Re: emails from applegate farms

[Guest guest]

I think that may be an unfair statement. If originally the sodium lactate was

from beets and corn, now just from beets, they don't have to rush out to buy

new labels just to reflect that, since it's not really a change, just a

refinement - they didn't add anything new. I can see if it were made from a

totally

different product. I think this is a great company with high quality

products!>

>

> I appreciate that email from applegate but it just goes to show that they

> change things and don't notify consumers. Maybe it isn't a bad change this

> time but could be in the future. I don't want to take that chance. Thanks

> again.

>

> Donna wrote:

>

> My apologies...we source sodium lactate from beets only and have been

> using it exclusively for several months. However, we are only able to

> update the label to rea

[Guest guest]

I was thrilled to see that I could get a legal hotdog! My son begs for them all

the time and was so excited when I brought some home! I will watch for symptoms

tomorrow to make sure they both handled ok - I need simple and quick sometimes!

I appreciate whoever posted the info!

Robbie

Re: emails from applegate farms

I think that may be an unfair statement. If originally the sodium lactate was

from beets and corn, now just from beets, they don't have to rush out to buy

new labels just to reflect that, since it's not really a change, just a

refinement - they didn't add anything new. I can see if it were made from a

totally

different product. I think this is a great company with high quality

products!>

>

> I appreciate that email from applegate but it just goes to show that they

> change things and don't notify consumers. Maybe it isn't a bad change this

> time but could be in the future. I don't want to take that chance. Thanks

> again.

>

> Donna wrote:

>

> My apologies...we source sodium lactate from beets only and have been

> using it exclusively for several months. However, we are only able to

> update the label to rea

[Guest guest]

Hi Robbie..... and all.....

Just know that these hotdogs are not considered technically or " officially " SCD

legal. The decision to use them is individual..... and everyone needs to

remember to weigh that decision carefully. At the very least, always read labels

(even if it looks the same and you've been using a product for some time) but

most importantly, watch how your child is doing. Also... do remember what

happened a year or so ago with the Shelton's hot dogs. They changed their recipe

to include potato starch..... without (of course) alerting anyone.... and only

the watchful eye of another SCD parent caught it on their label. We all wondered

at the time if the recipe might have been changed prior to their stock of the

old packaging labels running out. Who knows? It's just the kind of thing that

makes you lay awake at night sometimes (as if we didn't have enough stress,

right?)...... and of course you don't have to worry when you make your own.

I know, I know..... the convenience. I completely understand. I need it, too. I

don't buy the hotdogs..... but I do use canned salmon. That's my convenience

vice. You just have to have something that's ready at hand sometimes. I just

love bulk cooking. I buy the gigantic packs of chicken thighs when they're 99

cents a lb. ...... bake them ALL at once (two 9x13 pans full), separate all the

meat from bone and skin as soon as it's all cooled, then freeze two or three

thighs-worth together in small ziplocks. Thaws quickly. Also love to cook two

BIG meatloafs at a time....... slice thin when cooled and freeze in small

amounts.

Patti, mom to Katera

Re: emails from applegate farms

I was thrilled to see that I could get a legal hotdog! My son begs for them

all the time and was so excited when I brought some home! I will watch for

symptoms tomorrow to make sure they both handled ok - I need simple and quick

sometimes! I appreciate whoever posted the info!

Robbie

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna and all,

> Turkey Hot Dog: Turkey, Water, Salt, Spices (Paprika, White Pepper,

> Garlic, Coriander, Mace, Onion, Ginger, Cardamom), Paprika, Fresh

> Garlic, Onion

This might be okay as long as it isn't garlic powder or any other

free flow agents.

> Chicken Hot Dog: Chicken, Water, Salt, Sodium Lactate (a natural

salt

> derived from corn and/or beets), Sea Salt, Honey, Onion, Spices

> (Coriander, White Pepper, Mace, Pimento, Lemon Oil, Celery), Garlic

> Powder

The garlic powder is an illegal ingredient. The honey may not be

pure. Some honey is cut with corn syrup and/or other illegal

sweeteners.

> Beef Hot Dog: Beef, Water, Salt, Sodium Lactate (a natural salt

derived

> from corn and/or beets), Sea Salt, Honey, Toasted Onion, Spices

> (Coriander, White Pepper, Mace, Pimento, Lemon Oil, Celery) , Garlic

> Powder

The garlic powder is an illegal ingredient. The honey may not be

pure. Some honey is cut with corn syrup and/or other illegal

sweeteners.

> Big Apple Hot Dog: Pork, Beef, Water, Sodium Lactate (a natural salt

> derived from corn and/or beets), Sea Salt, Apple Juice, Fresh

Garlic,

> Spices (Paprika, White Pepper, Mace, Coriander, Onion, Ginger,

Cardamom,

> Cayenne Pepper), Paprika, Lamb Casing

Apple juice is illegal.

> Roasted Turkey Breast: Turkey, Water, Sodium Lactate (from beets),

Salt,

> Carrageenan (from seaweed)

Carrageenan is illegal.

> Smoked Turkey Breast: Turkey, Sodium Lactate (from Beets) Salt.

> Carrageenan (from seaweed)

As above, carrageenan is illegal.

> Herb Turkey Breast: Turkey Breast , Water, Sodium Lactate (from

beets),

> Salt, Pepper, Onion, Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, Thyme

This may be okay if the onion is not onion powder and there are no

free flow agents in the spices

> Roast Beef: Beef, Sodium Lactate (from Beets), Salt, Pepper

This one looks okay.

TWo things to add:

1.) Elaine doesn't like the mass produced hot dogs, " I still don't

like the idea of using these bought sausages. " she was referring to

applegate hot dogs) from http://lyris.dundee.net/read/messages?

id=262327#262327 and

2.) If someone decides to use these products please consider pulling

them if you are having trouble or are not getting the results you'd

like.

Sheila 42 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 27 mos