Re: When should I add the ALA?

[Guest guest]

> I started to give him below supplements and doing GFCF diet too. Are the =

supplement reasonable for my son according to my

son¡¯s test results ? If unreasonable, how should I improve them? Please an=

d tell me which supplements would be recommended and

which ones are unreasonable to use during chelation, which types of the one=

s are best tolerated and metabolized especially for my

son with lots of allergies and sensitivities (all common allergens )?

Did you add each one of these individually, so you would know how each one =

affected him? My son would have really flipped on some

of these.

> aluminum 13 < 8.0 yellow

> antimony 0.18 < .066 yellow

> arsenic 0.51 < .08 red

> cadmium 0.37 < .15 yellow

> lead 5.2 < 1.0 red

> mercury 2.0 < 0.4 yellow

> nickel 0.71 < 0.4 yellow

> tin 0.36 < 0.3 yellow

Consider removing sources of current exposure

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

> Calcium 239 125-370 green over 50%

> Magnesium 9.0 12-30 yellow under 50%

Add magnesium, if not already listed above.

> Copper 11 8.0-16 white 50%

> Zinc 63 100-190 yellow under 50%

Add zinc, if not already listed above.

> Selenium 1.1 0.95-1.7 green under 50%

Add selenium, if not already listed above.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hello Helen,

> Here's my son¡¯s hair test results and URINE AMINO ACIDS test results.

>

I don't know about the urine amino acids test. I'll get to the

hair test (below).

> Wong is autistic and his hair test results were to identify mercury

toxicity. And he has overgrowth yeast and lots of allergies and

sensitivities (all common allergens ). He is 4 years and 8 months,

about 50 pound. I started chelating for my son with 25mg DMSA and have

done three rounds. Every 4 hours for 3 days 11 days off. I think I

see great improvements.

that is very encouraging!

> I would greatly like to ask dear Andy, Moria when should I add the

ALA? How much? Should I stop the DMAS while starting ALA? If not, what

the proper dose of DMSA and ALA I should give to my son?

Well, if you son has had RECENT exposure to mercury, say a shot

with thimerosal in it, then you should wait. Otherwise, you

can add ALA whenever you wish. In your case, since he has

high LEAD, I would certainly recommend that you continue

using DMSA in addition to the ALA. You can find recommended

amounts to use here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html

Please note that when you add ALA, you will also need to

change to giving doses every THREE hours (rather than every 4).

You can give both the DMSA and ALA together every 3 hours.

> I started to give him below supplements and doing GFCF diet too. Are

the supplement reasonable for my son according to my son¡¯s test

results ?

I don't know. In general the list of items seems okay to me,

but I am not sure about the amounts, and I don't feel at ease

with recommending supplements-- it all seems very complex to me.

The GSE I would use only if/while he has yeast (not always).

Okay, now I'm going to look at the hair test:

Counting rules:

step 1: elements above 50%: 14 -- this is normal

step 2: elements in " red " : 2: this is normal

step 3: elements average: 15: this is normal

Summary: your son has normal mineral transport. This does

not guarentee that he is not mercury toxic, but he does NOT

have this sign of mercury toxicity.

It may be that lead and arsenic are his 2 biggest problems.

(DMSA chelates lead and ALA chelates arsenic). If there

is mercury, these chelation agents will also remove the

mercury.

You should ALSO check your home and water for sources of

lead. Ideally you should do this before chelating.

Same with arsenic.

good wishes,

Moria

> Any comments, and suggestions about what to do next, would be greatly

> appreciated!!

>

> Thanks!

> Helen

>

>

>

> POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color

> =================================================================

> aluminum 13 < 8.0 yellow

> antimony 0.18 < .066 yellow

> arsenic 0.51 < .08 red

> beryllium <0.01 < 0.02 no line

> bismuth 0.092 < .13 green

> cadmium 0.37 < .15 yellow

> lead 5.2 < 1.0 red

> mercury 2.0 < 0.4 yellow

> platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line

> thallium < 0.001 < 0.01 no line

> thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 no line

> uranium 0.011 < 0.06 green

> nickel 0.71 < 0.4 yellow

> silver 0.13 < 0.2 green

> tin 0.36 < 0.3 yellow

> titanium 0.93 < 1.0 green

>

>

>

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color under/over 50%

> ==================================================================

> Calcium 239 125-370 green over 50%

> Magnesium 9.0 12-30 yellow under 50%

> Sodium 160 12-90 yellow over 50%

> Potassium 430 12-40 red over 100%

> Copper 11 8.0-16 white 50%

> Zinc 63 100-190 yellow under 50%

> Manganese 0.22 0.2-0.55 green under 50%

> Chromium 0.51 0.26-0.5 green over 50%

> Vanadium 0.072 0.03-0.1 green over 50%

> Molybdenum 0.14 0.05-0.13 yellow over 50%

> Boron 1.7 0.6-4.0 white over 50%

> Iodine 0.79 0.25-1.3 green under 50%

> Lithium 0.014 0.007-0.023 green under 50%

> Phosphorus 228 160-250 green over 50%

> Selenium 1.1 0.95-1.7 green under 50%

> Strontium 0.27 0.16-1.0 green under 50%

> Sulfur 48300 45500-53000 white over 50%

> Barium 0.67 0.16-0.8 green over 50%

> Cobalt 0.01 0.013-0.035 yellow under 50%

> Iron 13 8.0-19 green over 50%

> Germanium 0.06 0.045-0.065 green over 50%

> Rubidium 1.6 0.016-0.18 red over 100%

> Zirconium 0.029 0.04-1.0 yellow under 50%

>

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>

> URINE AMINO ACIDS

>

>

>

> Specimen Validity

>

> Specimen markers result ref range color under/over 50%

> ===========================================================

> Creatinine 45 21-76 mg/dL green under 50%

>

> Glutamine/Glutamate 34 5-160 white 50%

>

> Ammonia Level 55400 16000-75000uM yellow over 50%

>

>

>

>

>

> Essential Conditionally Indispensable Amino Acids

>

> Essential result

>

> amino acids uM/g creatinine ref range color under/over 50%

> ===========================================================

> Methionine 26 12-46 white 50%

>

> Lysine 540 55-550 yellow over 50%

>

> Threonine 220 80-400 green over 50%

>

> Leucine 66 20-100 green over 50%

>

> Isoleucine 21 8-45 white 50%

>

> Valine 71 20-94 green over 50%

>

> Phenylalanine 150 40-180 yellow over 50%

>

> Tryptophan 110 35-145 yellow over 50%

>

> Taurine 3110 200-1600 red over 100%

>

> Cysteine 59 25-93 green over 50%

>

> Arginine 52 12-70 yellow over 50%

>

> Histidine 1720 520-2100 green over 50%

>

>

>

>

>

> Nonessential Amino Acids

>

> Nonessential result

>

> amino acids uM/g creatinine ref range color under/over 50%

>

> ==========================================================

> Alanine 290 170-800 green under 50%

>

> Aspartate 73 35-100 green over 50%

>

> Asparagines 290 75-450 yellow over 50%

>

> Glutamine 640 300-1200 green under 50%

>

> Glutamate 19 10-80 green under 50%

>

> Cystine 61 28-91 green over 50%

>

> Glycine 1580 800-3400 white 50%

>

> Tyrosine 250 80-300 yellow over 50%

>

> Serine 490 200-880 white 50%

>

> Proline 9.4 2-90 green under 50%

>

>

>

>

>

> Gastrointestinal Markers

>

> GI result

>

> MARKERS uM/g creatinine ref range color under/over 50%

>

> =========================================================

> Ammonia 55400 16000-75000 yellow over 50%

>

> Ethanolamine 310 150-580 green under 50%

>

> Alpha-Aminoadipate 99 8-100 yellow over 50%

>

> Threonine 220 80-400 green over 50%

>

> Tryptophan 110 35-145 yellow over 50%

>

> Taurine 3110 200-1600 red over 100%

>

>

>

> Beta-alanine 24 < 22 red

>

> Beta-aminoisobutyrate 1250 < 470 red

>

> Anserine 40 < 200 green

>

> Carnosine 9.4 < 200 green

>

> Gamma-aminobutyrate <dl < 10 No line

>

> Hydroxyproline 28 < 60 yellow

>

>

>

>

>

> MAGNESIUM DEPENDANT MARKERS

>

> MAGNESIUM result

>

> MARKERS uM/g creatinine ref range color under/over 50%

>

> =========================================================

> Citruline 7.1 1-47 yellow under 50%

>

> Ethanolamine 310 150-580 green under 50%

>

> Phosphoethanolamine 71 46-140 green under 50%

>

> Phosphoserine 120 40-180 green over 50%

>

> Serine 490 200-880 white 50%

>

> Taurine 3110 200-1600 red over 100%

>

>

>

> Methionine Sulfoxde < dl < 3

>

>

>

>

>

> B6, B12, & FOLATE DEPENDANT MARKERS

>

> B-VITAMIN result

>

> MARKERS uM/g creatinine ref range color under/over 50%

>

> ========================================================

> Serine 490 200-880 white 50%

>

> Alpha-Aminoadipate 99 8-100 yellow over 50%

>

> Cysteine 59 25-93 green over 50%

>

> Cystathionine 28 10-43 green over 50%

>

> 1-Methylhistidine 1220 55-900 red over 100%

>

> 3-Methylhistidine 610 120-430 red over 100%

>

> alphaamino.N.butyrate 4.7 8-65 red under 50%

>

>

>

> Beta-aminoisobutyrate 1250 < 470 red

>

> Beta-alanine 24 < 22 red

>

> Homocystine 2.4 < 10 yellow

>

> Sarcosine < dl < 10

>

>

>

>

>

> DETOXIFICATION MARKERS

>

> DETOX result

>

> MARKERS uM/g creatinine ref range color under/over 50%

>

> ===========================================================

> Methionine 26 12-46 white 50%

>

> Cysteine 59 25-93 green over 50%

>

> Taurine 3110 200-1600 red over 100%

>

> Glutamine 640 300-1200 green under 50%

>

> Glycine 1580 800-3400 white 50%

>

> Aspartate 73 35-100 green over 50%

>

>

>

>

>

> NEUROLOGICAL MARKERS

>

> NEUROLOGICAL result

>

> MARKERS uM/g creatinine ref range color under/over 50%

>

> =========================================================

> Ammonia 55400 16000-75000 green over 50%

>

> Glutamine 640 300-1200 green under 50%

>

> Phenylalanine 150 40-180 yellow over 50%

>

> Tyrosine 250 80-300 yellow over 50%

>

> Tryptophan 110 35-145 yellow over 50%

>

> Taurine 3110 200-1600 red over 100%

>

> Cystathionine 28 10-43 green over 50%

>

>

>

> Beta-alanine 24 < 22 red

>

>

>

>

>

> UREA CYCLE METABOLITES

>

> NEUROLOGICAL result

>

> MARKERS uM/g creatinine ref range color under/over 50%

>

> ========================================================

> Arginine 52 12-70 yellow over 50%

>

> Aspartate 73 35-100 green over 50%

>

> Citrulline 7.1 1-47 yellow under 50%

>

> Ornithine 14 5-55 green over 50%

>

> Urea 400 210-750 green under 50%

>

> Ammonia 55400 16000-75000 yellow over 50%

>

> Glutamine 640 300-1200 green under 50%

>

> Asparagines 290 75-450 yellow over 50%

>

[Guest guest]

Helen,

You have a full suppliment schedule! It will be challenging for you to

determine when to reduce/change things as your son needs to. Here are

some things I would consider...

1. Watch that that B vitmains arent making him too hyper. SNT can be

pretty rough for some. Enzymes seem to help available vitamins and many

parents have needed to reduce the doseage of B's.

2. Don¡Çt give GSE every day. It kills natural flora as well as yeast. I

use it as the last line of defense. For maintenance I use Candex

enzymes, No Fenol Enzymes. Honestly, the best thing to use is lots of

garlic. Its hard to get down them though.

3. Watch out for too much selenium. It can be toxic. We saw stomache

upset when the dose was too high.

4.Whats in the mineral complex?

5. I would post your results on the ambd board.

6. If you cant use ALA, then you could try apple pectin for the arsenic.

1¡¢ Super Nu-Thera(B6) Liquid 10ML(separate 4 times every day)

2¡¢ Vitamin E 500IU (separate 4 times every day)

3¡¢ VC-buffer: 1/2 Teaspoon 2200mg (separate 4 times every day)

4¡¢ B-Complex: 2Capsules (separate 4 times every day)

5¡¢ Selenium 100 mcg 1 Capsules (separate 4 times every day)

6¡¢ Buffered Magnesium Glycinate 300mg (separate 4 times every day)

7¡¢ MILK-THISTLE¡§4 Capsules (separate 4 times every day)

8¡¢ Yeast-Aid 2 Capsules (separate 2 times every day)

9¡¢ Vitamin A 50000IU (separate 2 times every day)

10¡¢ Zinc¡§40mg 2 Capsules (separate 2 times every day)

11¡¢ Molybdenum 1000mcg (separate 3 times every day)

12¡¢ Calcium¡§1000mg¡¤(separate 3 times every day)

13¡¢ Multiple Mineral Complex: 2 Cap (separate 2 times every day)

14¡¢ Taurine 325mg

15¡¢ L-Glutamine 500mg

16¡¢ GABA 2 Capsules

17¡¢ Colostrum 10ml (separate 2 times every day)

18¡¢ & szlig;- GLUCAN¡§200mg (Before a meal, separate 2 times every

day)

19¡¢ scFOS : 2.5ml

20¡¢ Grapefruit seed Extract 250mg (separate 2 times every day)

21¡¢ Alpha-Ketoglutaric acid 600mg (separate 2 times every day)

22¡¢ DHA¡§540mg (separate 2 times every day)

23¡¢ Cod Liver Oil 2 Cap (Vitamin A: 2500IU, Vitamin D: 270IU) (separate

2 times every day)

24¡¢ Pedi-Active(Phosphatidylserine/DMAE) 6 Tablets (separate 3 times

every day)

25¡¢ EnZym-Complete/DPP-IV 3 Capsules (Before a meal)

26¡¢ CoQ10 1 Tablet

27¡¢ CULTURE GOLD 2 Capsules (Before the meal, separate 2 times every

day)

28¡¢ BM 6 Tablets (Before the meal)

29¡¢ Melattonin 1 mg(1 hour before bedtime) just during taking DMSA

You can see that Taurine, Beta-aminoisobutyrate, 1-Methylhistidine, 3-

Methylhistidine are very high in the URINE AMINO ACIDS test results. I

am concerned with the Taurine being so high, I don't know if this is

good or bad. Should I still give Taurine to him? How can I help my son?

I want your opinion.

Any comments, and suggestions about what to do next, would be greatly

appreciated!!

Thanks!

Helen

[Guest guest]

,

I have some questions want to ask you.

1.Where can I get the Candex enzymes and No-Fenol enzyme?

2.Is kirkman Fenol assist the same as the No-Fenol?

3.Can I use something else instead of garlic? As garlic is one of my

son " s allergens,

4.What is apple pectin?Where can I got it?

The detial of the mineral coplex as shown:

2 capsules of mineral complex contains:

Calcium (Citrate) 125 mg.

Iron (Fumarate) 2 mg

Magnesium (Oxide) 60 mg.

Zinc (Citrate) 7 mg.

Iodine (Potassium Iodide) 10 mcg.

Manganese (Citrate) 300 mcg.

Selenium (Complex) 25 mcg.

Chromium (Complex) 30 mcg.

Molybdenum (Complex) 5 mcg.

Boron (Complex) 500 mcg. *not established

Thanks a lot.

Helen

> Helen,

>

> You have a full suppliment schedule! It will be challenging for you

to

> determine when to reduce/change things as your son needs to. Here

are

> some things I would consider...

>

> 1. Watch that that B vitmains arent making him too hyper. SNT can be

> pretty rough for some. Enzymes seem to help available vitamins and

many

> parents have needed to reduce the doseage of B's.

>

> 2. Don¡Çt give GSE every day. It kills natural flora as well as

yeast. I

> use it as the last line of defense. For maintenance I use Candex

> enzymes, No Fenol Enzymes. Honestly, the best thing to use is lots

of

> garlic. Its hard to get down them though.

>

> 3. Watch out for too much selenium. It can be toxic. We saw stomache

> upset when the dose was too high.

>

> 4.Whats in the mineral complex?

>

> 5. I would post your results on the ambd board.

>

> 6. If you cant use ALA, then you could try apple pectin for the

arsenic.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> 1¡¢ Super Nu-Thera(B6) Liquid 10ML(separate 4 times every day)

>

> 2¡¢ Vitamin E 500IU (separate 4 times every day)

>

> 3¡¢ VC-buffer: 1/2 Teaspoon 2200mg (separate 4 times every day)

>

> 4¡¢ B-Complex: 2Capsules (separate 4 times every day)

>

> 5¡¢ Selenium 100 mcg 1 Capsules (separate 4 times every day)

>

> 6¡¢ Buffered Magnesium Glycinate 300mg (separate 4 times every

day)

>

> 7¡¢ MILK-THISTLE¡§4 Capsules (separate 4 times every day)

>

> 8¡¢ Yeast-Aid 2 Capsules (separate 2 times every day)

>

> 9¡¢ Vitamin A 50000IU (separate 2 times every day)

>

> 10¡¢ Zinc¡§40mg 2 Capsules (separate 2 times every day)

>

> 11¡¢ Molybdenum 1000mcg (separate 3 times every day)

>

> 12¡¢ Calcium¡§1000mg¡¤(separate 3 times every day)

>

> 13¡¢ Multiple Mineral Complex: 2 Cap (separate 2 times every day)

>

> 14¡¢ Taurine 325mg

>

> 15¡¢ L-Glutamine 500mg

>

> 16¡¢ GABA 2 Capsules

>

> 17¡¢ Colostrum 10ml (separate 2 times every day)

>

> 18¡¢ & szlig;- GLUCAN¡§200mg (Before a meal, separate 2 times every

day)

>

> 19¡¢ scFOS : 2.5ml

>

> 20¡¢ Grapefruit seed Extract 250mg (separate 2 times every day)

>

> 21¡¢ Alpha-Ketoglutaric acid 600mg (separate 2 times every day)

>

> 22¡¢ DHA¡§540mg (separate 2 times every day)

>

> 23¡¢ Cod Liver Oil 2 Cap (Vitamin A: 2500IU, Vitamin D: 270IU)

(separate

> 2 times every day)

>

> 24¡¢ Pedi-Active(Phosphatidylserine/DMAE) 6 Tablets (separate 3

times

> every day)

>

> 25¡¢ EnZym-Complete/DPP-IV 3 Capsules (Before a meal)

>

> 26¡¢ CoQ10 1 Tablet

>

> 27¡¢ CULTURE GOLD 2 Capsules (Before the meal, separate 2 times

every

> day)

>

> 28¡¢ BM 6 Tablets (Before the meal)

>

> 29¡¢ Melattonin 1 mg(1 hour before bedtime) just during taking DMSA

>

>

>

> You can see that Taurine, Beta-aminoisobutyrate, 1-Methylhistidine,

3-

> Methylhistidine are very high in the URINE AMINO ACIDS test

results. I

> am concerned with the Taurine being so high, I don't know if this is

> good or bad. Should I still give Taurine to him? How can I help my

son?

> I want your opinion.

>

>

> Any comments, and suggestions about what to do next, would be

greatly

> appreciated!!

>

> Thanks!

> Helen

[Guest guest]

> Here's my son¡¯s hair test results and URINE AMINO ACIDS test

> results.

I have not been able to figure out how to interpret these.

> Wong is autistic and his hair test results were to identify mercury

> toxicity. And he has overgrowth yeast and lots of allergies and

> sensitivities (all common allergens ). He is 4 years and 8 months,

> about 50 pound. I started chelating for my son with 25mg DMSA and

> have done three rounds. Every 4 hours for 3 days 11 days off. I

> think I see great improvements. I would greatly like to ask dear

> Andy, Moria when should I add the ALA?

Now is OK.

> How much?

10-25 mg.

>Should I stop the

> DMAS while starting ALA?

You can if you want, it is not essential.

> If not, what the proper dose of DMSA and

> ALA I should give to my son?

DMSA as you are doing, ALA as above.

Andy . .. . . . . .