Re: Doc Appt./ Zoloft

[Guest guest]

I'm not depressed either. The doc started me on Zoloft a couple of weeks

ago in hopes that it would mess with the crossed signals my body sends.

So far I haven't noticed any change. I'm still gimpy :-)

Lyndi

valerie wrote:

>

> Had my doc appt. she wanted to put me on Zoloft but I'm not

> depressed. She prescribed Flexeral and Ultram. I felt a little better

> today.

> I think the changing weather has caused me to flare up.

> If these meds don't work out she wants to add Zoloft. Does anyone

> take this? Abd how does it effect you?

> Bye for now, .

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm not depressed either. The doc started me on Zoloft a couple of weeks

ago in hopes that it would mess with the crossed signals my body sends.

So far I haven't noticed any change. I'm still gimpy :-)

Lyndi

valerie wrote:

>

> Had my doc appt. she wanted to put me on Zoloft but I'm not

> depressed. She prescribed Flexeral and Ultram. I felt a little better

> today.

> I think the changing weather has caused me to flare up.

> If these meds don't work out she wants to add Zoloft. Does anyone

> take this? Abd how does it effect you?

> Bye for now, .

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I know for depression ... zoloft and other SSRI's

... take a few weeks to

become effective.. don't know if its the same for

FMS... but I would

think it would be....

I can't take any of them.. cause I'm bipolar..

and it sends me spiraling into

mania... lol... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Serena

=====

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for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

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In a message dated 11/09/2001 12:27:49 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

briteyyez4@... writes:

> know for depression ... zoloft and other SSRI's

> .. take a few weeks to

Yes she is correct you must have these anti-depressants in your body for a

solid two weeks before they or anyone else can really tell if they are

helping...its kinda like taking anti-biotics...take em til they are gone.

[Guest guest]

,

Have you tried the guaifenesin? I know Zoloft isn't a cure, and it can have some

pretty serious side effects, but the guaifenesin, on the other hand is about the

safest medication out there. It's been in use over 100 years, and the only known

side effect is a rare occurrance of nausea.

The guai actually reverses the illness. I've been on it since September 17th (I

think... in the middle of all the fibrofog, I'm not entirely certain when I

started...!), and I already feel incredibly better. I'm sleeping through the

night (with the help of my new Sunbeam Warming Blanket) and the muscle pain is

70% better than it was. And I should be feeling totally miserable right now,

since I'm about to start my period! My energy levels have increased enormously.

I only sometimes notice the flu-like symptoms, and I haven't had a bedridden day

for weeks now.

Just to give you a before-and-after picture of how I was doing... I have 6 young

kids, and there is a park with a playground and swimming pool across the street.

I hadn't been able to take the kids across the street to the park in 4 months.

My house was a complete wreck and I couldn't do the shopping any longer.

Yesterday we took the kids to the playground, we even walked around the field.

Then afterwards, I volunteered to walk 4 blocks to the store with the kids. I

did suffer some fibrofog AT the store -- I wandered around in there for an hour,

trying to decide what to buy - but I slept pretty good last night (would have

been great, except the baby woke me up) and today I'm planning to take the kids

to the library and the mall.

This is more activity in 2 days than I was able to do all summer.

And last week, we thoroughly cleaned out 3 bedrooms, including washing carpets

and walls and shelves, and today, before we go to the library, we're going to

clean out the garage.

I am telling you, I could not do any of this a few months ago. I would wake up

in the morning and CRY - struggle into the tub to try to soak the pain out of my

body. And then I'd lay back down for a while.

Guaifenesin is no longer under patent and it's pretty inexpensive. The pills

sell for 25 cents to a dollar each, and, depending on the body, it takes 1 to 6

pills a day.

Check it out at http://www.guaidoc.com

Treatment can be tough at first (a few weeks ago I thought I couldn't stand it

anymore), but already I can say it's been well worth it! I am getting my life

back!!

--Jane

Doc Appt./ Zoloft

Had my doc appt. she wanted to put me on Zoloft but I'm not

depressed. She prescribed Flexeral and Ultram. I felt a little better

today.

I think the changing weather has caused me to flare up.

If these meds don't work out she wants to add Zoloft. Does anyone

take this? Abd how does it effect you?

Bye for now, .

[Guest guest]

,

Have you tried the guaifenesin? I know Zoloft isn't a cure, and it can have some

pretty serious side effects, but the guaifenesin, on the other hand is about the

safest medication out there. It's been in use over 100 years, and the only known

side effect is a rare occurrance of nausea.

The guai actually reverses the illness. I've been on it since September 17th (I

think... in the middle of all the fibrofog, I'm not entirely certain when I

started...!), and I already feel incredibly better. I'm sleeping through the

night (with the help of my new Sunbeam Warming Blanket) and the muscle pain is

70% better than it was. And I should be feeling totally miserable right now,

since I'm about to start my period! My energy levels have increased enormously.

I only sometimes notice the flu-like symptoms, and I haven't had a bedridden day

for weeks now.

Just to give you a before-and-after picture of how I was doing... I have 6 young

kids, and there is a park with a playground and swimming pool across the street.

I hadn't been able to take the kids across the street to the park in 4 months.

My house was a complete wreck and I couldn't do the shopping any longer.

Yesterday we took the kids to the playground, we even walked around the field.

Then afterwards, I volunteered to walk 4 blocks to the store with the kids. I

did suffer some fibrofog AT the store -- I wandered around in there for an hour,

trying to decide what to buy - but I slept pretty good last night (would have

been great, except the baby woke me up) and today I'm planning to take the kids

to the library and the mall.

This is more activity in 2 days than I was able to do all summer.

And last week, we thoroughly cleaned out 3 bedrooms, including washing carpets

and walls and shelves, and today, before we go to the library, we're going to

clean out the garage.

I am telling you, I could not do any of this a few months ago. I would wake up

in the morning and CRY - struggle into the tub to try to soak the pain out of my

body. And then I'd lay back down for a while.

Guaifenesin is no longer under patent and it's pretty inexpensive. The pills

sell for 25 cents to a dollar each, and, depending on the body, it takes 1 to 6

pills a day.

Check it out at http://www.guaidoc.com

Treatment can be tough at first (a few weeks ago I thought I couldn't stand it

anymore), but already I can say it's been well worth it! I am getting my life

back!!

--Jane

Doc Appt./ Zoloft

Had my doc appt. she wanted to put me on Zoloft but I'm not

depressed. She prescribed Flexeral and Ultram. I felt a little better

today.

I think the changing weather has caused me to flare up.

If these meds don't work out she wants to add Zoloft. Does anyone

take this? Abd how does it effect you?

Bye for now, .

[Guest guest]

,

Have you tried the guaifenesin? I know Zoloft isn't a cure, and it can have some

pretty serious side effects, but the guaifenesin, on the other hand is about the

safest medication out there. It's been in use over 100 years, and the only known

side effect is a rare occurrance of nausea.

The guai actually reverses the illness. I've been on it since September 17th (I

think... in the middle of all the fibrofog, I'm not entirely certain when I

started...!), and I already feel incredibly better. I'm sleeping through the

night (with the help of my new Sunbeam Warming Blanket) and the muscle pain is

70% better than it was. And I should be feeling totally miserable right now,

since I'm about to start my period! My energy levels have increased enormously.

I only sometimes notice the flu-like symptoms, and I haven't had a bedridden day

for weeks now.

Just to give you a before-and-after picture of how I was doing... I have 6 young

kids, and there is a park with a playground and swimming pool across the street.

I hadn't been able to take the kids across the street to the park in 4 months.

My house was a complete wreck and I couldn't do the shopping any longer.

Yesterday we took the kids to the playground, we even walked around the field.

Then afterwards, I volunteered to walk 4 blocks to the store with the kids. I

did suffer some fibrofog AT the store -- I wandered around in there for an hour,

trying to decide what to buy - but I slept pretty good last night (would have

been great, except the baby woke me up) and today I'm planning to take the kids

to the library and the mall.

This is more activity in 2 days than I was able to do all summer.

And last week, we thoroughly cleaned out 3 bedrooms, including washing carpets

and walls and shelves, and today, before we go to the library, we're going to

clean out the garage.

I am telling you, I could not do any of this a few months ago. I would wake up

in the morning and CRY - struggle into the tub to try to soak the pain out of my

body. And then I'd lay back down for a while.

Guaifenesin is no longer under patent and it's pretty inexpensive. The pills

sell for 25 cents to a dollar each, and, depending on the body, it takes 1 to 6

pills a day.

Check it out at http://www.guaidoc.com

Treatment can be tough at first (a few weeks ago I thought I couldn't stand it

anymore), but already I can say it's been well worth it! I am getting my life

back!!

--Jane

Doc Appt./ Zoloft

Had my doc appt. she wanted to put me on Zoloft but I'm not

depressed. She prescribed Flexeral and Ultram. I felt a little better

today.

I think the changing weather has caused me to flare up.

If these meds don't work out she wants to add Zoloft. Does anyone

take this? Abd how does it effect you?

Bye for now, .

[Guest guest]

LOL.. I will warn you.. if you are bipolar.. you

may not be able to do the guaf therapy... it

spiraled me back and forth between mania and

depression when I took it for a cold.. I can't

take it at all....

of course I can't take any SSRI's either.. sigh..

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

LOL.. I will warn you.. if you are bipolar.. you

may not be able to do the guaf therapy... it

spiraled me back and forth between mania and

depression when I took it for a cold.. I can't

take it at all....

of course I can't take any SSRI's either.. sigh..

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

When I met with my pain Dr., I told him I was on Amitriptylene, and he asked

me what dose, and I told him 50 mg.. He told me that a dose for depression

would be in the 300 mg range. I guess I was surprised at how much more a

person could take of this stuff.

Since I started gaining weight, I immediately called my GP, and asked for

something else. Weight gain is the last thing I want, or need. Anyway, he

took me off of it, and put me on 5 mg of Ambien, which works well for me.

I'm allowed 10mg if I need it, but I haven't needed it so far. I admit, it

takes me a little bit longer to fall asleep, but I think the sleep I'm

getting is better, and I wake up well rested, not zombie like. Personally,

I wish they'd have put me on it in the first place. Oh well, live and

learn!

Carol

Re: Doc Appt./ Zoloft

valerie wrote:

>

> Had my doc appt. she wanted to put me on Zoloft but I'm not

> depressed. She prescribed Flexeral and Ultram. I felt a little better

> today.

> I think the changing weather has caused me to flare up.

> If these meds don't work out she wants to add Zoloft. Does anyone

> take this? Abd how does it effect you?

>

It's not unusual for a doctor to want to put you on low doses of

antidepressants for fibro. It will sometimes help. They usually don't

give the level that you give someone for depression, it's lower than

that.

Darcy

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[Guest guest]

When I met with my pain Dr., I told him I was on Amitriptylene, and he asked

me what dose, and I told him 50 mg.. He told me that a dose for depression

would be in the 300 mg range. I guess I was surprised at how much more a

person could take of this stuff.

Since I started gaining weight, I immediately called my GP, and asked for

something else. Weight gain is the last thing I want, or need. Anyway, he

took me off of it, and put me on 5 mg of Ambien, which works well for me.

I'm allowed 10mg if I need it, but I haven't needed it so far. I admit, it

takes me a little bit longer to fall asleep, but I think the sleep I'm

getting is better, and I wake up well rested, not zombie like. Personally,

I wish they'd have put me on it in the first place. Oh well, live and

learn!

Carol

Re: Doc Appt./ Zoloft

valerie wrote:

>

> Had my doc appt. she wanted to put me on Zoloft but I'm not

> depressed. She prescribed Flexeral and Ultram. I felt a little better

> today.

> I think the changing weather has caused me to flare up.

> If these meds don't work out she wants to add Zoloft. Does anyone

> take this? Abd how does it effect you?

>

It's not unusual for a doctor to want to put you on low doses of

antidepressants for fibro. It will sometimes help. They usually don't

give the level that you give someone for depression, it's lower than

that.

Darcy

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2001 11:20:26 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

bluskies@... writes:

> The reason that they're considered addictive is that after you've been on

> them for a certain amount of time (differs from one person to the next),

> you can't go to sleep without them

*( I am like this with my clonzepam...I am really bad addiccted to them.

I take 1/2 pill everynight before bed..and if I don't....well I'm up for at

least a day..solid....so i am trying to slowly ween myself off of these

horrible things...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2001 11:20:26 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

bluskies@... writes:

> The reason that they're considered addictive is that after you've been on

> them for a certain amount of time (differs from one person to the next),

> you can't go to sleep without them

*( I am like this with my clonzepam...I am really bad addiccted to them.

I take 1/2 pill everynight before bed..and if I don't....well I'm up for at

least a day..solid....so i am trying to slowly ween myself off of these

horrible things...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2001 11:20:26 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

bluskies@... writes:

> The reason that they're considered addictive is that after you've been on

> them for a certain amount of time (differs from one person to the next),

> you can't go to sleep without them

*( I am like this with my clonzepam...I am really bad addiccted to them.

I take 1/2 pill everynight before bed..and if I don't....well I'm up for at

least a day..solid....so i am trying to slowly ween myself off of these

horrible things...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2001 12:55:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

digitalangel@... writes:

> You can read about it, if you want to, at

> this website.....

>

Thanks for that website Rhonda I am very much interested in this because like

I said in my earlier post I am addicted to a medicene that they gave me a

year ago to help me sleep. I can not sleep without and I am awake at least 24

hours solid if I don't take it...its sooo frustrating...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2001 12:55:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

digitalangel@... writes:

> You can read about it, if you want to, at

> this website.....

>

Thanks for that website Rhonda I am very much interested in this because like

I said in my earlier post I am addicted to a medicene that they gave me a

year ago to help me sleep. I can not sleep without and I am awake at least 24

hours solid if I don't take it...its sooo frustrating...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2001 12:55:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

digitalangel@... writes:

> You can read about it, if you want to, at

> this website.....

>

Thanks for that website Rhonda I am very much interested in this because like

I said in my earlier post I am addicted to a medicene that they gave me a

year ago to help me sleep. I can not sleep without and I am awake at least 24

hours solid if I don't take it...its sooo frustrating...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

Carol Lugg wrote:

Anyway, he

> took me off of it, and put me on 5 mg of Ambien, which works well for me.

> I'm allowed 10mg if I need it, but I haven't needed it so far. I admit, it

> takes me a little bit longer to fall asleep, but I think the sleep I'm

> getting is better, and I wake up well rested, not zombie like. Personally,

> I wish they'd have put me on it in the first place.

Doctors often don't like to keep patients on Ambien long term. They

kind of go back and forth about whether it's addicting or not.

Supposedly, it's only addictive in quantities above 20 mgs, but a lot of

doctors still don't like to keep you on it long term even in lesser

doses than that. My doctor doesn't like to keep me on it much longer

than a month or two.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

It's not only the doctor's, the manufacturers don't like patients to take it

for more than 7 to 10 day's. Doctor's are permitted to give them longer if

it's necessary. I never heard anything about them being addicting though.

Thanks for the info. I haven't had them for a while and now that I know

this, I don't want them either. I'm on enough stuff that I *know* is

addicting, at least physically.

Rhonda

Re: Doc Appt./ Zoloft

>

> Doctors often don't like to keep patients on Ambien long term. They

> kind of go back and forth about whether it's addicting or not.

> Supposedly, it's only addictive in quantities above 20 mgs, but a lot of

> doctors still don't like to keep you on it long term even in lesser

> doses than that. My doctor doesn't like to keep me on it much longer

> than a month or two.

> Darcy

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

The reason that they're considered addictive is that after you've been on

them for a certain amount of time (differs from one person to the next),

you can't go to sleep without them and have to go through almost a " detox "

process where you stay awake for awhile until you can sleep without their

help again. It's not an actual physical addiction - more like your body

and mind getting used to having help going to sleep. Also, I don't know if

the newer meds have fixed the problem or not, but drugs like halcion were

notorious for causing bad dreams and even waking " hallucinations " in some

people- so usage needed to be monitored very closely. Usually a good

relaxation routine before bedtime, as well as going to bed at the same time

every night, will clear up most sleep problems....

-

At 11:05 AM 11/11/01 -0500, you wrote:

>It's not only the doctor's, the manufacturers don't like patients to take it

>for more than 7 to 10 day's. Doctor's are permitted to give them longer if

>it's necessary. I never heard anything about them being addicting though.

>Thanks for the info. I haven't had them for a while and now that I know

>this, I don't want them either. I'm on enough stuff that I *know* is

>addicting, at least physically.

>

>Rhonda

[Guest guest]

DigitalAngel wrote:

>

> It's not only the doctor's, the manufacturers don't like patients to take it

> for more than 7 to 10 day's. Doctor's are permitted to give them longer if

> it's necessary. I never heard anything about them being addicting though.

I know I went on to one web site which I think was the actual

manufacturer's site, although I won't swear it, and it was " may be

addicting " at a higher level then most people take it. I've also seen

other people who say their doctor says it's addicting at 10 mgs. which

is the level my doctor gave it to me at. My doctor mentioned something

about it could be addicting which is why she switched me. On the other

hand, I have taken it a couple of times for a month or so each time.

Never had a problem getting off of it or anything that made me feel like

I was addicted. I guess it's one of those YMMV type things for both

taking it and whether your doctor thinks it might be addicting.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

I wondered about it as well, but my Dr. said that while he doesn't want me

on it for years, he wasn't at all concerned about it for the next several

months. I think I'm going to talk to my pain Dr. in the morning about it.

I really don't want to go back to the anti-depressants again. As a matter

of fact, I've decided not to, due to the weight factor. I'm trying to lose

weight, not re-gain what I lost, and then gain more! I guess we'll just

have to deal with it then. I don't find the med addictive, but I do admit,

I'm addicted to sleeping! I have to be up early in the morning (during the

week, I'm up at 5:50, and on Sundays, I'm up around 4:00 a.m.), so I'm

thankful for a medicine that I can take at night that will help me sleep

well, but still let me get up in the morning without feeling hung over. It

seems to me, that if I was addicted to it, I'd be trying to take more of it,

(meaning during the day), and I would be wanting higher doses. I don't

know, I've not ever been addicted to any type of drugs, so I'm just guessing

here.

Carol

Re: Doc Appt./ Zoloft

Carol Lugg wrote:

Anyway, he

> took me off of it, and put me on 5 mg of Ambien, which works well for me.

> I'm allowed 10mg if I need it, but I haven't needed it so far. I admit,

it

> takes me a little bit longer to fall asleep, but I think the sleep I'm

> getting is better, and I wake up well rested, not zombie like.

Personally,

> I wish they'd have put me on it in the first place.

Doctors often don't like to keep patients on Ambien long term. They

kind of go back and forth about whether it's addicting or not.

Supposedly, it's only addictive in quantities above 20 mgs, but a lot of

doctors still don't like to keep you on it long term even in lesser

doses than that. My doctor doesn't like to keep me on it much longer

than a month or two.

Darcy

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[Guest guest]

I wondered about it as well, but my Dr. said that while he doesn't want me

on it for years, he wasn't at all concerned about it for the next several

months. I think I'm going to talk to my pain Dr. in the morning about it.

I really don't want to go back to the anti-depressants again. As a matter

of fact, I've decided not to, due to the weight factor. I'm trying to lose

weight, not re-gain what I lost, and then gain more! I guess we'll just

have to deal with it then. I don't find the med addictive, but I do admit,

I'm addicted to sleeping! I have to be up early in the morning (during the

week, I'm up at 5:50, and on Sundays, I'm up around 4:00 a.m.), so I'm

thankful for a medicine that I can take at night that will help me sleep

well, but still let me get up in the morning without feeling hung over. It

seems to me, that if I was addicted to it, I'd be trying to take more of it,

(meaning during the day), and I would be wanting higher doses. I don't

know, I've not ever been addicted to any type of drugs, so I'm just guessing

here.

Carol

Re: Doc Appt./ Zoloft

Carol Lugg wrote:

Anyway, he

> took me off of it, and put me on 5 mg of Ambien, which works well for me.

> I'm allowed 10mg if I need it, but I haven't needed it so far. I admit,

it

> takes me a little bit longer to fall asleep, but I think the sleep I'm

> getting is better, and I wake up well rested, not zombie like.

Personally,

> I wish they'd have put me on it in the first place.

Doctors often don't like to keep patients on Ambien long term. They

kind of go back and forth about whether it's addicting or not.

Supposedly, it's only addictive in quantities above 20 mgs, but a lot of

doctors still don't like to keep you on it long term even in lesser

doses than that. My doctor doesn't like to keep me on it much longer

than a month or two.

Darcy

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[Guest guest]

Not everyone has an addictive personality. Some things that may be

addicting to one person, may not be to another. It has something to do with

the way your brain functions. You can read about it, if you want to, at

this website.....

http://health.discovery.com/fansites/science_of/howitworks-addiction.html

I saw this on the Discovery Health Channel a few months ago. It was pretty

interesting.

Rhonda

Re: Doc Appt./ Zoloft

>

>

> DigitalAngel wrote:

> >

> > It's not only the doctor's, the manufacturers don't like patients to

take it

> > for more than 7 to 10 day's. Doctor's are permitted to give them

longer if

> > it's necessary. I never heard anything about them being addicting

though.

>

> I know I went on to one web site which I think was the actual

> manufacturer's site, although I won't swear it, and it was " may be

> addicting " at a higher level then most people take it. I've also seen

> other people who say their doctor says it's addicting at 10 mgs. which

> is the level my doctor gave it to me at. My doctor mentioned something

> about it could be addicting which is why she switched me. On the other

> hand, I have taken it a couple of times for a month or so each time.

> Never had a problem getting off of it or anything that made me feel like

> I was addicted. I guess it's one of those YMMV type things for both

> taking it and whether your doctor thinks it might be addicting.

> Darcy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2001 2:20:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

catstamp@... writes:

> I have gain some weight due to the antidepressant, but I'd

> *much* rather have the extra weight than the overwhelming feeling of

> depression

Amen...me too....I have gained about 15 lbs since I was put on

anti-depressants, but I was sooo depressed I sat in my recliner for 3 days

solid and the only reason I ever got up was to go to the bathroom and get

something to eat thats it....I sat and stared at my fish tank all day in a

daze wondering when I was going to die...but then my mother dragged me out of

the house in the middle of winter and took me to the doctor and got me on

some medicene and now I am a little better, but I still have my ups and downs

like most of us do.

Allicia