Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 My wife was on SSD and went on to regular SS and Medicare automatically as soon as she reached 62. There was no choice Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 I discussed disability with my endo about 12 years ago and she told me that she had never heard of disability being awarded on the basis of diabetes alone. However, the picture changes if you have other conditions. Joe definitely has knees that are badly riddled with arthritis and he is not physically capable of doing his former work. He was an electrician. At the age of 52 when he applied, they did not expect him to retrain and get other work. CA is very ageist. BTW, if disability payments are higher in CA, it is because wage scales are higher here. However, they are high in NYC too. Dianne has other physical conditions that limit her ability to work. If you tell them, when you list how your life has changed because of your disability, that this depresses you, you are not assumed to be mentally ill. It is only natural to be depressed in the face of your losses. We did not make a big deal of it, we listed it along with other life style changes. Coincidentally, two of Joe's sisters applied for disability last year too. While their wait for determination was a bit longer than ours, they were granted disability on the first try too. My feeling is nothing ventured, nothing gained. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dianne, Joe was told when he was moved to regular SS, his payment would stay the same. It could be like the IRS tho, different answers from different people, and they stand behind none of it. I would suggest looking for answers first on the SS website. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dianne, Joe was told when he was moved to regular SS, his payment would stay the same. It could be like the IRS tho, different answers from different people, and they stand behind none of it. I would suggest looking for answers first on the SS website. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 I was curious and went to the SSD website and found the answer below: Do disability benefits change once I turn full retirement age? Question I receive Social Security disability benefits. Will my Social Security benefits change when I turn full retirement age? Answer When you reach full retirement age, nothing will change, except for Social Security purposes, your benefits will be called retirement benefits instead of disability benefits. Starting with the month you reach full retirement age, you will get your benefits with no limit on your earnings. These new rules apply for the entire year of 2000, starting in January. What is Your Full Retirement Age? Year of Birth Full RetirementAge 1937 or earlier 65 1938 65 and 2 months 1939 65 and 4 months 1940 65 and 6 months 1941 65 and 8 months 1942 65 and 10 months 1943--1954 66 1955 66 and 2 months 1956 66 and 4 months 1957 66 and 6 months 1958 66 and 8 months 1959 66 and 10 months 1960 and later 67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 I was curious and went to the SSD website and found the answer below: Do disability benefits change once I turn full retirement age? Question I receive Social Security disability benefits. Will my Social Security benefits change when I turn full retirement age? Answer When you reach full retirement age, nothing will change, except for Social Security purposes, your benefits will be called retirement benefits instead of disability benefits. Starting with the month you reach full retirement age, you will get your benefits with no limit on your earnings. These new rules apply for the entire year of 2000, starting in January. What is Your Full Retirement Age? Year of Birth Full RetirementAge 1937 or earlier 65 1938 65 and 2 months 1939 65 and 4 months 1940 65 and 6 months 1941 65 and 8 months 1942 65 and 10 months 1943--1954 66 1955 66 and 2 months 1956 66 and 4 months 1957 66 and 6 months 1958 66 and 8 months 1959 66 and 10 months 1960 and later 67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 has is I said though there is a trick no one knows rahter you get disbailty or not relyes ona computer system. the computer is set to auto pull out every so many apps for rejection. > >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: disability >Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:31:19 -0800 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 If psychiatric disability is a sure way to get SSDI now, things sure have changed. It used to be very difficult for people with only psychiatric diagnoses to get Social Security. The standard is ability to work. If diabetes, for any reason (most likely complications), impairs your ability to work, you can be considered for disability coverage under Social Security. Similarly, you would be considered disabled under the Americans with Disabilities Act if your diabetes impaired your ability to perform one or more 'acts of daily living' (i.e., walking). Sometimes diabetes gives you other genuine disabilities, such as blindness. But SS will consider any genuine work impairment. May > I discussed disability with my endo about 12 years ago and she told me > that she had never heard of disability being awarded on the basis of > diabetes alone. However, the picture changes if you have other conditions. > > Joe definitely has knees that are badly riddled with arthritis and he is > not physically capable of doing his former work. He was an electrician. > At the age of 52 when he applied, they did not expect him to retrain > and get other work. CA is very ageist. > > BTW, if disability payments are higher in CA, it is because wage scales > are higher here. However, they are high in NYC too. > > Dianne has other physical conditions that limit her ability to work. If > you tell them, when you list how your life has changed because of your > disability, that this depresses you, you are not assumed to be mentally > ill. It is only natural to be depressed in the face of your losses. We > did not make a big deal of it, we listed it along with other life style > changes. Coincidentally, two of Joe's sisters applied for disability > last year too. While their wait for determination was a bit longer than > ours, they were granted disability on the first try too. > > My feeling is nothing ventured, nothing gained. > > Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 This is a federal program, benefits are calculated according to wages, not location. However, if you are receiving something from the state, yes that would change when relocating outside the state. Jan, are you on federal disability or state disability? From the SSA website: The amount of your monthly disability benefit is based on your lifetime average earnings covered by Social Security. The Social Security Statement we send you each year will tell you how much you would get if you became disabled at the time the Statement is prepared. (If you haven't gotten your Statement, you can complete and transmit the request form online. You should receive your statement within 3-4 weeks.) You can also use our Benefit Calculators to determine how much you would get if you became disabled right now. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/dibplan/dapproval2.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dianne, don't forget to count in neuropathy and the effect of pain meds. A big plus would be to go in with doctor letters/reports stating the nature of your conditions and the way it interferes with your ability to work. As many doctors as possible - and I know that you might run into some difficulty there. Certain doctors will not be possible. You have six months before coming to a decision about early retirement, might as well use them toward this. Let me know if there is any way I can help. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dianne when I retired on disability I did not have the diabetes diagnosis yet but my back was the main thing and the SS doc had me do some movements. ml Kore wrote: > > >It used to be very difficult for people with only psychiatric diagnoses to get > Social Security.< > > I don't remember suggesting applying for SSD with ONLY psychiatric problems. > > In my case, I have Diabetes, Lumbar radiculopathy, and Fibromyalgia. I was told > that these problems weren't enough, but that I would have to have a major > psychiatric problem, which I don't feel I have (other than feeling a bit > depressed sometimes because I can't work due to exhaustion and constant pain). > I loved my job. > > Dianne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dianne when I retired on disability I did not have the diabetes diagnosis yet but my back was the main thing and the SS doc had me do some movements. ml Kore wrote: > > >It used to be very difficult for people with only psychiatric diagnoses to get > Social Security.< > > I don't remember suggesting applying for SSD with ONLY psychiatric problems. > > In my case, I have Diabetes, Lumbar radiculopathy, and Fibromyalgia. I was told > that these problems weren't enough, but that I would have to have a major > psychiatric problem, which I don't feel I have (other than feeling a bit > depressed sometimes because I can't work due to exhaustion and constant pain). > I loved my job. > > Dianne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Diane, I was awarded my SSDI with Fibro and CFS as my only diagnosis'. I went to the hearing level as I said before, but won hands down. Tommie PS. One of my sisters got her SSDI faster than I did and she is Bipolar aka Manic Depressive _____ From: Kore Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:57 PM To: diabetes_int Subject: Re: disability >It used to be very difficult for people with only psychiatric diagnoses to get Social Security.< I don't remember suggesting applying for SSD with ONLY psychiatric problems. In my case, I have Diabetes, Lumbar radiculopathy, and Fibromyalgia. I was told that these problems weren't enough, but that I would have to have a major psychiatric problem, which I don't feel I have (other than feeling a bit depressed sometimes because I can't work due to exhaustion and constant pain). I loved my job. Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Diane, I was awarded my SSDI with Fibro and CFS as my only diagnosis'. I went to the hearing level as I said before, but won hands down. Tommie PS. One of my sisters got her SSDI faster than I did and she is Bipolar aka Manic Depressive _____ From: Kore Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:57 PM To: diabetes_int Subject: Re: disability >It used to be very difficult for people with only psychiatric diagnoses to get Social Security.< I don't remember suggesting applying for SSD with ONLY psychiatric problems. In my case, I have Diabetes, Lumbar radiculopathy, and Fibromyalgia. I was told that these problems weren't enough, but that I would have to have a major psychiatric problem, which I don't feel I have (other than feeling a bit depressed sometimes because I can't work due to exhaustion and constant pain). I loved my job. Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 I guess I just got lucky. My benefits didn't change moving from Okla to PA. Tommie _____ * This is a federal program, benefits are calculated according to wages, not location. However, if you are receiving something from the state, yes that would change when relocating outside the state. Jan, are you on federal disability or state disability? From the SSA website: The amount of your monthly disability benefit is based on your lifetime average earnings covered by Social Security. The Social Security Statement we send you each year will tell you how much you would get if you became disabled at the time the Statement is prepared. (If you haven't gotten your Statement, you can complete and transmit the request form online. You should receive your statement within 3-4 weeks.) You can also use our Benefit Calculators to determine how much you would get if you became disabled right now. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/dibplan/dapproval2.htm **. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 > --- Dave Fales wrote: > > has is I said though there is a trick no one knows > > rahter you get disbailty > > or not relyes ona computer system. the computer is > > set to auto pull out > > every so many apps for rejection. > Dave with all due respect, this statement is hogwash. SS disability is not a lottery and what you describe does not exist. I invite you to prove me wrong with concrete data and not perceive personal experience. Some people are rejected the first time because of misunderstandings, failure on the part of the applicant to properly fill out the paperwork and/or go through the required steps in the manner SS demand or because the applicant doesn't meet the requirements. If they are rejected the second time it is for the same reasons as the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I agree with this statement. I was turned down a total of 4 times. FInally I got an attorney and I didnt even have to go to a hearing. The attorney got on the phone talked to the man in charge and within 2 weeks I was approved. Got a hella check for back pay and gave attorney 25%. It isnt a lottery. I think it is a bogus way of doing disability. I didnt even go to one of t heir drs from what I hear they dont do that anymore. To costly. Jan Haney Dave with all due respect, this statement is hogwash. SS disability is not a lottery and what you describe does not exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Hi Everybody! My husband and I both applied for SSI. He applied in August of 2004. They lost some of the paper work and we didn't hear anything for months until I applied in December 2004. We were both sent to doctors by the SSI office. My hubby was awarded his benefits just this month. They turned me down so I have turned the appeal over to an attorney. Things have changed for me since I applied in December. I applied because of my degenerative disk disease and osteoarthritis. Now I can add the diabetes, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. My doctor told me she didn't think I would be denied in the appeal. I sure hope she is right. I know the attornies will help my case. Good luck to all who are going through the process. Don't give up! Pay an attorney 25%! It will be worth it in the long run! C. NCRaised > I agree with this statement. I was turned down a total of 4 times. FInally I got an attorney and I didnt even have to go to a hearing. The attorney got on the phone talked to the man in charge and within 2 weeks I was approved. Got a hella check for back pay and gave attorney 25%. > It isnt a lottery. I think it is a bogus way of doing disability. I didnt even go to one of t heir drs from what I hear they dont do that anymore. To costly. > > Jan Haney > Dave with all due respect, this statement is hogwash. SS disability is > not a lottery and what you describe does not exist. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 soory but it is a lotery most people cant belive it i have afrind that workds for them and he said this is somthign he has faught the hole time he worked for them >From: surveys@... >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: disability >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 04:02:26 -0000 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 soory but it is a lotery most people cant belive it i have afrind that workds for them and he said this is somthign he has faught the hole time he worked for them >From: surveys@... >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: disability >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 04:02:26 -0000 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 soory but it is a lotery most people cant belive it i have afrind that workds for them and he said this is somthign he has faught the hole time he worked for them >From: surveys@... >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: disability >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 04:02:26 -0000 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 see i don't see high colestril has a diabilty you can wokr with high colestrial artherites is debatiable. I know lots of people with it that can owrk. i think that is why it is hard to get disabilty once you get dioned and go in front of the judge they are more particulaer ebcuse of the fact of so many people usign thening that are not diabsilites >From: surveys@... >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: disability >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 04:02:26 -0000 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 , I also have rheumatoid arthritis, along with diabetes. Fortunately, I didn't get it until I was 60 and already retired. Also, my RA symptoms are greatly alleviated by Enbrel. I like diabetes a lot better than I like RA, LOL. I'm on a good RA support mailing list. Email me if you'd be interested in joining it. Sue > > I have to agree with you. I have rheumatoid arthritis, and, while it > is not my choice to be placed on disability, it is also not for > another person to tell me what I have to " learn to live with. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 I agree that it is very painfull but I know it don't stop me from working ebcue I don't want to be like my mom were she is ina wheel chair from atrhriotes and it is hr fault she just gave up. I feel and went into the wheel chair becuse of lazyness. > >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: Re: disability >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:40:03 -0800 (PST) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 but it is amking money while you do nothing. i could get it know if i want and choose to only apley fopr the emp disabilty through work comp. but has soon has i can I will work agaon. heck the dr's have told me for years thjat i should get disability for arthrites and i was like nope I don;t want to be lazy. i just oput up with the pain. when you ahve chroic pain you learn how to live with it. >From: staceypmartin@... >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: Re: disability >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:51:23 EST > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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