Re: OT. BFN. Questions. (m/c ment)

[Guest guest]

> Hey folks.

> CD 40, 13 dpo (usually have 11d lp) and I got a lovely BFN this

> morning, but no sign of AF.

Again, we're in the same boat...

> Question. My docs office will do a bloodtest today if I want (b/c

AF

> was due yesterday so therefore I missed what I estimated to be the

> 1st day of my period. Should I get a blood test today? Can THEY

have

> false negatives? Should I wait a few more days?

HCG shows up in the blood before it shows up in the urine, so a blood

test today would give you a definitive answer. Do you want a

definitive answer today? (hypothetical...of course you do, so GO! GO!)

Blood HCG level is what it is. If you are pg, then it is higher than

5. Of course, if the levels are low, there is a potential problem

with the pregnancy.

>

> Now, about progesterone. For those of you whose docs rx

progesterone

> early on in a pg, when do you go on it? My doc won't put me on it

> until I'm confirmed pg ... I can understand the reason of that, but

> here's my off the wall worry: Can funky progesterone levels affect

> really early pg development or implantation? In other words, are

> there any situations in which a patient should be on progesterone

> earlier than, say 18 dpo? How are those pts identified?

Yes, it is my understanding that progesterone should be given, if

necessary, starting at 7DPO as it is what makes a pregnancy " stick "

and helps to ensure the viability of the pregnancy by increasing the

lining and some other things. Did you have your 7DPO progesterone

checked? How do you know it's low?

>

> Are there any books on all this so I can stop BOTHERING you folks?

DK, but you are no bother!

Cyn

Your partner in a sinking boat.

>

> Virtually vibrating with impatience...

>

[Guest guest]

> Yes, it is my understanding that progesterone should be given, if

> necessary, starting at 7DPO as it is what makes a pregnancy " stick "

> and helps to ensure the viability of the pregnancy by increasing

the

> lining and some other things. Did you have your 7DPO progesterone

> checked? How do you know it's low?

Dammit. I *called* them and the nurse refused. She said I had to wait

until I was confirmed pg. Snarl. I *thought* that was wrong. How can

these people call themselves nurses? How can they be put in charge of

people's BABIES when they don't have a clue??

My doc would like me on progesterone b/c I have fluctuating lp

lengths, very long cycles and a hx of early loss.

I wish you had a + ...hang in there.

[Guest guest]

> Dammit. I *called* them and the nurse refused. She said I had to

wait

> until I was confirmed pg. Snarl. I *thought* that was wrong. How

can

> these people call themselves nurses? How can they be put in charge

of

> people's BABIES when they don't have a clue??

>

> My doc would like me on progesterone b/c I have fluctuating lp

> lengths, very long cycles and a hx of early loss.

Mel, I don't understand this. I'm not a doctor, but I play one on

the internet. Every single thing that I read about progesterone

supplementation says that taking it AFTER you are confirmed pg is too

late to help. I'm sure there must be a dissention among docs out

there, but I thought this was common knowledge.

AND (stepping up onto the box), I would think that since you have a

hx of early losses, they would be MORE inclined to play it safe with

progesterone. JEEZ.

Getting down now...sorry. Not a good day for me, either.

Mel, I'm wishing a positive for you as much as I want it for myself.

Cyn

>

> I wish you had a + ...hang in there.

>

[Guest guest]

>Question. My docs office will do a bloodtest today if I want (b/c AF

>was due yesterday so therefore I missed what I estimated to be the

>1st day of my period. Should I get a blood test today? Can THEY have

>false negatives? Should I wait a few more days?

You have nerves of steel. If my LP was normally 11 days, I would have

tested at 12...I wouldn't have made it to 13!

I would do the blood test. The only way it could give you a 'false'

positive would be if you were experiencing a chem pregnancy or had had an

hcg shot less than 10 days ago. If its over 5, you are pg.

Another reason to get the blood test would be progesterone. In everything

I have read, the earlier, the better. My doc, like yours will generally

not give prog supps til after pg is confirmed. But some docs use it as a

standard protocol, starting prog immediately after O in IUI cycles. My doc

gave me the option of prog supps after O, but I declined until we are

monitoring cycles (I don't want to put my body through it during the

months I ov on the wrong side.)

>Can funky progesterone levels affect

>really early pg development or implantation?

Yes, in that the prog may not stay high enough to allow a fertilized egg to

get so far as to implant.

>Are there any books on all this so I can stop BOTHERING you folks?

Who is bothering who? That's what we are here for!!

On pins and needles for you,

[Guest guest]

> Mel, I don't understand this. I'm not a doctor, but I play one on

> the internet.

Wahahahha! I needed that!

>Every single thing that I read about progesterone

> supplementation says that taking it AFTER you are confirmed pg is

too

> late to help. I'm sure there must be a dissention among docs out

> there, but I thought this was common knowledge.

>

> AND (stepping up onto the box), I would think that since you have a

> hx of early losses, they would be MORE inclined to play it safe

with

> progesterone. JEEZ.

Sigh ... that's what I thought. Going on a medical article hunt...