Re: Re: Re: Digest Number 2608, Use of Enbrel

[Guest guest]

Hi Geoff,

Have you read this article on

Bromelain...very interesting

www.thorne.com.altmedrev/fulltext/bromelain1-4.html

Also...the other day the orther Jeff

emailed something about the results of

the testing being done with bovine

collagen for SD.It did not come through

however.Do you know anything.After 4

years on assorted forms of AP my SD is

getting worse not better and anything at

this point looks better than large doses

of MTX. Lynne

[Guest guest]

Geoff,

Do we need to set up and agree to house rules to remove certain types of

treatment from discussion?

The following is the description of rheumatic as stated on

the page

rheumatic/

" Description: Discussion on the use of long term low dosage of antibiotics

for the treatment of auto-immune diseases such as Scleroderma, Lupus,

Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA), Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis, Polymyositis,

Dermatomyositis, Psoriatic Arthritis, Ankylosing Spondylitis, and Reiter's

Syndrome. "

I think that " low dosage of antibiotics for treatment of auto-immune

diseases " is too narrow a topic to provide a full picture.

Regards, Harald

At 11:10 AM 9/14/2004 -0700, you wrote:

>Harald,

>

>You wrote:

> > I think that this group should be more than a cheering section for the AP.

> > We should be open to discuss any drug related to RA and to other diseases

> > with related symptoms. I would not want to censor out any drug, even

> > Enbrel.

>

>It's just the " House Rules " . You want to play poker, you don't go to a

>church. You want to sing hymns, you don't go to a strip joint. Ethel &

>setup the House and they make the House Rules. If we need something

>else, we go someplace else. There are lots of Houses out there with info on

>rheumatic diseases.

>

>Geoff

>soli Deo gloria

[Guest guest]

Then start your own group.

Peyton

----- Original Message -----

From: " Harald Weiss, Technical Marketing Group " <hweiss@...>

>

> I think that " low dosage of antibiotics for treatment of auto-immune

> diseases " is too narrow a topic to provide a full picture.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> BTW, are you still using bromelain and if so, how has it worked out for

you?

>

> Geoff

>

I posted this when I first learned of it, but it is worth repeating.

Bromelain causes minocycline to be excreted from the body much more quickly

and therefore does not seem to be a good choice to use if you're on the AP.

This information came from the reference book of a pharmacist.