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For those of us with kids that only have a Burger King and Mc's within 100 miles of them, though, this is HUGE

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Rick LovegroSent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:01 AMTo: SillyYaks Subject: RE: Mcs

I'll be the odd one out. I've always despised McD sothis is no loss to me personally. The Hardee'slow-carb Thickburger is SOOOO much better thananything McD has ever made. Even my kids never likedMcD for the food, although when they were little theyalways wanted to go for the playground.richard__________________________________________________

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Seeings they just did that piece on the girl with Celiac, heck yeah!! It could be a tie in with that and the new labeling law.... hmmmm.....

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of lucky3668@...Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:43 AMTo: SillyYaks Subject: RE: Re: Mcs

Maybe Good Morning America?!?!?!?

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:47:56 -0500, Calacci, Bridget wrote > However, if it was there all along, they knew it, and still put it on their lists and didn't declare it they deserve to get sued and there is some attorney somewhere that would take it on. Are at least maybe there is some media attention out there..... I just sent an email to our local news. NEver know, it can't hurt. > >

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of cyebel > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:45 AM > To: SillyYaks > Subject: Re: Mcs > > > I completely agree that it's time consuming and costly, not to mention > difficult and frustrating. I sit all day long and read/listen to the > way cases unfold and I know what would be in store for someone who > would attempt to do this. Time, frustration, etc., is not necessarily > more important than accountability of companies like Mcs. > > C > > > >

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Seeings they just did that piece on the girl with Celiac, heck yeah!! It could be a tie in with that and the new labeling law.... hmmmm.....

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of lucky3668@...Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:43 AMTo: SillyYaks Subject: RE: Re: Mcs

Maybe Good Morning America?!?!?!?

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:47:56 -0500, Calacci, Bridget wrote > However, if it was there all along, they knew it, and still put it on their lists and didn't declare it they deserve to get sued and there is some attorney somewhere that would take it on. Are at least maybe there is some media attention out there..... I just sent an email to our local news. NEver know, it can't hurt. > >

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of cyebel > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:45 AM > To: SillyYaks > Subject: Re: Mcs > > > I completely agree that it's time consuming and costly, not to mention > difficult and frustrating. I sit all day long and read/listen to the > way cases unfold and I know what would be in store for someone who > would attempt to do this. Time, frustration, etc., is not necessarily > more important than accountability of companies like Mcs. > > C > > > >

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Seeings they just did that piece on the girl with Celiac, heck yeah!! It could be a tie in with that and the new labeling law.... hmmmm.....

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of lucky3668@...Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:43 AMTo: SillyYaks Subject: RE: Re: Mcs

Maybe Good Morning America?!?!?!?

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:47:56 -0500, Calacci, Bridget wrote > However, if it was there all along, they knew it, and still put it on their lists and didn't declare it they deserve to get sued and there is some attorney somewhere that would take it on. Are at least maybe there is some media attention out there..... I just sent an email to our local news. NEver know, it can't hurt. > >

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of cyebel > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:45 AM > To: SillyYaks > Subject: Re: Mcs > > > I completely agree that it's time consuming and costly, not to mention > difficult and frustrating. I sit all day long and read/listen to the > way cases unfold and I know what would be in store for someone who > would attempt to do this. Time, frustration, etc., is not necessarily > more important than accountability of companies like Mcs. > > C > > > >

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Sometimes this is true, but this certainly doesn't

appear to be such a case. Exactly how would you prove

any harm specifically from the fries (except of course

that they're just horribly bad for anybody who eats

them)? The calories and transfats are the real danger

here.

richard

--- cyebel wrote:

> Sometimes a lawsuit is the only way to make it clear

> that it's a

> serious and important issue, as well as

> demonstrating how important

> disclosure and accountability are.

>

> You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

>

> C

>

>

>

>

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Sometimes this is true, but this certainly doesn't

appear to be such a case. Exactly how would you prove

any harm specifically from the fries (except of course

that they're just horribly bad for anybody who eats

them)? The calories and transfats are the real danger

here.

richard

--- cyebel wrote:

> Sometimes a lawsuit is the only way to make it clear

> that it's a

> serious and important issue, as well as

> demonstrating how important

> disclosure and accountability are.

>

> You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

>

> C

>

>

>

>

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Sometimes this is true, but this certainly doesn't

appear to be such a case. Exactly how would you prove

any harm specifically from the fries (except of course

that they're just horribly bad for anybody who eats

them)? The calories and transfats are the real danger

here.

richard

--- cyebel wrote:

> Sometimes a lawsuit is the only way to make it clear

> that it's a

> serious and important issue, as well as

> demonstrating how important

> disclosure and accountability are.

>

> You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

>

> C

>

>

>

>

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Oftentimes in law, it is the mens rea (or intent) that is the

important element of a crime/offense, not the demonstration of or

requirement of actual harm that is necessary.

Reckless disregard or negligence are examples, which is why this is

likely actionable.

C

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Oftentimes in law, it is the mens rea (or intent) that is the

important element of a crime/offense, not the demonstration of or

requirement of actual harm that is necessary.

Reckless disregard or negligence are examples, which is why this is

likely actionable.

C

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No I agree its not more important... and companies should be accountable,

however I'm wondering if prior to the labeling law, if companies like

Mcs had to disclose very small amounts of food products, like the

ingredients in their spices (which is where the wheat, beef and dairy are

coming from). Certainly what they have done is morally/ethically wrong, but

was it actually illegal.

I was just mentioning the time issue because personally as a single mom, I

am the sole bread winner in our household, I didn't get awarded any support

and he doesn't always come up with child support either... so time for me is

what keeps a roof over our head. And sadly that is more important to me

then fighting a lawsuit.

JMHO

> I completely agree that it's time consuming and costly, not to mention

> difficult and frustrating. I sit all day long and read/listen to the

> way cases unfold and I know what would be in store for someone who

> would attempt to do this. Time, frustration, etc., is not necessarily

> more important than accountability of companies like Mcs.

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No I agree its not more important... and companies should be accountable,

however I'm wondering if prior to the labeling law, if companies like

Mcs had to disclose very small amounts of food products, like the

ingredients in their spices (which is where the wheat, beef and dairy are

coming from). Certainly what they have done is morally/ethically wrong, but

was it actually illegal.

I was just mentioning the time issue because personally as a single mom, I

am the sole bread winner in our household, I didn't get awarded any support

and he doesn't always come up with child support either... so time for me is

what keeps a roof over our head. And sadly that is more important to me

then fighting a lawsuit.

JMHO

> I completely agree that it's time consuming and costly, not to mention

> difficult and frustrating. I sit all day long and read/listen to the

> way cases unfold and I know what would be in store for someone who

> would attempt to do this. Time, frustration, etc., is not necessarily

> more important than accountability of companies like Mcs.

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No I agree its not more important... and companies should be accountable,

however I'm wondering if prior to the labeling law, if companies like

Mcs had to disclose very small amounts of food products, like the

ingredients in their spices (which is where the wheat, beef and dairy are

coming from). Certainly what they have done is morally/ethically wrong, but

was it actually illegal.

I was just mentioning the time issue because personally as a single mom, I

am the sole bread winner in our household, I didn't get awarded any support

and he doesn't always come up with child support either... so time for me is

what keeps a roof over our head. And sadly that is more important to me

then fighting a lawsuit.

JMHO

> I completely agree that it's time consuming and costly, not to mention

> difficult and frustrating. I sit all day long and read/listen to the

> way cases unfold and I know what would be in store for someone who

> would attempt to do this. Time, frustration, etc., is not necessarily

> more important than accountability of companies like Mcs.

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Maybe Good Morning America?!?!?!?

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:47:56 -0500, Calacci, Bridget wrote

> However, if it was there all along, they knew it, and still put it on their lists and didn't declare it they deserve to get sued and there is some attorney somewhere that would take it on. Are at least maybe there is some media attention out there..... I just sent an email to our local news. NEver know, it can't hurt.

> >

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of cyebel

> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:45 AM

> To: SillyYaks

> Subject: Re: Mcs

>

> > I completely agree that it's time consuming and costly, not to mention > difficult and frustrating.  I sit all day long and read/listen to the > way cases unfold and I know what would be in store for someone who > would attempt to do this.  Time, frustration, etc., is not necessarily > more important than accountability of companies like Mcs.

> > C

> >

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I personally hate

Mc’s food, but there are some parts of the Country where it is the

only hot food concession along an interstate, and they also have concessions in

other places where other choices are not readily available. I remember seeking

refuge in one (before-gf) is a snow storm along the NY thruway. Even though it

would never be my first (or second, third, or fourth) choice, it is a loss to

have one less emergency choice.

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Rick Lovegro

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006

11:01 AM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: RE: Mcs

I'll be the odd one out. I've

always despised McD so

this is no loss to me personally. The Hardee's

low-carb Thickburger is SOOOO much better than

anything McD has ever made. Even my kids never

liked

McD for the food, although when they were little

they

always wanted to go for the playground.

richard

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I personally hate

Mc’s food, but there are some parts of the Country where it is the

only hot food concession along an interstate, and they also have concessions in

other places where other choices are not readily available. I remember seeking

refuge in one (before-gf) is a snow storm along the NY thruway. Even though it

would never be my first (or second, third, or fourth) choice, it is a loss to

have one less emergency choice.

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Rick Lovegro

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006

11:01 AM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: RE: Mcs

I'll be the odd one out. I've

always despised McD so

this is no loss to me personally. The Hardee's

low-carb Thickburger is SOOOO much better than

anything McD has ever made. Even my kids never

liked

McD for the food, although when they were little

they

always wanted to go for the playground.

richard

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I personally hate

Mc’s food, but there are some parts of the Country where it is the

only hot food concession along an interstate, and they also have concessions in

other places where other choices are not readily available. I remember seeking

refuge in one (before-gf) is a snow storm along the NY thruway. Even though it

would never be my first (or second, third, or fourth) choice, it is a loss to

have one less emergency choice.

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Rick Lovegro

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006

11:01 AM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: RE: Mcs

I'll be the odd one out. I've

always despised McD so

this is no loss to me personally. The Hardee's

low-carb Thickburger is SOOOO much better than

anything McD has ever made. Even my kids never

liked

McD for the food, although when they were little

they

always wanted to go for the playground.

richard

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Bridget,

Us Vermonters must think alike--revolutionaries at heart. I sent a

long, impassioned e-mail to the reporter who wrote that excellent Wall

Street Journal article.

in Southern VT

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Bridget,

Us Vermonters must think alike--revolutionaries at heart. I sent a

long, impassioned e-mail to the reporter who wrote that excellent Wall

Street Journal article.

in Southern VT

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Bridget,

Us Vermonters must think alike--revolutionaries at heart. I sent a

long, impassioned e-mail to the reporter who wrote that excellent Wall

Street Journal article.

in Southern VT

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