Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Vicky, I can only offer my experience of terrible diarrhea with my son when he eats dairy. Perhaps you can do without the goat yogurt for a week or two. I think you can use the probiotics without yogurt. My son eats meat (burgers), few vegetables and few fruits. He has just graduated to eggs. I've tried nuts a couple times and he is quite unready for those. He is also salicylate sensitive which eliminates more possibilities. However, he is getting his vitamins and his gut is healing. I can tell in so many areas. For me, this really restricted diet is temporary and necessary for healing. Can your son take the turkey soup? Helen, mom to (9, ASD, SCD 4/04) > I have not been on this site for a while. I have been putting my > energy towards finding a job to replace that which I lost. But now > I'm having lots of problems with my son. > > 1. He is still SCD compliant, however, he is having diarrhea and > some blood in his stools and sore bottom issues. Could this be a > sulfur issue? > > Homemade goat yogurt when I can get it made properly, it hasn't been > working out too well lately. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 He's been on the SCD for over a year. In that time, we have NOT been able to add new foods, he still doesn't tolerate them. I know he's not getting enough vitamins/minerals and ever since I tried to add more yeast treatment we've had a lot more diarrhea. However, I have been wondering lately if maybe he doesn't have a blockage (constipation) or encopresis is what I think it is also called and what I see in his stools is just what is leaking past. The reason I'm curious is that with some probiotic treatment I was told to add fiber but I never saw changes in his BM's, just continued diarrhea and blood in his stool. VickiB -- In pecanbread , " odiniella " <hgaimari@s...> wrote: > Vicky, I can only offer my experience of terrible diarrhea with my > son when he eats dairy. Perhaps you can do without the goat yogurt > for a week or two. I think you can use the probiotics without > yogurt. My son eats meat (burgers), few vegetables and few fruits. > He has just graduated to eggs. I've tried nuts a couple times and he > is quite unready for those. He is also salicylate sensitive which > eliminates more possibilities. However, he is getting his vitamins > and his gut is healing. I can tell in so many areas. For me, this > really restricted diet is temporary and necessary for healing. Can > your son take the turkey soup? > Helen, mom to (9, ASD, SCD 4/04) > > > > > > > I have not been on this site for a while. I have been putting my > > energy towards finding a job to replace that which I lost. But now > > I'm having lots of problems with my son. > > > > 1. He is still SCD compliant, however, he is having diarrhea and > > some blood in his stools and sore bottom issues. Could this be a > > sulfur issue? > > > > Homemade goat yogurt when I can get it made properly, it hasn't > been > > working out too well lately. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hi Vicki, It is nice to hear from you again. I remember that your son was a patient of Dr Krigsman and that you sent us photos that showed your son's improvement with SCD. I remember that your son's diet was limited but that you saw a lot of progress with GI symptoms. I am so sad to hear that things have changed. What do you think happened to mess this? The yeast treatments? Some suggestions: *blend his veggies to make them easier to digest *enzymes *continue the yogurt if it does not worsen the symptoms *five smaller meals instead of three big meals *get help from a SCD counselor We have a problem report on our website. Please fill that and we will try to help you. Mimi > I have not been on this site for a while. I have been putting my > energy towards finding a job to replace that which I lost. But now > I'm having lots of problems with my son. > > 1. He is still SCD compliant, however, he is having diarrhea and > some blood in his stools and sore bottom issues. Could this be a > sulfur issue? If I eliminate eggs, what do I give him for > breakfast? He currently eats eggs and either ground turkey or ground > pork (he doesn't tolerate ANY sausage or beef) for breakfast. > > I had been playing around with his diet, trying to be more aggressive > with the yeast issue but I seem to have made things worse. I'm not > sure what to do now. He cannot go on like this. > > He eats turkey, chicken and pork, eggs > > vegetables are broccoli, green beans and peas, he doesn't seem to be > digesting these at this time > > He doesn't seem to tolerate ANY fruits or juice at this time. > > Homemade goat yogurt when I can get it made properly, it hasn't been > working out too well lately. I can usually make 1 quart at a time > successfully, but when I make 2 quarts, even though I follow the same > protocol and mix it real well, it just doesn't come out right. The > last time the top half was like water and the bottom half was like > sludge. > > The only seasoning is sea salt. > > Any ideas would be welcome. > > Thank you > > VickiB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Vickie, What starter are you using? I've never had yogurt turn out like that...... are you taking it right out of the maker and then chilling it well before stirring or checking it? Maybe you could try making some of the nut yogurt if you're thinking he might not be tolerating the dairy. What do you mean by being agressive with the yeast treatment? What antifungals have you used? I think you've really got to get the good bacteria down there to take up the space where the old bad guys were camped out. I do also remember someone once telling me that when colonies of well-entrenched yeast and bacteria die-off, the places where they were connected to the intestinal wall are bound to be really tender and raw...... so it might make sense to go back to a very simple menu..... of all cooked, maybe even strained or pureed veggies (strain out pea or lentil skins, etc) to just make all of his food as easy to digest as possible...... while you're making sure to get the live acidophilus down there to stake their claims and get settled in. PS...... are you using iodized sea salt? I know it's available.... I bought Hain's iodized sea salt. I was just wondering because I remember Elaine saying how very important this is for our kids who are not getting any canned foods anymore (plenty of iodized salt is always added to canned and packaged foods). Iodine is something that is really hard to get in our diets and is essential to thyroid function. HTH, Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 14 months Questions! I have not been on this site for a while. I have been putting my energy towards finding a job to replace that which I lost. But now I'm having lots of problems with my son. 1. He is still SCD compliant, however, he is having diarrhea and some blood in his stools and sore bottom issues. Could this be a sulfur issue? If I eliminate eggs, what do I give him for breakfast? He currently eats eggs and either ground turkey or ground pork (he doesn't tolerate ANY sausage or beef) for breakfast. I had been playing around with his diet, trying to be more aggressive with the yeast issue but I seem to have made things worse. I'm not sure what to do now. He cannot go on like this. He eats turkey, chicken and pork, eggs vegetables are broccoli, green beans and peas, he doesn't seem to be digesting these at this time He doesn't seem to tolerate ANY fruits or juice at this time. Homemade goat yogurt when I can get it made properly, it hasn't been working out too well lately. I can usually make 1 quart at a time successfully, but when I make 2 quarts, even though I follow the same protocol and mix it real well, it just doesn't come out right. The last time the top half was like water and the bottom half was like sludge. The only seasoning is sea salt. Any ideas would be welcome. Thank you VickiB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 My yogurt maker's instructions say that the solid will be all at the bottom if you don't mix the starter with a small amt of milk before you add to the whole batch. I've never tried more than one quart at a time, though. But, you know, my yogurt seems a little like this until I refrigerate and drip it - more liquid at the top and more solid at the bottom. Once I refrigerate and drip it, it's perfect. If eggs are a problem, and you think it might be the sulpher, molybednum could help. I give it to my son because he never tolerated eggs and I've 'heard' that IBD sufferers are commonly deficient in this trace mineral. Too much can cause copper deficiency, but I think you'd have to get a lot of it to cause that. I give 500 mcg a day in chelated form. Water OZ makes some, too, which might be even better. And you know, my younger son, when he has dieoff, has horrible stools for several days - raw bottom, yellow or chunky stools, all the symptoms of what might be an actual yeast infection. But then it tapers off (without any diet changes at all) and he gets a lot better - solid stools, no diaper rash, no yellow or chunky stools... so maybe you are actually seeing a major dieoff reaction? Robbie Questions! I have not been on this site for a while. I have been putting my energy towards finding a job to replace that which I lost. But now I'm having lots of problems with my son. 1. He is still SCD compliant, however, he is having diarrhea and some blood in his stools and sore bottom issues. Could this be a sulfur issue? If I eliminate eggs, what do I give him for breakfast? He currently eats eggs and either ground turkey or ground pork (he doesn't tolerate ANY sausage or beef) for breakfast. I had been playing around with his diet, trying to be more aggressive with the yeast issue but I seem to have made things worse. I'm not sure what to do now. He cannot go on like this. He eats turkey, chicken and pork, eggs vegetables are broccoli, green beans and peas, he doesn't seem to be digesting these at this time He doesn't seem to tolerate ANY fruits or juice at this time. Homemade goat yogurt when I can get it made properly, it hasn't been working out too well lately. I can usually make 1 quart at a time successfully, but when I make 2 quarts, even though I follow the same protocol and mix it real well, it just doesn't come out right. The last time the top half was like water and the bottom half was like sludge. The only seasoning is sea salt. Any ideas would be welcome. Thank you VickiB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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