bruising

[Guest guest]

hello, my daughter ciarra gets bruises all the time too. they found out it was

do to a low platelet count. i would definitely keep your eyes on it . her

platelet counts have been low for almost a year now. normal is 150,000-

400,000, ciarra's run about 75,000- 85,000. they keep a close eye on it . they

think they actually know why now, but first put it off to the jra, and then when

kept being so persistent , then did blood work and found the low platelet count.

just something to think about. SHelly

ajaomom@... wrote:Hi all.....

I have a question............Holly has a lot of bruises, and i am not

saying she didn't bump them, but the kiddo has over 20 on her legs right

now..........some pretty big.............when do you start (or stop)

worrying??...........please tell me to sit down shut up and stop worrying so

much!!!!!

Aj

[Guest guest]

Excessive bruising could be a sign of Vitamin C deficiency. I have

witnessed this in my daughter while on viral protocol where her body

was having to fight viruses hard and she wound up with LOTS of

unexplained bruises on her lower legs that there was no other

explanation for. Try increasing your vitamin C.

Sheres

>

> I'm glad someone wrote in about this because I have noticed the

same thing

> in my daughter. She turned three about a week ago. She is

GF/CF/SF and

> partial Feingold. Taking a ton of supplements. And I've been

wondering for

> about a month now if she is bruising more easily or if it's my

imagination.

> Also, the bruises seem to last a long time and they're not fading

away. Any

> information on this is very helpful to me also.

>

> Thank you!

>

>

>

>

> Susye

>

[Guest guest]

Talk to your pediatrician. A CBC is probably called for, but she may also need

vitamin K,

which is an oil-soluble vitamin one gets most easily from greens, spinach, etc.

SURE your

duaghter eats spinach, right--NOT!

Peace,

Kathy E.

>

> I'm glad someone wrote in about this because I have noticed the same thing

> in my daughter. She turned three about a week ago. She is GF/CF/SF and

> partial Feingold. Taking a ton of supplements. And I've been wondering for

> about a month now if she is bruising more easily or if it's my imagination.

> Also, the bruises seem to last a long time and they're not fading away. Any

> information on this is very helpful to me also.

>

> Thank you!

>

>

>

>

> Susye

>

[Guest guest]

thanks

<res075oh@...> wrote: I had that question for my doctor

recently. He told me it was because I

was taking a baby aspirin every day and my blood is very thin.

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stephsnotes2003 <stephsnotes2003>

Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:26 am (PST)

I bruise very easily. Is that a sign of low cortisol or too much? Last

year when I had my nervous breakdown I had bruises all over my body.

It

looked like I was beat up bad!

Thanks Steph

[Guest guest]

I am sure that can factor in. The really classic hypo bruising is

on the thighs and arms (bicep area).

Sherry

>> I had that question for my doctor recently. He told me it was

because I

> was taking a baby aspirin every day and my blood is very thin.

>

>

>

> bruising

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>

> Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:26 am (PST)

>

> I bruise very easily. Is that a sign of low cortisol or too

much? Last

> year when I had my nervous breakdown I had bruises all over my

body.

> It

> looked like I was beat up bad!

>

> Thanks Steph

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Helen,

When was on her medicines she bruised more. Some meds bruised

more. Liver test is one that will be off I think if they bruise easy. Aspirin

will also make them bruise. I would call the Dr to be safe ok. Also the

sting's need to be checked. As with any bites they are more prone to

infections.

Staph infections are hard to get rid of. How is he doing other wise?

Robbin

[Guest guest]

Helen,

At this point I can't remember all the meds nick is currently on. I

know he is tapering pred, and the remicade of course but forget the

rest.

Anyway, Drea has never bruised easily but now that we have restarted

mtx she has lots of bruising. She gets deep blue ones all over the

place but mostly hips, legs, and arms. She rarely ever recalls how

she gets them. I always make a point of letting her teachers know

that the bruising is a side effect of the meds and that we really

don't beat her...Looking at her one would have to wonder about it!

The NSAIDS caused her to bruise easier as well but not as severely

as the mtx.

I know there are certain labs that would point to this as well at

least to indicate whether or not he is anemic.

(Aundrea 11 systemic jra)

>

> Hey all,

>

> I have a question, Nick has always been easy to bruise, but lately

> hes been bruising pretty badly. Yesterday he bumped into his

brother

> on the trampoline and how has a HUGE black and purple bruise on

his

> shoulder. I thought it was mud and went to wash it off, it was so

> huge, only to find its a bruise. Nick barely remembers even

bumping

> into his brother, so I dont think it was a bad bump.

>

> Do any of the meds cause easy bruising like this?? also i think I

> remember if some blood work is off you are more likely to bruise.

Is

> this something I should be concerned about.

>

> Also, 3 weeks ago Nick was stung by a wasp or hornet, 2 times,

once

> on the top of one leg and then on the shin of the other. he now

has

> sores where the stings were, about the size of the end of a pencil

> eraser. It looks like a scab in the middle surrounded by raised

red

> ring around it. I have been putting bactroban on them both but

they

> are showing no signs of going away. Nick has the wiredest skin, he

> has a probable connective tissue disorder so i wonder if this lack

> of healing has something to do with that.

>

> I hate to run to the ped all the time. He has a rheumy appt and

his

> remicade on the 1st so i might have the doc draw blood ( Nick is

not

> due this visit) just to make sure that soemthing is not " off "

there

> thats causing the bruising.

>

> hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen:

First I would say that after 3 weeks those stings should be completely gone

without a trace. I wold at lease call the ped, but I'm sure they will want to

see them, that is not a usual reaction...at least not for my kids. Hannah was

stung also on the chest about 3 weeks (little bugger went down her swimsuit top)

she has not signs at all any more.

Have you checked the side-effects online for his current meds about the

bruising. That is also something you could ask the ped when you call. They

should be able to answer that as well.

Tell Nick to hang tough and we are sending happy thoughts. There are far too

many of our kids having troubles right now.

hburger64 <hburger64@...> wrote:

Hey all,

I have a question, Nick has always been easy to bruise, but lately

hes been bruising pretty badly. Yesterday he bumped into his brother

on the trampoline and how has a HUGE black and purple bruise on his

shoulder. I thought it was mud and went to wash it off, it was so

huge, only to find its a bruise. Nick barely remembers even bumping

into his brother, so I dont think it was a bad bump.

Do any of the meds cause easy bruising like this?? also i think I

remember if some blood work is off you are more likely to bruise. Is

this something I should be concerned about.

Also, 3 weeks ago Nick was stung by a wasp or hornet, 2 times, once

on the top of one leg and then on the shin of the other. he now has

sores where the stings were, about the size of the end of a pencil

eraser. It looks like a scab in the middle surrounded by raised red

ring around it. I have been putting bactroban on them both but they

are showing no signs of going away. Nick has the wiredest skin, he

has a probable connective tissue disorder so i wonder if this lack

of healing has something to do with that.

I hate to run to the ped all the time. He has a rheumy appt and his

remicade on the 1st so i might have the doc draw blood ( Nick is not

due this visit) just to make sure that soemthing is not " off " there

thats causing the bruising.

hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

Beth Yohnk

Happy Thoughts..Be Well

[Guest guest]

Hi, Helen. bruised like crazy when he was on the Celebrex. So I

would say that the NSAID if he is on any may be causing the bruising.

Hope this helps, Michele ( 19, spondy)

________________________________

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of hburger64

Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:39 PM

Subject: Bruising

Hey all,

I have a question, Nick has always been easy to bruise, but lately

hes been bruising pretty badly. Yesterday he bumped into his brother

on the trampoline and how has a HUGE black and purple bruise on his

shoulder. I thought it was mud and went to wash it off, it was so

huge, only to find its a bruise. Nick barely remembers even bumping

into his brother, so I dont think it was a bad bump.

Do any of the meds cause easy bruising like this?? also i think I

remember if some blood work is off you are more likely to bruise. Is

this something I should be concerned about.

Also, 3 weeks ago Nick was stung by a wasp or hornet, 2 times, once

on the top of one leg and then on the shin of the other. he now has

sores where the stings were, about the size of the end of a pencil

eraser. It looks like a scab in the middle surrounded by raised red

ring around it. I have been putting bactroban on them both but they

are showing no signs of going away. Nick has the wiredest skin, he

has a probable connective tissue disorder so i wonder if this lack

of healing has something to do with that.

I hate to run to the ped all the time. He has a rheumy appt and his

remicade on the 1st so i might have the doc draw blood ( Nick is not

due this visit) just to make sure that soemthing is not " off " there

thats causing the bruising.

hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

[Guest guest]

--,

Im wondering if its not the relafen, hes been on it two months now.

I found more bruises on him last night, he has a faint scratch on

his leg, but its all bruised both sides right along the scratch,

then theres another black mark in a place where kids dont usually

get bruises.

Ill talk to the rheumy at the appt next week...

hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

- In , " Tepper, Michele " <MTepper@...> wrote:

>

> Hi, Helen. bruised like crazy when he was on the Celebrex.

So I

> would say that the NSAID if he is on any may be causing the

bruising.

> Hope this helps, Michele ( 19, spondy)

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of hburger64

> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:39 PM

>

> Subject: Bruising

>

>

>

> Hey all,

>

> I have a question, Nick has always been easy to bruise, but lately

> hes been bruising pretty badly. Yesterday he bumped into his

brother

> on the trampoline and how has a HUGE black and purple bruise on

his

> shoulder. I thought it was mud and went to wash it off, it was so

> huge, only to find its a bruise. Nick barely remembers even

bumping

> into his brother, so I dont think it was a bad bump.

>

> Do any of the meds cause easy bruising like this?? also i think I

> remember if some blood work is off you are more likely to bruise.

Is

> this something I should be concerned about.

>

> Also, 3 weeks ago Nick was stung by a wasp or hornet, 2 times,

once

> on the top of one leg and then on the shin of the other. he now

has

> sores where the stings were, about the size of the end of a pencil

> eraser. It looks like a scab in the middle surrounded by raised

red

> ring around it. I have been putting bactroban on them both but

they

> are showing no signs of going away. Nick has the wiredest skin, he

> has a probable connective tissue disorder so i wonder if this lack

> of healing has something to do with that.

>

> I hate to run to the ped all the time. He has a rheumy appt and

his

> remicade on the 1st so i might have the doc draw blood ( Nick is

not

> due this visit) just to make sure that soemthing is not " off "

there

> thats causing the bruising.

>

> hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen -

I would be surprised if it were not related somehow to the Remicade.

Possibly the Remicade/Prednisone/MTX combination. I remember when

Caroline was on Enbrel/Prednisone/MTX her doc told me that was one of

the worst combinations for side effects and immuno suppresives. I

would have to believe that Remicade would only increase that chance.

I would speak to Dr. Vehe about it or Warshowsky if you can get a

hold of her. If the risk is significant they might pull back on the

Remicade so it may be a risk versus reward situation..

Keep us posted!

Alia and Caroline, age 4, poly and uveitis

>

> Hey all,

>

> I have a question, Nick has always been easy to bruise, but lately

> hes been bruising pretty badly. Yesterday he bumped into his

brother

> on the trampoline and how has a HUGE black and purple bruise on his

> shoulder. I thought it was mud and went to wash it off, it was so

> huge, only to find its a bruise. Nick barely remembers even bumping

> into his brother, so I dont think it was a bad bump.

>

> Do any of the meds cause easy bruising like this?? also i think I

> remember if some blood work is off you are more likely to bruise.

Is

> this something I should be concerned about.

>

> Also, 3 weeks ago Nick was stung by a wasp or hornet, 2 times, once

> on the top of one leg and then on the shin of the other. he now has

> sores where the stings were, about the size of the end of a pencil

> eraser. It looks like a scab in the middle surrounded by raised red

> ring around it. I have been putting bactroban on them both but they

> are showing no signs of going away. Nick has the wiredest skin, he

> has a probable connective tissue disorder so i wonder if this lack

> of healing has something to do with that.

>

> I hate to run to the ped all the time. He has a rheumy appt and his

> remicade on the 1st so i might have the doc draw blood ( Nick is

not

> due this visit) just to make sure that soemthing is not " off " there

> thats causing the bruising.

>

> hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

>

[Guest guest]

I use to never bruise. About 3-1/2 years ago. I tapped my leg on something.

I still to this day am black and blue from it. It even started to get indented

when I gained some weight while on Predisone. I bruise very easily now...and

it last forever.

Kathy in CA

[Guest guest]

Bruising was one of the reasons my pcp ran a full blood panel on me, which in

turn found my elevated LFT's. I get horrible one's and don't even know how I

get them. It took a lot of work for me to convince my dad that I wasn't

being abused! :-)

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruising is also the way I got to the doctoe, I have a friend who is a

retired intensive care nurse and she pushed me to go to the doc for

testing.......and he found the elevated Lfts.............I am so thankful that

Judy encouraged me to get to the doc

Sue

mlhydefam@... wrote:

Bruising was one of the reasons my pcp ran a full blood panel on me,

which in

turn found my elevated LFT's. I get horrible one's and don't even know how I

get them. It took a lot of work for me to convince my dad that I wasn't

being abused! :-)

[Guest guest]

I too bruise horrifically, and my GI sent me to the hemotologist. He did lots

of tests and discovered that I have acquired Factor V deficiency. Not at all

the most wonderful thing to have. I now take Vit K each morning to help to keep

the blood clotting. So when the grandbabies climb on my legs, I immediately get

a bruise...not what I enjoy, but it is the way it is. I have my labs drawn in

Dec, so will know how they are at that time.

Debby

[ ] bruising

Clear Day

How could I forget my problem when it comes to bruising!! I bruise so easily.

Just a tap, and I know that I will have a major bruise shortly. Not just a small

isolated bruise either. I saw it coming, the face would be bruised after dental

work. My face looks like I've been abused, severly! ( black eye, swollen as well

) When I had my knee replaced, Physical Therapy wouldn't touch my leg, it was

that threatening. Purple Black, the complete backside of my leg. I had it

checked out...exactly, bruising happens to us. My bruise is a visible dark

shadow, after a year. sometimes I feel a bee sting, then I look at the sight,

it's a protruding vein, soon to collapse into one ugly bruise. People bring my

bruising to my attention, cuz I don't see them, let alone feel them. My 4 year

old Grandaughter doesn't play, climb, squeeze me, for that fact. How about the

rest of you, is bruising a problem, no one has ever brought it up. Is there

bruising where the pain exist? Black and Blue Motormouth after dental work...

[Guest guest]

SOTA or Jaguar magnetic pulser reduces bruising very quickly, and like

static magnetic wound treatment, speeds healing by about four times

(visual observation on certain injuries).

One felow who had undergone liposuction that would leave the belly

black and blue for weeks, had a full recovery in just 48 hours with

no visible bruising under the magnetic pad but around it was

predictably black.

Duncan

Duncan

>

>

> > CS and aloe increase granular tissue formation, the first stage

of

> > healing, by about a factor of five. Electrical current also

speeds

> > healing a lot.

>

> Thanks Duncan. I am still using the CS and aloe. I did try Manuka

> honey last night and it did take out more of the reddish color.

>

> I will not be able to see the actual scar until the stitches are

> removed. The doc double stitched the scar (puckered the skin on

> purpose)to reduce stretching and make the scar thinner.

>

> I also have a big problem with bruising (about the size of an open

> hand including fingers). I am currently using Vit. K1 and Arnica for

> that. Let me know if you have any other suggestions.

>

> Lee

>

[Guest guest]

> SOTA or Jaguar magnetic pulser reduces bruising very quickly, and like

> static magnetic wound treatment, speeds healing by about four times

> (visual observation on certain injuries).

>

> Duncan

I have a Photon Genie. Do you think that would work in place of the

other devices you listed?

Lee

[Guest guest]

You could try a photon genie, but I had mentioned much more potent

treatment using magnetic frequencies in the ELF range that work on

bruising healing and circulation.

Short answer- no I don't think it will do anything.

Duncan

>

>

> > SOTA or Jaguar magnetic pulser reduces bruising very quickly, and

like

> > static magnetic wound treatment, speeds healing by about four times

> > (visual observation on certain injuries).

> >

> > Duncan

>

>

> I have a Photon Genie. Do you think that would work in place of the

> other devices you listed?

>

> Lee

>

[Guest guest]

My son was " off the charts " high in Vitamin C according to his

organic acid test. So, vitamin C isn't an option.

> >

> > I'm glad someone wrote in about this because I have noticed the

> same thing

> > in my daughter. She turned three about a week ago. She is

> GF/CF/SF and

> > partial Feingold. Taking a ton of supplements. And I've been

> wondering for

> > about a month now if she is bruising more easily or if it's my

> imagination.

> > Also, the bruises seem to last a long time and they're not

fading

> away. Any

> > information on this is very helpful to me also.

> >

> > Thank you!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Susye

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My twin boys have excessive bruising and the bruises stay forever. It started

showing up the first summer they could run around and play and it just got

worse. My pediatrician referred me to a specialist to see if they had a blood

disorder, or worst case scenario, cancer. That specialist sent me to a genetic

specialist (I can't remember the real titles of the specialists), who diagnosed

them with Ehler's Danlos Syndrome, a very common connective tissue disorder. By

the time they turned three years old their scars and soft skin on their shins

started tearing easily to point of needing stitches. Needless to say, we

approach our activities with caution and put protection on them (shin guards,

etc.) when necessary. This is a very common disorder to have. But so many

things could mean easy bruising . . .

Leign

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[Guest guest]

>

> Can built up toxins in the liver cause brusing? My son has never been

> a bruiser...now all of a sudden his legs are covered in them.

At my house, this was caused by vitamin C and vitamin K deficiency.

>>He is also on 1/2 tsp. cod liver oil daily which I also read

> thins the blood which can cause brusing. Anyone had this experience

> with die-off or using fish oils?

Fish oil caused nosebleeds here, until I gave it with vitamin K.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> My son was " off the charts " high in Vitamin C according to his

> organic acid test. So, vitamin C isn't an option.

This sounds like he is not properly absorbing the vitamin C. My kids

needed carnitine for proper absorption of vitamin C.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Yes, we've experienced the same thing. It's amazing how easy it is to overlook,

the same thing we complain the pharmaceutical companies do, we do as well.

Between the enzymes, and various supplements, the quantitative value of the

" blood thinners " can reach rather high levels, if you're looking at it from that

point of view. The cumulative effect still exists, and it can cause problems.

You are in good company, for us it just meant reducing the Cod Liver Oil and

reducing the number of Virastop. Bruising stopped. We also saw an increase in

moles and dark ones at that, milk thistle helped the moles go away, something

the dermatologists still don't understand.

Bruising

Can built up toxins in the liver cause brusing? My son has never been

a bruiser...now all of a sudden his legs are covered in them. I have

reduced his yeast treatment per our DAN's advice...she says the little

red bumps around his mouth are indicative of die off and that we

shouldn't be giving him as much probiotics (especially since he is

typically constipated). I read that the bruising is related to the

liver. He is also on 1/2 tsp. cod liver oil daily which I also read

thins the blood which can cause brusing. Anyone had this experience

with die-off or using fish oils?

[Guest guest]

Dana, where do you get your Vit. K? Has anyone bought it from Kirkman labs?

Re: Bruising

>

> Can built up toxins in the liver cause brusing? My son has never been

> a bruiser...now all of a sudden his legs are covered in them.

At my house, this was caused by vitamin C and vitamin K deficiency.

>>He is also on 1/2 tsp. cod liver oil daily which I also read

> thins the blood which can cause brusing. Anyone had this experience

> with die-off or using fish oils?

Fish oil caused nosebleeds here, until I gave it with vitamin K.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I personally had this problem about 3 yrs. ago. Platelet count was

down and I was sent to a blood specialist. She followed me for a

couple of years and bruising suddenly went away. She thought it could

have been caused by a virus and I think that's trues as I had been

sick a couple of months before this happened.

All this to say, it could go away on it own and hopefully it will.

Mine was so bad my husband would laugh saying people probably thought

he was beating me!

Deb