Re: Help with Downspouts...

[Guest guest]

>

> I have my downspout mold cut and I'm ready to attempt another pour.

> My questions is, how in the heck do I get the soap to stay in the

> mold when I pour it?

hey pam:

i hope you've received an answer already, but here's a little information.

i think it's penny that swears by slapping bags and rubberbands on the end.

some

use the paraffin as you've suggested. i duct tape the h*ll out the ends, around

the outside and then crisscross on the end. you could try pouring at a heavier

trace. or put sand in a bucket and after you've taped the ends, wedge the pipe

down in the sand at the bottom of the bucket, toss a towel over it (don't over

insulate pvc) and check it in a day or two.

don't feel bad ~ the first time i did it, i had raw soap EVERY where. i was so

frustrated that i didn't attempt it again 'till i remember sunshine penny saying

how easy it was!

i have another friend who uses end caps and another who sliced her pvc down the

sides, top to bottom and tapes it together to pour. then the soap pops right

out

when she's ready to unmold.

my problem is getting the soap out to cut. i have one that's been in the pipe

for

2 months. (i got mad at it and told it to STAY there-bad dog, no cookie.) some

say to grease the inside with spray, others say no because that oil will join in

the sap dance. others use freezer paper, glossy side in, but i had that stick

to

the soap and i got mad at that batch too! others freeze the pipe after the

initial 24 hours and then the soap is suppose to slide right out. there's the

debate of whether this interferes with saponification as the chemical reaction

can

take up to 30 days (longer for oils such as olive).

soRRY, didn't mean to get so long winded there. =) remember to let us know

what

works so we can pass it on!

good luck. after you master it, it usually ceases to be a problem (duh!)

hth,

larrae

[Guest guest]

>

> I have my downspout mold cut and I'm ready to attempt another pour.

> My questions is, how in the heck do I get the soap to stay in the

> mold when I pour it?

hey pam:

i hope you've received an answer already, but here's a little information.

i think it's penny that swears by slapping bags and rubberbands on the end.

some

use the paraffin as you've suggested. i duct tape the h*ll out the ends, around

the outside and then crisscross on the end. you could try pouring at a heavier

trace. or put sand in a bucket and after you've taped the ends, wedge the pipe

down in the sand at the bottom of the bucket, toss a towel over it (don't over

insulate pvc) and check it in a day or two.

don't feel bad ~ the first time i did it, i had raw soap EVERY where. i was so

frustrated that i didn't attempt it again 'till i remember sunshine penny saying

how easy it was!

i have another friend who uses end caps and another who sliced her pvc down the

sides, top to bottom and tapes it together to pour. then the soap pops right

out

when she's ready to unmold.

my problem is getting the soap out to cut. i have one that's been in the pipe

for

2 months. (i got mad at it and told it to STAY there-bad dog, no cookie.) some

say to grease the inside with spray, others say no because that oil will join in

the sap dance. others use freezer paper, glossy side in, but i had that stick

to

the soap and i got mad at that batch too! others freeze the pipe after the

initial 24 hours and then the soap is suppose to slide right out. there's the

debate of whether this interferes with saponification as the chemical reaction

can

take up to 30 days (longer for oils such as olive).

soRRY, didn't mean to get so long winded there. =) remember to let us know

what

works so we can pass it on!

good luck. after you master it, it usually ceases to be a problem (duh!)

hth,

larrae

[Guest guest]

>

> I have my downspout mold cut and I'm ready to attempt another pour.

> My questions is, how in the heck do I get the soap to stay in the

> mold when I pour it?

hey pam:

i hope you've received an answer already, but here's a little information.

i think it's penny that swears by slapping bags and rubberbands on the end.

some

use the paraffin as you've suggested. i duct tape the h*ll out the ends, around

the outside and then crisscross on the end. you could try pouring at a heavier

trace. or put sand in a bucket and after you've taped the ends, wedge the pipe

down in the sand at the bottom of the bucket, toss a towel over it (don't over

insulate pvc) and check it in a day or two.

don't feel bad ~ the first time i did it, i had raw soap EVERY where. i was so

frustrated that i didn't attempt it again 'till i remember sunshine penny saying

how easy it was!

i have another friend who uses end caps and another who sliced her pvc down the

sides, top to bottom and tapes it together to pour. then the soap pops right

out

when she's ready to unmold.

my problem is getting the soap out to cut. i have one that's been in the pipe

for

2 months. (i got mad at it and told it to STAY there-bad dog, no cookie.) some

say to grease the inside with spray, others say no because that oil will join in

the sap dance. others use freezer paper, glossy side in, but i had that stick

to

the soap and i got mad at that batch too! others freeze the pipe after the

initial 24 hours and then the soap is suppose to slide right out. there's the

debate of whether this interferes with saponification as the chemical reaction

can

take up to 30 days (longer for oils such as olive).

soRRY, didn't mean to get so long winded there. =) remember to let us know

what

works so we can pass it on!

good luck. after you master it, it usually ceases to be a problem (duh!)

hth,

larrae

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On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:06:09 -0700, soapmaking101egroups wrote:

> > I have my downspout mold cut and I'm ready to attempt another pour.

> > My questions is, how in the heck do I get the soap to stay in the

> > mold when I pour it?

>

> i think it's penny that swears by slapping bags and rubberbands on the

end. some use the paraffin as you've suggested. i duct tape the h*ll out

the ends, around the outside and then crisscross on the end. you could try

pouring at a heavier trace.

Larrae,

I took everyone's advice... I plugged the end w/paraffin wax, put plastic

over the end and taped it on, put it all in a freezer bag (2 gallon bag just

in case it all poured out again) and then taped the bag real good. I also

poured at a thicker trace and a lower temp.

So far so good. A little did seep out of the bottom, but no big deal. Thanks

to all who answered my plea for help. I never ceased to be amazed at the

generousity of all the soapers on these lists. It's nice to know I'm not the

only one that has soaping misadventures. I'm just glad we have not gotten

our kichen floor laid yet (can't decide/agree). I could have really messed

it up.

Larrae, you are so funny. I hope your 'still in the pvc' soap lets go soon

and without any additional fight. I'm sure you won't find it hard to

believe, but I too, have actually had unmolding problems on occasion.

Imagine that! Me, Ms. Kluttzy.

Thanks again to all who answered,

Pam S

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On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:06:09 -0700, soapmaking101egroups wrote:

> > I have my downspout mold cut and I'm ready to attempt another pour.

> > My questions is, how in the heck do I get the soap to stay in the

> > mold when I pour it?

>

> i think it's penny that swears by slapping bags and rubberbands on the

end. some use the paraffin as you've suggested. i duct tape the h*ll out

the ends, around the outside and then crisscross on the end. you could try

pouring at a heavier trace.

Larrae,

I took everyone's advice... I plugged the end w/paraffin wax, put plastic

over the end and taped it on, put it all in a freezer bag (2 gallon bag just

in case it all poured out again) and then taped the bag real good. I also

poured at a thicker trace and a lower temp.

So far so good. A little did seep out of the bottom, but no big deal. Thanks

to all who answered my plea for help. I never ceased to be amazed at the

generousity of all the soapers on these lists. It's nice to know I'm not the

only one that has soaping misadventures. I'm just glad we have not gotten

our kichen floor laid yet (can't decide/agree). I could have really messed

it up.

Larrae, you are so funny. I hope your 'still in the pvc' soap lets go soon

and without any additional fight. I'm sure you won't find it hard to

believe, but I too, have actually had unmolding problems on occasion.

Imagine that! Me, Ms. Kluttzy.

Thanks again to all who answered,

Pam S

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On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:06:09 -0700, soapmaking101egroups wrote:

> > I have my downspout mold cut and I'm ready to attempt another pour.

> > My questions is, how in the heck do I get the soap to stay in the

> > mold when I pour it?

>

> i think it's penny that swears by slapping bags and rubberbands on the

end. some use the paraffin as you've suggested. i duct tape the h*ll out

the ends, around the outside and then crisscross on the end. you could try

pouring at a heavier trace.

Larrae,

I took everyone's advice... I plugged the end w/paraffin wax, put plastic

over the end and taped it on, put it all in a freezer bag (2 gallon bag just

in case it all poured out again) and then taped the bag real good. I also

poured at a thicker trace and a lower temp.

So far so good. A little did seep out of the bottom, but no big deal. Thanks

to all who answered my plea for help. I never ceased to be amazed at the

generousity of all the soapers on these lists. It's nice to know I'm not the

only one that has soaping misadventures. I'm just glad we have not gotten

our kichen floor laid yet (can't decide/agree). I could have really messed

it up.

Larrae, you are so funny. I hope your 'still in the pvc' soap lets go soon

and without any additional fight. I'm sure you won't find it hard to

believe, but I too, have actually had unmolding problems on occasion.

Imagine that! Me, Ms. Kluttzy.

Thanks again to all who answered,

Pam S

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others freeze the pipe after the

initial 24 hours and then the soap is suppose to slide right out. there's

the

debate of whether this interferes with saponification as the chemical

reaction can

take up to 30 days (longer for oils such as olive).

>>>>>>>>>>

try sticking it in the freezer now.. I do it the day after the 24 hours or

so is up.. then heat it when you take it out with a blow dryer.. to make

the sides get condensation.. just for a few minutes.. shake it open ends

down and push slightly.. once it starts itll keep coming out..

I pour melted old candles into a rubber made flat container big enough to

hold 3 downspouts then stand my drainspouts in the hot wax.. wait a day

then do my soap./. works well you need about 2 inches of wax in there..

wax comes off the soap and can be remelted to use again..

Goatie Hugs and Doney Nuzzies

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others freeze the pipe after the

initial 24 hours and then the soap is suppose to slide right out. there's

the

debate of whether this interferes with saponification as the chemical

reaction can

take up to 30 days (longer for oils such as olive).

>>>>>>>>>>

try sticking it in the freezer now.. I do it the day after the 24 hours or

so is up.. then heat it when you take it out with a blow dryer.. to make

the sides get condensation.. just for a few minutes.. shake it open ends

down and push slightly.. once it starts itll keep coming out..

I pour melted old candles into a rubber made flat container big enough to

hold 3 downspouts then stand my drainspouts in the hot wax.. wait a day

then do my soap./. works well you need about 2 inches of wax in there..

wax comes off the soap and can be remelted to use again..

Goatie Hugs and Doney Nuzzies

goatlady

Essence of Eden Goatsmilk Soaps and Body Care

http://goatsmilksoaps.safeshopper.com./

Graphics and Website development Goat Graphiks

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others freeze the pipe after the

initial 24 hours and then the soap is suppose to slide right out. there's

the

debate of whether this interferes with saponification as the chemical

reaction can

take up to 30 days (longer for oils such as olive).

>>>>>>>>>>

try sticking it in the freezer now.. I do it the day after the 24 hours or

so is up.. then heat it when you take it out with a blow dryer.. to make

the sides get condensation.. just for a few minutes.. shake it open ends

down and push slightly.. once it starts itll keep coming out..

I pour melted old candles into a rubber made flat container big enough to

hold 3 downspouts then stand my drainspouts in the hot wax.. wait a day

then do my soap./. works well you need about 2 inches of wax in there..

wax comes off the soap and can be remelted to use again..

Goatie Hugs and Doney Nuzzies

goatlady

Essence of Eden Goatsmilk Soaps and Body Care

http://goatsmilksoaps.safeshopper.com./

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How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

Thanks,

H.

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How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

Thanks,

H.

[Guest guest]

How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

Thanks,

H.

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How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

>>>>>>>>>>>

mine are 10 inches long and they hold a pound a some room to spare but not

2 pounds.. or even another half pound.., and unless someone knows

something I dont.. they do volcano up at the top some.. so your top bar may

need trimmed (great for your own shower tho) I dont know if this is because

I make gms or not..

remember to let them thaw after getting them out of the spouts.. or they

have a tendancy to break as you cut them..

Goatie Hugs and Doney Nuzzies

goatlady

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How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

>>>>>>>>>>>

mine are 10 inches long and they hold a pound a some room to spare but not

2 pounds.. or even another half pound.., and unless someone knows

something I dont.. they do volcano up at the top some.. so your top bar may

need trimmed (great for your own shower tho) I dont know if this is because

I make gms or not..

remember to let them thaw after getting them out of the spouts.. or they

have a tendancy to break as you cut them..

Goatie Hugs and Doney Nuzzies

goatlady

Essence of Eden Goatsmilk Soaps and Body Care

http://goatsmilksoaps.safeshopper.com./

Graphics and Website development Goat Graphiks

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[Guest guest]

How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

>>>>>>>>>>>

mine are 10 inches long and they hold a pound a some room to spare but not

2 pounds.. or even another half pound.., and unless someone knows

something I dont.. they do volcano up at the top some.. so your top bar may

need trimmed (great for your own shower tho) I dont know if this is because

I make gms or not..

remember to let them thaw after getting them out of the spouts.. or they

have a tendancy to break as you cut them..

Goatie Hugs and Doney Nuzzies

goatlady

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http://goatsmilksoaps.safeshopper.com./

Graphics and Website development Goat Graphiks

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Mine is about 24 inches and holds 4#'s. I seal the end with a piece of

plastic wrap that I've folded over at least 4 times, then duck taped the

heck out of it and set it in a bucket. After 24 hrs. I stick it in the

freezer for about 1 hr (?) & then use the blow dryer on it...it slides

right out. I do spray the inside before pouring my soap but heard

success stories from people who say they never grease theirs...I've had

" stuck soap " before so I haven't had the nerve to try not greasing my

mold.

Howie

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hherbalone@... wrote:

>

> How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

>

> Thanks,

> H.

[Guest guest]

Mine is about 24 inches and holds 4#'s. I seal the end with a piece of

plastic wrap that I've folded over at least 4 times, then duck taped the

heck out of it and set it in a bucket. After 24 hrs. I stick it in the

freezer for about 1 hr (?) & then use the blow dryer on it...it slides

right out. I do spray the inside before pouring my soap but heard

success stories from people who say they never grease theirs...I've had

" stuck soap " before so I haven't had the nerve to try not greasing my

mold.

Howie

visit my website:

LYE'N AROUND SOAP'N

http://www.geocities.com/heyhowiejo/

hherbalone@... wrote:

>

> How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

>

> Thanks,

> H.

[Guest guest]

Mine is about 24 inches and holds 4#'s. I seal the end with a piece of

plastic wrap that I've folded over at least 4 times, then duck taped the

heck out of it and set it in a bucket. After 24 hrs. I stick it in the

freezer for about 1 hr (?) & then use the blow dryer on it...it slides

right out. I do spray the inside before pouring my soap but heard

success stories from people who say they never grease theirs...I've had

" stuck soap " before so I haven't had the nerve to try not greasing my

mold.

Howie

visit my website:

LYE'N AROUND SOAP'N

http://www.geocities.com/heyhowiejo/

hherbalone@... wrote:

>

> How many inches of downspout do you need per pound of soap?

>

> Thanks,

> H.

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

This is what works best for me -- melt down some M & P (preferably some

that didn't turn out quite the way you thought it would!) pour it into a

shallow tray of some sort (Tupperware or something similar ), stand your

downspouts in it and allow it to cool and solidify ( be sure it's at

least 1/2 inch deep). This is working great for me, the wax method just

didn't to it and my tape alway stick to itself! The best part is that

you just reuse the m & p over and over!

HTH,

Body & Soap

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

This is what works best for me -- melt down some M & P (preferably some

that didn't turn out quite the way you thought it would!) pour it into a

shallow tray of some sort (Tupperware or something similar ), stand your

downspouts in it and allow it to cool and solidify ( be sure it's at

least 1/2 inch deep). This is working great for me, the wax method just

didn't to it and my tape alway stick to itself! The best part is that

you just reuse the m & p over and over!

HTH,

Body & Soap

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

This is what works best for me -- melt down some M & P (preferably some

that didn't turn out quite the way you thought it would!) pour it into a

shallow tray of some sort (Tupperware or something similar ), stand your

downspouts in it and allow it to cool and solidify ( be sure it's at

least 1/2 inch deep). This is working great for me, the wax method just

didn't to it and my tape alway stick to itself! The best part is that

you just reuse the m & p over and over!

HTH,

Body & Soap

[Guest guest]

OMG! ! What a clever idea! I had tried the wax method before,

too, & didn't like it one bit (even though it did work good). I think

I'm gonna go make soap now & try your method <vbg> Thanks....(some

people are so ingenius!)

Howie

visit my website:

LYE'N AROUND SOAP'N

http://www.geocities.com/heyhowiejo/

wrote:

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> This is what works best for me -- melt down some M & P (preferably some

> that didn't turn out quite the way you thought it would!) pour it into a

> shallow tray of some sort (Tupperware or something similar ), stand your

> downspouts in it and allow it to cool and solidify ( be sure it's at

> least 1/2 inch deep). This is working great for me, the wax method just

> didn't to it and my tape alway stick to itself! The best part is that

> you just reuse the m & p over and over!

>

> HTH,

>

> Body & Soap

>

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