have been married for 26 years. So I asked her if she was

running around on her husband or if he was running around on her. She very

politely answered me no on both counts. I said well would you marry him again

and she said yes. I said do you think he would marry you again and she said yes

she thought so. I said well then I don't see any problems!!!! Everyone has

their own personality and you are going to drive each other crazy at times but

that is pretty normal, you just have to allow for that. When we got back into

our house my husband said I can't believe you asked her if she was sleeping

around. We had just moved into our house two months before. So that's what I

mean. I also tend the cuss more, but that may really be just me. Grew up with

that language.

Deb

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Deb, I had to chuckle when I read your post, because I, too, had to

work on social skills many times. LOL. In your situation, what makes

you point to this starting about 4 years ago? What changes occured

in your life 4 years ago? Who is telling you that you have no

social skills? etc. Janie

>

> Someone posted not too long ago about not having a filter on what

she says. I read it and just went on but I have the samething. I

am told I have no social skills anymore. I just blurt out whatever

I am thinking without filtering it first. This has been going on

for about 4 years before that I was fine. Is there some connection

to thyroid or adrenal problems and this plain speaking?

>

> Deb

>

>

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Debbie,

the part about becoming reclusive is interesting. When I went to see a private

doc about my thyroid he asked me if I was becoming reclusive. I was surprised

but confirmed that I was. He firmly believes that it is a hypo symptom

although I haven't seen it listed anywhere else.

Lynda (in the UK)

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Well, I guess I never thought much about when it started or why til whoever it

was that posted posted that comment. I haven't worked in 11 years and just

thought it was from that. But 4 years ago my TSH was 3.94, in the normal range,

so I never thought anything about it nor did my doctor. But I was also becoming

more reclusive, unable to deal with situations, not as independent and outgoing

as I once was. But would just say whatever came to my mind - no filter. Heaven

forbid you ask my opinion on anything.

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Debbie,

the part about becoming reclusive is interesting. When I went to see a private

doc about my thyroid he asked me if I was becoming reclusive. I was surprised

but confirmed that I was. He firmly believes that it is a hypo symptom

although I haven't seen it listed anywhere else.

Lynda (in the UK)

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Well, I guess I never thought much about when it started or why til whoever it

was that posted posted that comment. I haven't worked in 11 years and just

thought it was from that. But 4 years ago my TSH was 3.94, in the normal range,

so I never thought anything about it nor did my doctor. But I was also becoming

more reclusive, unable to deal with situations, not as independent and outgoing

as I once was. But would just say whatever came to my mind - no filter. Heaven

forbid you ask my opinion on anything.

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Debbie,

the part about becoming reclusive is interesting. When I went to see a private

doc about my thyroid he asked me if I was becoming reclusive. I was surprised

but confirmed that I was. He firmly believes that it is a hypo symptom

although I haven't seen it listed anywhere else.

Lynda (in the UK)

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Well, I guess I never thought much about when it started or why til whoever it

was that posted posted that comment. I haven't worked in 11 years and just

thought it was from that. But 4 years ago my TSH was 3.94, in the normal range,

so I never thought anything about it nor did my doctor. But I was also becoming

more reclusive, unable to deal with situations, not as independent and outgoing

as I once was. But would just say whatever came to my mind - no filter. Heaven

forbid you ask my opinion on anything.

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My brother got that way before he died from lung cancer. He wouldn't go to a

resturant, even to visit family. I use to teach assertiveness training and got

to where I didn't want confrontation, handle sales people, callers, etc. My

husband does all that now. I am getting better but still consider myself fairly

reclusive. Deb

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Well, I guess I never thought much about when it started or why til whoever

it was that posted posted that comment. I haven't worked in 11 years and just

thought it was from that. But 4 years ago my TSH was 3.94, in the normal range,

so I never thought anything about it nor did my doctor. But I was also becoming

more reclusive, unable to deal with situations, not as independent and outgoing

as I once was. But would just say whatever came to my mind - no filter. Heaven

forbid you ask my opinion on anything.

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Oh,...wow.....:-(

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Well, I guess I never thought much about when it started or why til whoever

it was that posted posted that comment. I haven't worked in 11 years and just

thought it was from that. But 4 years ago my TSH was 3.94, in the normal range,

so I never thought anything about it nor did my doctor. But I was also becoming

more reclusive, unable to deal with situations, not as independent and outgoing

as I once was. But would just say whatever came to my mind - no filter. Heaven

forbid you ask my opinion on anything.

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me too, if I didn't have a husband I wouldn't see anyone. I go out only to buy

groceries, the only other people I speak to (on the phone) are my daughter who

lives in New Zealand and my cousin who also lives in England but a few hundred

miles away.

Lynda (in the UK)

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I am the queen of reclusive now.

cindi

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Me too! I hate going out. We have 2 weddings and my husband's class reunion to

go to in the next month. I am SSOOOOO dreading them all. If it were just me, I

would find an excuse not to go. But my husband has to go to EVERYTHING! I can't

wait to get my Armour (ordered from Myrxforless) and see if it helps this.

Shelli

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I am the queen of reclusive now.

cindi

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<>I am the queen of reclusive now.<>

Well you'll have to share your throne! LOL I go NO WHERE but work & home. I

buy most everything I need on Ebay, I " socialize " on the groomer's email

list but no where else. But then it stands to reason... When you have no

energy to go anywhere, your adrenals are shot so you have no patience for

anything, and you embarrass yourself with losing your train of thought in

mid-sentence, sometimes even in mid-WORD... what's NOT to be reclusive

about? I think I would find it more surprising if we were all outgoing.

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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<>I am the queen of reclusive now.<>

Well you'll have to share your throne! LOL I go NO WHERE but work & home. I

buy most everything I need on Ebay, I " socialize " on the groomer's email

list but no where else. But then it stands to reason... When you have no

energy to go anywhere, your adrenals are shot so you have no patience for

anything, and you embarrass yourself with losing your train of thought in

mid-sentence, sometimes even in mid-WORD... what's NOT to be reclusive

about? I think I would find it more surprising if we were all outgoing.

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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<>I am the queen of reclusive now.<>

Well you'll have to share your throne! LOL I go NO WHERE but work & home. I

buy most everything I need on Ebay, I " socialize " on the groomer's email

list but no where else. But then it stands to reason... When you have no

energy to go anywhere, your adrenals are shot so you have no patience for

anything, and you embarrass yourself with losing your train of thought in

mid-sentence, sometimes even in mid-WORD... what's NOT to be reclusive

about? I think I would find it more surprising if we were all outgoing.

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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I do feel better but I really don't think that has anything to do with this

speaking thing. It comes out before I have a chance to really think about it.

It almost feels like a child - they just say whats on their minds. I am feeling

better mostly due to treating my adrenals and the armour. Deb

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>

>

> Deb, I had to chuckle when I read your post, because I, too, had

to

> work on social skills many times. LOL. In your situation, what

makes

> you point to this starting about 4 years ago? What changes

occured

> in your life 4 years ago? Who is telling you that you have no

> social skills? etc. Janie

>

> >

> > Someone posted not too long ago about not having a filter on

what

> she says. I read it and just went on but I have the samething.

I

> am told I have no social skills anymore. I just blurt out

whatever

> I am thinking without filtering it first. This has been going

on

> for about 4 years before that I was fine. Is there some

connection

> to thyroid or adrenal problems and this plain speaking?

> >

> > Deb

> >

> >

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I do feel better but I really don't think that has anything to do with this

speaking thing. It comes out before I have a chance to really think about it.

It almost feels like a child - they just say whats on their minds. I am feeling

better mostly due to treating my adrenals and the armour. Deb

Re: Plain Speaking

>

>

> Deb, I had to chuckle when I read your post, because I, too, had

to

> work on social skills many times. LOL. In your situation, what

makes

> you point to this starting about 4 years ago? What changes

occured

> in your life 4 years ago? Who is telling you that you have no

> social skills? etc. Janie

>

> >

> > Someone posted not too long ago about not having a filter on

what

> she says. I read it and just went on but I have the samething.

I

> am told I have no social skills anymore. I just blurt out

whatever

> I am thinking without filtering it first. This has been going

on

> for about 4 years before that I was fine. Is there some

connection

> to thyroid or adrenal problems and this plain speaking?

> >

> > Deb

> >

> >

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I do feel better but I really don't think that has anything to do with this

speaking thing. It comes out before I have a chance to really think about it.

It almost feels like a child - they just say whats on their minds. I am feeling

better mostly due to treating my adrenals and the armour. Deb

Re: Plain Speaking

>

>

> Deb, I had to chuckle when I read your post, because I, too, had

to

> work on social skills many times. LOL. In your situation, what

makes

> you point to this starting about 4 years ago? What changes

occured

> in your life 4 years ago? Who is telling you that you have no

> social skills? etc. Janie

>

> >

> > Someone posted not too long ago about not having a filter on

what

> she says. I read it and just went on but I have the samething.

I

> am told I have no social skills anymore. I just blurt out

whatever

> I am thinking without filtering it first. This has been going

on

> for about 4 years before that I was fine. Is there some

connection

> to thyroid or adrenal problems and this plain speaking?

> >

> > Deb

> >

> >

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Amen !! I was told loosing your train of thought was a sign of stress.

well of one kind maybe but no one I know would have said thyroid. I wish I had

the ambition, energy to go out and work. I am in awe of you gals who can and I

know some of you have to but what fortitude, what guts! Deb

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<>I am the queen of reclusive now.<>

Well you'll have to share your throne! LOL I go NO WHERE but work & home. I

buy most everything I need on Ebay, I " socialize " on the groomer's email

list but no where else. But then it stands to reason... When you have no

energy to go anywhere, your adrenals are shot so you have no patience for

anything, and you embarrass yourself with losing your train of thought in

mid-sentence, sometimes even in mid-WORD... what's NOT to be reclusive

about? I think I would find it more surprising if we were all outgoing.

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 6:53:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I have made bizarre additions and subtractions to the tune of several

> hundred dollars during that time

oh thank goodness....i'm not alone AGAIN...i've done this too...rather scary

to think what else I haven't discovered I've done wrong in our home records...

cindi

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 6:53:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I have made bizarre additions and subtractions to the tune of several

> hundred dollars during that time

oh thank goodness....i'm not alone AGAIN...i've done this too...rather scary

to think what else I haven't discovered I've done wrong in our home records...

cindi

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In a message dated 9/2/2004 7:26:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

>

> I'm feeling a little depressed again about all the time lost. I did not

> understand why I changed so much. I just accepted it. I could have been doing

so

> many things I had once loved to do but gave up. It's very sad. Those first

> 2-3 weeks on Armour during the honeymoon period on T3 I saw a glimpse of who I

> used to be. Now I understand so much more about myself.

>

oh my...I could have written these exact words. and yes...the " honeymoon "

period was so delightful - so where did that go?

cindi

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