Re: A Casein Quandry-Advice?

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Tina this stuff is all Greek to me...but here's my 2 cents. I think

you can test positve for somethign you've NEVER had! In fact I know

you can. My son tested positive for both beet (which I guess

could've been in something for coloring) and lettuce, crab and some

other extraneous things he has NEVER had...even in utero (I don't eat

seafood). So I don't know how that factors into your level of

understanding...but I do know that can happen. Wish I knew more to

help you.

Ps Also are you GFCF while nursing???

> Got a quandry. My youngest (11 months old) just tested very low

IGg

> to cow's milk/casein. The only dairy thing he has ever had in his

> life was 1 saltine cracker that someone gave him about 6 months

ago,

> unbeknownst to me. I am sure there is milk in that. But other

than

> that, he has never had dairy, and I have been dairy free for 5

months

> now. I nurse him, so do you think he is reacting to the casein in

my

> breast milk? Also, he tested very low positive to soybean, which

he

> has not had to my knowledge, other than what was in the Gerber rice

> cereal I gave him a couple of times back about 6 months ago. He

> seems fine overall, except he has this nagging cough now, very

> congested like. I don't know if it is because I am eating eggs and

> nuts now or what. But if I don't, I can't hardly make it through

the

> days. I need energy!

>

> On the IGg gluten test, he was negative, but the only gluten he has

> ever had was that 1 cracker, other than what came through my

> breastmilk pre-gluten free about 5 months ago. My question is,

what

> is going on? And what do I do? Should I continue to breastfeed?

> Should I go ahead and give him goat yogurt?(making my first batch

as

> we speak) My oldest son was very sensitive to gluten (age 3 and a

> half), and low positive to casein several months ago. We have been

> on SCD for 3 months now, and my oldest is doing much better. I

> thought the yogurt would be worth a try. Do I introduce it very

> slowly? Like 1/4 tsp every other day. Is that right?

>

> Any thoughts would be great. My baby has only taken antibiotics

once

> in his life several months ago. He is overall very healthy

seeming.

>

> Thanks,

> Tina SCD with boys, Abraham 3 and a half, and Micah 11 months

[Guest guest]

Well, saltines don't have any dairy in them - both my kids have been on a dairy

free diet since infantcy and saltines were always a snack they could have. If

you have been dairy free for only 5 months, cow's milk protein can get in your

breast milk and can cross the placenta in the last months of pregnancy. He

could have developed this allergy before you stopped the dairy. Do not stop

bfding - really. This is not your breast milk doing this. And, those

antibodies will die off if the proteins aren't re-introduced. False positives

are also very common. Some allergists won't even test kids under age 6 for this

reason. I had a hard time finding one that would test my 3 yr old son.

If you are concerned about allergies, the best thing you can do for your kids is

to continue to do SCD and allow the gut to heal so food proteins won't leak in

to the bloodstream and cause the immune system to create antibodies to foods. I

am battling this with my youngest son, who seemed to react to everything as an

infant when I was fding. I believe I had a horrible leaky gut, which in turn

allowed a lot more food proteins to get in to my breast milk and cause food

allergies/sensitivities in my babies.

My youngest (15 months) does not tolerate eggs, either. Eggs can cause horrible

allergies in infants and aren't recommended for kids under a year old (and also

peanuts, but almonds might be ok). If you have gut issues, than the egg

proteins are probably prevalent in your breast milk. This is frustrating, I

know - but if you think you can eliminate the eggs just for a while, as your

little one's digestive system gets more mature and as you continue SCD with them

and the gut gets healthy and strong, you can go back to eggs. It might only

take a couple of weeks. Also, as a source of protein we've been eating home

made sausage and Gwaltney bacon, which is sugar free. Maybe that would help?

I would definitely do the goat yogurt - my son was horribly allergic to cow's

milk protein as an infant and I could cook with goat milk with no problems. The

casein in goat milk breaks down a lot easier than that of cow's milk. I think

you will find this ok and the yogurt will give you an alternative to the eggs

for a source of protein and as a breakfast food. The probiotics in the yogurt

will help get everyone's digestive system back on track, too.

I believe if your kids aren't showing behavioral problems when they eat certain

foods, you might not have to go as slow on the goat yogurt as these ASD kids

have to. But, I know it's still recommended to go slow. You'd have to look at

the book though for the schedule. I haven't started the goat yogurt yet.

I hope some of this helps - we've been round and round with the allergy thing..

Robbie

A Casein Quandry-Advice?

Got a quandry. My youngest (11 months old) just tested very low IGg

to cow's milk/casein. The only dairy thing he has ever had in his

life was 1 saltine cracker that someone gave him about 6 months ago,

unbeknownst to me. I am sure there is milk in that. But other than

that, he has never had dairy, and I have been dairy free for 5 months

now. I nurse him, so do you think he is reacting to the casein in my

breast milk? Also, he tested very low positive to soybean, which he

has not had to my knowledge, other than what was in the Gerber rice

cereal I gave him a couple of times back about 6 months ago. He

seems fine overall, except he has this nagging cough now, very

congested like. I don't know if it is because I am eating eggs and

nuts now or what. But if I don't, I can't hardly make it through the

days. I need energy!

On the IGg gluten test, he was negative, but the only gluten he has

ever had was that 1 cracker, other than what came through my

breastmilk pre-gluten free about 5 months ago. My question is, what

is going on? And what do I do? Should I continue to breastfeed?

Should I go ahead and give him goat yogurt?(making my first batch as

we speak) My oldest son was very sensitive to gluten (age 3 and a

half), and low positive to casein several months ago. We have been

on SCD for 3 months now, and my oldest is doing much better. I

thought the yogurt would be worth a try. Do I introduce it very

slowly? Like 1/4 tsp every other day. Is that right?

Any thoughts would be great. My baby has only taken antibiotics once

in his life several months ago. He is overall very healthy seeming.

Thanks,

Tina SCD with boys, Abraham 3 and a half, and Micah 11 months

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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I am amazed there are allergist out there that do allergy tests on an

11 month old. The fact is, allergy tests for a child under 2 are not

valid. I had my son tested shortly after his 2nd birthday. I

already knew he had an allergy to sweet potatoes and black beans

(makes him vomit). They tests for 24 foods and about half showed an

allergy. Sweet potatoes and black beans did not show an allergy so

she did another test on those two items. They still did not show

up. I then removed all the other items he tested for completely then

after 6 weeks reintroduced 1 per week. He had no reaction with

removing or reintroducing each item. It was after we suffered

through this time that I learned he was too young for it to be valid.

I would definately keep nursing and ignore what this test said.

Instead, go by your instincts and observations as to what, if any,

foods he is reacting to. Remember that those that react to casein

have leaky gut. There would be evidence of this by autistic-like

behaviours. Those with celiac are often lactose intolerant. This is

caused by the damage that was caused by gluten in the intestines.

Since he has been gluten-free all his life and showing no behavioural

problems, it is unlikely he has an intolerance to with dairy.

> Got a quandry. My youngest (11 months old) just tested very low

IGg

> to cow's milk/casein. The only dairy thing he has ever had in his

> life was 1 saltine cracker that someone gave him about 6 months

ago,

> unbeknownst to me. I am sure there is milk in that. But other

than

> that, he has never had dairy, and I have been dairy free for 5

months

> now. I nurse him, so do you think he is reacting to the casein in

my

> breast milk? Also, he tested very low positive to soybean, which

he

> has not had to my knowledge, other than what was in the Gerber rice

> cereal I gave him a couple of times back about 6 months ago. He

> seems fine overall, except he has this nagging cough now, very

> congested like. I don't know if it is because I am eating eggs and

> nuts now or what. But if I don't, I can't hardly make it through

the

> days. I need energy!

>

> On the IGg gluten test, he was negative, but the only gluten he has

> ever had was that 1 cracker, other than what came through my

> breastmilk pre-gluten free about 5 months ago. My question is,

what

> is going on? And what do I do? Should I continue to breastfeed?

> Should I go ahead and give him goat yogurt?(making my first batch

as

> we speak) My oldest son was very sensitive to gluten (age 3 and a

> half), and low positive to casein several months ago. We have been

> on SCD for 3 months now, and my oldest is doing much better. I

> thought the yogurt would be worth a try. Do I introduce it very

> slowly? Like 1/4 tsp every other day. Is that right?

>

> Any thoughts would be great. My baby has only taken antibiotics

once

> in his life several months ago. He is overall very healthy

seeming.

>

> Thanks,

> Tina SCD with boys, Abraham 3 and a half, and Micah 11 months

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Robbie, for your response. Good thoughts and suggestions.

We don't do the Gwaltney bacon or sausage for two reasons. We don't

do pork anymore because it has nitrates/nitrites which we have stayed

away from for a while. Also, I read in a book how pork is not really

a healthy meat to it, and in the Old Testament it was forbidden. I

know that all may not agree with my beliefs, but I am steering clear

of it regardless. I have read that a pig's digestive system is not

good, and does not eliminate toxins from its body, just like shrimp,

lobster, catfish, etc. This is not SCD stuff, just some other things

I have learned.

I am going to continue b-feeding. I think I had a leaky gut when

pregnant with him as well, and you are probably right. When can a

baby eat nuts, like the nut flours? Just wondering.

Thanks again,

Tina

> Well, saltines don't have any dairy in them - both my kids have

been on a dairy free diet since infantcy and saltines were always a

snack they could have. If you have been dairy free for only 5

months, cow's milk protein can get in your breast milk and can cross

the placenta in the last months of pregnancy. He could have

developed this allergy before you stopped the dairy. Do not stop

bfding - really. This is not your breast milk doing this. And,

those antibodies will die off if the proteins aren't re-introduced.

False positives are also very common. Some allergists won't even test

kids under age 6 for this reason. I had a hard time finding one that

would test my 3 yr old son.

>

> If you are concerned about allergies, the best thing you can do for

your kids is to continue to do SCD and allow the gut to heal so food

proteins won't leak in to the bloodstream and cause the immune system

to create antibodies to foods. I am battling this with my youngest

son, who seemed to react to everything as an infant when I was

fding. I believe I had a horrible leaky gut, which in turn allowed a

lot more food proteins to get in to my breast milk and cause food

allergies/sensitivities in my babies.

>

> My youngest (15 months) does not tolerate eggs, either. Eggs can

cause horrible allergies in infants and aren't recommended for kids

under a year old (and also peanuts, but almonds might be ok). If you

have gut issues, than the egg proteins are probably prevalent in your

breast milk. This is frustrating, I know - but if you think you can

eliminate the eggs just for a while, as your little one's digestive

system gets more mature and as you continue SCD with them and the gut

gets healthy and strong, you can go back to eggs. It might only take

a couple of weeks. Also, as a source of protein we've been eating

home made sausage and Gwaltney bacon, which is sugar free. Maybe

that would help?

>

> I would definitely do the goat yogurt - my son was horribly

allergic to cow's milk protein as an infant and I could cook with

goat milk with no problems. The casein in goat milk breaks down a

lot easier than that of cow's milk. I think you will find this ok

and the yogurt will give you an alternative to the eggs for a source

of protein and as a breakfast food. The probiotics in the yogurt

will help get everyone's digestive system back on track, too.

>

> I believe if your kids aren't showing behavioral problems when they

eat certain foods, you might not have to go as slow on the goat

yogurt as these ASD kids have to. But, I know it's still recommended

to go slow. You'd have to look at the book though for the schedule.

I haven't started the goat yogurt yet.

>

> I hope some of this helps - we've been round and round with the

allergy thing..

>

> Robbie

> A Casein Quandry-Advice?

>

>

> Got a quandry. My youngest (11 months old) just tested very low

IGg

> to cow's milk/casein. The only dairy thing he has ever had in

his

> life was 1 saltine cracker that someone gave him about 6 months

ago,

> unbeknownst to me. I am sure there is milk in that. But other

than

> that, he has never had dairy, and I have been dairy free for 5

months

> now. I nurse him, so do you think he is reacting to the casein

in my

> breast milk? Also, he tested very low positive to soybean, which

he

> has not had to my knowledge, other than what was in the Gerber

rice

> cereal I gave him a couple of times back about 6 months ago. He

> seems fine overall, except he has this nagging cough now, very

> congested like. I don't know if it is because I am eating eggs

and

> nuts now or what. But if I don't, I can't hardly make it through

the

> days. I need energy!

>

> On the IGg gluten test, he was negative, but the only gluten he

has

> ever had was that 1 cracker, other than what came through my

> breastmilk pre-gluten free about 5 months ago. My question is,

what

> is going on? And what do I do? Should I continue to

breastfeed?

> Should I go ahead and give him goat yogurt?(making my first batch

as

> we speak) My oldest son was very sensitive to gluten (age 3 and

a

> half), and low positive to casein several months ago. We have

been

> on SCD for 3 months now, and my oldest is doing much better. I

> thought the yogurt would be worth a try. Do I introduce it very

> slowly? Like 1/4 tsp every other day. Is that right?

>

> Any thoughts would be great. My baby has only taken antibiotics

once

> in his life several months ago. He is overall very healthy

seeming.

>

> Thanks,

> Tina SCD with boys, Abraham 3 and a half, and Micah 11 months

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>