Docs can say the darndest things!

[Guest guest]

(Below are actual statements made by docs to patients who are members

of this site. If you have your own, send them to me. Janie)

1. " fT3 is not tested anymore. It's an outdated practice. "

2. " You just will need to live with it. "

3. " It's not your thyroid. You need to be on an anti-depressant. "

4. " Your tests are all normal so you are just fine. "

5. " Although you are experiencing many hypoT signs, it does not

warrant any meds " (Made in 2004 by an Endo in Houston, Texas who

thinks labwork rules over OBVIOUS symptoms!)

6. " Being hypothyroid for a few years won't do you any harm....... "

(Said by a doc who refused to prescribe Armour and didn't care how

lousy she felt on T4-only meds " .)

7). All the following courtesy of Endo's in UK, aka " Endobobbins " :

a)In answer to I'm tired: " The average person on the street is

tired "

b)After being 'stabilized' on T4 after thyroidectomy: " You're

cured now, anything else you experience, if you get depressed or

don't feel right, is nothing to do with your thyroid and must be

treated separately "

c) After telling my Endonob I was on Armour: " Aren't you afraid

of getting mad cow disease? "

8) When a gal continued to have lingering hypo issues when she wasn't

on enough Armour, the doc replied that she needed to " MOURN HER SON "

better!! (Her son had passed away in 1995)

9) Doc: I am taking you off thyroxine, there is nothing wrong with

your thyroid.

Me: But I feel so much better since I have been taking it.

Doc: If you took speed you would feel better too. (from Lynda in

the UK)

10) " Free T3 and Free T4 tests are only for patients with

hyperthyroidism. It would be UNWISE to use those tests for

someone with hypothyroidism. "

11) " It would be maltreatment to treat a TSH of 3.5. " Said by Endo

to patient whose symptoms SCREAMED hypo!

12) " T3 is a like a narcotic. If you get used to it, we will have to

wean you off of it. " Said to patient when her TSH got to .23, yet her

free T3 was low in the range.

[Guest guest]

Because we all have the camaraderie and help of people on this list I can laugh

out loud at the ridiculousness of these statements. Otherwise I would just be

too angry....and stress my adrenals more. :-)

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Docs can say the darndest things!

(Below are actual statements made by docs to patients who are members

of this site. If you have your own, send them to me. Janie)

1. " fT3 is not tested anymore. It's an outdated practice. "

2. " You just will need to live with it. "

3. " It's not your thyroid. You need to be on an anti-depressant. "

4. " Your tests are all normal so you are just fine. "

5. " Although you are experiencing many hypoT signs, it does not

warrant any meds " (Made in 2004 by an Endo in Houston, Texas who

thinks labwork rules over OBVIOUS symptoms!)

6. " Being hypothyroid for a few years won't do you any harm....... "

(Said by a doc who refused to prescribe Armour and didn't care how

lousy she felt on T4-only meds " .)

7). All the following courtesy of Endo's in UK, aka " Endobobbins " :

a)In answer to I'm tired: " The average person on the street is

tired "

b)After being 'stabilized' on T4 after thyroidectomy: " You're

cured now, anything else you experience, if you get depressed or

don't feel right, is nothing to do with your thyroid and must be

treated separately "

c) After telling my Endonob I was on Armour: " Aren't you afraid

of getting mad cow disease? "

8) When a gal continued to have lingering hypo issues when she wasn't

on enough Armour, the doc replied that she needed to " MOURN HER SON "

better!! (Her son had passed away in 1995)

9) Doc: I am taking you off thyroxine, there is nothing wrong with

your thyroid.

Me: But I feel so much better since I have been taking it.

Doc: If you took speed you would feel better too. (from Lynda in

the UK)

10) " Free T3 and Free T4 tests are only for patients with

hyperthyroidism. It would be UNWISE to use those tests for

someone with hypothyroidism. "

11) " It would be maltreatment to treat a TSH of 3.5. " Said by Endo

to patient whose symptoms SCREAMED hypo!

12) " T3 is a like a narcotic. If you get used to it, we will have to

wean you off of it. " Said to patient when her TSH got to .23, yet her

free T3 was low in the range.

[Guest guest]

I have one,

my ferritin was 20 range 10-310

and my transferrin was 239 range 250-380,

aldosterone 2.1 range 7-30 a

and hematicrit 9. range 12 plus. I was told you are fat, so they must be all

wrong even with a blood pressure of a corpse!

Docs can say the darndest things!

(Below are actual statements made by docs to patients who are members

of this site. If you have your own, send them to me. Janie)

1. " fT3 is not tested anymore. It's an outdated practice. "

2. " You just will need to live with it. "

3. " It's not your thyroid. You need to be on an anti-depressant. "

4. " Your tests are all normal so you are just fine. "

5. " Although you are experiencing many hypoT signs, it does not

warrant any meds " (Made in 2004 by an Endo in Houston, Texas who

thinks labwork rules over OBVIOUS symptoms!)

6. " Being hypothyroid for a few years won't do you any harm....... "

(Said by a doc who refused to prescribe Armour and didn't care how

lousy she felt on T4-only meds " .)

7). All the following courtesy of Endo's in UK, aka " Endobobbins " :

a)In answer to I'm tired: " The average person on the street is

tired "

b)After being 'stabilized' on T4 after thyroidectomy: " You're

cured now, anything else you experience, if you get depressed or

don't feel right, is nothing to do with your thyroid and must be

treated separately "

c) After telling my Endonob I was on Armour: " Aren't you afraid

of getting mad cow disease? "

8) When a gal continued to have lingering hypo issues when she wasn't

on enough Armour, the doc replied that she needed to " MOURN HER SON "

better!! (Her son had passed away in 1995)

9) Doc: I am taking you off thyroxine, there is nothing wrong with

your thyroid.

Me: But I feel so much better since I have been taking it.

Doc: If you took speed you would feel better too. (from Lynda in

the UK)

10) " Free T3 and Free T4 tests are only for patients with

hyperthyroidism. It would be UNWISE to use those tests for

someone with hypothyroidism. "

11) " It would be maltreatment to treat a TSH of 3.5. " Said by Endo

to patient whose symptoms SCREAMED hypo!

12) " T3 is a like a narcotic. If you get used to it, we will have to

wean you off of it. " Said to patient when her TSH got to .23, yet her

free T3 was low in the range.

[Guest guest]

He was saying that because you are fat, the labs below must be all

wrong??????

> I have one,

> my ferritin was 20 range 10-310

> and my transferrin was 239 range 250-380,

> aldosterone 2.1 range 7-30 a

> and hematicrit 9. range 12 plus. I was told you are fat, so they

must be all wrong even with a blood pressure of a corpse!

[Guest guest]

Yup

Re: Docs can say the darndest things!

He was saying that because you are fat, the labs below must be all

wrong??????

> I have one,

> my ferritin was 20 range 10-310

> and my transferrin was 239 range 250-380,

> aldosterone 2.1 range 7-30 a

> and hematicrit 9. range 12 plus. I was told you are fat, so they

must be all wrong even with a blood pressure of a corpse!

[Guest guest]

Here's one for you, Janie: D.O. in ville, FL told me, " You

have a lot of symptoms, but your TSH isn't high enough for them to be

thyroid. We'll take them one at a time as we go. "

That was said after I'd filled out a symtpoms sheet and had almost

every single thyroid symptom possible, and a 96.5* temp upon arrival

at the office.... verified by nurse who took my temp and accused me

of " drinking icewater " before I arrived at the office! What an

idiot. It was the dead of summer and the heat index was over 100*

outside. I showed up in a flannel shirt and jeans, shivering the

entire time I filled out the paperwork.

Idiots.

> (Below are actual statements made by docs to patients who are

members

[Guest guest]

have you had your ferritin tested

>

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: Re: Docs can say the darndest things!

>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:48:11 -0000

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jamy. No, I haven't. Don't have health insurance, so I've been

winging this for about a year now.

Ella

>

> have you had your ferritin tested

>

> >From: " Ella " <jalilahs_soul@y...>

> >Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

> >To: NaturalThyroidHormones

> >Subject: Re: Docs can say the darndest

things!

> >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:48:11 -0000

[Guest guest]

the signs of low ferritin and hypo are the same. Without testing the

ferritin, I would not add iron, but taking the iron because I WAS SO LOW,

made a huge difference. Like I said though, without knowing the levels, it

could harm you to take it

>

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: Re: Docs can say the darndest things!

>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:01:19 -0000

>

[Guest guest]

Yeh, that's the whole trouble with the medical world nowadays, one symptom

at a time, with oodlygobs of large pharma drugs, when it would take getting

down to the REAL thing in how long? A thyroid treatment.

Re: Docs can say the darndest things!

> Here's one for you, Janie: D.O. in ville, FL told me, " You

> have a lot of symptoms, but your TSH isn't high enough for them to be

> thyroid. We'll take them one at a time as we go. "

>

> That was said after I'd filled out a symtpoms sheet and had almost

> every single thyroid symptom possible, and a 96.5* temp upon arrival

> at the office.... verified by nurse who took my temp and accused me

> of " drinking icewater " before I arrived at the office! What an

> idiot. It was the dead of summer and the heat index was over 100*

> outside. I showed up in a flannel shirt and jeans, shivering the

> entire time I filled out the paperwork.

>

> Idiots.

[Guest guest]

Go to www.healthcheckusa.com. Get your own complete profile from the VIP

PRO PLUS II, for $112, with the About.com discount, it will be $102 around

about. This will tell you your kidney and liver functions, all your

electrolytes, all cholesterols with risk profile, red and white blood cell

counts, ferritin (not just serum iron level), Free T3, Free T4, TSH, and a

host of other things. A doctor's office has a huge markup of all these

things. This would ordinarily be around $400 or more in any doc's office.

You order it yourself, then follow the directions from there. Set up a user

profile, get your test results back within 3 days, and all this you do

yourself at the most local location nearest you. I never knew such things

existed before getting with these Groups, and it has saved my life. Plus, I

decide what tests I want run. They have made the national news because of

this. There are others, but, to me, this one is the best.

Re: Docs can say the darndest things!

> Hi, Jamy. No, I haven't. Don't have health insurance, so I've been

> winging this for about a year now.

>

> Ella

>

>

> >

> > have you had your ferritin tested

[Guest guest]

I had been on thyroid medication for 27 years when I saw this

endocrinologist. Besides trying to talk me out of Armour due to it's

" inconsistency " , he said, " We don't know for sure that you are

hypothyroid unless we take you off all medication for 6 weeks " . (He's

also the one who said a mole on my breast was a third nipple. LOL)

in Va.

(Below are actual statements made by docs to patients who are members

of this site. If you have your own, send them to me. Janie)

1. " fT3 is not tested anymore. It's an outdated practice. "

2. " You just will need to live with it. "

3. " It's not your thyroid. You need to be on an anti-depressant. "

4. " Your tests are all normal so you are just fine. "

5. " Although you are experiencing many hypoT signs, it does not

warrant any meds " (Made in 2004 by an Endo in Houston, Texas who

thinks labwork rules over OBVIOUS symptoms!)

6. " Being hypothyroid for a few years won't do you any harm....... "

(Said by a doc who refused to prescribe Armour and didn't care how

lousy she felt on T4-only meds " .)

7). All the following courtesy of Endo's in UK, aka " Endobobbins " :

a)In answer to I'm tired: " The average person on the street is

tired "

b)After being 'stabilized' on T4 after thyroidectomy: " You're

cured now, anything else you experience, if you get depressed or

don't feel right, is nothing to do with your thyroid and must be

treated separately "

c) After telling my Endonob I was on Armour: " Aren't you afraid

of getting mad cow disease? "

8) When a gal continued to have lingering hypo issues when she wasn't

on enough Armour, the doc replied that she needed to " MOURN HER SON "

better!! (Her son had passed away in 1995)

9) Doc: I am taking you off thyroxine, there is nothing wrong with

your thyroid.

Me: But I feel so much better since I have been taking it.

Doc: If you took speed you would feel better too. (from Lynda in

the UK)

10) " Free T3 and Free T4 tests are only for patients with

hyperthyroidism. It would be UNWISE to use those tests for

someone with hypothyroidism. "

11) " It would be maltreatment to treat a TSH of 3.5. " Said by Endo

to patient whose symptoms SCREAMED hypo!

12) " T3 is a like a narcotic. If you get used to it, we will have to

wean you off of it. " Said to patient when her TSH got to .23, yet her

free T3 was low in the range.

[Guest guest]

I had been on thyroid medication for 27 years when I saw this

endocrinologist. Besides trying to talk me out of Armour due to it's

" inconsistency " , he said, " We don't know for sure that you are

hypothyroid unless we take you off all medication for 6 weeks " . (He's

also the one who said a mole on my breast was a third nipple. LOL)

in Va.

(Below are actual statements made by docs to patients who are members

of this site. If you have your own, send them to me. Janie)

1. " fT3 is not tested anymore. It's an outdated practice. "

2. " You just will need to live with it. "

3. " It's not your thyroid. You need to be on an anti-depressant. "

4. " Your tests are all normal so you are just fine. "

5. " Although you are experiencing many hypoT signs, it does not

warrant any meds " (Made in 2004 by an Endo in Houston, Texas who

thinks labwork rules over OBVIOUS symptoms!)

6. " Being hypothyroid for a few years won't do you any harm....... "

(Said by a doc who refused to prescribe Armour and didn't care how

lousy she felt on T4-only meds " .)

7). All the following courtesy of Endo's in UK, aka " Endobobbins " :

a)In answer to I'm tired: " The average person on the street is

tired "

b)After being 'stabilized' on T4 after thyroidectomy: " You're

cured now, anything else you experience, if you get depressed or

don't feel right, is nothing to do with your thyroid and must be

treated separately "

c) After telling my Endonob I was on Armour: " Aren't you afraid

of getting mad cow disease? "

8) When a gal continued to have lingering hypo issues when she wasn't

on enough Armour, the doc replied that she needed to " MOURN HER SON "

better!! (Her son had passed away in 1995)

9) Doc: I am taking you off thyroxine, there is nothing wrong with

your thyroid.

Me: But I feel so much better since I have been taking it.

Doc: If you took speed you would feel better too. (from Lynda in

the UK)

10) " Free T3 and Free T4 tests are only for patients with

hyperthyroidism. It would be UNWISE to use those tests for

someone with hypothyroidism. "

11) " It would be maltreatment to treat a TSH of 3.5. " Said by Endo

to patient whose symptoms SCREAMED hypo!

12) " T3 is a like a narcotic. If you get used to it, we will have to

wean you off of it. " Said to patient when her TSH got to .23, yet her

free T3 was low in the range.

[Guest guest]

I had been on thyroid medication for 27 years when I saw this

endocrinologist. Besides trying to talk me out of Armour due to it's

" inconsistency " , he said, " We don't know for sure that you are

hypothyroid unless we take you off all medication for 6 weeks " . (He's

also the one who said a mole on my breast was a third nipple. LOL)

in Va.

(Below are actual statements made by docs to patients who are members

of this site. If you have your own, send them to me. Janie)

1. " fT3 is not tested anymore. It's an outdated practice. "

2. " You just will need to live with it. "

3. " It's not your thyroid. You need to be on an anti-depressant. "

4. " Your tests are all normal so you are just fine. "

5. " Although you are experiencing many hypoT signs, it does not

warrant any meds " (Made in 2004 by an Endo in Houston, Texas who

thinks labwork rules over OBVIOUS symptoms!)

6. " Being hypothyroid for a few years won't do you any harm....... "

(Said by a doc who refused to prescribe Armour and didn't care how

lousy she felt on T4-only meds " .)

7). All the following courtesy of Endo's in UK, aka " Endobobbins " :

a)In answer to I'm tired: " The average person on the street is

tired "

b)After being 'stabilized' on T4 after thyroidectomy: " You're

cured now, anything else you experience, if you get depressed or

don't feel right, is nothing to do with your thyroid and must be

treated separately "

c) After telling my Endonob I was on Armour: " Aren't you afraid

of getting mad cow disease? "

8) When a gal continued to have lingering hypo issues when she wasn't

on enough Armour, the doc replied that she needed to " MOURN HER SON "

better!! (Her son had passed away in 1995)

9) Doc: I am taking you off thyroxine, there is nothing wrong with

your thyroid.

Me: But I feel so much better since I have been taking it.

Doc: If you took speed you would feel better too. (from Lynda in

the UK)

10) " Free T3 and Free T4 tests are only for patients with

hyperthyroidism. It would be UNWISE to use those tests for

someone with hypothyroidism. "

11) " It would be maltreatment to treat a TSH of 3.5. " Said by Endo

to patient whose symptoms SCREAMED hypo!

12) " T3 is a like a narcotic. If you get used to it, we will have to

wean you off of it. " Said to patient when her TSH got to .23, yet her

free T3 was low in the range.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . That is now in our GIVE ME A BREAK file. And I had to

laugh that your mole is actually a " third nipple " . GIVE ME A BREAK.

LOL. Janie

> I had been on thyroid medication for 27 years when I saw this

> endocrinologist. Besides trying to talk me out of Armour due to

it's

> " inconsistency " , he said, " We don't know for sure that you are

> hypothyroid unless we take you off all medication for 6 weeks " .

(He's

> also the one who said a mole on my breast was a third nipple. LOL)

> in Va.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . That is now in our GIVE ME A BREAK file. And I had to

laugh that your mole is actually a " third nipple " . GIVE ME A BREAK.

LOL. Janie

> I had been on thyroid medication for 27 years when I saw this

> endocrinologist. Besides trying to talk me out of Armour due to

it's

> " inconsistency " , he said, " We don't know for sure that you are

> hypothyroid unless we take you off all medication for 6 weeks " .

(He's

> also the one who said a mole on my breast was a third nipple. LOL)

> in Va.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . That is now in our GIVE ME A BREAK file. And I had to

laugh that your mole is actually a " third nipple " . GIVE ME A BREAK.

LOL. Janie

> I had been on thyroid medication for 27 years when I saw this

> endocrinologist. Besides trying to talk me out of Armour due to

it's

> " inconsistency " , he said, " We don't know for sure that you are

> hypothyroid unless we take you off all medication for 6 weeks " .

(He's

> also the one who said a mole on my breast was a third nipple. LOL)

> in Va.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 8:59:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> When the one endo I saw (and the last doctor I ever saw in the last 4 to 5

> yrs) said to me " Once the thyroid fails, it never changes, " ,

My dear mother in law...whom takes an itsy bitsy teeny weeny morsel of

Synthroid (she's skinny, trembles and complains about losing her hair - was she

really hypo?)...said to my husband " her thyroid should be all regulated by now,

shouldn't it? " . I really don't have the energy to explain it to her...

cindi

[Guest guest]

When the one endo I saw (and the last doctor I ever saw in the last 4 to 5

yrs) said to me " Once the thyroid fails, it never changes, " , I was thinking

" Once the thyroid fails, EVERYthing changes. " $450 for those wise words.

RE: Docs can say the darndest things!

>

> I had been on thyroid medication for 27 years when I saw this

> endocrinologist. Besides trying to talk me out of Armour due to it's

> " inconsistency " , he said, " We don't know for sure that you are

> hypothyroid unless we take you off all medication for 6 weeks " . (He's

> also the one who said a mole on my breast was a third nipple. LOL)

> in Va.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 2:09:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I do not want to get into explaining how my hypoT treatment is different

> than her itsy bitsy teeny weeny that she has been on for 8 years

rofl...i do know the feeling...

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 2:09:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I do not want to get into explaining how my hypoT treatment is different

> than her itsy bitsy teeny weeny that she has been on for 8 years

rofl...i do know the feeling...

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 2:09:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I do not want to get into explaining how my hypoT treatment is different

> than her itsy bitsy teeny weeny that she has been on for 8 years

rofl...i do know the feeling...

cindi

[Guest guest]

Which reminds me...MIL is going to be here on the 24th, 25th, 26th....hubby

thinks she won't notice all the pills I take all day long. I think she will. I

do not want to get into explaining how my hypoT treatment is different than her

itsy bitsy teeny weeny that she has been on for 8 years. :-( I will become a

closet case for those days! :-)

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Docs can say the darndest things!

In a message dated 9/7/2004 8:59:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> When the one endo I saw (and the last doctor I ever saw in the last 4 to 5

> yrs) said to me " Once the thyroid fails, it never changes, " ,

My dear mother in law...whom takes an itsy bitsy teeny weeny morsel of

Synthroid (she's skinny, trembles and complains about losing her hair - was

she

really hypo?)...said to my husband " her thyroid should be all regulated by

now,

shouldn't it? " . I really don't have the energy to explain it to her...

cindi

[Guest guest]

Which reminds me...MIL is going to be here on the 24th, 25th, 26th....hubby

thinks she won't notice all the pills I take all day long. I think she will. I

do not want to get into explaining how my hypoT treatment is different than her

itsy bitsy teeny weeny that she has been on for 8 years. :-( I will become a

closet case for those days! :-)

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Docs can say the darndest things!

In a message dated 9/7/2004 8:59:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> When the one endo I saw (and the last doctor I ever saw in the last 4 to 5

> yrs) said to me " Once the thyroid fails, it never changes, " ,

My dear mother in law...whom takes an itsy bitsy teeny weeny morsel of

Synthroid (she's skinny, trembles and complains about losing her hair - was

she

really hypo?)...said to my husband " her thyroid should be all regulated by

now,

shouldn't it? " . I really don't have the energy to explain it to her...

cindi

[Guest guest]

Which reminds me...MIL is going to be here on the 24th, 25th, 26th....hubby

thinks she won't notice all the pills I take all day long. I think she will. I

do not want to get into explaining how my hypoT treatment is different than her

itsy bitsy teeny weeny that she has been on for 8 years. :-( I will become a

closet case for those days! :-)

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Docs can say the darndest things!

In a message dated 9/7/2004 8:59:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> When the one endo I saw (and the last doctor I ever saw in the last 4 to 5

> yrs) said to me " Once the thyroid fails, it never changes, " ,

My dear mother in law...whom takes an itsy bitsy teeny weeny morsel of

Synthroid (she's skinny, trembles and complains about losing her hair - was

she

really hypo?)...said to my husband " her thyroid should be all regulated by

now,

shouldn't it? " . I really don't have the energy to explain it to her...

cindi