Re: Very confused - Fatimah

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey all

>

> I'd purchased dr. Cutler's book a while back when my sister and I

had

> started our 100 wk chelation using DMSA (100 mg every 4 hours for 3

> days on, 4 days off) and Alpha Lipoic acid (200 mg) everytime with

the

> dmsa...including other vitamins & minerals.

TK--- If I am reading the above correctly you are on week 100 of

chelation,

what was the dosage that you increased from ?

were there side effects at that dosage ?

How long did you chelate with the prior dosage ?

TK--- the above amount of chelator is too much and is moving too much

Hg for your body to handle causing too much redistribution. Please

reduce dosage - recommended dosage [by wieght] is in the links

section. [Most] people find that the amount of ALA needs to be less

than the DMSA ususlly 2-1 dmsa to ala.

>

> The thing is that we're done with our 19th week and none of the

> symptoms whatsoever are becoming the slightest bit better. In

> fact...during the past 3 minutes it seems that my body had become a

> machine that can 'click ' whenever i move any joints. I'm an athlete

> so if I'm doing pushups, my shoulders click everytime i do one, if

i'm

> supposed to do squats, my knees joints click as if there's no joint

> fluid left there...I do not understand how this has happened so

> rapidly ???

>

> Also my younger 21 yr old sister, one of the most brilliantly minded

> people I've ever known or read about seem to have trouble speaking

> ordinary words nevermind come up with esays and papers she used to

> write since she was 16. Aside from the 'brain tremours' she

mentioned,

> and amongst her advanced osteo-arthritic state in knees, hands etc

her

> hands shake as if she has passed the beginning stages of parkinsons.

> from what little i know, this sounds like MS symptoms, she also has

> the highest levels of acid in her body according to her specialist

> who's renowned in south africa. She was worried about her vocal

chords

> and so went to him to find out what to do and how far it had gone.

>

> I do not understand why constructing the simplest of sentences has

> become something which is alien. My sister knew words longer than

her

> height and know in her 19th week of chelation, it seems that

> everything is slowly but surely shutting down :-( !! We'd contracted

> mercury poisoning 6 yrs ago, she was 14 turning 15 and i was 17

> turning 18. She'd not gotten a proper monthly period since then and

as

> a result has been going through a really severe and advance

menopause

> with ALL the symptoms including a very very alarming loss of

> elasticity in the skin and SEVERE hair loss.

>

> We have so many of the symptoms dr. cutler mentioned in his book

that

> when she spoke to him, he said it was very unusual for anyone to

have

> that many at one time. If one is suppose to chelate .5 $ to 1 %

> everyday on this program, then why is this just getting worse ?

>

> I'm really at a loss because we try our best, although money is

> scarce, we try to only eat whatever limited foods are organic here

> when we can get it. We suppliment with vitamin c, co-enzyme, milk

> thistle and so on. Since we knew about the poisoning 12 months ago,

we

> filter our drinking water and have no touched seafood since then.

> Since south africa does not have organic meat, we barely touch

> anything aside from free range chicken on occasion. Our daily diet

> mainly consists of fruit, vegetable and usually

rice/bread/potatoes. I

> used to suppliment with the USN 100 % whey Protein Powder but since

> I'd started using it 5 months ago, I'm unsure whether there are

> rBST/rBGH growth hormones in the protein and though USN has said no,

> when asked for the certificate, they've failed to produce. Besides

> I've not gotten my periods for almost 12 weeks now and have put on

3.5

> kgs O_o and counting. as each week goes by i seem to add another .5

to

> 750 g of weight. Anyone heard anything shady about USN ?

>

> Anyway, someone please help me figure out what's going on because

> honestly I'm stumped.

>

> many thanks and best regards

> Fatimah

>

> If Dr. Cutler or anyone else can somehow shed some light on what is

> happening i'd greatly appreciate.

>

[Guest guest]

hi TK

lol, i had written that wrong. We've finished wk 19 on the 100 wk

plan. When my sister had written to dr. cutler, he'd told her than

using dmsa/ala combo for more than 100 wks is not advisable and

whatever could be chelated during that 100 wk period would have

already done so.

previously we'd used 100 mg dmsa, every 4 hours for i think a time

frame of 3 - 6 months (brain really foggy right now) the same side

effects i write of now were just somewhat lighter before...now it's

intensified. except for the 'crunching/grinding effect of my bones.

Same appalling hair loss, osteophytic formation on the footbones and

else where, brain tremours and MS-like symptoms in my sister, racing

heart with my mother, dark patches and liver spots springing up all

over (no one consumes alcohol in my family)

Only since writing here have i known about the dmsa/ala ratio. in the

book, the amount shown ie. dmsa/ala ratio of (50 - 100 mg/50 - 200 mg)

respectively were used. We were going on that and i do now realise

that the dosage needs to be adjusted although if were are going by

weight then my current dosage of dmsa if i were going on .5 mg per

pound would be around 93 mg..lol..not so far from the current dosage

now (don't ask about this awful weight gain, i suspect it has to also

do with my abnormally high cortisol levels.)

> >

> > Hey all

> >

> > I'd purchased dr. Cutler's book a while back when my sister and I

> had

> > started our 100 wk chelation using DMSA (100 mg every 4 hours for 3

> > days on, 4 days off) and Alpha Lipoic acid (200 mg) everytime with

> the

> > dmsa...including other vitamins & minerals.

>

>

> TK--- If I am reading the above correctly you are on week 100 of

> chelation,

> what was the dosage that you increased from ?

> were there side effects at that dosage ?

> How long did you chelate with the prior dosage ?

>

> TK--- the above amount of chelator is too much and is moving too much

> Hg for your body to handle causing too much redistribution. Please

> reduce dosage - recommended dosage [by wieght] is in the links

> section. [Most] people find that the amount of ALA needs to be less

> than the DMSA ususlly 2-1 dmsa to ala.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > The thing is that we're done with our 19th week and none of the

> > symptoms whatsoever are becoming the slightest bit better. In

> > fact...during the past 3 minutes it seems that my body had become a

> > machine that can 'click ' whenever i move any joints. I'm an athlete

> > so if I'm doing pushups, my shoulders click everytime i do one, if

> i'm

> > supposed to do squats, my knees joints click as if there's no joint

> > fluid left there...I do not understand how this has happened so

> > rapidly ???

> >

> > Also my younger 21 yr old sister, one of the most brilliantly minded

> > people I've ever known or read about seem to have trouble speaking

> > ordinary words nevermind come up with esays and papers she used to

> > write since she was 16. Aside from the 'brain tremours' she

> mentioned,

> > and amongst her advanced osteo-arthritic state in knees, hands etc

> her

> > hands shake as if she has passed the beginning stages of parkinsons.

> > from what little i know, this sounds like MS symptoms, she also has

> > the highest levels of acid in her body according to her specialist

> > who's renowned in south africa. She was worried about her vocal

> chords

> > and so went to him to find out what to do and how far it had gone.

> >

> > I do not understand why constructing the simplest of sentences has

> > become something which is alien. My sister knew words longer than

> her

> > height and know in her 19th week of chelation, it seems that

> > everything is slowly but surely shutting down :-( !! We'd contracted

> > mercury poisoning 6 yrs ago, she was 14 turning 15 and i was 17

> > turning 18. She'd not gotten a proper monthly period since then and

> as

> > a result has been going through a really severe and advance

> menopause

> > with ALL the symptoms including a very very alarming loss of

> > elasticity in the skin and SEVERE hair loss.

> >

> > We have so many of the symptoms dr. cutler mentioned in his book

> that

> > when she spoke to him, he said it was very unusual for anyone to

> have

> > that many at one time. If one is suppose to chelate .5 $ to 1 %

> > everyday on this program, then why is this just getting worse ?

> >

> > I'm really at a loss because we try our best, although money is

> > scarce, we try to only eat whatever limited foods are organic here

> > when we can get it. We suppliment with vitamin c, co-enzyme, milk

> > thistle and so on. Since we knew about the poisoning 12 months ago,

> we

> > filter our drinking water and have no touched seafood since then.

> > Since south africa does not have organic meat, we barely touch

> > anything aside from free range chicken on occasion. Our daily diet

> > mainly consists of fruit, vegetable and usually

> rice/bread/potatoes. I

> > used to suppliment with the USN 100 % whey Protein Powder but since

> > I'd started using it 5 months ago, I'm unsure whether there are

> > rBST/rBGH growth hormones in the protein and though USN has said no,

> > when asked for the certificate, they've failed to produce. Besides

> > I've not gotten my periods for almost 12 weeks now and have put on

> 3.5

> > kgs O_o and counting. as each week goes by i seem to add another .5

> to

> > 750 g of weight. Anyone heard anything shady about USN ?

> >

> > Anyway, someone please help me figure out what's going on because

> > honestly I'm stumped.

> >

> > many thanks and best regards

> > Fatimah

> >

> > If Dr. Cutler or anyone else can somehow shed some light on what is

> > happening i'd greatly appreciate.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hi TK

lol, i had written that wrong. We've finished wk 19 on the 100 wk

plan. When my sister had written to dr. cutler, he'd told her than

using dmsa/ala combo for more than 100 wks is not advisable and

whatever could be chelated during that 100 wk period would have

already done so.

previously we'd used 100 mg dmsa, every 4 hours for i think a time

frame of 3 - 6 months (brain really foggy right now) the same side

effects i write of now were just somewhat lighter before...now it's

intensified. except for the 'crunching/grinding effect of my bones.

Same appalling hair loss, osteophytic formation on the footbones and

else where, brain tremours and MS-like symptoms in my sister, racing

heart with my mother, dark patches and liver spots springing up all

over (no one consumes alcohol in my family)

Only since writing here have i known about the dmsa/ala ratio. in the

book, the amount shown ie. dmsa/ala ratio of (50 - 100 mg/50 - 200 mg)

respectively were used. We were going on that and i do now realise

that the dosage needs to be adjusted although if were are going by

weight then my current dosage of dmsa if i were going on .5 mg per

pound would be around 93 mg..lol..not so far from the current dosage

now (don't ask about this awful weight gain, i suspect it has to also

do with my abnormally high cortisol levels.)

> >

> > Hey all

> >

> > I'd purchased dr. Cutler's book a while back when my sister and I

> had

> > started our 100 wk chelation using DMSA (100 mg every 4 hours for 3

> > days on, 4 days off) and Alpha Lipoic acid (200 mg) everytime with

> the

> > dmsa...including other vitamins & minerals.

>

>

> TK--- If I am reading the above correctly you are on week 100 of

> chelation,

> what was the dosage that you increased from ?

> were there side effects at that dosage ?

> How long did you chelate with the prior dosage ?

>

> TK--- the above amount of chelator is too much and is moving too much

> Hg for your body to handle causing too much redistribution. Please

> reduce dosage - recommended dosage [by wieght] is in the links

> section. [Most] people find that the amount of ALA needs to be less

> than the DMSA ususlly 2-1 dmsa to ala.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > The thing is that we're done with our 19th week and none of the

> > symptoms whatsoever are becoming the slightest bit better. In

> > fact...during the past 3 minutes it seems that my body had become a

> > machine that can 'click ' whenever i move any joints. I'm an athlete

> > so if I'm doing pushups, my shoulders click everytime i do one, if

> i'm

> > supposed to do squats, my knees joints click as if there's no joint

> > fluid left there...I do not understand how this has happened so

> > rapidly ???

> >

> > Also my younger 21 yr old sister, one of the most brilliantly minded

> > people I've ever known or read about seem to have trouble speaking

> > ordinary words nevermind come up with esays and papers she used to

> > write since she was 16. Aside from the 'brain tremours' she

> mentioned,

> > and amongst her advanced osteo-arthritic state in knees, hands etc

> her

> > hands shake as if she has passed the beginning stages of parkinsons.

> > from what little i know, this sounds like MS symptoms, she also has

> > the highest levels of acid in her body according to her specialist

> > who's renowned in south africa. She was worried about her vocal

> chords

> > and so went to him to find out what to do and how far it had gone.

> >

> > I do not understand why constructing the simplest of sentences has

> > become something which is alien. My sister knew words longer than

> her

> > height and know in her 19th week of chelation, it seems that

> > everything is slowly but surely shutting down :-( !! We'd contracted

> > mercury poisoning 6 yrs ago, she was 14 turning 15 and i was 17

> > turning 18. She'd not gotten a proper monthly period since then and

> as

> > a result has been going through a really severe and advance

> menopause

> > with ALL the symptoms including a very very alarming loss of

> > elasticity in the skin and SEVERE hair loss.

> >

> > We have so many of the symptoms dr. cutler mentioned in his book

> that

> > when she spoke to him, he said it was very unusual for anyone to

> have

> > that many at one time. If one is suppose to chelate .5 $ to 1 %

> > everyday on this program, then why is this just getting worse ?

> >

> > I'm really at a loss because we try our best, although money is

> > scarce, we try to only eat whatever limited foods are organic here

> > when we can get it. We suppliment with vitamin c, co-enzyme, milk

> > thistle and so on. Since we knew about the poisoning 12 months ago,

> we

> > filter our drinking water and have no touched seafood since then.

> > Since south africa does not have organic meat, we barely touch

> > anything aside from free range chicken on occasion. Our daily diet

> > mainly consists of fruit, vegetable and usually

> rice/bread/potatoes. I

> > used to suppliment with the USN 100 % whey Protein Powder but since

> > I'd started using it 5 months ago, I'm unsure whether there are

> > rBST/rBGH growth hormones in the protein and though USN has said no,

> > when asked for the certificate, they've failed to produce. Besides

> > I've not gotten my periods for almost 12 weeks now and have put on

> 3.5

> > kgs O_o and counting. as each week goes by i seem to add another .5

> to

> > 750 g of weight. Anyone heard anything shady about USN ?

> >

> > Anyway, someone please help me figure out what's going on because

> > honestly I'm stumped.

> >

> > many thanks and best regards

> > Fatimah

> >

> > If Dr. Cutler or anyone else can somehow shed some light on what is

> > happening i'd greatly appreciate.

> >

>