US versue UK MD level training (Re: Re: Scope of Practice Questions

[Guest guest]

Apples and oranges. Medical are in the UK can be as good as here. There is a

network of General Practitioners who see most everything through the

National Health system. They refer to specialists. Nobody goes to specialist

first. On occasion, if you have a non-emergent problem and go to the ED,

they may not see you and refer you back to your GP. The UK system does not

provide everybody with all possible care. For example, if you are 65 or

older and in renal failure, you will not get a transplant--just dialysis.

The physicians are just as good--the system is different. People have a

whole different mindset there. If you continue to smoke, you may not get

that bypass or continue to drink and get a liver. They ration care and costs

and people accept that.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

http://www.bryanbledsoe.com

US versue UK MD level training (Re: Re: Scope of

Practice Questions

In a message dated 12/6/2004 22:32:55 Eastern Standard Time,

bbledsoe@... writes:

That is why the United States and Canada require a 4-year college degree

before medical school. They want people with a broad knowledge base and

good problem solving skills. The British medical schools begin right out of

high school and are only 6 years in length (instead of the US 8). As they

say in emergency medicine, it is not the test--it is the training.

So Doc how would you compare the levels of care (without dealing with the

insurance issues that are a BIG part of delivery of care in both the US and

UK).

Same patient, same levels of facility side by side trauma and medical one

in the US one in the UK how does the " level of care " compare?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

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[Guest guest]

Apples and oranges. Medical are in the UK can be as good as here. There is a

network of General Practitioners who see most everything through the

National Health system. They refer to specialists. Nobody goes to specialist

first. On occasion, if you have a non-emergent problem and go to the ED,

they may not see you and refer you back to your GP. The UK system does not

provide everybody with all possible care. For example, if you are 65 or

older and in renal failure, you will not get a transplant--just dialysis.

The physicians are just as good--the system is different. People have a

whole different mindset there. If you continue to smoke, you may not get

that bypass or continue to drink and get a liver. They ration care and costs

and people accept that.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

http://www.bryanbledsoe.com

US versue UK MD level training (Re: Re: Scope of

Practice Questions

In a message dated 12/6/2004 22:32:55 Eastern Standard Time,

bbledsoe@... writes:

That is why the United States and Canada require a 4-year college degree

before medical school. They want people with a broad knowledge base and

good problem solving skills. The British medical schools begin right out of

high school and are only 6 years in length (instead of the US 8). As they

say in emergency medicine, it is not the test--it is the training.

So Doc how would you compare the levels of care (without dealing with the

insurance issues that are a BIG part of delivery of care in both the US and

UK).

Same patient, same levels of facility side by side trauma and medical one

in the US one in the UK how does the " level of care " compare?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

(Home Office)

(Cell Phone)

(TEEX Office)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is

intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or

confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed

in the public domain by the original author.

[Guest guest]

Apples and oranges. Medical are in the UK can be as good as here. There is a

network of General Practitioners who see most everything through the

National Health system. They refer to specialists. Nobody goes to specialist

first. On occasion, if you have a non-emergent problem and go to the ED,

they may not see you and refer you back to your GP. The UK system does not

provide everybody with all possible care. For example, if you are 65 or

older and in renal failure, you will not get a transplant--just dialysis.

The physicians are just as good--the system is different. People have a

whole different mindset there. If you continue to smoke, you may not get

that bypass or continue to drink and get a liver. They ration care and costs

and people accept that.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

http://www.bryanbledsoe.com

US versue UK MD level training (Re: Re: Scope of

Practice Questions

In a message dated 12/6/2004 22:32:55 Eastern Standard Time,

bbledsoe@... writes:

That is why the United States and Canada require a 4-year college degree

before medical school. They want people with a broad knowledge base and

good problem solving skills. The British medical schools begin right out of

high school and are only 6 years in length (instead of the US 8). As they

say in emergency medicine, it is not the test--it is the training.

So Doc how would you compare the levels of care (without dealing with the

insurance issues that are a BIG part of delivery of care in both the US and

UK).

Same patient, same levels of facility side by side trauma and medical one

in the US one in the UK how does the " level of care " compare?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

(Home Office)

(Cell Phone)

(TEEX Office)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is

intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or

confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed

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[Guest guest]

>> The day I have to go to school 4 years and then go 2 more for

paramedic I think I would just go...<<

How did we go from people opposing a 4-year paramedic program to

people opposing a 6-year paramedic program?

Before the discussion is over with, people will be opposing the NSoP

requiring 32 years of college, all at UT Southwest - with a tuition

of 1 billion dollars per year and all the money going directly to the

instructors.

Kenny Navarro

Future Billionaire