Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Dudley, That's why we have changes of venue and trial continuances. No trial ought to be conducted about this incident until the dust has settled and folks have forgotten about it. There is some merit to the proposition that the average length of time from case filing to trial is around 3-5 years. In the meantime, the parties develop the facts through the discovery techniques such as requests for admissions, written interrogatories, and depositions. When the case finally comes to trial, if it hasn't been settled, the facts have been developed and are presented in a calm and unemotional atmosphere. Trials like OJ and are by far the minority. Just think, while those cases were going on, there were hundreds of other cases being decided by rational juries all over the country. Our system is still the best. We have multiply redundant systems to insure that justice will prevail. And whether or not we like to admit it, lawyers basically run that system. Overall, from the beginning of our country to the present, they have done a good job of it. All will not be satisfied, but the price of being a contrarian in America is not being tortured or shot and shoved into a mass grave. GG. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I want to know what happened to road-side hangings for driving stupid? >8-) > > > --------------------------------- > Please read this article about a situation in > Wisconsin where medics have > been sued for wrongful death in connection with their > care of a patient. > > http://www.gazetteextra.com/lawsuit072305.asp > > I'm writing this from a Texas perspective, but many > other states have similar > statutes. > > I think it's entirely possible that an aggressive > prosecutor could charge one > or more of the medics involved in this case with a > degree of homicide or > assault and battery. (Texas does not use the word > battery. It only uses > assault. Look at your own state's statutes.) > > If you practice in Texas, or even if you don't, please > go to Google.com and > put in Texas Penal Code. Then look at the following > sections: > > Sections 7.01, 02, and 03, deal with parties to a > crime and accomplices. > > Look at section 19.01, Criminal Homicide, 19.04, > Manslaughter, and 19.05, > Criminal Negligence. > > Then go to section 22.01, assault, and section 22.02, > aggravated assault. > > If, after you read those sections, you don't think > that the folks involved in > the Winconsin incident, if in Texas, could be charged > either with > Manslaughter, Negligent Homicide, Assault, or > Aggravated Assault, then please let me > know. > > Within the last several years a physician in > California has been charged with > homicide in the treatment of a patient. He was > exonerated by the jury, as I > recall, but damage was done. > > Questions to ask: Will your employer's liability > insurance cover you if > you're charged with a criminal act in connection with > patient treatment? Will > your own liability insurance protect you? > > Can you afford to hire a competent attorney to > represent you if you're > charged with a degree of homicide in connection with > treatment, or assault in case > the patient lives. Remember that there is no statute > of limitations on murder > or its lesser included offenses. > > Without passing judgment on the medics involved in the > incident AS REPORTED > BY THE NEWSPAPER, whose reporting I do in no way > endorse, it seems to me that > every medic ought to think about the reported facts of > this case and the legal > implications of the situation. > > An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > Gene G.. > > > > E.(Gene) Gandy > POB 1651 > Albany, TX 76430 > wegandy1938@a... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I remember being pulled over in Kindelton County, TX, for speeding 90 in a 65 (I was going 75 in a 65), written a speeding ticket, and then asked if I wanted to take care of it by cash, check, or credit card right there. He said my other option was to follow him to his cousins, the JP, office for arraignment and to enter a guilty plea, and if I couldn't pay the ticket in full then I would be held until I could raise the money. I promptly handed him my Visa card, and he puplled out one of old impression machines and suction cupped it to his hood, made an impressiom of my card, filled im the amount, and had me sign it. The transaction showed up on my next bill with the JP's personal name on it, but the ticket never showed up on my record. I wasn't going to bitch, bit I still to this day avoid Kindleton County at all cost. Southern Justice with a Smile and No " KY " , > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Please read this article about a situation in > > Wisconsin where medics have > > been sued for wrongful death in connection with their > > care of a patient. > > > > http://www.gazetteextra.com/lawsuit072305.asp > > > > I'm writing this from a Texas perspective, but many > > other states have similar > > statutes. > > > > I think it's entirely possible that an aggressive > > prosecutor could charge one > > or more of the medics involved in this case with a > > degree of homicide or > > assault and battery. (Texas does not use the word > > battery. It only uses > > assault. Look at your own state's statutes.) > > > > If you practice in Texas, or even if you don't, please > > go to Google.com and > > put in Texas Penal Code. Then look at the following > > sections: > > > > Sections 7.01, 02, and 03, deal with parties to a > > crime and accomplices. > > > > Look at section 19.01, Criminal Homicide, 19.04, > > Manslaughter, and 19.05, > > Criminal Negligence. > > > > Then go to section 22.01, assault, and section 22.02, > > aggravated assault. > > > > If, after you read those sections, you don't think > > that the folks involved in > > the Winconsin incident, if in Texas, could be charged > > either with > > Manslaughter, Negligent Homicide, Assault, or > > Aggravated Assault, then please let me > > know. > > > > Within the last several years a physician in > > California has been charged with > > homicide in the treatment of a patient. He was > > exonerated by the jury, as I > > recall, but damage was done. > > > > Questions to ask: Will your employer's liability > > insurance cover you if > > you're charged with a criminal act in connection with > > patient treatment? Will > > your own liability insurance protect you? > > > > Can you afford to hire a competent attorney to > > represent you if you're > > charged with a degree of homicide in connection with > > treatment, or assault in case > > the patient lives. Remember that there is no statute > > of limitations on murder > > or its lesser included offenses. > > > > Without passing judgment on the medics involved in the > > incident AS REPORTED > > BY THE NEWSPAPER, whose reporting I do in no way > > endorse, it seems to me that > > every medic ought to think about the reported facts of > > this case and the legal > > implications of the situation. > > > > An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > > > Gene G.. > > > > > > > > E.(Gene) Gandy > > POB 1651 > > Albany, TX 76430 > > wegandy1938@a... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 My bad Wes, I meant Kendleton in Fort Bend County........My bad! This was in the late 80's to early 90's. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Please read this article about a situation in > > > Wisconsin where medics have > > > been sued for wrongful death in connection with their > > > care of a patient. > > > > > > http://www.gazetteextra.com/lawsuit072305.asp > > > > > > I'm writing this from a Texas perspective, but many > > > other states have similar > > > statutes. > > > > > > I think it's entirely possible that an aggressive > > > prosecutor could charge one > > > or more of the medics involved in this case with a > > > degree of homicide or > > > assault and battery. (Texas does not use the word > > > battery. It only uses > > > assault. Look at your own state's statutes.) > > > > > > If you practice in Texas, or even if you don't, please > > > go to Google.com and > > > put in Texas Penal Code. Then look at the following > > > sections: > > > > > > Sections 7.01, 02, and 03, deal with parties to a > > > crime and accomplices. > > > > > > Look at section 19.01, Criminal Homicide, 19.04, > > > Manslaughter, and 19.05, > > > Criminal Negligence. > > > > > > Then go to section 22.01, assault, and section 22.02, > > > aggravated assault. > > > > > > If, after you read those sections, you don't think > > > that the folks involved in > > > the Winconsin incident, if in Texas, could be charged > > > either with > > > Manslaughter, Negligent Homicide, Assault, or > > > Aggravated Assault, then please let me > > > know. > > > > > > Within the last several years a physician in > > > California has been charged with > > > homicide in the treatment of a patient. He was > > > exonerated by the jury, as I > > > recall, but damage was done. > > > > > > Questions to ask: Will your employer's liability > > > insurance cover you if > > > you're charged with a criminal act in connection with > > > patient treatment? Will > > > your own liability insurance protect you? > > > > > > Can you afford to hire a competent attorney to > > > represent you if you're > > > charged with a degree of homicide in connection with > > > treatment, or assault in case > > > the patient lives. Remember that there is no statute > > > of limitations on murder > > > or its lesser included offenses. > > > > > > Without passing judgment on the medics involved in the > > > incident AS REPORTED > > > BY THE NEWSPAPER, whose reporting I do in no way > > > endorse, it seems to me that > > > every medic ought to think about the reported facts of > > > this case and the legal > > > implications of the situation. > > > > > > An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > > > > > Gene G.. > > > > > > > > > > > > E.(Gene) Gandy > > > POB 1651 > > > Albany, TX 76430 > > > wegandy1938@a... > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group " " on the web. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I'm tired and things are running together.......... > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Please read this article about a situation in > > > > Wisconsin where medics have > > > > been sued for wrongful death in connection with their > > > > care of a patient. > > > > > > > > http://www.gazetteextra.com/lawsuit072305.asp > > > > > > > > I'm writing this from a Texas perspective, but many > > > > other states have similar > > > > statutes. > > > > > > > > I think it's entirely possible that an aggressive > > > > prosecutor could charge one > > > > or more of the medics involved in this case with a > > > > degree of homicide or > > > > assault and battery. (Texas does not use the word > > > > battery. It only uses > > > > assault. Look at your own state's statutes.) > > > > > > > > If you practice in Texas, or even if you don't, please > > > > go to Google.com and > > > > put in Texas Penal Code. Then look at the following > > > > sections: > > > > > > > > Sections 7.01, 02, and 03, deal with parties to a > > > > crime and accomplices. > > > > > > > > Look at section 19.01, Criminal Homicide, 19.04, > > > > Manslaughter, and 19.05, > > > > Criminal Negligence. > > > > > > > > Then go to section 22.01, assault, and section 22.02, > > > > aggravated assault. > > > > > > > > If, after you read those sections, you don't think > > > > that the folks involved in > > > > the Winconsin incident, if in Texas, could be charged > > > > either with > > > > Manslaughter, Negligent Homicide, Assault, or > > > > Aggravated Assault, then please let me > > > > know. > > > > > > > > Within the last several years a physician in > > > > California has been charged with > > > > homicide in the treatment of a patient. He was > > > > exonerated by the jury, as I > > > > recall, but damage was done. > > > > > > > > Questions to ask: Will your employer's liability > > > > insurance cover you if > > > > you're charged with a criminal act in connection with > > > > patient treatment? Will > > > > your own liability insurance protect you? > > > > > > > > Can you afford to hire a competent attorney to > > > > represent you if you're > > > > charged with a degree of homicide in connection with > > > > treatment, or assault in case > > > > the patient lives. Remember that there is no statute > > > > of limitations on murder > > > > or its lesser included offenses. > > > > > > > > Without passing judgment on the medics involved in the > > > > incident AS REPORTED > > > > BY THE NEWSPAPER, whose reporting I do in no way > > > > endorse, it seems to me that > > > > every medic ought to think about the reported facts of > > > > this case and the legal > > > > implications of the situation. > > > > > > > > An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > > > > > > > Gene G.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E.(Gene) Gandy > > > > POB 1651 > > > > Albany, TX 76430 > > > > wegandy1938@a... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group " " on the web. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 It's an scary feeling. I know some cities and parishes in the deep deep south that still do things that way. It's yes sir, no sir, have a nice day sir,...............Drive like a choir boy until you are out of their county, then floor it............. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Please read this article about a situation in > > > > Wisconsin where medics have > > > > been sued for wrongful death in connection with their > > > > care of a patient. > > > > > > > > http://www.gazetteextra.com/lawsuit072305.asp > > > > > > > > I'm writing this from a Texas perspective, but many > > > > other states have similar > > > > statutes. > > > > > > > > I think it's entirely possible that an aggressive > > > > prosecutor could charge one > > > > or more of the medics involved in this case with a > > > > degree of homicide or > > > > assault and battery. (Texas does not use the word > > > > battery. It only uses > > > > assault. Look at your own state's statutes.) > > > > > > > > If you practice in Texas, or even if you don't, please > > > > go to Google.com and > > > > put in Texas Penal Code. Then look at the following > > > > sections: > > > > > > > > Sections 7.01, 02, and 03, deal with parties to a > > > > crime and accomplices. > > > > > > > > Look at section 19.01, Criminal Homicide, 19.04, > > > > Manslaughter, and 19.05, > > > > Criminal Negligence. > > > > > > > > Then go to section 22.01, assault, and section 22.02, > > > > aggravated assault. > > > > > > > > If, after you read those sections, you don't think > > > > that the folks involved in > > > > the Winconsin incident, if in Texas, could be charged > > > > either with > > > > Manslaughter, Negligent Homicide, Assault, or > > > > Aggravated Assault, then please let me > > > > know. > > > > > > > > Within the last several years a physician in > > > > California has been charged with > > > > homicide in the treatment of a patient. He was > > > > exonerated by the jury, as I > > > > recall, but damage was done. > > > > > > > > Questions to ask: Will your employer's liability > > > > insurance cover you if > > > > you're charged with a criminal act in connection with > > > > patient treatment? Will > > > > your own liability insurance protect you? > > > > > > > > Can you afford to hire a competent attorney to > > > > represent you if you're > > > > charged with a degree of homicide in connection with > > > > treatment, or assault in case > > > > the patient lives. Remember that there is no statute > > > > of limitations on murder > > > > or its lesser included offenses. > > > > > > > > Without passing judgment on the medics involved in the > > > > incident AS REPORTED > > > > BY THE NEWSPAPER, whose reporting I do in no way > > > > endorse, it seems to me that > > > > every medic ought to think about the reported facts of > > > > this case and the legal > > > > implications of the situation. > > > > > > > > An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > > > > > > > Gene G.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E.(Gene) Gandy > > > > POB 1651 > > > > Albany, TX 76430 > > > > wegandy1938@a... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group " " on the web. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 The Kendelton Cops were notorious though. Known all over. Worse than Selma when Selma was the big speed trap years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I recently noticed Eustace PD is back up and running. They were shut down back in the 90's for the same tactics. I'm not sure how long they've been back in business though..... Tater " Wallace Blum, EMT-Paramedic " wrote: The Kendelton Cops were notorious though. Known all over. Worse than Selma when Selma was the big speed trap years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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