Poikiloderma of Civatte

[Guest guest]

I don't have this, but I wonder if it's the kind of thing you can cover up?

Do you think face powder would help, or a self tanner?

Do you get teased?

[Guest guest]

Uh, oh -- I have it, too! Oh, boy, I never miss anything that comes around!

HA! I am having my first PhotoFacial tomorrow morning -- they plan to do my

neck and upper chest, in addition to my face to counteract the " red neck "

effect (mine is more brownish, but there you go....) Will let everybody know

how it all goes... hope it works, it really hit my little pocketbook hard,

but would be worth it if I see an improvement!

[Guest guest]

Carolyn you are a pissa. I sometimes find this skin condition very amusing

too.

Noreen

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Ups!!! I can just imagine everyone jumping up from their computers to look at

their necks in the mirror. Didn't mean to do that; IM not an alarmist, just

curious. Sorry Carolyn! :) I didn't even know it had a name, I was sitting

in the exam room at the Derms office, he walked in looked right at me and

without hesitation said " your of Irish decent or somewhere around northern

Europe aren't you " You are correct sir!!!:)Then he said you have cea and

Poikiloderma of Civatte WOW!!!!! and here I thought I was slowly turning red

from being possessed by satin! Causing me to go insane. In a way that was the

best worst news I ever got. That was a little over two years ago, since then

I've had 6 photoderm treatments and all the usual meds,and lifestyle changes,

on a scale of 1to10 my improvement is just creeping over a 5. For what its

worth the following is all that is known about P-C.

Poikiloderma of Civatte

Civatte was a French dermatologist who first described a common weathering

change which affects the skin of the sides and front of the neck sometimes

involving the upper chest.

P-C characteristically spares the shaded area under the chin. The skin in the

affected skin is red-brown with prominent hair follicles. The term

" poikiloderma " refers to a change in the skin where there is thinning,

increased pigmentation and dilation of the fine blood vessels(telangiectasia).

CAUSE

The exact cause is unknown. Contributing factors are.

Fair skin

Accumulated sun exposure

Photosensitizing components of cosmetics and toiletries especially perfumes

Hormonal factors

TREATMENTS

The results of treatments are dissapointing.(this was published pre-photoderm)

Sun protection SPF 30+ sunscreen

Avoid all perfumes on or near the affected area including those in soaps

Fading creams

Exfoliants including long term use of alpha hydroxide-acids

Pulse-dye laser treatments

*Photoderm treatments

*I added that from personal experience

I know we don't need more to worry about, but knowledge is power and the more

we know the better we can fight back! Again I didn't mean to alarm anyone,

but if you have it you have it, there are things you can do to improve

things. Tim

[Guest guest]

Anyone heard of it? Anyone have it?Poikloderma of Civatte(p-c)simply

means a red neck,sometimes red-brow involving the upper chest also, but

not the shaded area under the chin.Sometimes refered to as a farmers

tan or v-neck.I have it in addition to the cea ,in fact they were

diagnosed at the same time.Its not vascular its more in the

dermus,definatly perminant.The only thing that has helped it so far is

photoderm treatments.Just curious,anyone else have it? Tim

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Hello all....

After reading Tim's e-mail I immediately ran to the mirror to check

the condition of my neck....lo and behold, I am also red in the neck!

(redneck?) Big white V in the throat area...reddish tan on the

sides...so now I have something else to dwell on. (thanks to my good

buddy Tim!) Since I never linger in the sun, I can't blame it

on exposure...I attempted to cover the area with make up making the

white V part tan, and the red part...well...let's say, very abnormal

looking with make up. You'll have to pardon me folks, I'm having a

glass of wine and finding this redneck thing very humorous..I was

cracking up while looking in the mirror trying to make myself look

" normal " in the face AND neck area...I just love a challenge!

*WHEW*

Carolyn

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> glass of wine and finding this redneck thing very humorous..

I used to tell redneck jokes all the time during my misspent youth in South

Carolina. I've thought about that many times during the last few years.

Seems kind of ironic now...

Jim

Re: Poikiloderma of Civatte

> Hello all....

>

> After reading Tim's e-mail I immediately ran to the mirror to check

> the condition of my neck....lo and behold, I am also red in the neck!

> (redneck?) Big white V in the throat area...reddish tan on the

> sides...so now I have something else to dwell on. (thanks to my good

> buddy Tim!) Since I never linger in the sun, I can't blame it

> on exposure...I attempted to cover the area with make up making the

> white V part tan, and the red part...well...let's say, very abnormal

> looking with make up. You'll have to pardon me folks, I'm having a

> glass of wine and finding this redneck thing very humorous..I was

> cracking up while looking in the mirror trying to make myself look

> " normal " in the face AND neck area...I just love a challenge!

>

> *WHEW*

>

> Carolyn

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>

[Guest guest]

Don't apologize Tim, I haven't had that good of a laugh in a long

time! I am the alarmist here... You know how the brain works, it

said " OH NO!! NOW WHAT HAVE I GOT!!?? " LOLOLOL " I CAN'T EVEN

PRONOUNCE THIS ONE!! " I can laugh because I wasn't aware I had

another " condition " ....since it does't hurt and there are no bumps or

itching, I don't mind....but if you find anything else wrong, don't

tell me! I am a skin hypochondriac now (uh oh..more Serzone?).

*still smiling*

Carolyn

--- TEH825@... wrote:

> Ups!!! I can just imagine everyone jumping up from their computers

> to look at

> their necks in the mirror. Didn't mean to do that; IM not an

> alarmist, just

> curious. Sorry Carolyn! :) I didn't even know it had a name, I

> was sitting

> in the exam room at the Derms office, he walked in looked right at

> me and

> without hesitation said " your of Irish decent or somewhere around

> northern

> Europe aren't you " You are correct sir!!!:)Then he said you have

> cea and

> Poikiloderma of Civatte WOW!!!!! and here I thought I was slowly

> turning red

> from being possessed by satin! Causing me to go insane. In a way

> that was the

> best worst news I ever got. That was a little over two years ago,

> since then

> I've had 6 photoderm treatments and all the usual meds,and

> lifestyle changes,

> on a scale of 1to10 my improvement is just creeping over a 5. For

> what its

> worth the following is all that is known about P-C.

>

> Poikiloderma of Civatte

> Civatte was a French dermatologist who first described a common

> weathering

> change which affects the skin of the sides and front of the neck

> sometimes

> involving the upper chest.

> P-C characteristically spares the shaded area under the chin. The

> skin in the

> affected skin is red-brown with prominent hair follicles. The term

> " poikiloderma " refers to a change in the skin where there is

> thinning,

> increased pigmentation and dilation of the fine blood

> vessels(telangiectasia).

>

> CAUSE

> The exact cause is unknown. Contributing factors are.

> Fair skin

> Accumulated sun exposure

> Photosensitizing components of cosmetics and toiletries especially

> perfumes

> Hormonal factors

>

> TREATMENTS

> The results of treatments are dissapointing.(this was published

> pre-photoderm)

> Sun protection SPF 30+ sunscreen

> Avoid all perfumes on or near the affected area including those in

> soaps

> Fading creams

> Exfoliants including long term use of alpha hydroxide-acids

> Pulse-dye laser treatments

> *Photoderm treatments

> *I added that from personal experience

>

> I know we don't need more to worry about, but knowledge is power

> and the more

> we know the better we can fight back! Again I didn't mean to alarm

> anyone,

> but if you have it you have it, there are things you can do to

> improve

> things. Tim

>

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