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In a message dated 12/5/99 9:23:56 AM Central Standard Time,

pempets@... writes:

<< I think I'm really overrun with it. I've got " Jock Itch " as it's commonly

referred to...Tinea Pruris, among other symtoms. Is this related? I'm just

starting my attack with diet, etc. Any suggestions. Folks?

Thanks,

in Maine >>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Have you tried tea tree oil?

Edith

[Guest guest]

Oh, ...there is no defense needed for Truth. The Victor has already

been declared(isn't anyone here and He does fine without any of " our "

position-shaking revelations). : ) Now to what ails you. Wear boxer

shorts? Or tight fitting jeans? Like us gals, if we have a vaginal

problem...it isn't ONLY there; guys and gals both have to deal with candida

through diet/antifungals/supplements. Maybe there would be some relief for

you in your private area if dryness and looseness is promoted...if that is

a consideration for you. I know gals are told to wear cotton gutchies and

loose fitting clothes so as to not provide a breeding environment favorable

to the " critters " which is moist and warm. Think Prince has that

problem when he wears his skirt? teeheeeeeee Okay...no one object to my

stupid humor, now. Jock itch probably is very annoying and hope you get

something to help very soon.

Joyce : )

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> From: pempets@...

> candidiasisonelist

> Subject: New to List

> Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 10:23 AM

>

> From: pempets@...

>

> Hello, all. I am new to the list.

> I'd like to get alot more reportage on Candidiasis and related topics

than the Sermonette spate I've followed for a few days here! I can

understand an occasional reference to someone's belief system as relates to

their condition (such as " Thank, God! It worked! " ), but these vollies,

recriminations and defending are getting bizarre. At times entertaining,

but very little info coming through as folks rush to do battle for their

beliefs philosphical, spiritual & otherwise. Besides, truly powerful forces

do not require any defense.

>

> Now, how about that yeast infection I think I got...hmmmmm?

>

> I think I'm really overrun with it. I've got " Jock Itch " as it's

commonly referred to...Tinea Pruris, among other symtoms. Is this related?

I'm just starting my attack with diet, etc. Any suggestions. Folks?

> Thanks,

> in Maine

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In a message dated 12/5/99 1:47:50 PM Central Standard Time,

pempets@... writes:

<< But I never tried Tea Tree Oil?? How would that be applied? Right on the

skin in the

crease of the leg? Can you drink it in diluted form? I've heard it's pretty

concentrated. >>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In Sir Winter's book, he describes how wonderful tea oil is in many

uses

such as candida etc. He says to apply external and internal but not knowing

the right amount etc, I wouldn't advise the internal part.

Edith

[Guest guest]

Thanks Joyce & Edith for your comments.

I do in fact wear boxer shorts & keep pretty dry, especially since I work out of

my home

and can wear loose fitting things most of the time.

But I never tried Tea Tree Oil?? How would that be applied? Right on the skin

in the

crease of the leg? Can you drink it in diluted form? I've heard it's pretty

concentrated.

What about applying vinegar? Any sense in that?

Thanks,

in Maine

Es9525@... wrote:

> From: Es9525@...

>

> In a message dated 12/5/99 9:23:56 AM Central Standard Time,

> pempets@... writes:

>

> << I think I'm really overrun with it. I've got " Jock Itch " as it's commonly

> referred to...Tinea Pruris, among other symtoms. Is this related? I'm just

> starting my attack with diet, etc. Any suggestions. Folks?

> Thanks,

> in Maine >>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Have you tried tea tree oil?

>

> Edith

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Joyce nicely put. Myra

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> Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 10:23 AM

>

> From: pempets@...

>

> Hello, all. I am new to the list..

> I'd like to get alot more reportage on Candidiasis and related topics

than the Sermonette spate I've followed for a few days here! I can

understand an occasional reference to someone's belief system as relates to

their condition (such as " Thank, God! It worked! " ), but these vollies,

recriminations and defending are getting bizarre. At times entertaining,

but very little info coming through as folks rush to do battle for their

beliefs philosphical, spiritual & otherwise. Besides, truly powerful forces

do not require any defense..

>

> Now, how about that yeast infection I think I got...hmmmmm?

>

> I think I'm really overrun with it. I've got " Jock Itch " as it's

commonly referred to...Tinea Pruris, among other symtoms. Is this related?

I'm just starting my attack with diet, etc. Any suggestions. Folks?

> Thanks,

> in Maine

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Do not drink tea tree oil. It is topical only. They also make it in

powdered form that may bring some relief.

Robin

Re: New to List

>From: Calderon <pempets@...>

>

>Thanks Joyce & Edith for your comments.

>

>I do in fact wear boxer shorts & keep pretty dry, especially since I work

out of my home

>and can wear loose fitting things most of the time.

>But I never tried Tea Tree Oil?? How would that be applied? Right on the

skin in the

>crease of the leg? Can you drink it in diluted form? I've heard it's pretty

>concentrated.

>What about applying vinegar? Any sense in that?

>Thanks,

> in Maine

>

>Es9525@... wrote:

>

>> From: Es9525@...

>>

>> In a message dated 12/5/99 9:23:56 AM Central Standard Time,

>> pempets@... writes:

>>

>> << I think I'm really overrun with it. I've got " Jock Itch " as it's

commonly

>> referred to...Tinea Pruris, among other symtoms. Is this related? I'm

just

>> starting my attack with diet, etc. Any suggestions. Folks?

>> Thanks,

>> in Maine >>

>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>> Have you tried tea tree oil?

>>

>> Edith

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In a message dated 12/5/99 10:39:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

burrows4@... writes:

<< http://www.bragg.com/ I bought a bottle of the vinegar at a neighborhood

>>

You guys really are idiots. No wonder you're still sick.

Vinegar+candidA=problems

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Very welcome, ! I've heard of Tea Tree Oil being used internally

though the bottle I once had(Nature's Sunshine) said for external use only

on the label. (Here is the URL but little information is there:

http://www.naturessunshine.com/ProductArea/LabelSheet.asp?al_ProductNum=1777

& al_PromNum=0 Maybe a search at http://www.google.com for Tea Tree Oil or

Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar may help you more than I am able to do.) That

bottle had a glass tube connected to the lid that was used for application

after dipping in the bottle. If I recall correctly, it did burn

momentarily when applied to a break in the skin so you may want to try a

small area first. It did heal cuts but I do not know exactly how it will

work with your situation. As far as the vinegar...I would think it could

be used for jock itch but may sting also. People put it in bath water so

maybe a diluted solution would help in trying it initially to see how your

body responds. I've also heard of diluted hydrogen peroxide being used

with men externally in that area, so that one might be something to

consider for you, also. I know this has been addressed on a candida

forum(their search function is down) but you may want to scroll down the

subjects in the archives and see if anything interests you there. (That

URL is:

http://www.healthyawareness.com/Candida/) Actually, I just noticed that

someone posted about Jock Itch within the past few posts. I hope you get

relief real soon, .

In Christ,

Joyce

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> From: Calderon <pempets@...>

> candidiasisonelist

> Subject: Re: New to List

> Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 2:59 PM

>

> From: Calderon <pempets@...>

>

> Thanks Joyce & Edith for your comments.

>

> I do in fact wear boxer shorts & keep pretty dry, especially since I work

out of my home

> and can wear loose fitting things most of the time.

> But I never tried Tea Tree Oil?? How would that be applied? Right on

the skin in the

> crease of the leg? Can you drink it in diluted form? I've heard it's

pretty

> concentrated.

> What about applying vinegar? Any sense in that?

> Thanks,

> in Maine

>

> Es9525@... wrote:

>

> > From: Es9525@...

> >

> > In a message dated 12/5/99 9:23:56 AM Central Standard Time,

> > pempets@... writes:

> >

> > << I think I'm really overrun with it. I've got " Jock Itch " as it's

commonly

> > referred to...Tinea Pruris, among other symtoms. Is this related? I'm

just

> > starting my attack with diet, etc. Any suggestions. Folks?

> > Thanks,

> > in Maine >>

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Have you tried tea tree oil?

> >

> > Edith

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Dear Joyce,

I use vinegar, it works great for me. I never heard of Braggs where would I

get that. I douch with it and water. I also drink it a Table spoon or more

in a full glass of water. When I read up on vinegar it said, that it killed

yeast and bacteria. It was stronger than Hydrogen Peroxide they said. Any

way I have found it to normalize me even when I was really bad, almost

immediatly. You are right I've used Tea tree oil too with good results.

I've been reading the book by Hulda . She is great and some really

good ideas. She has a diet in her book that is nothing but common sence and

would help with all of the cravings. I am trying it right now. I do add

cold veggies on ice when I get really hungrey. A lot of veggies are free on

a diabetic diet. She also lists a variety of things to drink. There is

more of a choice I've found with her book. Between the diet and vinegar I

am doing really well.

Cheerfully,

Myra

Re: New to List

> Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 2:59 PM

>

> From: Calderon <pempets@...>

>

> Thanks Joyce & Edith for your comments..

>

> I do in fact wear boxer shorts & keep pretty dry, especially since I work

out of my home

> and can wear loose fitting things most of the time..

> But I never tried Tea Tree Oil?? How would that be applied? Right on

the skin in the

> crease of the leg? Can you drink it in diluted form? I've heard it's

pretty

> concentrated..

> What about applying vinegar? Any sense in that?

> Thanks,

> in Maine

>

> Es9525@... wrote:

>

> > From: Es9525@...

> >

> > In a message dated 12/5/99 9:23:56 AM Central Standard Time,

> > pempets@... writes:

> >

> > << I think I'm really overrun with it. I've got " Jock Itch " as it's

commonly

> > referred to...Tinea Pruris, among other symtoms. Is this related? I'm

just

> > starting my attack with diet, etc. Any suggestions. Folks?

> > Thanks,

> > in Maine >>

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Have you tried tea tree oil?

> >

> > Edith

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Hi Myra,

I should have given the address on Braggs before. I'm sorry. It is:

http://www.bragg.com/ I bought a bottle of the vinegar at a neighborhood

herb store so probably if you didn't want to purchase it online, a

supplement store should either carry it locally or be able to get it for

you. It is more spendy than grocery store brands. A book that is on

Braggs ACV covers why it is beneficial to use natural over distilled. A

quart cost me a little over $4 in store. I drink it in water also but less

than what you do. It does seem to have had a positive result for me though

some people insist it is not to be used at all with candida imbalance. I

don't have vaginal problems now so I've not used the ACV or anything else

to douche.

I haven't read the book by Hulda but might have something in my

bookmarks on it. Thank you for sharing how it is helping you. I'm going

to have to check on that more tomorrow.

It's wonderful to hear that you have improved so much. The ACV seems to

help both of us and I'll look for the book by . Thanks so much, Myra.

Yours in Christ,

Joyce : )

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> From: Myra <jdrsr@...>

> candidiasisonelist

> Subject: RE: New to List

> Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 9:46 PM

>

> From: " Myra " <jdrsr@...>

>

> Dear Joyce,

>

> I use vinegar, it works great for me. I never heard of Braggs where

would I

> get that. I douch with it and water. I also drink it a Table spoon or

more

> in a full glass of water. When I read up on vinegar it said, that it

killed

> yeast and bacteria. It was stronger than Hydrogen Peroxide they said.

Any

> way I have found it to normalize me even when I was really bad, almost

> immediatly. You are right I've used Tea tree oil too with good results.

> I've been reading the book by Hulda . She is great and some really

> good ideas. She has a diet in her book that is nothing but common sence

and

> would help with all of the cravings. I am trying it right now. I do add

> cold veggies on ice when I get really hungrey. A lot of veggies are free

on

> a diabetic diet. She also lists a variety of things to drink. There is

> more of a choice I've found with her book. Between the diet and vinegar

I

> am doing really well.

>

> Cheerfully,

> Myra

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Very nicely put . I too would appreciate it if this list could focus

on the Health issues and not bring spirituality into it at all.

Have you read the book Eat Right for Your Type by Dr. D'Adamo? I think if

you take your blood type into consideration when adjusting your diet for

Candida, you will see better results.

By way of testimonial I would like to recommend you try olive leaf extract,

I have been taking it for six months and I find it has cleared up a lot of

symptoms for me. My son had Jock Itch, he is also taking the extract and it

appears to be helping him as well. We get the product on the internet at

www.otrecure.com

I hope you find this helpful.

In Health,

Sincerely,

New to List

> From: pempets@...

>

> Hello, all. I am new to the list.

> I'd like to get alot more reportage on Candidiasis and related topics than

the Sermonette spate I've followed for a few days here! I can understand an

occasional reference to someone's belief system as relates to their

condition (such as " Thank, God! It worked! " ), but these vollies,

recriminations and defending are getting bizarre. At times entertaining, but

very little info coming through as folks rush to do battle for their beliefs

philosphical, spiritual & otherwise. Besides, truly powerful forces do not

require any defense.

>

> Now, how about that yeast infection I think I got...hmmmmm?

>

> I think I'm really overrun with it. I've got " Jock Itch " as it's commonly

referred to...Tinea Pruris, among other symtoms. Is this related? I'm just

starting my attack with diet, etc. Any suggestions. Folks?

> Thanks,

> in Maine

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Hi Alison,

My daughter was diagnosed with systemic JRA at 9 months old, she is the

youngest I have ever heard of actually. It is very hard and scary in the

beginning. If you need to talk you can respond thru the list, thru my own

email address, or IM me as I see you have AOL also. Talk to you soon, n

[Guest guest]

n, thanks for the support. It's so scary to get such a diagnosis at

such a young age! How old is your daughter now? How is she doing? Is she

currently on any medications? Well I hope all is well for you right now, talk

to you soon

Take care,

Alison

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the welcome Georgina! I must say that I feel so fortunate to

have found this group! Everyones responses keeps getting me all teary eyed!!

Finding support from people who truly understand my feelings is so wonderful!

Thanks again everyone, for the support

Alison

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Oh, I just now read your message to the group and it brought tears to my

eyes. It reminded me a lot of when my son joshua first got sick, 4 and a

half years ago. When I got down to the end of your note, I was so ahppy

to hear of the great improvements your daughter has been making in

recent days. You must all be overjoyed that she is finally getting well

again! The right medicines can make such a big difference. That was

scary, how your daughter responded to the IV pulse steroids. You must

have been very worried. I've never heard of such a strong negative

reaction like that before. My son went into the hospital last month, as

we were going to do the IV pulsing, but the doctors decided that he

didn't need it at this time. He's been taking the steroids orally since

he first got sick but only had them by IV when he was hospitalized the

very first time.

It sounds very promising, that your daughter is able to handle alternate

day steroids. Most of the side effects that people talk about regarding

prednisone don't become bothersome if it's taken every other day instead

of daily, so she is very lucky. She'll be able to get all the benefits

without some of the unwanted side effects like slowed growth, Cushingoid

syndrome, etc. I hope it all works out well and that Jayda continues to

improve. By the way, that is such a beautiful name Very unique!

You're right. We never really know if or when there might be another

flare up ... so just take it day by day and try to enjoy things while

your daughter is feeling well Don't worry too much. It sounds like

she has good medical care and is getting good treatment. Let's hope she

does really well and keeps improving, with no setbacks.

Nice to meet you, !

Take care,

Georgina

[Guest guest]

Hi Alison,

Holly is 6 now. She is presently taking methotrexate, prednisone, vioxx,

and prilosec. She is going thru a mild to moderate flare right now. But

things are going okay :-) Talk to you soon, n

[Guest guest]

Alison and JVR124@...,

Welcome to the Group - you have found the right place. Most of us have been

through similar trials, and as my son Damien went down with systemic JRA at

9 months (he is now 5 years old), I think I know just how you feel.

According to the experts in the UK, Damien is in the worst 10% of cases.

I would suggest the most important thing for you to bear in mind now is that

the disease must be treated aggressively to keep the child as mobile as

possible. We have so far suffered few major side-effects from the meds

that I can recall and as you note, when you see the difference the IV

steroids make, it is little short of fantastic.

Sorry that you are going through all this, but at least you have a few

sympathetic, knowledgeable and understanding shoulders to lean on now.

Wishing you all the very best of luck,

Oliver

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> From: JaydasProudMama@...

>

> Hi everyone, my name is Alison and I have a beautiful little girl named

Jayda

> who is almost 17 months old. Ever since August Jayda has been very sick.

> She had daily fevers of at least 103 degrees, a horrible rash, she

wouldn't

> eat, or walk or even stand. She rarely smiled or laughed...it was

horrible.

> For months we took her to the hospital w/ no diagnosis. Finally in

October

> she tested positive for a form of hepatitis called CMV (cidamegovirus/sp?)

So

> she was admitted into the hospital towards the end of November(AGAIN) to

> begin an IV therapy antibiotic called Gancyclovere. She was on this for

> about 2 1/2 weeks (and her IV infultrated 4 times during the treament,

just

> adding to the misery) but her symtoms never went away. An infectious

disease

> specialist had been following her case since October, and after the IV

> treatment failed her referred us on a whim to a juvenile rheumatoid

arthritis

> specialist @ Childrens hospital. With in 10 minutes the Dr diagnosed my

> daughter w/ what he called a " very severe case " of systemic onset JRA. To

> add to that she still had hepatitis and was severely anemic, and was still

> showing signs of liver disfunction. So he put her on three different

meds:

> Neoral which she's taking .25 ML twice daily, Prednisolone which she takes

7

> ML every other day, and Indomethacin which she takes 2 ML 3 times daily.

> Jayda was diagnosed just a week from this past Monday, and was in the

> hospital last week while she got a 3 day treatment of very high dose

steroids

> (which by the way made her go completely Crazy! It was frightening to see

her

> reaction) so this is still EXTREMELY new to me, and I am very overwhelmed.

> On one hand I am SO relieved to Finally have a diagnosis, but at the same

> time I'm terified at what we found out. The doc said he hadn't dealt w/

many

> kids as young as Jayda, but said he is very hopefull that she will respond

> positively to the meds. Ever since Christmas night we have seen a

dramatic

> change in her behavior. She's walking (she's almost having to learn to

walk

> again) and is eating, and she's smiling and laughing! My baby is giving me

> hugs and kisses again, and hasn't had a fever or the rash, and doesn't cry

> when I touch her. I am so encouraged by her progress, yet very weary b/c

I

> was warned that she could relaps (sp?) @ any time. I was very excited to

see

> this list, b/c I would love to learn more about this, and meet people who

> understand what I am feeling, and going through. I am really looking

foward

> to getting to know everyone...hope to talk to you all soon, and sorry this

> letter was so long!

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Alison

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Alison! I know all too well what you are feeling. It seems that this list

will be a great support team as well as for information (Thanks Georgina!) I

hope that Jayda is still doing well!

Hugs,

Angie

[ ] new to list

> From: JaydasProudMama@...

>

> Hi everyone, my name is Alison and I have a beautiful little girl named

Jayda

> who is almost 17 months old. Ever since August Jayda has been very sick.

> She had daily fevers of at least 103 degrees, a horrible rash, she

wouldn't

> eat, or walk or even stand. She rarely smiled or laughed...it was

horrible.

> For months we took her to the hospital w/ no diagnosis. Finally in

October

> she tested positive for a form of hepatitis called CMV (cidamegovirus/sp?)

So

> she was admitted into the hospital towards the end of November(AGAIN) to

> begin an IV therapy antibiotic called Gancyclovere. She was on this for

> about 2 1/2 weeks (and her IV infultrated 4 times during the treament,

just

> adding to the misery) but her symtoms never went away. An infectious

disease

> specialist had been following her case since October, and after the IV

> treatment failed her referred us on a whim to a juvenile rheumatoid

arthritis

> specialist @ Childrens hospital. With in 10 minutes the Dr diagnosed my

> daughter w/ what he called a " very severe case " of systemic onset JRA. To

> add to that she still had hepatitis and was severely anemic, and was still

> showing signs of liver disfunction. So he put her on three different

meds:

> Neoral which she's taking .25 ML twice daily, Prednisolone which she takes

7

> ML every other day, and Indomethacin which she takes 2 ML 3 times daily.

> Jayda was diagnosed just a week from this past Monday, and was in the

> hospital last week while she got a 3 day treatment of very high dose

steroids

> (which by the way made her go completely Crazy! It was frightening to see

her

> reaction) so this is still EXTREMELY new to me, and I am very overwhelmed.

> On one hand I am SO relieved to Finally have a diagnosis, but at the same

> time I'm terified at what we found out. The doc said he hadn't dealt w/

many

> kids as young as Jayda, but said he is very hopefull that she will respond

> positively to the meds. Ever since Christmas night we have seen a

dramatic

> change in her behavior. She's walking (she's almost having to learn to

walk

> again) and is eating, and she's smiling and laughing! My baby is giving me

> hugs and kisses again, and hasn't had a fever or the rash, and doesn't cry

> when I touch her. I am so encouraged by her progress, yet very weary b/c

I

> was warned that she could relaps (sp?) @ any time. I was very excited to

see

> this list, b/c I would love to learn more about this, and meet people who

> understand what I am feeling, and going through. I am really looking

foward

> to getting to know everyone...hope to talk to you all soon, and sorry this

> letter was so long!

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Alison

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[Guest guest]

My daughter has epilepsy and drinks. I wish she wouldn't. Alcohol INCREASES

the effectiveness of Depakote. But of course it wears off and your body

reacts. Birth control pills decrease the effectiveness of Depakote. She had

to increase by half a pill at night.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/24/2000 12:50:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,

lunargirl87@... writes:

<< Actually, I have a question for everyone out there. Does anyone know if

drinking alcohol is okay for people with epilepsy. My mom says it's not

okay, that it decreases the effectiveness of the medication I'm on, and I'm

wondering if that's true. I drink, and I'm not a heavy drinker, but I'm only

20 and I like to have a drink with my friends sometimes. I hope to hear from

someone,

Sasha >>

My son also has epilepsy, Sasha......... alcohol and seizure control

medicine don't mix.

You are setting yourself up for big trouble.

Ask your doctor, your pharmacist, do a web search for the drugs you are

taking to control your seizures and see for yourself what the cautions are.

Maybe you should consider asking your friends why they want you to

further endanger your life by encouraging you to drink alcohol.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/24/2000 7:28:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Kingconndb@... writes:

<< From: Kingconndb@...

My daughter has epilepsy and drinks. I wish she wouldn't. Alcohol INCREASES

the effectiveness of Depakote. But of course it wears off and your body

reacts. Birth control pills decrease the effectiveness of Depakote. She had

to increase by half a pill at night. >>

My son also has epilepsy, Sasha......... alcohol and seizure control medicine

don't mix.

You are setting yourself up for big trouble.

Ask your doctor, your pharmacist, do a web search for the drugs you are

taking to control your seizures and see for yourself what the cautions are.

Maybe you should consider asking your friends why they want you to

further endanger your life by encouraging you to drink alcohol.

[Guest guest]

> From: Kingconndb@...

>

> My daughter has epilepsy and drinks. I wish she wouldn't. Alcohol INCREASES

> the effectiveness of Depakote.

Actually, it's more accurate to say that it increases the sedation effect,

which is more like a common side effect, not efficiency of the medication. The

main point is that the instructions that come with Depakote specifically state

that it should NOT be mixed with alcohol. One way of looking at it is that a

person on Depakote will respond to one drink as if it were two or three. While

I was on Depakote, I generally didn't drink, and when I did, it was a very

small amount, e.g., a couple sips of beer (usually somebody else's).

[Guest guest]

Amy,

I encourage you to make yourself familiar with herbs and making herbal teas.

I purchase whole, bulk herbs from the local holistic store. A great book is

" Herbs of Life " Tierra. Good luck to your father on his journey to

wellness. Foggs

[Guest guest]

Amy

Essiac tea is good for all cancer, so feel free to give it to him. It should

be taken in morning or night on fairly empty stomach. The directions are on

the bottles. There is nothing in it that can hurt him and it could make him

more comfortable. There are many other things to do that will build his

immune system like mgn-3, vitamin c, Co Q 10, juice carrot juice, beets,

celery all together and drink all he can get down. There are many great

books on routine to help him, check with a good local health food store. Find

one that is simple to follow and understand by someone who has kicked their

cancer. Keep the faith anything can happen and will with a great attitude.

Pray a lot.

God Bless

Ann

[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear about your Grandfather's leukemia. In all of her books,

Dr. suggest two sources for all illnesses: parasites and toxins.

Of leukemia, she says " Change your galvanized pipes to PVC plastic. If

you believe you already have plastic pipes or all copper (which leads to

leukemia...) you will need to search every inch of plumbing for a very

short piece of galvinized pipe left in the system! A piece as short as a

2 inch T or Y can be causing all the trouble... "

She adds " after finding the cadmium, start on the kidney cleanse. Your

might miss the cadmium problem if you don't attend to it first. Also

remove all metal from your mouth... " ---page 211 The Cure For All

Diseases

" Remember that azo dyes are also responsible for an elevated alkaline

phosphatase and LDH on the blood tests. If yours are elevated, let this

galvanize you into action...avoid all dyes... " ---page 119 The Cure For

All Advanced Cancers

" When the White Blood Cell (WBC) count is much too high, over 15,000, it

may represent leukemia. The simple step of changing copper water pipes

often corrects the problem in its early stages. But when the WBC is over

30,000, much more must be done quickly.

" removing all plastic and metal from teeth, killing parasites and

bacteria can reduce the count to 20,000 in ten days. Removing all dyes

brings it down further. At this point it is important to provide

selenium and vitamin A. Your WBCs need these to battle

pathogens... " ---page 213 The Cure For All Advanced Diseases

These solutions are relatively simple (in concept), and her books are

often available either through several internet sources, or even at your

local bookstore.

Hope this helps.

Marve

From:

" Carl & Amy Winston " <winston@...>

Hello everyone...

I just joined the list in hopes of learning everything I can. My

Grandfather has leukemia and has gone through the chemo. It's not looking

very good for him and we are grabbing at strings to learn all we can about

anything. I was searching through the endless sites on the internet about

this terrible disease and found something called Essiac. Has anyone heard

of this or know anything about it? It sounds very interesting. I would

love to hear anyone's experiences with this or anything other treatment,

etc...

He's in the hospital now and the doctor has told us that it's just a matter

of weeks now, but he is feeling pretty good, all things considered and I

just can't imagine giving up.

Thanks for listening and thanks in advance for any information you can send.

Take Care,

Amy