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At 10:41 15.05.99 -0400, you wrote:

> Hi,

I was wondering if you can purchase the ingredients for this cleanse

already combined.

Try here :

http://www..ch

which is the home page of Dr. Research Association.

I think they are selling all remedies.

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On 20 May 99, at 10:36, Dusan Stojkovic wrote:

>> I was wondering if you can purchase the ingredients for this cleanse

>> already combined.

>

> Try here :

>

> http://www..ch

>

> which is the home page of Dr. Research Association.

>

> I think they are selling all remedies.

Yep, that´s correct. I myself bought the ingredients for the kidney

cleanse from there. Have not started it yet though, as I decided to

do the Q10 and mop up treatment first.

Best regards, Ulf

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The glycerine is simply to make it easier to take. Omit it or

reduce as you like.

At 04:41 AM 4/7/00 -0400, you wrote:

hi,

I'm new here. I have done Dr. 's parasite cleanse and now I am

doing the kidney cleanse, but I am eating my regular rather poor

diet. Is the glycerine necessary for the recipe? It seems to make

it

sickly sweet.

any other advice on getting the most out of my kidney cleanse? (liver

cleanse comes next)

Thanks, julie

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Dr. no longer recommends glycerin in the kidney cleanse recipe.

On page 560 of her latest book, " The Cure For All Cancers " , she says;

" Previous versions of this recipe included vegetable glycerin.

Recently I have been unable to find a source free from asbestos and

silicone. Omit it. "

> >hi,

> >

> >I'm new here. I have done Dr. 's parasite cleanse and now I am

> >doing the kidney cleanse, but I am eating my regular rather poor

> >diet. Is the glycerine necessary for the recipe? It seems to make

it

> >sickly sweet.

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thanks.

>Dr. no longer recommends glycerin in the kidney cleanse recipe.

>

>On page 560 of her latest book, " The Cure For All Cancers " , she says;

>

> " Previous versions of this recipe included vegetable glycerin.

>Recently I have been unable to find a source free from asbestos and

>silicone. Omit it. "

>

>

>

>

>> >hi,

>> >

>> >I'm new here. I have done Dr. 's parasite cleanse and now I am

>> >doing the kidney cleanse, but I am eating my regular rather poor

>> >diet. Is the glycerine necessary for the recipe? It seems to make

>it

>> >sickly sweet.

>

>

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That should have read, " The Cure For All Advanced Cancers " , not " The

Cure For All Cancers " ...sorry for any confusion that little omission

caused.

> thanks.

>

> >Dr. no longer recommends glycerin in the kidney cleanse

recipe.

> >

> >On page 560 of her latest book, " The Cure For All Cancers " , she

says;

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In a message dated 08/23/2000 8:53:51 AM Central Daylight Time,

moriam@... writes:

<< Hi ,

I would recommend that you try Dr Schulze's cleanse.

When I first read the directions I thought it sounded hard

[because it involves a juice fast], but now it straighforward

as I've had time to try it all.

To get directions and a catalog call 800-HERBDOC and ask

for info. They sell all his preparations, including the

stuff you need for a kidney/bladder cleanse. I suggest

reading about it to get familiar with it first. If it

sounds too hard, I suggest you modify it and then get on

with it. Best to do something even if not perfectly.

[The program does include steeping herbs, but you can

buy them already mixed together.]

>>

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http://ad.webprovider.com/ad.html for excellent reading

and www.southernbotanicals.com to order Schulze products.

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ejohns9525@... wrote:

http://ad.webprovider.com/ad.html for excellent reading

and www.southernbotanicals.com to order Schulze products.

EJ

========

Please note that www.southernbotanicals.com may LOOK like

it is Dr Schulze's site but it is NOT. There are a number

of site's which appear to be endorsed by Dr Schulze, but

are not. They may make great herbal preparations, I don't

know. If you want to order from Dr Schulze, call 800-HERBDOC.

There are many companies using copies of his formulas. I

don't know if any of them do a good job or not, but I resent

when it appears as is it is Dr Schulze's company.

[e.g. some sites have his picture and his writing. You would

have to really be looking for it to realize that the company

has no connection with Dr Schulze.]

Again, some of these companies may make great stuff, I don't

know.

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Southern Botanicals was on Sam Biser's list (he did a number

of in-depth interviews of Dr Schulze, and became one of his

ardent supporters) of 'approved' sources for the herbs, and

for pre-prepared formulas. To my knowledge, they have NEVER

clamed to be 'Dr. Schulzes site', though some may choose to

interpret the presence of his picture as such a cliam.

Re: kidney cleanse

> ejohns9525@... wrote:

> http://ad.webprovider.com/ad.html for excellent reading

> and www.southernbotanicals.com to order Schulze

products.

> EJ

>

> ========

>

> Please note that www.southernbotanicals.com may LOOK like

> it is Dr Schulze's site but it is NOT. There are a number

> of site's which appear to be endorsed by Dr Schulze, but

> are not. They may make great herbal preparations, I don't

> know. If you want to order from Dr Schulze, call

800-HERBDOC.

> There are many companies using copies of his formulas. I

> don't know if any of them do a good job or not, but I

resent

> when it appears as is it is Dr Schulze's company.

> [e.g. some sites have his picture and his writing. You

would

> have to really be looking for it to realize that the

company

> has no connection with Dr Schulze.]

> Again, some of these companies may make great stuff, I

don't

> know.

>

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Hi Kate;

A year ago when I still needed convincing about Hulda's programs, I

researched kidney herbs and remedies on the web. I spent about a

week doing it. I came away holding Hulda and her kidney cleanse

formula in VERY high regard after that eye opener. What it taught me

is that Hulda had done her homework. And that she had put together

some of the best of the best.

I,too, was surprised at how good the kidney tea tasted. I don't

remember in particular what the black cherry did for the kidneys, but

I went right on the cleanse after that bit of research and have

repeated it many times since.

I don't recall if it was a newsletter or a video, but somewhere this

past year Hulda mentioned that you could use the black cherry as a

sweetener when baking.

Oh...I did just remember something...I had asked the folks at my

local health food store about the black cherry and one clerk said

that a woman she sold only one bottle to, cured her gout with it.

> I'm on day 12 of the kidney cleanse and just about to make the

second batch with my frozen herbs from the first batch. The second

batch uses only 6 C of water instead of 10 C. Do I still use a whole

8oz bottle of black cherry concentrate? Is there something about the

black cherry or is it mostly for flavor?

>

> Kate :~)

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> I'm on day 12 of the kidney cleanse and just about to make the second batch

> with my frozen herbs from the first batch. The second batch uses only 6 C

of

> water instead of 10 C. Do I still use a whole 8oz bottle of black cherry

> concentrate? Is there something about the black cherry or is it mostly for

> flavor?

>

> Kate :~)

I have always used the whole bottle, but I do think it is mostly for flavor.

Jan

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In a message dated 7/26/2001 9:11:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

mmgg@... writes:

> a kidney cleanse with the following herbs: Uva Ursi, White Oak Bark,

> Juniper Berries, Ginger, Dandelion Root, Marshallow Root, Gravel Root, and

> Lobelia.

Would you please let me know the portions, or is this already in a bottle?

This sounds great! Rose. (61)

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mmgg@... writes:

> a kidney cleanse with the following herbs: Uva Ursi, White Oak Bark,

> Juniper Berries, Ginger, Dandelion Root, Marshallow Root, Gravel Root, and

> Lobelia.

Would you please let me know the portions, or is this already in a bottle?

This sounds great! Rose. (61)

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Gail,

Hi, I'm new here~but I have had direct experience.

<<<

What do the kidneys have to do with mood swings, night sweets, and

fatigue? Can the kidneys really effect the hormonal balance?

<<<

I had extreme irritation & my chiro checked me & my kidneys were

" dropped " & usually one or both of my ovaries. I told him I just wanted

to bite people's head off at the least thing. He told me the kidneys

filter the hormones & when they are not working properly, the the bad

hormones that should have been flushed just recycle themselves & you feel

the hormone yikes!

So he manually lifted them when needed. I did feel better & eventually

could tell by my atttitude when they would drop --also by the feeling in

my body too.

One of the key ways to tell if your kidneys are not functioning properly

is the " impatient driver " . If you just can't stand for cars to do

" stupid " things & are constantly yelling at them, then get your kidneys

checked.

I also have a massage for the kidneys (also a thyroid point-so there is

your clue for the night sweats-you might check your thyroid): Right under

the collar bone about an inch down, are 2 accupressure points called

Kidney 27's also Brain Buttons in Brain Gym (in case you want to look

them up). Massage of these as many times a day as possible will help the

kidneys. They usually will be sore. Another way to tell if you have found

the right point is that when holding K 27's you can move your neck from

side or side & feel the connected muscle moving under your fingers.

Interestingly enough this is also a brain energy point :o) So there is a

clue to your brain energy.

You can use magnets on those spots. I use acc-magnets (gold plated found

at http://www.powersleeper.com) Dot side (N pole) on L & Smooth side (S

Pole) on R. Where till the skin itches & then leave off for a day or so &

re-apply.

Another kidney thing is to soak you feet in 1 bottle of peroxide w/ an

equal amount of pure water added for 40 minutes. This oxidates the

kidneys. You could feel nauseated but keep it up the whole 40 minutes.

You can grip the underside of your wrist for nausea. Repeat as needed

daily.

Hope this helps. I use Touch For Health by Dr. Thie

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Gail,

Hi, I'm new here~but I have had direct experience.

<<<

What do the kidneys have to do with mood swings, night sweets, and

fatigue? Can the kidneys really effect the hormonal balance?

<<<

I had extreme irritation & my chiro checked me & my kidneys were

" dropped " & usually one or both of my ovaries. I told him I just wanted

to bite people's head off at the least thing. He told me the kidneys

filter the hormones & when they are not working properly, the the bad

hormones that should have been flushed just recycle themselves & you feel

the hormone yikes!

So he manually lifted them when needed. I did feel better & eventually

could tell by my atttitude when they would drop --also by the feeling in

my body too.

One of the key ways to tell if your kidneys are not functioning properly

is the " impatient driver " . If you just can't stand for cars to do

" stupid " things & are constantly yelling at them, then get your kidneys

checked.

I also have a massage for the kidneys (also a thyroid point-so there is

your clue for the night sweats-you might check your thyroid): Right under

the collar bone about an inch down, are 2 accupressure points called

Kidney 27's also Brain Buttons in Brain Gym (in case you want to look

them up). Massage of these as many times a day as possible will help the

kidneys. They usually will be sore. Another way to tell if you have found

the right point is that when holding K 27's you can move your neck from

side or side & feel the connected muscle moving under your fingers.

Interestingly enough this is also a brain energy point :o) So there is a

clue to your brain energy.

You can use magnets on those spots. I use acc-magnets (gold plated found

at http://www.powersleeper.com) Dot side (N pole) on L & Smooth side (S

Pole) on R. Where till the skin itches & then leave off for a day or so &

re-apply.

Another kidney thing is to soak you feet in 1 bottle of peroxide w/ an

equal amount of pure water added for 40 minutes. This oxidates the

kidneys. You could feel nauseated but keep it up the whole 40 minutes.

You can grip the underside of your wrist for nausea. Repeat as needed

daily.

Hope this helps. I use Touch For Health by Dr. Thie

· ´¨)) -:¦:-

. .·´¨¨)) -:- ~Jolene~

((¸¸.· ..·´-:¦:- Heal me, O Lord, & I shall be healed~Jer 17:14

-:¦:- ((¸¸.´*

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Hi Gail,

It may be the lobelia that's giving you the benefits. Dr. Shulze's favorite

herbs are cayenne and lobelia. He says in his tapes, " when you don't know

what to do, when nothing else works, try lobelia.

Dotsie

LOBELIA - NATIVE AMERICAN WONDER HERB

Lobelia (also known as Indian Tobacco) grows wild in many parts of the

country. Dairy and cattle ranchers have known about it for the last 200 +

years and have made it available to their livestock so that their animals

could self medicate themselves with it! Native American Indians knew of it's

useful properties long before the white man came to the North American

continent. Often it was featured in their " smoke " mixtures.

Lobelia is best known as an antispasmodic. Taken in massive doses, it will

act as a very effective purgative for every eliminative channel in the body.

It is used as a safe herb to control seizures, fits, convulsions, asthma and

bronchial conditions. Lobelia is so free from any destructive side effect

that it can also be used successfully on newborn children. Lobelia will also

benefit someone with cramps, nervousness, sleeplessness and general

restlessness.

Southern Botanicals prepares this herb in two forms; tincture/concentrate and

tea form. The tincture is made from the seeds and seed pods of the plant in a

base of distilled water, apple cider vinegar and a small amount of pure grain

alcohol. This preparation is far stronger than any you will find in a health

food store, or elsewhere, for that matter.

Asthma - Folks suffering from this ailment can take 2 - 5 droppersfull, four

times daily and see definite results in a matter of weeks.

Lobelia contains over a dozen alkaloids, one of the strongest bio-chemicals

found in plants.

When in doubt as to what to do, you will see improvement with lobelia even if

it doesn't seem to fit the case. One natural healer used it to save folks

from heart attacks even when no cayenne was available. An infant was saved

when the mothers cervix would not dilate properly and the child was about to

suffocate. After 38 hours in labor, she delivered within 20 minutes of

receiving lobelia. It has been used to save a girl from kidney failure who

was too weak to undergo transplant surgery. When you don't know what to do,

when nothing else works, try lobelia.

A famous herbalist of the 19th century named , primarily used

two herbs. These herbs were cayenne and lobelia and he used them to help an

estimated 3 million people recover from all manner of illnesses. Cayenne, he

explained, stimulated the circulation and lobelia mildly sedated and relaxed

the body.

He used them back and forth; purge them with Lobelia, and then give them

Cayenne to bring them full flush with the world. Combined, these two herbs

can pull of natural healing miracles in short order. Consider the mainstream

medical option of cutting and drilling a four-inch hole through your rib cage

and inserting a probe to tap your lungs to drain the fluid out. My preference

is for lobelia and cayenne.

Dr. reintroduced lobelia for asthma and other terminal

conditions, in modern times . He used large doses to cure really sick people.

Lung problems can usually be traced to the use of dairy in the diet. Milk,

cheese, etc., constrict the broncials. Many people on dairy regularly, notice

their nose and sinuses are congested, or they have a wheeze or can't breath

as easily. Every asthmatic has to first get off dairy to help their

condition.To prove the effectiveness of this wisdom regarding dairy and lung

deterioration, try keeping away from all dairy products for seven straight

days. Note the improvement in ones condition from such a change alone.

Substitutes can be used such as almond milk or rice milk. Next, in order to

fully effect a recovery, to get one breathing normally and keep one

breathing, is the use of lobelia and cayenne. Two and three year olds come

off all dairy, use lobelia, and see their lives restored to normal.

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Hi Rose,

They come together in a bulk mixture. Directions are take two 00 size

capsules three times daily for six weeks. I simply take 1/2 tsp. mixed in

water and drink it three times a day. Donna Crow is going to be caring it

and offering it at a discount. It is GREAT!

Gail

> > Would you please let me know the portions, or is this already in a

bottle?

> This sounds great! Rose. (61)

>

>

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Hi Rose,

They come together in a bulk mixture. Directions are take two 00 size

capsules three times daily for six weeks. I simply take 1/2 tsp. mixed in

water and drink it three times a day. Donna Crow is going to be caring it

and offering it at a discount. It is GREAT!

Gail

> > Would you please let me know the portions, or is this already in a

bottle?

> This sounds great! Rose. (61)

>

>

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Re: Kidney Cleanse

Hi Rose,

They come together in a bulk mixture. Directions are take two 00 size

capsules three times daily for six weeks. I simply take 1/2 tsp. mixed in

water and drink it three times a day. Donna Crow is going to be caring it

and offering it at a discount. It is GREAT!

Gail

> > Would you please let me know the portions, or is this already in a

bottle?

> This sounds great! Rose. (61)

>

>

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Hi Jolene,

What a great post. This makes so much more sense to me now. I'd also like

to mention I have been addicted to caffeine since I was 9. At first it was

coke, then around the age of 17 it was coffee. And although I don't have a

problem with kidney infection, perse, there is just no way my kidneys can be

funtioning the way God created them to with all the caffeine I was on. I

didn't want just a cup of coffee. I wanted the whole pot! I'm mentioning

this in the hope that anybody reading will consider the effects of caffeine

and be motivated to come off it. I just didn't realize the kidneys played a

part in hormonal balancing and brain fog! What a revelation!

Another thing that might play into place is I am constantly having trouble

with my hip popping out of place and rotating. I'm wondering if the out of

place hip would contribute to the kidneys shiftling around. Just wondering.

This is very exciting to me.

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> ((¸¸.· ..·´-:¦:- Heal me, O Lord, & I shall be healed~Jer 17:14

> -:¦:- ((¸¸.´*

>

AND EVERYBODY SAID AMEN! Thank you, Jolene.

~Gail~

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Hi Jolene,

What a great post. This makes so much more sense to me now. I'd also like

to mention I have been addicted to caffeine since I was 9. At first it was

coke, then around the age of 17 it was coffee. And although I don't have a

problem with kidney infection, perse, there is just no way my kidneys can be

funtioning the way God created them to with all the caffeine I was on. I

didn't want just a cup of coffee. I wanted the whole pot! I'm mentioning

this in the hope that anybody reading will consider the effects of caffeine

and be motivated to come off it. I just didn't realize the kidneys played a

part in hormonal balancing and brain fog! What a revelation!

Another thing that might play into place is I am constantly having trouble

with my hip popping out of place and rotating. I'm wondering if the out of

place hip would contribute to the kidneys shiftling around. Just wondering.

This is very exciting to me.

Re: Kidney Cleanse

>

> · ´¨)) -:¦:-

> . .·´¨¨)) -:- ~Jolene~

> ((¸¸.· ..·´-:¦:- Heal me, O Lord, & I shall be healed~Jer 17:14

> -:¦:- ((¸¸.´*

>

AND EVERYBODY SAID AMEN! Thank you, Jolene.

~Gail~

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Hi Jolene,

What a great post. This makes so much more sense to me now. I'd also like

to mention I have been addicted to caffeine since I was 9. At first it was

coke, then around the age of 17 it was coffee. And although I don't have a

problem with kidney infection, perse, there is just no way my kidneys can be

funtioning the way God created them to with all the caffeine I was on. I

didn't want just a cup of coffee. I wanted the whole pot! I'm mentioning

this in the hope that anybody reading will consider the effects of caffeine

and be motivated to come off it. I just didn't realize the kidneys played a

part in hormonal balancing and brain fog! What a revelation!

Another thing that might play into place is I am constantly having trouble

with my hip popping out of place and rotating. I'm wondering if the out of

place hip would contribute to the kidneys shiftling around. Just wondering.

This is very exciting to me.

Re: Kidney Cleanse

>

> · ´¨)) -:¦:-

> . .·´¨¨)) -:- ~Jolene~

> ((¸¸.· ..·´-:¦:- Heal me, O Lord, & I shall be healed~Jer 17:14

> -:¦:- ((¸¸.´*

>

AND EVERYBODY SAID AMEN! Thank you, Jolene.

~Gail~

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Very interesting.

Thanks, Dotsie.

Dave

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> Hi Gail,

> It may be the lobelia that's giving you the benefits. Dr. Shulze's

favorite

> herbs are cayenne and lobelia. He says in his tapes, " when you don't know

> what to do, when nothing else works, try lobelia.

> Dotsie

>

> LOBELIA - NATIVE AMERICAN WONDER HERB

>

> Lobelia (also known as Indian Tobacco) grows wild in many parts of the

> country. Dairy and cattle ranchers have known about it for the last 200 +

> years and have made it available to their livestock so that their animals

> could self medicate themselves with it! Native American Indians knew of

it's

> useful properties long before the white man came to the North American

> continent. Often it was featured in their " smoke " mixtures.

>

> Lobelia is best known as an antispasmodic. Taken in massive doses, it will

> act as a very effective purgative for every eliminative channel in the

body.

> It is used as a safe herb to control seizures, fits, convulsions, asthma

and

> bronchial conditions. Lobelia is so free from any destructive side effect

> that it can also be used successfully on newborn children. Lobelia will

also

> benefit someone with cramps, nervousness, sleeplessness and general

> restlessness.

>

> Southern Botanicals prepares this herb in two forms; tincture/concentrate

and

> tea form. The tincture is made from the seeds and seed pods of the plant

in a

> base of distilled water, apple cider vinegar and a small amount of pure

grain

> alcohol. This preparation is far stronger than any you will find in a

health

> food store, or elsewhere, for that matter.

>

> Asthma - Folks suffering from this ailment can take 2 - 5 droppersfull,

four

> times daily and see definite results in a matter of weeks.

>

> Lobelia contains over a dozen alkaloids, one of the strongest

bio-chemicals

> found in plants.

>

> When in doubt as to what to do, you will see improvement with lobelia even

if

> it doesn't seem to fit the case. One natural healer used it to save folks

> from heart attacks even when no cayenne was available. An infant was saved

> when the mothers cervix would not dilate properly and the child was about

to

> suffocate. After 38 hours in labor, she delivered within 20 minutes of

> receiving lobelia. It has been used to save a girl from kidney failure who

> was too weak to undergo transplant surgery. When you don't know what to

do,

> when nothing else works, try lobelia.

>

> A famous herbalist of the 19th century named , primarily

used

> two herbs. These herbs were cayenne and lobelia and he used them to help

an

> estimated 3 million people recover from all manner of illnesses. Cayenne,

he

> explained, stimulated the circulation and lobelia mildly sedated and

relaxed

> the body.

>

> He used them back and forth; purge them with Lobelia, and then give them

> Cayenne to bring them full flush with the world. Combined, these two herbs

> can pull of natural healing miracles in short order. Consider the

mainstream

> medical option of cutting and drilling a four-inch hole through your rib

cage

> and inserting a probe to tap your lungs to drain the fluid out. My

preference

> is for lobelia and cayenne.

>

> Dr. reintroduced lobelia for asthma and other terminal

> conditions, in modern times . He used large doses to cure really sick

people.

>

> Lung problems can usually be traced to the use of dairy in the diet. Milk,

> cheese, etc., constrict the broncials. Many people on dairy regularly,

notice

> their nose and sinuses are congested, or they have a wheeze or can't

breath

> as easily. Every asthmatic has to first get off dairy to help their

> condition.To prove the effectiveness of this wisdom regarding dairy and

lung

> deterioration, try keeping away from all dairy products for seven straight

> days. Note the improvement in ones condition from such a change alone.

> Substitutes can be used such as almond milk or rice milk. Next, in order

to

> fully effect a recovery, to get one breathing normally and keep one

> breathing, is the use of lobelia and cayenne. Two and three year olds come

> off all dairy, use lobelia, and see their lives restored to normal.

>

> ********************************

>

>

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Thank you, Dotsie! You are just one walking little encyclopedia at the

touch of your fingertips! You never cease to amaze me how you come up with

so much information and so many different links! Ofcourse, if I'd do the

research I could too. But this way is so nice and your helpfulness so

appreciated. Gail

Re: Kidney Cleanse

> Hi Gail,

> It may be the lobelia that's giving you the benefits. Dr. Shulze's

favorite

> herbs are cayenne and lobelia. He says in his tapes, " when you don't know

> what to do, when nothing else works, try lobelia.

> Dotsie

>

> LOBELIA - NATIVE AMERICAN WONDER HERB

>

> Lobelia (also known as Indian Tobacco) grows wild in many parts of the

> country. Dairy and cattle ranchers have known about it for the last 200 +

> years and have made it available to their livestock so that their animals

> could self medicate themselves with it! Native American Indians knew of

it's

> useful properties long before the white man came to the North American

> continent. Often it was featured in their " smoke " mixtures.

>

> Lobelia is best known as an antispasmodic. Taken in massive doses, it will

> act as a very effective purgative for every eliminative channel in the

body.

> It is used as a safe herb to control seizures, fits, convulsions, asthma

and

> bronchial conditions. Lobelia is so free from any destructive side effect

> that it can also be used successfully on newborn children. Lobelia will

also

> benefit someone with cramps, nervousness, sleeplessness and general

> restlessness.

>

> Southern Botanicals prepares this herb in two forms; tincture/concentrate

and

> tea form. The tincture is made from the seeds and seed pods of the plant

in a

> base of distilled water, apple cider vinegar and a small amount of pure

grain

> alcohol. This preparation is far stronger than any you will find in a

health

> food store, or elsewhere, for that matter.

>

> Asthma - Folks suffering from this ailment can take 2 - 5 droppersfull,

four

> times daily and see definite results in a matter of weeks.

>

> Lobelia contains over a dozen alkaloids, one of the strongest

bio-chemicals

> found in plants.

>

> When in doubt as to what to do, you will see improvement with lobelia even

if

> it doesn't seem to fit the case. One natural healer used it to save folks

> from heart attacks even when no cayenne was available. An infant was saved

> when the mothers cervix would not dilate properly and the child was about

to

> suffocate. After 38 hours in labor, she delivered within 20 minutes of

> receiving lobelia. It has been used to save a girl from kidney failure who

> was too weak to undergo transplant surgery. When you don't know what to

do,

> when nothing else works, try lobelia.

>

> A famous herbalist of the 19th century named , primarily

used

> two herbs. These herbs were cayenne and lobelia and he used them to help

an

> estimated 3 million people recover from all manner of illnesses. Cayenne,

he

> explained, stimulated the circulation and lobelia mildly sedated and

relaxed

> the body.

>

> He used them back and forth; purge them with Lobelia, and then give them

> Cayenne to bring them full flush with the world. Combined, these two herbs

> can pull of natural healing miracles in short order. Consider the

mainstream

> medical option of cutting and drilling a four-inch hole through your rib

cage

> and inserting a probe to tap your lungs to drain the fluid out. My

preference

> is for lobelia and cayenne.

>

> Dr. reintroduced lobelia for asthma and other terminal

> conditions, in modern times . He used large doses to cure really sick

people.

>

> Lung problems can usually be traced to the use of dairy in the diet. Milk,

> cheese, etc., constrict the broncials. Many people on dairy regularly,

notice

> their nose and sinuses are congested, or they have a wheeze or can't

breath

> as easily. Every asthmatic has to first get off dairy to help their

> condition.To prove the effectiveness of this wisdom regarding dairy and

lung

> deterioration, try keeping away from all dairy products for seven straight

> days. Note the improvement in ones condition from such a change alone.

> Substitutes can be used such as almond milk or rice milk. Next, in order

to

> fully effect a recovery, to get one breathing normally and keep one

> breathing, is the use of lobelia and cayenne. Two and three year olds come

> off all dairy, use lobelia, and see their lives restored to normal.

>

> ********************************

>

>

>

>

>

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>>>

Another thing that might play into place is I am constantly having

trouble

with my hip popping out of place and rotating. I'm wondering if the out

of

place hip would contribute to the kidneys shiftling around. Just

wondering.

<<<

Gail,

Now that you mention it....I'll share some more :o)

The meridian for the kidneys runs thru the hips like a harness.

This was explained to me by a Chinese Herbalist & Accupuncturist.

I will tell you why we discussed this: my youngest daughter, Kaiyah~age

5, is special needs. I had a home birth (all our births were-even our

twins) & took her in for chiro care at 3 days b/c her neck was out from

birthing. It turns out she has a brain stem truama in utero & a rotation

of 7 1/2 on her brain stem. We are looking into specific treamtment for

this. It has been a long process. She has Dandy Syndrome but no

medical problems. Only physcial & neurological delays: gross motor skill

(not walking-extreme hip imbalance), speech & coordination. Her

cerebellum is undeveloped due to the cyst of CSF on the midline of the

brain. We did not have a DX till this March b/c we just kept her in

natural healing. I think this took care of all the " normal symtoms " of

the syndrome so it was difficult w/out the expensive tests to DX her. I'm

so glad we did what we did: nutritional counceling/monitoring, Bernanrd

Jensen food/system analysis, chromotherapy, Bach flower remedies, gems,

magnet therapy, acupuncture, chiro, Brain Gym, Reiki...ect.

People are constantly amazed at her good health, great attitude,

adaptablity & progress. I owe it all to natural health. So we continue

the search. I found this list b/c of it's relationship w/ HBOT. But she

has not has any treatments as of yet.

So back to the kidneys: in her health care, kidneys have been stressed

often. The Chinese Dr told me her diaper rashes ect are probably due to

the gall bladder & kidneys nerve connections being stressed continuously

from her imbalance. It makes sense. Food allergies are not the cause. If

I take her in to get her legs adjusted (for use of a better word) then

the diaper rash goes away. Dr. Thei has great info on this. I use

his book for a baseline for our magnet therapy. Her previous chiro taught

me for 3 1/2 yrs. She now goes to Http://www.kentuckiana.org. Only 1 of 2

natual health care/chiro clinics in the US.

So we are still searching.....Any comments, suggestions & info would be

appreciated.

About your kidney stress, you need to find out if the initial problem is

structural or metabolic . That would provide the best treatment for you

kidneys to treat the cause. It could be another organ stress that pulled

the kidneys down too. Chinese medicien makes these things so clear to me.

I recommend a good naturopahic physician.

Anyway, sorry the mixed post~ I just haven't ahd time to do anything but

read posts (lots-but so good). I'm so thankful to find this list~So much

great info here. Still trying to see how I can incorperate this into

Kaiyah's treament protocol.

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