Hydergine

[Guest guest]

moores@... writes:

> hyderigine a drug that an average MD would have experience with?

I can't find anything negative about this drug, maybe a stomach ache or

allergic to it?

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Hydergine increases stores of the universal energy molecule, adenosine

triphosphate (ATP), stabilises the intracellular messenger molecule cyclic

adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) content of nerve cells, improves utilization

of glucose in the brain, and enhances cerebral microcirculation.

The FDA approves Hydergine for persons " over sixty who manifest signs and

symptoms of an idiopathic decline in mental capacity " (i.e. cognitive and

interpersonal skills, mood, self-care, apparent motivation-Physician's Desk

Reference 1995).

>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

[Guest guest]

This great information but would an average family doctor know about it or would

one need to go to a neurologist or other specialist.

thanks

Steve

SUSYDOG@... wrote:

> From: SUSYDOG@...

>

> moores@... writes:

> > hyderigine a drug that an average MD would have experience with?

> I can't find anything negative about this drug, maybe a stomach ache or

> allergic to it?

> <A

> HREF= " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?form=4 & db=m & term=hyd

> ergine & dispmax=20 & relentrezdate=No+Limit " >PubMed medline query</A>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?form=4 & db=m & term=hydergine

> & dispmax=20 & relentrezdate=No+Limit

> <A HREF= " http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-Info/ias-hydergine.htm " >ias-hydergine.

> htm-IAS,Smart Drugs, AntiAging Medici</A>

> http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-Info/ias-hydergine.htm

> >>>>>>Snip<<<<<<<<

> Hydergine increases stores of the universal energy molecule, adenosine

> triphosphate (ATP), stabilises the intracellular messenger molecule cyclic

> adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) content of nerve cells, improves utilization

> of glucose in the brain, and enhances cerebral microcirculation.

> The FDA approves Hydergine for persons " over sixty who manifest signs and

> symptoms of an idiopathic decline in mental capacity " (i.e. cognitive and

> interpersonal skills, mood, self-care, apparent motivation-Physician's Desk

> Reference 1995).

> >>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

SUSYDOG@... wrote:

>

> From: SUSYDOG@...

>

> moores@... writes:

> > hyderigine a drug that an average MD would have experience with?

> I can't find anything negative about this drug, maybe a stomach ache or

> allergic to it?

>

Hi Susy and Steve,

My general doc prescribed hydergine for me in 1992. Read Dirk Pearson

and Sandy Shaw from their Life Extension book. Durk has really

researched and tested the usage and dose of this drug. It sounds like

side-effects are nil and benefits are multiple. Very helpful for the

brain metabolism, for oxygen and cell regeneration plus energy.

Don't remember why I stopped taking it. I was taking so many things and

so sick. Think I will give it another round. Dirk writes:

In France, an indication for the use of Hydergine is 'reanimation'

meaning that it can be used to bring very recently dead persons back to

life in conjujction with other methods. The basis for this is that in

conditions where oxygen is not adequately supplied to the brain,

normally irreversible free radical brain damage begins to occur after

about five minutes. However, if Hydergine can be injected into the

carotid artery within a few minutes after death, the brain will not

begin to suffer irreversible damage for about 30 minutes. "

Pearson recommends buying only Sandoz Hydergine and using the sublingual

form after a meal. The FDA approved dose in the U>S> is 3 milligrams a

day; in Europe the typical dose is 9 milligrams a day. Dramatic effects

can be found at the European dose.

He also says you can see immediate results but it takes 1 to 2 years to

reap fullest benefits.

Thanks, Sheri

[Guest guest]

thanks for all this information I called the neuro department at the university

med center. The nurse was not familiar with it but I went ahead and made an

appointment with a neurologist so I guess

I will get my answer so enough.

Sheri are you going to give it another try??

Steve

rms. general doc prescribed hydergine for me in 1992. Read Dirk Pearson

> and Sandy Shaw from their Life Extension book. Durk has really

> researched and tested the usage and dose of this drug. It sounds like

> side-effects are nil and benefits are multiple. Very helpful for the

> brain metabolism, for oxygen and cell regeneration plus energy.

>

> Don't remember why I stopped taking it. I was taking so many things and

> so sick. Think I will give it another round. Dirk writes:

>

> In France, an indication for the use of Hydergine is 'reanimation'

> meaning that it can be used to bring very recently dead persons back to

> life in conjujction with other methods. The basis for this is that in

> conditions where oxygen is not adequately supplied to the brain,

> normally irreversible free radical brain damage begins to occur after

> about five minutes. However, if Hydergine can be injected into the

> carotid artery within a few minutes after death, the brain will not

> begin to suffer irreversible damage for about 30 minutes. "

>

> Pearson recommends buying only Sandoz Hydergine and using the sublingual

> form after a meal. The FDA approved dose in the U>S> is 3 milligrams a

> day; in Europe the typical dose is 9 milligrams a day. Dramatic effects

> can be found at the European dose.

>

> He also says you can see immediate results but it takes 1 to 2 years to

> reap fullest benefits.

>

> Thanks, Sheri

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

hi all , hi steve,

dug thru my brief notes: apparently sometime in the fall 1994, i had

tried hydergine, my comment next to it was increased gi symtoms specially

increased gatroesophagel refluxing.

it was a pill to the best of my recollection...at that time cfids mds

trying it on many patients in their practice...

hope it works for you .

somish

[Guest guest]

thanks I talked to a neuro nurse & she said it was also used to treat migranes

-- I went ahead and made an appointment with a neuro -- needed to do that

anyway.

Steve

SOMISH@... wrote:

> From: SOMISH@...

>

> hi all , hi steve,

> dug thru my brief notes: apparently sometime in the fall 1994, i had

> tried hydergine, my comment next to it was increased gi symtoms specially

> increased gatroesophagel refluxing.

> it was a pill to the best of my recollection...at that time cfids mds

> trying it on many patients in their practice...

> hope it works for you .

> somish

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Oh Saul, you stinker!

Re: Re:Hydergine

>Dear Super and Jim,

>

>Since it seems to be time for 'fessing up,

>I will admit to several dozen LSD trips myself...

>... and pounds of pot...

>... and lots of hash (remember hot knives??)...

>... a bit of coke... a few MDMA...

>... but my favorite was mescaline... like being under water and connected

> to the pulse of the whole world...

>...best for concerts...some of the peak experiences of my life....

>

>

>Best of Health!

>Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

>

>URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

>email: saul@...

>

> " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that

created

>them " . - Einstein

>

>

> Re: Re:Hydergine

>

>

>> holy jumpin' crimminey, jim :-)

>> i only took it about 500-600 times and i've been told i'm beyond the

>> psychological pale for-

>> ever and ever because of it.

>> y'all must be a old hippie too.

>> 'Frisco hashberryian myself... '66-70-something.. at least as much of

>> '66-'70-something as i can remember. heh heh

>>

>> Dennis

>>

>> A. : . A. : .

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I like doing these much better

[Guest guest]

CAn you give me the www on hte place to get hydergine. Thanks, Ken

Patty wrote:

> Buying prescriptions over the border in Mexico is easy. They are so willing

> to sell you drugs over there that they will come up to you on the street and

> ask you if you are looking for pharmaceutical drugs. Then they will take

> you to their favorite pharmacy, (or the one that hired them to be a look

> out), and sell you just about anything. And these pharmacies aren't hard to

> find. They are on every street corner and everywhere in between.

>

> There are pharmacists on duty all the time, and you can get answers to your

> questions if they speak good enough English.

>

> On my last visit to Mexico (Nogales) I wanted to purchase some Armour

> thyroid. However, this is one prescription I could not get there. No one

> had it, with most of the pharmacies carrying Synthroid or Levoxin or

> whatever those other ones are. But the guy that was helping me was so

> determined to get me what I wanted, he finally told me where I could find a

> doctor who would write me the prescription for a fee, with my only hope

> being that an American pharmacy would fill it. I hit pay dirt, when I

> dikkered the price with the doc, and for $10 he wrote me a prescription for

> a year's supply of Armour, and the Wal-Mart on the American side of Nogales

> filled it.

>

> The only other problem I had was when I wanted to buy some hydergine. It

> was way overpriced in Mexico! I found a website that sold some to me out

> of Hong Kong for less than half the price. So do your shopping before you

> go to Mexico to make sure you are getting the best price.

> Patty

>

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[Guest guest]

Ken, You can get virtually all nootropics from www.qhi.co.uk or

www.nubrain.com

jim

Ken wrote:

>

> CAn you give me the www on hte place to get hydergine. Thanks, Ken

[Guest guest]

> CAn you give me the www on hte place to get hydergine. Thanks, Ken

http://libsol.net/enter.html

They've changed their layout since I last bought it, so you might have to do

a little looking around. Let me know if you have any trouble finding it.

It might also be listed under " ergoloid mesylates " (or something like that.)

Patty

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't buy a lot of hydergine until you take some. The only real

contraindication to it is an allergy to hydergine. But, being one of 3

alkaloids extracted from ergot in the 40's by Sandoz, looking for a

hypertension drug, an allergy to any of them is a possibility.

The other two ergot alkaloids were LSD-25 & bromocriptine. I must have

taken acid 1500 times in my youth and it always agreed with me. I

currently take bromocriptine and it agrees with me. But, I discontinued

hydergine because I'm allergic to it in the 4.5 mg dose. My longevity MD

got me to try it again at 1 mg, which I tolerated, but I'm not going to

pay $30 for 30 1mg doses.

Bottom line is hydergine is the only nootropic so far for which I have

nothing nice to say. Deprenyl kicked my butt bigtime once when I took a

little too much, but I still take it in small doses. I've got hydergine

sitting in a drawer.

jim

Patty wrote:

>

> > CAn you give me the www on hte place to get hydergine. Thanks, Ken

>

> http://libsol.net/enter.html

>

> They've changed their layout since I last bought it, so you might have to do

> a little looking around. Let me know if you have any trouble finding it.

> It might also be listed under " ergoloid mesylates " (or something like that.)

> Patty

>

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[Guest guest]

holy jumpin' crimminey, jim :-)

i only took it about 500-600 times and i've been told i'm beyond the

psychological pale for-

ever and ever because of it.

y'all must be a old hippie too.

'Frisco hashberryian myself... '66-70-something.. at least as much of

'66-'70-something as i can remember. heh heh

Dennis

A. : . A. : .

[Guest guest]

Dennis,

Sorry, I'm not a hippie. They were those young upstarts who came along

and THOUGHT they knew what we were doing and did their version. And, as

things happen, there were more of them & they were louder & noisier

about it. Even rub-your-nose-in-it as often as not. And, they had a

catchy slogan: " Sex, drugs & rock & roll! "

I consider myself a retired flower child. ;-) West Village NYC, 1963-80

something. Hippies mistook Universal love for hedonism, sacraments as

intoxicants and they diverted a quest for the Holy Grail into a drunken

orgy!

Although, I do have to confess, I did enjoy quite a few of the parties,

until, as the Mexican saying goes, " In time, every joke loses its

humor. " ! I get high on green leafy vegetable juice now! :)

jim

superflous1@... wrote:

>

> holy jumpin' crimminey, jim :-)

> i only took it about 500-600 times and i've been told i'm beyond the

> psychological pale for-

> ever and ever because of it.

> y'all must be a old hippie too.

> 'Frisco hashberryian myself... '66-70-something.. at least as much of

> '66-'70-something as i can remember. heh heh

>

> Dennis

>

> A. : . A. : .

>

>

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[Guest guest]

y'all seems to have a pretty dim view of hippies for someone who wasn't

there. the methodology and the pharmacology were the same for both

coasts and the underscore of

searching for spiritual values and living in harmony on earth were the

same for both.

maybe you just have a skosh of the

" us vs. them " mentality left over from the

" old-old " days?

Dennis

A. : . A. : .

[Guest guest]

wait a minute...

were you a beatnick? if so... kewl.

personally my first ambition was to be either a bohemian or a beatnick.

i really would have prefered bohemian though. artsy craftsy poetic

wine drinking introspectives. philosophers

all and damned fine humane beings to boot.

but i'm prejudiced :-)

unfortunately i was too old and the bohemians and beatnicks had pretty

much faded by the late 50's.

so i hitched my wagon to the Hashberrys rising star and wasn't

disappointed for... for quite some time.

it's been fun reminiscing :-)

Dennis

A. : . A. : .

[Guest guest]

Dear Super and Jim,

Since it seems to be time for 'fessing up,

I will admit to several dozen LSD trips myself...

.... and pounds of pot...

.... and lots of hash (remember hot knives??)...

.... a bit of coke... a few MDMA...

.... but my favorite was mescaline... like being under water and connected

to the pulse of the whole world...

....best for concerts...some of the peak experiences of my life....

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Re: Re:Hydergine

> holy jumpin' crimminey, jim :-)

> i only took it about 500-600 times and i've been told i'm beyond the

> psychological pale for-

> ever and ever because of it.

> y'all must be a old hippie too.

> 'Frisco hashberryian myself... '66-70-something.. at least as much of

> '66-'70-something as i can remember. heh heh

>

> Dennis

>

> A. : . A. : .

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

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hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found

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or health care provider.

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[Guest guest]

Well, God bless, Saul, et al,

Is this going to turn into confession night?

I know, Saul, I did just about everything there was back then, but there

were a few months once, when a friend gave me a double-handed scoop of

freeze-dried strawberry tablets, containing organic mescaline -- about

1000 hits. He looked me in the eye, and said, " Here, spread these

around. "

It was a mission. I gave most of them to strangers at one of the first

4th of July smoke-ins at the mall in D.C. (If any listmembers happened

to have worked at the intelligence agency that photographed us & kept a

copy of the pictures, I'd love some!)

Seriously, life has become what many of us saw coming years ago. We have

a world where everybody did something foolish in their youth, and we're

still decent people! We listen to what politicians are really saying,

and ignore the anti-drug rhetoric as the pandering it is, and take note

of the panderers!

To be sure, I am an aggressive opponent of making intoxicants available

to minors -- and even immature adults! But, we have better things to do

with people's lives and tax dollars than to have them fight each other

in the criminal justice system! It has to be obvious to anyone with a

functioning brain cell that people who want drugs will get them. It is

human nature. Prohibition cannot work! Since it is a nutritional

deficiency, why not treat it as such? It is a medical problem for

doctors who specialize in this!

Addiction is a metabolic disease. It is an area where the

cut/poison/burn style of medicine is impotent. Addiction is a deficiency

disease where the body's most important sensor, the one to tell when

something important is missing, get's turned on all the time! Just

imagine that!

The reaching out for sugar, alcohol, pot, whatever.... is the body's

attempt to reach homeostasis -- that place where it get's to relax! It

wants to relax!! It is going to relax if it has to kill you! The only

way to turn off that sensor is nutrition. Wheat grass juice if you are

in a hurry.

The next first thing to try in every disease/disorder is oxygen! HBOT!

Ozone in most of its incarnations! Exercise to increase oxygen levels!

Diet to do same. It's all oxygen! Learn to understand it! You are a

carbon unit. You require oxygen. ;-)

jim

[Guest guest]

Dear Jim,

Amen!

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Re: Re:Hydergine

> Well, God bless, Saul, et al,

>

> Is this going to turn into confession night?

>

> I know, Saul, I did just about everything there was back then, but there

> were a few months once, when a friend gave me a double-handed scoop of

> freeze-dried strawberry tablets, containing organic mescaline -- about

> 1000 hits. He looked me in the eye, and said, " Here, spread these

> around. "

>

> It was a mission. I gave most of them to strangers at one of the first

> 4th of July smoke-ins at the mall in D.C. (If any listmembers happened

> to have worked at the intelligence agency that photographed us & kept a

> copy of the pictures, I'd love some!)

>

> Seriously, life has become what many of us saw coming years ago. We have

> a world where everybody did something foolish in their youth, and we're

> still decent people! We listen to what politicians are really saying,

> and ignore the anti-drug rhetoric as the pandering it is, and take note

> of the panderers!

>

> To be sure, I am an aggressive opponent of making intoxicants available

> to minors -- and even immature adults! But, we have better things to do

> with people's lives and tax dollars than to have them fight each other

> in the criminal justice system! It has to be obvious to anyone with a

> functioning brain cell that people who want drugs will get them. It is

> human nature. Prohibition cannot work! Since it is a nutritional

> deficiency, why not treat it as such? It is a medical problem for

> doctors who specialize in this!

>

> Addiction is a metabolic disease. It is an area where the

> cut/poison/burn style of medicine is impotent. Addiction is a deficiency

> disease where the body's most important sensor, the one to tell when

> something important is missing, get's turned on all the time! Just

> imagine that!

>

> The reaching out for sugar, alcohol, pot, whatever.... is the body's

> attempt to reach homeostasis -- that place where it get's to relax! It

> wants to relax!! It is going to relax if it has to kill you! The only

> way to turn off that sensor is nutrition. Wheat grass juice if you are

> in a hurry.

>

> The next first thing to try in every disease/disorder is oxygen! HBOT!

> Ozone in most of its incarnations! Exercise to increase oxygen levels!

> Diet to do same. It's all oxygen! Learn to understand it! You are a

> carbon unit. You require oxygen. ;-)

>

> jim

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

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hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found

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[Guest guest]

Oh my Gosh, now you guys have me scared to take the hydergine I

bought....and I've got quite a supply (wanted to get the most I could out of

the $12 shipping I paid from Hong Kong...:~)

I have nothing to fess up to, except a bad one time experience with pot that

made me throw up--never again!!!!

So, do I take this hydergine for my brain or not?

Patty

Re: Re:Hydergine

> Dear Super and Jim,

>

> Since it seems to be time for 'fessing up,

> I will admit to several dozen LSD trips myself...

> ... and pounds of pot...

> ... and lots of hash (remember hot knives??)...

> ... a bit of coke... a few MDMA...

> ... but my favorite was mescaline... like being under water and connected

> to the pulse of the whole world...

> ...best for concerts...some of the peak experiences of my life....

>

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

>

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> email: saul@...

>

> " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that

created

> them " . - Einstein

[Guest guest]

Patty,

Most certainly, yes! Take it. I only caution people to start hydergine

slowly initially to make sure they have no reaction. It is good stuff!

But, it takes months for most folks to notice any improvement from it.

It is one of those things you take because you know it is good for you,

not because you can feel it. That's another reason I prefer

pramiracetam, I can feel what it is doing for my level of awarness.

jim

Patty wrote:

>

> Oh my Gosh, now you guys have me scared to take the hydergine I

> bought....and I've got quite a supply (wanted to get the most I could out of

> the $12 shipping I paid from Hong Kong...:~)

> I have nothing to fess up to, except a bad one time experience with pot that

> made me throw up--never again!!!!

> So, do I take this hydergine for my brain or not?

> Patty

> ----- Original Message -----

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Dear Debbie,

Potter who ?? (heh, heh)

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Hydergine

>

>

> > Since it seems to be time for 'fessing up,

> > I will admit to several dozen LSD trips myself...

> > ... and pounds of pot...

> > ... and lots of hash (remember hot knives??)...

> > ... a bit of coke... a few MDMA...

> > ... but my favorite was mescaline... like being under water and

connected

> > to the pulse of the whole world...

> > ...best for concerts...some of the peak experiences of my life....

>

> I credited drugs with bringing me out of my shell:). Never got to

> try mescaline, I guess you can " type " me cuz crystal was my

> choice.

> So....to borrow from allopathics, we must now draw the conclusion

> that drug use disposes one to being a Potter groupie?.

>

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Deb,

I meet a LOT of old hippies in the health food store. ;-) The national

WHole Foods Market chain was started in Austin by some 6th street

hippies!

jm

Debbie Mc wrote:

> So....to borrow from allopathics, we must now draw the conclusion

> that drug use disposes one to being a Potter groupie?.

[Guest guest]

Deb,

Do you eat your meat raw? If you do, I'm impressed. I used to when I was

a teenager. I've been thinking about going all raw food and eating meat

& fish that way, to get the digestive enzymes.

The syntax of your music question confuses me. Do you mean acid-loving

music, loving on acid music or music I loved in the acid days? My answer

to all three is STONES! I still listen to them, but now I prefer my

blues with more of an up beat, a la Keb Mo, or the master of humorous

irony, Randy Newman.

jim

Debbie Mc wrote:

>

> I love old Hippies:) We now have an Whole Foods and my dogs are

> proud to eat raw meat and bones and veggies from this paradise of

> culinary delights:), along with their mom, who foregoes the bones.

> You all should come over for some organic rib eyes:). I'm in TX

> too:O.

> Ok, what was your best acid lovin music? I did love Leon

> and some great British blues:), would have been 1971 for my first

> time in the orange sunshine.

>

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Deb,

What do you mean lost your protection? SBO's, specifically plantarum,

subtilis, salivarius and probably others, all dirctly kill & consume e.

coli, salmonella, shigella, candida and many other pathogens. That's

wpart of the reason I take them on a daily basis.

How about sushi? I'm thinking of reading a book on sushi to see what I

can serve at home.

jim

Debbie Mc wrote:

>

> Jim Lambert wrote:

I did but with my built in protection gone, I sear the outside

just long enough to kill stuff. I only eat beef raw, have not

graduated to the other stuff:)