Re: scd and yeast free combo diet

August 21, 2004

Have you read Elaine's book or the SCD Science section on

pecanbread.com?

If not, please do. The SCD will address the issues of yeast

overgrowth and bacterial overgrowth (except clostridia).

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 19 months

August 21, 2004

Hi brake,

This is from a previous post:

We do occasionally see yeast flare ups when starting SCD. This

should be a temporary increase. As lots of pathogenic bacteria are

the first to die off by not feeding them with starches and sugars,

yeast will attempt to take up that empty space initially. By giving

either powerful homemade SCD yogurt or excellent probiotics, one can

*usually* avoid this situation.

For those with yeast overgrowth,

" It is wise to cut back on honey ingestion at the beginning of the

dietary regimen (amount of honey in recipes should be decreased by

at least 75%). The amount

of honey may be increased as the condition improves. " (taken from

BTVC)

We have found that using some form of probiotic is also helpful.

Probiotics can take the form of yogurt (made from goat, cow or nut

milk), other fermented foods (such as HOMEMADE sauerkraut or kimchi)

or probiotic powder or capsules (in case the child is not yet ready

for any yogurts).

Ensuring that all vegetables and fruits foods are peeled and cooked

at the

beginning is also helpful in controlling yeast overgrowth.

Undigested foods can feed microbes and delay healing. "

Sheila

> Is there anyone out there trying the scd and also trying to go

yeast

> free. I was wondering how the fruit and fruit juices and honey

would

> work?

August 23, 2004

So, pre-SCD, my son had an OAT test which said that he had a

clostridia overgrowth, possibly c.difficile. The doctor wrote on the

sheet that 20 billion cells of lactobacillus (Culturelle) a day would

get this under control. But, I never did this. What you are saying

is that wouldn't work, only medication would get rid of this?

Should I consider doing this now, then, after being on SCD for almost

5 months? Is it likely he still has the clostridia causing problems?

Are flagyl and vancomycin antibiotics? What about colloidal silver?

Would that work on clostridia as well? I would rather give that if

possible. It seems to work on other things like staph.

Tina

> " What do we do about clostridia overgrowth? "

>

> Clostridia has to be treated medically. Flagyl and Vancomycin

> will both kill clostrida.

> You can do a search on Elaine's website to read about clostridia

> if you want. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info .

>

> Jody

> mom to -5 and -7

> SCD 19 months

August 23, 2004

Tina,

Clostridia really does need to be treated with prescription meds......

probiotics and/or SCD won't take care of it. If he's already tested positive for

clostridia, you need to get that treated. I don't think I'd rely on colloidal

silver for that..... but you could discuss it with your doctor.

Responding to your other post about yogurt, too..... Have you tried the nut

yogurt? It sounds like maybe your son is still having difficulty with the dairy?

Either that, or the stuffiness, etc. could be die-off related.... but if so, it

will be temporary. If it keeps up, he might just not be able to tolerate it yet.

The nut yogurts are a good way of getting the acidophilus in, too.

Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 15 months