Re: Vinegar helps bg's

[Guest guest]

Cappie,

This is very interesting!!!

So now a ?

Which do you think is better,the vinegar,chromium,or the cinnamon?

Or would, you use all 3 together.

I fill empty capsules ,with cinnamon,it's much cheaper,do you think I could do

the same with the vinegar.

I'm a little concerned as ,to if all this would interact with medications ,as

I'm on lots of stuff, for different things.

Thanks for sharing this info,it is appreciated.

I'm always looking for ways to inprove the Blood Sugars & to lose weight as

well.

55 /diagnosed 1979/type 2/insulin dependant/Humolog/NPH/Diamicron MR/Cinnamon

capsules/present weight 253.4

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cappie for the info. I think it would not be so bad if in a big glass of

water.

I assume they are talking about the cider vinager you can get easily in the

store?

Lou

cappie@... wrote:

>

> A Spoonful of Vinegar Helps the Sugar Go Down

> Date: Tuesday, February 08 @ 14:57:23 EST

> Topic: DIC Newsletter Issue 246

>

>

[Guest guest]

They also mentioned pickles. Now, I used to eat a lot of pickles, but

once I left the east coast found it very hard to find a decent pickle

and other pickled products. I have a friend who drinks the pickle

juice; perhaps her body was telling her something.

I think I am going to add back some pickles, particularly at night. For

me this will be the most palatable way of getting vinegar.

Helen

[Guest guest]

I find that pickle relish goes well with bland food, especially meat and

veggies. Also you can use vinegar as the base of salad dressing. Evidently,

you don't need much for the benefit.

Charlie

Re: Vinegar helps bg's

They also mentioned pickles. Now, I used to eat a lot of pickles, but

once I left the east coast found it very hard to find a decent pickle

and other pickled products. I have a friend who drinks the pickle

juice; perhaps her body was telling her something.

I think I am going to add back some pickles, particularly at night. For

me this will be the most palatable way of getting vinegar.

Helen

[Guest guest]

I don't think the kind of vinegar matters.

I love pickles & eat them whenever I want right out of the jar one after

the other, Now I won't feel bad about it.

My youngest grandaughter is the same way & once ate a whole jar of

pickles while visiting over a weekend when she was only 6.

I also love tangy food & often put vinegar on fish when cooking it & of

course I marinate a lot of veggies overnight to serve as low cal/good

for me munchies. I've always preferred tangy (but not sour or bitter)

rather than sweet tastes. I even put vinegar on spaghetti squash when

using it with sauce because it has too sweet a taste for me.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

Helen what kind of pickles do they have on the east coast and not on the west?

Just wondering.

Jan

[Guest guest]

At 01:20 PM 2/9/05, ml wrote:

>Thanks Cappie for the info. I think it would not be so bad if in a big

>glass of water.

>I assume they are talking about the cider vinager you can get easily in

>the store?

>Lou

I read something about the vinegar thing and it did mention that balsamic

vinegar wouldn't work well because it's sweeter and not as acid. I guess

that things like sweet rice vinegar would also be out for the same reason.

I tried some vinegar today and let me tell you, you just can't drink even a

couple of tablespoons of it straight. eee-YUCK. I tried adding some water

but it was still pretty awful. I wonder if lots of water and a little bit

of splenda would work. I used to hear of something like that as a fake

lemonade. I tried a dill pickle with lunch but I'm not at all sure it it

has two Tsp. worth of vinegar in it.

- sky -

I base most of my fashion

taste on what doesn't itch.

http://www.skydancers.com

http://www.skydor.com

[Guest guest]

ML: oh yeah NOT sweet pickles :<)

(I hate those anyway & never have eaten them)

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

PS: I used to use pickle juice for potato salad but it makes a nice

brine for pickling cauliflower or similar veggies too.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

Sky: yeah Balsamic has sugar in it but so what--it is a minute amount

when using it on salad or veggies. I usually use a combination of red

wine & then some balsamic when making a dressing or marinade. I also

use sherry wine vinegar, rasberry, champagne white, etc etc. They alll

add lots of flavor to different foods -- I let my imagination be my

guide.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

Jan, it is still possible to get barrel pickles in NY and NJ. In fact,

if I am lucky my sister will arrange for a shipment today for my belated

Christmas present. I also like the Batampte brand of pickles which I

used to get at Whole Foods in Cupertino. But they don't have them any

more. They also make a wonderful sauerkraut that does not taste like it

has come out of a can. I guess you might say the cabbage is pickled

rather than fermented.

The pickles here, even the national brands, have too much dill for my

taste and there is way too much salt. I like the Cascadian no salt

pickles; however they are very expensive and hard to find.

With the low carbs, low calories, and high crunch I find they are an

ideal food for this diabetic. And now, having the benefits of vinegar

brought to my attention again, they are more desirable.

Helen

[Guest guest]

Hi y'all,

Having made pickles on occasion (I have a great recipe for

refrigerator pickles!), I know that brine is really SALTY. Vinegar

may be great, but if you overdo the salt, you might risk raising your

blood pressure and harming your kidneys. Moderation...

Dori

[Guest guest]

I am not too sure of the pickling process; however cucumbers are a very

wet vegetable. If the salt brine draws out some of this liquid, it

could be that the vinegar replaces it.

Places I have used vinegar - soups, salads, stews, raw veggies dropped

into leftover pickle juice. Then there is drinking it from the pickle

jar. I am trying to use a green food which tastes like all the bad

parts of spinach and other greens (I am not fond of greens and usually

sneak them in), maybe I will try mixing it with some pickle juice and

water. Two benefits with one swallow?

Helen

[Guest guest]

Well thanks for the kind words but everything I know I've read or

learned here from other list members who are FAR more experienced than

I.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

I remember when I was very small little girl. Many many years ago the barrel

with the pickles. I vaguely remember paying a nickle for one. I loved them.

thanks for that memory Helen.

Jan

[Guest guest]

I know some here are very educated and experienced but you have a way of

expressing

things that I can relate to. I appreciate all your posts and I would buy your

book too.

Also others.

Lou

cappie@... wrote:

>

> Well thanks for the kind words but everything I know I've read or

> learned here from other list members who are FAR more experienced than

> I.

>

> cappie

> Greater Boston Area

> T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

> 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 04:34 PM 2/9/05, cappie@... wrote:

>Sky: yeah Balsamic has sugar in it but so what--it is a minute amount

>when using it on salad or veggies. I usually use a combination of red

>wine & then some balsamic when making a dressing or marinade. I also

>use sherry wine vinegar, rasberry, champagne white, etc etc. They alll

>add lots of flavor to different foods -- I let my imagination be my

>guide.

I was thinking more of the acidic content than anything else. I use

balsamic vinegar, too, though my favorite dressing is extra virgin olive

oil and lemon juice. I just don't always have fresh lemons around.

sky

[Guest guest]

Helen - I get the BaTempte Garlic Dills and also the Deli spears - fantastic -

do you have Boar's Head cold cuts on the West Coast? They also have a fresh

pickle that they have in jars at the deli counter. I can also get red cabbage

and sauerkraut i n jars from Germany. I would suggest the internet to find some

good stuff maybe from the midwest -

Barb in NH

Re: Vinegar helps bg's

Jan, it is still possible to get barrel pickles in NY and NJ. In fact,

if I am lucky my sister will arrange for a shipment today for my belated

Christmas present. I also like the Batampte brand of pickles which I

used to get at Whole Foods in Cupertino. But they don't have them any

more. They also make a wonderful sauerkraut that does not taste like it

has come out of a can. I guess you might say the cabbage is pickled

rather than fermented.

[Guest guest]

Hi, I just joined the group......

My name is Ruby, live in Texas. I have had diabetes for 2 1/2 yrs. I

take meds.. but have a problem with BS being high when I get up in the

morning... I dont know how to kepp it lower at nite... any ideas would

be helpful. I just read about the vinegar and since I love it I will be

trying it..... Thanks

[Guest guest]

Sky: Minute Maid bottles a frozen fresh lemon juice -- comes in a

tallish yellow plastic squeeze bottle in the frozen section of your

grocery. It is NOT lemon juice for drinking. I keep it on hand all the

time just for cooking & salad dressing. Well worth the hunt to find it.

Yeah the acidic content is why I mix the red wine vinegar with the

balsamic when using it for a dressing. When using it just for flavoring

such as in a tomato sauce, I don't.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

I take both cinnamon at breakfast in my drink -- I take Biotin &

Chromium P later in the day with my Alpha Lipoic Acid/Evening Primrose

Oil. I don't think I will take to drinking vinegar as I already use

it in cooking enough.

I think the vinegar would disolve those gelatin capsules in any event.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

Salt in only harmful to those who are sensitive to it. Evidently I am

not as I use it all the time. My bp with one 10 mg of Enalapril is

usually less than 100 over 65 to 80.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

Thanks but I think I will leave the book writting to our esteemed

Gretchen Becker who has said most of what I do in her book Tyoe 2: The

First Year.

As far as the weight goes, I am glad I have been able to take it off.

Just like CJ, I didn't set out to do that, it just happened while

getting my bg's under control (had to stop eating all those carby foods

which I loved LOL). Then I discovered that the loss, contrary to what

the so called " experts " said, didn't make one darn bit of difference to

my diabetes or its control

Still it is nice to be a fairly " normal " size now & be able to shop

where I want & be able to feel more stylish again. I am physically

more comfortable, my bp is normal & I don't need strong pain meds for my

arthrits anymore. All in all, I consider it a good " swap " for the

loss of those starches!

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

1/05:145 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

[Guest guest]

At 10:19 AM 2/9/05, wrote:

>I fill empty capsules ,with cinnamon

Where do you get the empty capsules?

sky

I try to take things one day at a time, but

sometimes several days attack me at once.

http://www.skydancers.com

http://www.skydor.com

[Guest guest]

At 03:41 AM 2/10/05, cappie@... wrote:

>Sky: Minute Maid bottles a frozen fresh lemon juice -- comes in a

>tallish yellow plastic squeeze bottle in the frozen section of your

>grocery. It is NOT lemon juice for drinking. I keep it on hand all the

>time just for cooking & salad dressing. Well worth the hunt to find it.

Why isn't it for drinking? Or are you saying it's not pre-sweetened

lemonade sort of stuff? I used to buy bottled lemon juice but didn't like

all of the preservatives in it. I'll take a look for the fresh juice you

mention.

-=sky=-

Type 2 dx'd 9/04. Last A1C: 5.8

Low Carb, Metaformin XR (1500mg).

Other Meds: Hydrochlorothiazide,

Lipitor, Cozaar, Synthroid, Toprol,

Supplements: B50, CoQ10, Omega 3,

L-Arginine.