Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Hi, I just received my hair ananlysis test back and need some help. according to the test we did not meet the counting rules for mercury posioning. However his copper and magnesium levels were elevated at the 99% percentile and his selenium was very low almost to the red. He also had a high titanium almost to the red. What does this mean? Any advice on supplements, chelation, ect. would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 > Hi, > > I just received my hair ananlysis test back and need some help. > > according to the test we did not meet the counting rules for mercury > posioning. However his copper and magnesium levels were elevated at > the 99% percentile and his selenium was very low almost to the red. > He also had a high titanium almost to the red. > > What does this mean? Any advice on supplements, chelation, ect. > would be appreciated. > > Treat him for copper toxicity. The main thing is to give zinc 3 or 4 times a day. Check all supplements for copper (DON " T give him copper in supplements). Limit high copper foods (nuts and organ meats). If you think you could have copper in your water you can get it tested. This should lead to good changes. Copper toxicity is quite serious, with symptoms similar to mercury. Also congratulations: you have the exceptional case where a hair test is VERY important. If you had just " tried chelation " it would not address the copper issue. Another hair test in a few months is something you can also consider. Hopefully others will give advice on titanium, magnesium, and selenium, if any. good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I agree with Moria... Start at first with low levels of zinc at first - (i.e. 10 mg Zn 1 or 2X daily). Overdosing on zinc can upregulate metallothionein levels (a protein which scavenges Zn) leading to an artificial zinc low in the bloodstream, which can cause irritability and possible seizures. Gradually build zinc up to as high as 90 mg/day based on cognitive performance. Hair analyses in the future should be done to check on Cu/Zn ratio until it is brought to the " middle " of the normal range (10-13 on the DDI test). God Bless! [ ] Re: DDI test/elevated copper > Hi, > > I just received my hair ananlysis test back and need some help. > > according to the test we did not meet the counting rules for mercury > posioning. However his copper and magnesium levels were elevated at > the 99% percentile and his selenium was very low almost to the red. > He also had a high titanium almost to the red. > > What does this mean? Any advice on supplements, chelation, ect. > would be appreciated. > > Treat him for copper toxicity. The main thing is to give zinc 3 or 4 times a day. Check all supplements for copper (DON " T give him copper in supplements). Limit high copper foods (nuts and organ meats). If you think you could have copper in your water you can get it tested. This should lead to good changes. Copper toxicity is quite serious, with symptoms similar to mercury. Also congratulations: you have the exceptional case where a hair test is VERY important. If you had just " tried chelation " it would not address the copper issue. Another hair test in a few months is something you can also consider. Hopefully others will give advice on titanium, magnesium, and selenium, if any. good wishes, Moria ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 > > Hi, > > > > I just received my hair ananlysis test back and need some help. > > > > according to the test we did not meet the counting rules for mercury > > posioning. However his copper and magnesium levels were elevated at > > the 99% percentile and his selenium was very low almost to the red. > > He also had a high titanium almost to the red. > > > > What does this mean? Any advice on supplements, chelation, ect. > > would be appreciated. > > > > > > Treat him for copper toxicity. The main thing is to give > zinc 3 or 4 times a day. Check all supplements for copper (DON " T give > him copper in supplements). Limit high copper foods (nuts and organ > meats). If you think you could have copper in your water you can get it > tested. > > This should lead to good changes. Copper toxicity is > quite serious, with symptoms similar to mercury. > > Also congratulations: you have the exceptional case where > a hair test is VERY important. If you had just " tried chelation " it > would not address the copper issue. > > Another hair test in a few months is something you can > also consider. > > Hopefully others will give advice on titanium, magnesium, > and selenium, if any. > > good wishes, > Moria > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 > > I agree with Moria... > > > > Start at first with low levels of zinc at first - (i.e. 10 mg Zn 1 > or 2X > > daily). Overdosing on zinc can upregulate metallothionein levels (a > > protein which scavenges Zn) leading to an artificial zinc low in the > > bloodstream, which can cause irritability and possible seizures. I don't believe this is so, no interpretable observations support it, it isn't what people report (who use straight zinc, not zinc plus a lot of other stuff from PFeiffer), and it isn't what anyone who actually knows their physiology would expect to happen. Nor have I seen any test results suggestive of it. > > Gradually build zinc up to as high as 90 mg/day based on cognitive > > performance. Hair analyses in the future should be done to check on > > Cu/Zn ratio until it is brought to the " middle " of the normal range > > (10-13 on the DDI test). > > > > God Bless! > > > > > > > and Moria > > His Zinc levels came back in the yellow around the 86% percentile > should I still supplement zinc at this level? Yes, zinc is one of the elements (calcium being another) that goes up in hair when your body isn't retaining it. Thus high hair zinc more often means low body zinc than high. > > > > I just received my hair ananlysis test back and need some help. > > > > > > according to the test we did not meet the counting rules for > mercury > > > posioning. However his copper and magnesium levels were elevated > at > > > the 99% percentile and his selenium was very low almost to the > red. > > > He also had a high titanium almost to the red. We would need a bit more detail on the test, it may or may not suggest mercury. However it certainly means you want to give him a lot of zinc and molybdenum RIGHT NOW to help the copper come down, and you should see noticeable improvements within a month or two by doing that. Zinc with every meal. Avoid or limit copper foods. .. . . . .. . . . . . > > > What does this mean? Any advice on supplements, chelation, ect. > > > would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Treat him for copper toxicity. The main thing is to give > > zinc 3 or 4 times a day. Check all supplements for copper (DON " T > give > > him copper in supplements). Limit high copper foods (nuts and organ > > meats). If you think you could have copper in your water you can > get it > > tested. > > > > This should lead to good changes. Copper toxicity is > > quite serious, with symptoms similar to mercury. > > > > Also congratulations: you have the exceptional case where > > a hair test is VERY important. If you had just " tried chelation " it > > would not address the copper issue. > > > > Another hair test in a few months is something you can > > also consider. > > > > Hopefully others will give advice on titanium, magnesium, > > and selenium, if any. > > > > good wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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