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Can anyone comment on this for me?

Can we try Valtrex on a 56 pound 9 year old girl? Are there better drugs for

children? Yes, my four year old son is on the Valtrex.

Can the Herpes virus cause developmental delays? Behavioral problems?

Physical or genetic problems? Yes, it can.

I called and requested a packet from Dr. Kendall in Austin, Texas.

Does this doctor deal with this issue? Yes he does, he has treated several

thousand cases now dealing with autistic children.

How do you test for Herpes in a child? You cannot, since the virus lives in the

nerves.

Are there people who believe that the Autistic Spectrum is related to Herpes?

Binstock??? You can put in a search on google and get information that

way. People also think Herpes family of viruses may play a role in Alzhiemers,

and MS.

Finally, has anyone had good results by treating for Herpes in their child? I

have talked to two other parents that have seen definite improvements in their

child doing the anti viral therapy.

Thanks,

in Salt Lake City

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Jennfer

Ruston, Louisiana

The more I read about the Herpes

virus and pregnancy, the more I wonder if my daughter has the virus from her

birth mother.

I do believe that if it is in the mother, then it can be passed to the child.

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In a message dated 9/23/03 3:05:11 PM Central Daylight Time,

BrandtMrse@... writes:

> Can we try Valtrex on a 56 pound 9 year old girl? Are there better drugs

> for

> children?

>

Yes you can safely give Valtrex to a child that size/age but it may not be

the best drug to treat the specific strain she has. It would be best to see a

doctor with experience treating viral problems in children.

> Can the Herpes virus cause developmental delays? Behavioral problems?

>

Yes. Various herpes strains and other viruses have been shown to cause

inflamation in the brain -- specifically in the temporal lobe region -- which

interferes with learning, behavior and sensory input.

> I called and requested a packet from Dr. Kendall in Austin, Texas.

>

> Does this doctor deal with this issue?

>

Another doctor you might want to consider talking to is Dr. Goldberg

in California. His website has some good info -- www.neuroimmunedr.com.

Also, he joins a weekly Tuesday night online chat at his site once a month to

answer questions.

> >How do you test for Herpes in a child?

>

You can run blood titers but there are so many different strains that they

aren't always reliable. Also, if a child's system is so overwhelmed that it

cannot properly fight off the virus, then titers do not show high until several

months into anti-viral treatment when the body can then begin to effectively

fight off the disease and thus show the antibodies (titers).

> Are there people who believe that the Autistic Spectrum is related to

> Herpes?

> Binstock???

>

Dr. Goldberg is convinced that most cases of autism are results of

dysregulated immune systems caused by viral problems. I'm not sure that I'd go

that far

but there certainly seems to be much evidence for the dysregulated immune

system theory. Personally, I think many cases tend to be dysregulated systems

that get worse with various toxins, viruses, bacteria, yeast, etc etc.

> Finally, has anyone had good results by treating for Herpes in their child?

>

My son has made enormous progress over the past 9 months on antiviral

therapy. He started with Valtrex with some minor improvement and switched to

Famvir

with big improvement in motor skills, auditory processing, focus, conceptual

thinking and higher order skills, etc. His HHV6 test showed only slightly

elevated so we're not sure if we're just treating that or some other form of

herpes or another virus that isn't testable yet. It has been such a dramatic

change though that we know we're hitting something.

Gaylen

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If the mother had an outbreak at the time of the delivery, then the hospital

OUGHT to have a done a C-section right away. There would be absolutely no

question of that.

As far as I am aware, you would have seen physical symptoms of herpes in the

newborn. If there were no symptoms present it is extremely unlikely that the

baby contracted the virus. This herpes virus will often kill a newborn and

can also blind a newborn (from getting lesions in the eye). It is very serious

and not likely to have been missed.

You would probably do well to contact a doctor who knows specifically about

genital herpes and ask him/her about the chances of your child having it if you

saw no physical signs of it after birth.

marti

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Hello (and others interested in viral issues),

> The more I read about the Herpes

> virus and pregnancy, the more I wonder if my daughter has the virus

from her

> birth mother.

>

> Can anyone comment on this for me?

>

> Can we try Valtrex on a 56 pound 9 year old girl? Are there better

drugs for

> children?

Okay, I'm going to go off sideways here, once again, and say

that ozone (a contorversial, HIGHLY alternative form

of health care) is considered to be a good anti-viral.

I don't feel up to a short essay about it (try searching on

the word " ozone " in the message archive if you want to read

a few of my short essays).

So, the short of it is that ozone is good for viruses.

I recently (while searching for something else!) read a post

about the protocol to use for herpes, in particular.

I can't find it now (I probably just don't have the

patience--- I'm really tired, sorry.) Anyway, it was

written by Saul Pressman, who knows a lot about ozone

(and sells ozone equipment also). He said that the herpes

" hides " in the spine even after most of it is gone, so

you have to treat right over the base of the spine to get

the last of it. I think that is what he said.

You can join this list (below) and search on " herpes " --

and here is one post to start with -- it is some research

and so on about ozone and herpes. You have to join the

list to be able to read it, though:

ozonetherapy/message/643

good wishes,

Moria

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I called Goldberg's office a couple of months ago and they said they were not

taking new patients.

Jennfer

Ruston, Louisiana

Re: [ ] Genital Herpes/Antiviral Therapy?

In a message dated 9/23/03 3:05:11 PM Central Daylight Time,

BrandtMrse@... writes:

> Can we try Valtrex on a 56 pound 9 year old girl? Are there better drugs

> for

> children?

>

Yes you can safely give Valtrex to a child that size/age but it may not be

the best drug to treat the specific strain she has. It would be best to see a

doctor with experience treating viral problems in children.

> Can the Herpes virus cause developmental delays? Behavioral problems?

>

Yes. Various herpes strains and other viruses have been shown to cause

inflamation in the brain -- specifically in the temporal lobe region -- which

interferes with learning, behavior and sensory input.

> I called and requested a packet from Dr. Kendall in Austin, Texas.

>

> Does this doctor deal with this issue?

>

Another doctor you might want to consider talking to is Dr. Goldberg

in California. His website has some good info -- www.neuroimmunedr.com.

Also, he joins a weekly Tuesday night online chat at his site once a month to

answer questions.

> >How do you test for Herpes in a child?

>

You can run blood titers but there are so many different strains that they

aren't always reliable. Also, if a child's system is so overwhelmed that it

cannot properly fight off the virus, then titers do not show high until

several

months into anti-viral treatment when the body can then begin to effectively

fight off the disease and thus show the antibodies (titers).

> Are there people who believe that the Autistic Spectrum is related to

> Herpes?

> Binstock???

>

Dr. Goldberg is convinced that most cases of autism are results of

dysregulated immune systems caused by viral problems. I'm not sure that I'd

go that far

but there certainly seems to be much evidence for the dysregulated immune

system theory. Personally, I think many cases tend to be dysregulated systems

that get worse with various toxins, viruses, bacteria, yeast, etc etc.

> Finally, has anyone had good results by treating for Herpes in their child?

>

My son has made enormous progress over the past 9 months on antiviral

therapy. He started with Valtrex with some minor improvement and switched to

Famvir

with big improvement in motor skills, auditory processing, focus, conceptual

thinking and higher order skills, etc. His HHV6 test showed only slightly

elevated so we're not sure if we're just treating that or some other form of

herpes or another virus that isn't testable yet. It has been such a dramatic

change though that we know we're hitting something.

Gaylen

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Don't consider this a great loss - we were his patients for almost two years

and the only thing that came out of it is a lot of $$$ and condescending

lectures. FWIW

> I called Goldberg's office a couple of months ago and they said they were

> not taking new patients.

>

> Jennfer

> Ruston, Louisiana

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> So, the short of it is that ozone is good for viruses.

> Anyway, it was written by Saul Pressman, who knows a lot about ozone

> (and sells ozone equipment also). He said that the herpes

> " hides " in the spine even after most of it is gone, so

> you have to treat right over the base of the spine to get

> the last of it.

Just a quick question before I get to your essays. Are you saying that ozone

can actually remove the virus from the body?

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> > So, the short of it is that ozone is good for viruses.

> > Anyway, it was written by Saul Pressman, who knows a lot about ozone

> > (and sells ozone equipment also). He said that the herpes

> > " hides " in the spine even after most of it is gone, so

> > you have to treat right over the base of the spine to get

> > the last of it.

>

> Just a quick question before I get to your essays. Are you saying

that ozone

> can actually remove the virus from the body?

Well, yes and no. The yes is that, in theory, I think ozone is

anti-viral in a general way-- any virus. HOWEVER, I don't have

a lot of practical knowledge of how this applies for people

with various viral issues. I have LITTLE BITS of information,

but not volumes.

For example, a " little bit " : there is someone on

another list I'm on who has lymes disease and is having great

improvements using ozone. (There is also another person with

lymes disease having great improvements with HBOT.)

Ozone is used by several large cities to purify their water

supply. It has eliminated the HIV virus, outside the body,

in tests.

So, one issue is that I don't personally know enough

about if there may be instances where it doesn't work so well

in the body. The example I gave about herpes is a relevant one---

it " hides " in the spine, so unless you treat it just the right

way, you can get relief without really getting RID of it.

There may be lots of issues like this.

FWIW I just ordered a book written by a German MD called

something like " the medical uses of ozone " . It is supposed

to take 6 to 8 weeks to get it. Maybe I'll get smarter

eventually :)

Saul on the ozonetherapy list has a LOT of experience with

practical situations and treatment with ozone. He sells ozone

machines, and seems to have a pretty large database in his

head of cases of people he has worked with, knows personally,

or who he has sold equipment to. It is hard to replace

1st hand experience.

good wishes,

Moria

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Thanks, Moria! I will check into the information you gave me. My son has

been on Pentasa for the viral inflammation in his gut. Dr. Wakefield

told me that that's a good medicine, but he did not know of a way to get rid

of the virus as yet. He told me to keep my son on a maintenance dose of

Pentasa. He said they were working on a permanent cure. That was last year

summer. I will really like to have a better answer than the permanent use of

Pentasa. Thanks very much for sharing the information on ozone. It looks

very promising to me.

moriamerri wrote:

>

> > > So, the short of it is that ozone is good for viruses.

> > > Anyway, it was written by Saul Pressman, who knows a lot about ozone

> > > (and sells ozone equipment also). He said that the herpes

> > > " hides " in the spine even after most of it is gone, so

> > > you have to treat right over the base of the spine to get

> > > the last of it.

> >

> > Just a quick question before I get to your essays. Are you saying

> that ozone

> > can actually remove the virus from the body?

>

> Well, yes and no. The yes is that, in theory, I think ozone is

> anti-viral in a general way-- any virus. HOWEVER, I don't have

> a lot of practical knowledge of how this applies for people

> with various viral issues. I have LITTLE BITS of information,

> but not volumes.

>

> For example, a " little bit " : there is someone on

> another list I'm on who has lymes disease and is having great

> improvements using ozone. (There is also another person with

> lymes disease having great improvements with HBOT.)

>

> Ozone is used by several large cities to purify their water

> supply. It has eliminated the HIV virus, outside the body,

> in tests.

>

> So, one issue is that I don't personally know enough

> about if there may be instances where it doesn't work so well

> in the body. The example I gave about herpes is a relevant one---

> it " hides " in the spine, so unless you treat it just the right

> way, you can get relief without really getting RID of it.

> There may be lots of issues like this.

>

> FWIW I just ordered a book written by a German MD called

> something like " the medical uses of ozone " . It is supposed

> to take 6 to 8 weeks to get it. Maybe I'll get smarter

> eventually :)

>

> Saul on the ozonetherapy list has a LOT of experience with

> practical situations and treatment with ozone. He sells ozone

> machines, and seems to have a pretty large database in his

> head of cases of people he has worked with, knows personally,

> or who he has sold equipment to. It is hard to replace

> 1st hand experience.

>

> good wishes,

> Moria

>

>

> =======================================================

>

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