Re: Weird Stuff in 12-Step Rag

[Guest guest]

> There's a column about sex addictions. The first question is from a

> guy who thinks he might be gay. He says he had " affairs " with older

> men beginning age 5. He's married now, but he has a habit of

getting

> busted for lewd behavior in public restrooms. Amazingly, the expert

> writing the column seems to sidestep the question of whether the

guy

> is in fact gay, but she does tell him to get counseling and " I'm

glad

> you are now attending SAA, and I hope that you go to 90 in 90 days

> and get a sponsor. "

I'm wondering how a 5 year old has an affair. The word, " affair, "

implies that a 5 year old is capable of consentual sex with an adult

or significantly older kid.

So yeah. Go to a room full of people you don't know, who don't even

have to give their last names, who have also been molested but

perhaps

not treated in any meaningful way. and tell them your whole story. We

already know about all the happy endings in that kind of environment.

judith, angry skeptic

[Guest guest]

> I happened to pick up a copy of Steps for Recovery, which is a

> monthly tabloid published here in LaLa Land.

> There's a column about sex addictions. The first question is from a

> guy who thinks he might be gay. He says he had " affairs " with older

> men beginning age 5. He's married now, but he has a habit of getting

> busted for lewd behavior in public restrooms. Amazingly, the expert

> writing the column seems to sidestep the question of whether the guy

> is in fact gay, but she does tell him to get counseling and " I'm

>glad you are now attending SAA, and I hope that you go to 90 in 90

>days and get a sponsor. "

I get so pissed about this! A 5 yr old does not have AFFAIRS with

older men, they are being sexualy abusedl! and sexually abused kids

sadly often go on to actively seek further abuse. I hve seen this

kind of story in the " rewms " before. when ppl have been abused as

children, sexually or otherwise, often the biggest block they have to

overcoming it is that they feel that they are responsible for the

abuse and they feel dirty and ashamed, and a good therapeutic approach

encourges them to realize they were innocent and helpless and in no

way to blame. Instead, the stepper mentality enocurages ppl to

actively believe that they were responsible for it or that they could

have put a stop to it. (I've had the latter put on me too). This is

reinforcing ppl's trauma not alleviating it. Aaaargh!

P.

[Guest guest]

> does this rag have a web page?

>

>

Luckily, the trash has not gone out yet so I was able to find this:

http://www.steps4recovery.org

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm wondering how a 5 year old has an affair. The word, " affair, "

> implies that a 5 year old is capable of consentual sex with an

adult

> or significantly older kid.

>

Judith, to be fair to the counselor, she also made this point. She

said he was molested, he did not have an " affair. "

[Guest guest]

What is that chick thinking in that Roy Lichtenstein lookalike cartoon

on the front?

" If one of these boring old creeps hits on me one more time I swear

I'm gonna kill him! " ?

P.

> > does this rag have a web page?

> >

> >

> Luckily, the trash has not gone out yet so I was able to find this:

>

> http://www.steps4recovery.org