Re: Thinking about wrinkles/scars/flaws

[Guest guest]

This touches on a subject we never really face head on.

How can I be attractive/sexy when I have all of these scars, or all of this

baggy skin, or these heavy thighs or whatever?

All I can say, is based on years of experience and a good number of

boyfriends, is that guys are easy.

I don't mean they're all promiscuous. What I mean is that even though I've

never been beautiful, or even " cute " I've managed to keep men interested in

me sexually. I learned fairly early on that although men like to look at

pretty ladies with perfect bodies, they also are very happy to have a

willing, responsive partner next to them who's not perfect. If your husband

did see the tape of you modeling the sexy lingerie, he wouldn't see it the

way you do. Those wrinkles and rolls might seem to fade into the background,

as he saw how eager you were to do something to please him.

Two men have seen me since the panniculectomy from hell and the surgery on my

thighs and breasts. (That's in addition to the arms and and a very long cut

up and down my belly.) I look like I've been run over by a series of dump

trucks. Guess what? Both of them responded to me sexually, and I responded

to them. They both cared a lot more about what I was whispering in their

ears, or what my body did when they touched me in the right way, than they

cared about the scars.

Of course, I went through a pretty complicated screening process before I got

to that point with either one of them. If they'd seemed shallow or stupid, I

would have sent them packing. I've always gone out with men who were a

little older than me, and maybe that helps them appreciate me more. I don't

know. Anyway, the point is that instead of looking at my flaws, they both

focused on my assets (insert your own jokes here, folks.)

Well, I guess some of my friends can " do the math " and figure out that I've

had two partners in a fairly short period of time. I have to tell all of you

that when lying in a hospital bed and wondering if I'd ever get out, I didn't

find myself thinking " God, I wish I'd changed the oil in my car more often. "

I did sometimes wish I'd had more fun, gone out with more people, seen more

things, had more experiences, etc.

- not nearly as " experienced " as this implies - really, I swear

[Guest guest]

Like I was just saying, I dont think we can get into the erotics and judge

fairly whether our bodies are desireable but we can believe our men when they

do and get into them etc.

Oh, I have the same problem, I've had some younger men come on to me and it

scares the daylights out of me cuz I KNOW whats under these clothes... I

just think they're humoring a lonely old woman! I think they can sense fear

too, and somehow I'm keeping them away. It'll take a pretty brave fellow to

scales these walls. Lord knows, it has been such a long time.

hugzzz

flo

[Guest guest]

I have to confess...my experience with men is limited. I have only had

2 boyfriends in my life, and married the second one when I was 30 and

nearly 500 lbs.

I was also a virgin on our wedding night. (Waits while everyone stands

up....lol). And from the night my hubby met me, he thought that I was

beautiful. I felt like a troll. And huge ugly troll. And he just saw

the woman that he loved.

And he still does. Sure, the weight loss has enhanced certain areas of

our relationship, but he doesn't care about the saggy butt, or sharpei

thighs, or bat wings from hell...he just loves me.

I still have a tough time understanding what he sees in me, but believe

you me...he loves all of it. And I am SO blessed to have this man...a

man whom I love..despite his faults, wrinkles, scars and flaws, too.

The saying love is blind is very true. But in more ways than one.

Blessings,

Lou

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How do you know when it's time to tune your bagpipes?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

2 Years Post Op ~ Loss: 319 Pounds!

http://www.ptl4wls.com

" I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears. Surely..I will heal

you. " 2 Kings 20:5

[Guest guest]

This is a subject that hits home hard for me...and obviously for many of us.

All I've ever wanted (all any of us really want) is to meet someone who'd love

me just as I am...fat and all. I didn't have surgery so I'd look better, but I

know I look better. I didn't have surgery so men would find more attractive,

but they do find me more attractive. I also know that part of the reason they

find me more attractive is because I'm more confident...I feel sexier; therefore

I am sexier. But flirting with someone is one thing, and getting naked with him

is something entirely different!

When I look in the mirror, it's still very difficult for me to see the changes

in my body because most of the time I still see that 458-pound woman. I don't

always see how far I've come because I'm too tuned into how far I still want to

go. It's a struggle for me to love my body, so how can I expect anyone else to

love it?

I appreciate the open honesty of you ladies. It helps SO much just knowing that

I'm not alone.

5/7/99 - 458 lbs.

Current Weight - 250 lbs.

http://hometown.aol.com/lauralee5799/index.html

I'm preparing for extended abdominoplasty (including flank excision) and

mastopexy. Initial consult with PS scheduled for January 3, 2002.

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Oh no! WE work at thinking we're OK. Even those who DO have perfect bodies

don't think so. That's our societal training--never QUITE good enough.

After all, if you ever got there, you wouldn't need to BUY anything, right?

The whole economy could collapse if women ever had any personal appearance

self-esteem. LOL!

I'm not convinced we will ever see ourselves on a daily basis as lovely,

however, I've come to grips with what I have. It's what I have, but I will

ALWAYS think it needs improvement!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

Re: Thinking about wrinkles/scars/flaws

>

> This is a subject that hits home hard for me...and obviously for many of

us. All I've ever wanted (all any of us really want) is to meet someone

who'd love me just as I am...fat and all. I didn't have surgery so I'd look

better, but I know I look better. I didn't have surgery so men would find

more attractive, but they do find me more attractive. I also know that part

of the reason they find me more attractive is because I'm more confident...I

feel sexier; therefore I am sexier. But flirting with someone is one thing,

and getting naked with him is something entirely different!

> When I look in the mirror, it's still very difficult for me to see the

changes in my body because most of the time I still see that 458-pound

woman. I don't always see how far I've come because I'm too tuned into how

far I still want to go. It's a struggle for me to love my body, so how can

I expect anyone else to love it?

> I appreciate the open honesty of you ladies. It helps SO much just knowing

that I'm not alone.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> 5/7/99 - 458 lbs.

> Current Weight - 250 lbs.

> http://hometown.aol.com/lauralee5799/index.html

>

> I'm preparing for extended abdominoplasty (including flank excision) and

mastopexy. Initial consult with PS scheduled for January 3, 2002.

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

<Like I was just saying, I don't think we can get into the erotics and judge

fairly whether our bodies are desirable but we can believe our men when they

do and get into them etc.>

Okay, have whizzed through enough posts on this topic and now feel I finally

gotta weigh in with my .02.!

Yep, there is a lot of truth in the statement earlier that guys tend to be

easy, and yes I do agree that love is

Sometimes blind on occasion - but pullleeze - beyond age 25 and with some

maturity being expected, why is

it that we all get lumped into a " category " that decides whether or not the

attractiveness of our mates/lovers/significant others is contingent on the

concept of physical desirability based on some societal projection of

attractiveness?

Here is the deal girls, listen up! Beyond the first five minutes (where

real life begins) it is about a connection with another human being for whom

exceptionally strong emotional ties of trust and intimacy, not to say

respect, admiration and genuine bonding exists that sexual attraction is

based in the main. I am an old guy LOL, I have lived long, been to the fair

and seen the elephant!

Calista Flockhart ain't good looking! Reubens knew what good

looking was/is!

Good looking and attractive is the warmth with which I see my wife hold our

child. Good looking is the concern and care I see in her eyes when someone

in her ring of care is ill or injured. Good looking is how I see her when

she is these things and so many more! Good looking is her being able to see

me as the knight on a charger in her life! I kinda like that and I kinda

like how knowing her makes me want to be a better man. That is a tad bit of

what being attractive and desirable is to me!

When the man in your life tells you that he perhaps sees you a bit less

harshly and judgmental than you see yourselves, try giving it a try to trust

him about that. It really is true yanno

Dan Slone, Surgery 5/2/2000

Consult 294, Surgery 286, Low 186, Current 201

Beginning BMI 41.7, Low 26.4, Current 28.5

[Guest guest]

<Like I was just saying, I don't think we can get into the erotics and judge

fairly whether our bodies are desirable but we can believe our men when they

do and get into them etc.>

Okay, have whizzed through enough posts on this topic and now feel I finally

gotta weigh in with my .02.!

Yep, there is a lot of truth in the statement earlier that guys tend to be

easy, and yes I do agree that love is

Sometimes blind on occasion - but pullleeze - beyond age 25 and with some

maturity being expected, why is

it that we all get lumped into a " category " that decides whether or not the

attractiveness of our mates/lovers/significant others is contingent on the

concept of physical desirability based on some societal projection of

attractiveness?

Here is the deal girls, listen up! Beyond the first five minutes (where

real life begins) it is about a connection with another human being for whom

exceptionally strong emotional ties of trust and intimacy, not to say

respect, admiration and genuine bonding exists that sexual attraction is

based in the main. I am an old guy LOL, I have lived long, been to the fair

and seen the elephant!

Calista Flockhart ain't good looking! Reubens knew what good

looking was/is!

Good looking and attractive is the warmth with which I see my wife hold our

child. Good looking is the concern and care I see in her eyes when someone

in her ring of care is ill or injured. Good looking is how I see her when

she is these things and so many more! Good looking is her being able to see

me as the knight on a charger in her life! I kinda like that and I kinda

like how knowing her makes me want to be a better man. That is a tad bit of

what being attractive and desirable is to me!

When the man in your life tells you that he perhaps sees you a bit less

harshly and judgmental than you see yourselves, try giving it a try to trust

him about that. It really is true yanno

Dan Slone, Surgery 5/2/2000

Consult 294, Surgery 286, Low 186, Current 201

Beginning BMI 41.7, Low 26.4, Current 28.5

[Guest guest]

> Yep, there is a lot of truth in the statement earlier that guys tend to be

> easy, and yes I do agree that love is

> Sometimes blind on occasion - but pullleeze - beyond age 25 and with some

> maturity being expected,

********** we always HOPE they will turn out like this

why is

> it that we all get lumped into a " category " that decides whether or not

the

> attractiveness of our mates/lovers/significant others is contingent on the

> concept of physical desirability based on some societal projection of

> attractiveness?

*********** probably the same society that tells us we are misfits if we do

not fit the mold.

>

> Here is the deal girls, listen up! Beyond the first five minutes (where

> real life begins) it is about a connection with another human being for

whom

> exceptionally strong emotional ties of trust and intimacy, not to say

> respect, admiration and genuine bonding exists that sexual attraction is

> based in the main. I am an old guy LOL, I have lived long, been to the

fair

> and seen the elephant!

>

> Calista Flockhart ain't good looking! Reubens knew what good

> looking was/is!

************** REDHEADS! Maybe we did get something right, girls?

>

> Good looking and attractive is the warmth with which I see my wife hold

our

> child. Good looking is the concern and care I see in her eyes when

someone

> in her ring of care is ill or injured. Good looking is how I see her when

> she is these things and so many more! Good looking is her being able to

see

> me as the knight on a charger in her life! I kinda like that and I kinda

> like how knowing her makes me want to be a better man. That is a tad bit

of

> what being attractive and desirable is to me!

> *************** I think some men find that an irresistible recipe. But

when they do, OUR societal training tells us it aint' so

> When the man in your life tells you that he perhaps sees you a bit less

> harshly and judgmental than you see yourselves, try giving it a try to

trust

> him about that. It really is true yanno

************ sigh, don't we just WISH?

>

>

> Dan Slone, Surgery 5/2/2000

> Consult 294, Surgery 286, Low 186, Current 201

> Beginning BMI 41.7, Low 26.4, Current 28.5

>

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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[Guest guest]

Hey grads,

Great thread on the body image issues! I don't know whether this analogy will

help anyone but for those having trouble accepting the wrinkles, scars, flaws

etc. or for those questioning that anyone else might 'settle' or be desirous of

your wrinkled self with all your 'flaws'.....

you might try an exercise called, My Body-My Castle. Unless you are in a

temporary living situation most people are settled into and pretty happy and

comfortable with their homes(otherwise they move, duh!) It doesn't matter

whether it's a palace(McMansions notwithstanding)and it doesn't have to be

perfect. In fact most homes, have a fair share of warts and wrinkles but we

love them anyway, right? We are comfortable in them and they house the 'stuff'

we treasure and the people we love. Most of us really do think our home is our

very own castle.

So if you are having trouble accepting the body you live in- try looking at the

house you live in. How did you come to accept all the flaws there? Why do you

think it's so cute and why do you enjoy stringing twinkling lights all over it

in December and barbecuing by it in the summer? And when you see that beautiful

nest at the end of a long and weary day...well how does it make you feel? Ya

gotta love it! Right? And it gives you a great big warm fuzzy, right?

The bodies we live in are pretty much the same only more so. Ya gotta love your

intricate and amazing body everyone! It's adorable, delicate and a complicated

machine. In the entire living kingdom we have the coolest and most amazing

bodies.

Cars work well for this exercise also in case you have a temporary housing

situation you dislike but a cool car! No car is perfect but many of us really

love our cars! And like an incredibly dependable car our bodies carry us safely

over many miles, absorbing all the abuse we put it through and still going.

I think of mine as a vintage Ferrari since my surgery (Probably could have

bought a used one for all the $$ I've cost my insurance company!). I've got

alot of mileage and quite a few dings. I need premium gas all the time and I

have to take myself into the shop way more often than I'd like to but what a

ride I'm gettin " ! Wheeeeeoooo! I'm flying out here!

So fly people! Get good gas and Flyyyyyyyyyy!

Carol

Shrinkin' in Philly

[Guest guest]

Dan, if my hubby was a verbose as you.... he would have his *GODDESS* naked

and in his arms daily.

Thank you for that eloquent clarification.

Hugs,

Deb

RE: Thinking about wrinkles/scars/flaws

> <Like I was just saying, I don't think we can get into the erotics and

judge

> fairly whether our bodies are desirable but we can believe our men when

they

> do and get into them etc.>

>

> Okay, have whizzed through enough posts on this topic and now feel I

finally

> gotta weigh in with my .02.!

>

> Yep, there is a lot of truth in the statement earlier that guys tend to be

> easy, and yes I do agree that love is

> Sometimes blind on occasion - but pullleeze - beyond age 25 and with some

> maturity being expected, why is

> it that we all get lumped into a " category " that decides whether or not

the

> attractiveness of our mates/lovers/significant others is contingent on the

> concept of physical desirability based on some societal projection of

> attractiveness?

>

> Here is the deal girls, listen up! Beyond the first five minutes (where

> real life begins) it is about a connection with another human being for

whom

> exceptionally strong emotional ties of trust and intimacy, not to say

> respect, admiration and genuine bonding exists that sexual attraction is

> based in the main. I am an old guy LOL, I have lived long, been to the

fair

> and seen the elephant!

>

> Calista Flockhart ain't good looking! Reubens knew what good

> looking was/is!

>

> Good looking and attractive is the warmth with which I see my wife hold

our

> child. Good looking is the concern and care I see in her eyes when

someone

> in her ring of care is ill or injured. Good looking is how I see her when

> she is these things and so many more! Good looking is her being able to

see

> me as the knight on a charger in her life! I kinda like that and I kinda

> like how knowing her makes me want to be a better man. That is a tad bit

of

> what being attractive and desirable is to me!

>

> When the man in your life tells you that he perhaps sees you a bit less

> harshly and judgmental than you see yourselves, try giving it a try to

trust

> him about that. It really is true yanno

>

>

>

> Dan Slone, Surgery 5/2/2000

> Consult 294, Surgery 286, Low 186, Current 201

> Beginning BMI 41.7, Low 26.4, Current 28.5

>

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

************** REDHEADS! Maybe we did get something right, girls?

Dang maybe I need to change colors....

[Guest guest]

Dan, now it's my turn. You are so right. My husband

met me when I was 300 lbs. He never even saw the

weight. He did get really concerned as my wt

increased over the next few years up to 463 lbs. He

never said " I want a model for a wife with a perfect

body " . In his eyes, my body was perfect but the

health issues started up. So, he supported the

decision for the surgery because he wants me around

for a little while longer.... He is my biggest

supporter, scars, saggy, baggy skin.....

Today as before, he still can't keep his hands off of

me. I am still running away sometimes though because

like a lot of women, I go through those times where I

feel unattractive.

Yep, I am gonna try seeing myself through his eyes. I

think this may help me through *those days*.\

Thanks

Rita in Vermont

it is about a connection with

> another human being for whom

> exceptionally strong emotional ties of trust and

> intimacy, not to say

> respect, admiration and genuine bonding exists that

> sexual attraction is

> based in the main. I am an old guy LOL, I have

> lived long, been to the fair

> and seen the elephant!

>

>> When the man in your life tells you that he perhaps

> sees you a bit less

> harshly and judgmental than you see yourselves, try

> giving it a try to trust

> him about that. It really is true yanno

>

>

>

> Dan Slone, Surgery 5/2/2000

> Consult 294, Surgery 286, Low 186, Current 201

> Beginning BMI 41.7, Low 26.4, Current 28.5

>

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah yeah, that's all nice but while I'm being so " lovely " I'd like

to look like Calista Flockhart. LOL

No bumps, rolls, or scars, well I don't want her chest, I want Pamela

s on Calista Flockharts body. That would be my dream, like

my previous post, we can dream, right? In the mean time the only

person other than me who sees this body better have a medical

degree. I just can't stand the thought of exposing anyone to the

horror that this " shell that houses my soul " has become. Even with

plastics it won't be pretty but I do want it to resemble normal when

wearing clothes. And that's how I will let everyone see it. Fully

clothed. I do admire those who feel the confidence to share with

their SO all the flaws they feel they have. That takes a lot of

trust and faith in the person you're with. That's a beautiful thing

and I rejoice in your good fortune to have that.

hugs,

Ramoth

> > Yep, there is a lot of truth in the statement earlier that guys

tend to be

> > easy, and yes I do agree that love is

> > Sometimes blind on occasion - but pullleeze - beyond age 25 and

with some

> > maturity being expected,

> ********** we always HOPE they will turn out like this

>

> why is

> > it that we all get lumped into a " category " that decides whether

or not

> the

> > attractiveness of our mates/lovers/significant others is

contingent on the

> > concept of physical desirability based on some societal

projection of

> > attractiveness?

> *********** probably the same society that tells us we are misfits

if we do

> not fit the mold.

> >

> > Here is the deal girls, listen up! Beyond the first five minutes

(where

> > real life begins) it is about a connection with another human

being for

> whom

> > exceptionally strong emotional ties of trust and intimacy, not to

say

> > respect, admiration and genuine bonding exists that sexual

attraction is

> > based in the main. I am an old guy LOL, I have lived long, been

to the

> fair

> > and seen the elephant!

> >

> > Calista Flockhart ain't good looking! Reubens knew

what good

> > looking was/is!

> ************** REDHEADS! Maybe we did get something right, girls?

> >

> > Good looking and attractive is the warmth with which I see my

wife hold

> our

> > child. Good looking is the concern and care I see in her eyes

when

> someone

> > in her ring of care is ill or injured. Good looking is how I see

her when

> > she is these things and so many more! Good looking is her being

able to

> see

> > me as the knight on a charger in her life! I kinda like that and

I kinda

> > like how knowing her makes me want to be a better man. That is a

tad bit

> of

> > what being attractive and desirable is to me!

> > *************** I think some men find that an irresistible

recipe. But

> when they do, OUR societal training tells us it aint' so

>

> > When the man in your life tells you that he perhaps sees you a

bit less

> > harshly and judgmental than you see yourselves, try giving it a

try to

> trust

> > him about that. It really is true yanno

> ************ sigh, don't we just WISH?

> >

> >

> > Dan Slone, Surgery 5/2/2000

> > Consult 294, Surgery 286, Low 186, Current 201

> > Beginning BMI 41.7, Low 26.4, Current 28.5

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

OMG, I hate my house too! Never really liked it but needed a place

to live. I only stay here cuz it'd be a pain to try to sell it.

Does that say something deeper? How funny. I just keep what I got

cuz I have to. House, car, husband, body. Good thing I'm in

counseling this may be a trend. haha

hugs,

Ramoth

> Hey grads,

> Great thread on the body image issues! I don't know whether this

analogy will help anyone but for those having trouble accepting the

wrinkles, scars, flaws etc. or for those questioning that anyone else

might 'settle' or be desirous of your wrinkled self with all

your 'flaws'.....

> you might try an exercise called, My Body-My Castle. Unless you

are in a temporary living situation most people are settled into and

pretty happy and comfortable with their homes(otherwise they move,

duh!) It doesn't matter whether it's a palace(McMansions

notwithstanding)and it doesn't have to be perfect. In fact most

homes, have a fair share of warts and wrinkles but we love them

anyway, right? We are comfortable in them and they house the 'stuff'

we treasure and the people we love. Most of us really do think our

home is our very own castle.

> So if you are having trouble accepting the body you live in- try

looking at the house you live in. How did you come to accept all the

flaws there? Why do you think it's so cute and why do you enjoy

stringing twinkling lights all over it in December and barbecuing by

it in the summer? And when you see that beautiful nest at the end of

a long and weary day...well how does it make you feel? Ya gotta love

it! Right? And it gives you a great big warm fuzzy, right?

> The bodies we live in are pretty much the same only more so. Ya

gotta love your intricate and amazing body everyone! It's adorable,

delicate and a complicated machine. In the entire living kingdom we

have the coolest and most amazing bodies.

> Cars work well for this exercise also in case you have a temporary

housing situation you dislike but a cool car! No car is perfect but

many of us really love our cars! And like an incredibly dependable

car our bodies carry us safely over many miles, absorbing all the

abuse we put it through and still going.

>

> I think of mine as a vintage Ferrari since my surgery (Probably

could have bought a used one for all the $$ I've cost my insurance

company!). I've got alot of mileage and quite a few dings. I need

premium gas all the time and I have to take myself into the shop way

more often than I'd like to but what a ride I'm gettin " !

Wheeeeeoooo! I'm flying out here!

> So fly people! Get good gas and Flyyyyyyyyyy!

> Carol

> Shrinkin' in Philly

[Guest guest]

> No bumps, rolls, or scars, well I don't want her chest, I want Pamela

> s on Calista Flockharts body.

Now THAT is a SCARY mental image!!!

You would fall FORWARD all the time!!!!

=o)

Blessings,

Lou

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Make God laugh - plan for the future.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

2 Years Post Op ~ Loss: 319 Pounds!

http://www.ptl4wls.com

" I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears. Surely..I will heal you. "

2 Kings 20:5

[Guest guest]

AWWWWWW Dan, You said it just like my has been telling me. That it

isn't the OUTSIDE package that counts, but that which resides in my heart.

It is so hard to trust....... believe me...... he has worked HARD and long

on this trust issue with me. For me he is my knight in shinning armor, my

soul mate, the love of my life. I am soooooo lucky to have found him at a

time when I didn't think I could ever love or trust any man again. Thank you

for being so eloquent and reminding us that you, " can't judge a book by its

cover. "

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

starting weight 320

lowest weight 200

current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

original by-pass 70cm

revision to 170cm

[Guest guest]

Yes, that was eloquence in itself. I showed it to Don and said, Is this how

you think? He wrote me a lovely note back.

Thanks for causing ripples of happiness!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

RE: Thinking about wrinkles/scars/flaws

>

> AWWWWWW Dan, You said it just like my has been telling me. That it

> isn't the OUTSIDE package that counts, but that which resides in my heart.

> It is so hard to trust....... believe me...... he has worked HARD and long

> on this trust issue with me. For me he is my knight in shinning armor, my

> soul mate, the love of my life. I am soooooo lucky to have found him at a

> time when I didn't think I could ever love or trust any man again. Thank

you

> for being so eloquent and reminding us that you, " can't judge a book by

its

> cover. "

>

> Debbie in Gig Harbor

> Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

> and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

> starting weight 320

> lowest weight 200

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Dan, What great comments!

OKAY, Gals and Guys, listen up: WHAT DAN said is so true! True love does not

see the weight.

I met my hubby when I weighed ~165 when we got married I was 180. And it kept

climbing: 20 more before I got pregnant, 50 during the pregnancy, etc. We all

know THAT story. Any way, I eventually got up to 350. As was the case with

Rita, my hubby has been my greatest supporter of my WLS and subsequent loss.

I had a family picture taken in July 98 (9 months before WLS) when I was

about at my highest weight. looks at that portrait and says he

doesn't believe I was ever THAT big. Bless his soul!

Also like Rita, " he...can't keep his hands off of me. I am still running away

sometimes though because like a lot of women, I go through those times where

I, " er, ...have a " headache. " ;^)

In Charlottesville, VA

Roux-en-Y with Gall Bladder Removal: March 31, 1999, 318 lb.

July 26, 2001 -- 194

5'6.5 "

[Guest guest]

Dan, What great comments!

OKAY, Gals and Guys, listen up: WHAT DAN said is so true! True love does not

see the weight.

I met my hubby when I weighed ~165 when we got married I was 180. And it kept

climbing: 20 more before I got pregnant, 50 during the pregnancy, etc. We all

know THAT story. Any way, I eventually got up to 350. As was the case with

Rita, my hubby has been my greatest supporter of my WLS and subsequent loss.

I had a family picture taken in July 98 (9 months before WLS) when I was

about at my highest weight. looks at that portrait and says he

doesn't believe I was ever THAT big. Bless his soul!

Also like Rita, " he...can't keep his hands off of me. I am still running away

sometimes though because like a lot of women, I go through those times where

I, " er, ...have a " headache. " ;^)

In Charlottesville, VA

Roux-en-Y with Gall Bladder Removal: March 31, 1999, 318 lb.

July 26, 2001 -- 194

5'6.5 "

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<<I learned fairly early on that although men like to look at

pretty ladies with perfect bodies, they also are very happy to have a

willing, responsive partner next to them who's not perfect.

I look like I've been run over by a series of dump trucks. Guess what?

Both of them responded to me sexually, and I responded to them. They both

cared a lot more about what I was whispering in their ears, or what my body

did when they touched me in the right way, than they cared about the

scars.>>

You said this beautifully! I showed this post to my husband and he couldn't

have agreed more. It just kills me to see women suffering over body image

issues when what their men really want has precious little to do with the

appearance of their skin.

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I am going to try to memorize this.

when what their men really want has precious little to do with the

> appearance of their skin

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

Re: Thinking about wrinkles/scars/flaws

> <<I learned fairly early on that although men like to look at

> pretty ladies with perfect bodies, they also are very happy to have a

> willing, responsive partner next to them who's not perfect.

>

> I look like I've been run over by a series of dump trucks. Guess what?

> Both of them responded to me sexually, and I responded to them. They both

> cared a lot more about what I was whispering in their ears, or what my

body

> did when they touched me in the right way, than they cared about the

> scars.>>

>

> You said this beautifully! I showed this post to my husband and he

couldn't

> have agreed more. It just kills me to see women suffering over body image

> issues when what their men really want has precious little to do with the

> appearance of their skin.

>

> A. in Indy

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I am going to try to memorize this.

when what their men really want has precious little to do with the

> appearance of their skin

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

Re: Thinking about wrinkles/scars/flaws

> <<I learned fairly early on that although men like to look at

> pretty ladies with perfect bodies, they also are very happy to have a

> willing, responsive partner next to them who's not perfect.

>

> I look like I've been run over by a series of dump trucks. Guess what?

> Both of them responded to me sexually, and I responded to them. They both

> cared a lot more about what I was whispering in their ears, or what my

body

> did when they touched me in the right way, than they cared about the

> scars.>>

>

> You said this beautifully! I showed this post to my husband and he

couldn't

> have agreed more. It just kills me to see women suffering over body image

> issues when what their men really want has precious little to do with the

> appearance of their skin.

>

> A. in Indy

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As long as the headaches do not last over a couple of days!

Dennis

Taggie@... wrote:

> Dan, What great comments!

>

> OKAY, Gals and Guys, listen up: WHAT DAN said is so true! True love does not

> see the weight.

>

> I met my hubby when I weighed ~165 when we got married I was 180. And it kept

> climbing: 20 more before I got pregnant, 50 during the pregnancy, etc. We all

> know THAT story. Any way, I eventually got up to 350. As was the case with

> Rita, my hubby has been my greatest supporter of my WLS and subsequent loss.

> I had a family picture taken in July 98 (9 months before WLS) when I was

> about at my highest weight. looks at that portrait and says he

> doesn't believe I was ever THAT big. Bless his soul!

>

> Also like Rita, " he...can't keep his hands off of me. I am still running away

> sometimes though because like a lot of women, I go through those times where

> I, " er, ...have a " headache. " ;^)

>

> In Charlottesville, VA

> Roux-en-Y with Gall Bladder Removal: March 31, 1999, 318 lb.

> July 26, 2001 -- 194

> 5'6.5 "

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Mine lasted for a whole week once....

:-)

Deb

Re: Thinking about wrinkles/scars/flaws

> As long as the headaches do not last over a couple of days!

>

> Dennis

>

> Taggie@... wrote:

>

> > Dan, What great comments!

> >

> > OKAY, Gals and Guys, listen up: WHAT DAN said is so true! True love does

not

> > see the weight.

> >

> > I met my hubby when I weighed ~165 when we got married I was 180. And it

kept

> > climbing: 20 more before I got pregnant, 50 during the pregnancy, etc.

We all

> > know THAT story. Any way, I eventually got up to 350. As was the case

with

> > Rita, my hubby has been my greatest supporter of my WLS and subsequent

loss.

> > I had a family picture taken in July 98 (9 months before WLS) when I was

> > about at my highest weight. looks at that portrait and says he

> > doesn't believe I was ever THAT big. Bless his soul!

> >

> > Also like Rita, " he...can't keep his hands off of me. I am still running

away

> > sometimes though because like a lot of women, I go through those times

where

> > I, " er, ...have a " headache. " ;^)

> >

> > In Charlottesville, VA

> > Roux-en-Y with Gall Bladder Removal: March 31, 1999, 318 lb.

> > July 26, 2001 -- 194

> > 5'6.5 "

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Mine lasted for a whole week once....

:-)

Deb

Re: Thinking about wrinkles/scars/flaws

> As long as the headaches do not last over a couple of days!

>

> Dennis

>

> Taggie@... wrote:

>

> > Dan, What great comments!

> >

> > OKAY, Gals and Guys, listen up: WHAT DAN said is so true! True love does

not

> > see the weight.

> >

> > I met my hubby when I weighed ~165 when we got married I was 180. And it

kept

> > climbing: 20 more before I got pregnant, 50 during the pregnancy, etc.

We all

> > know THAT story. Any way, I eventually got up to 350. As was the case

with

> > Rita, my hubby has been my greatest supporter of my WLS and subsequent

loss.

> > I had a family picture taken in July 98 (9 months before WLS) when I was

> > about at my highest weight. looks at that portrait and says he

> > doesn't believe I was ever THAT big. Bless his soul!

> >

> > Also like Rita, " he...can't keep his hands off of me. I am still running

away

> > sometimes though because like a lot of women, I go through those times

where

> > I, " er, ...have a " headache. " ;^)

> >

> > In Charlottesville, VA

> > Roux-en-Y with Gall Bladder Removal: March 31, 1999, 318 lb.

> > July 26, 2001 -- 194

> > 5'6.5 "

> >

> >