Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi all, I'd be interested in an interpretation of the following hair test: http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/Ian.jpg It doesn't meet any of the counting rules, but I was wondering if any more information can be gleaned. The diagnosis is CFS. Many thanks, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi , It looks like a normal hair test to me. Low metals, no mineral derangement. Almost all the ratio's are met barring one: The Na/Mg ratio is low 0.93 - should be between 1-5. If Less than 1 the body can't make enough adrenaline leads to poor mood and energy (supplement with tyrosine, trimethylglycine (TMG), folic acid, B6, B12.) I have found this ration low in two other people with CFS-type symptoms. I have just added TMG for a low Na/Mg score like that and I feel MUCH better in only two days. Suddenly I have more energy and am sweating again, which to me is VERY positive. I guess that tells me my methylation pathways are poor in my liver where noradrenaline is methylated to make adrenaline. Has this person had their liver pathways tested? Do they have amalgams, root canals or cavitations? It would seem they are not been made ill by mercury, but only a trial chelation would confirm that. Otherwise I'm not sure if you advise anything with the scores that tend towards the green in normal mineral transport like this. If anything there is an all-low presentation with more lines under the 50th percentile. Perhaps absorption/digestion issues. Also the Calcium and Magnesium usually track each other like the Sodium and Magnesium do. This is not the case in this test, but I don't know what that means. The zinc is high end of green (that might actually mean more is needed) and the copper is high end (maybe accumulating copper due to sluggish liver and bile flow?) I don't know how to read much more into this test?? Anybody else? Dean Hair test Hi all, I'd be interested in an interpretation of the following hair test: http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/Ian.jpg It doesn't meet any of the counting rules, but I was wondering if any more information can be gleaned. The diagnosis is CFS. Many thanks, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 >Also the Calcium and Magnesium usually track each other like the Sodium and Magnesium do. >This is not the case in this test, but I don't know what that means. Sorry, that was meant to say '.....like Sodium and Potassium do'. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 , I agree with Dean's comments. Despite not meeting the counting rules, it doesn't seem like a normal test. If you look at Andy's " normal looking tests " in the HTI book (p. 27-33), this just doesn't fit. The lack of symmetry really stands out. Dean suggested it looks a bit like an " all low " test and that seems right - if all the levels were shifted a bit to the left, it would meet counting rule 1. I wish I could tell you something more. Your manganese looks lowish, but nothing of great significance. I suspect you are doing a lot of things (supplements, etc) that make you feel better, and that is shifting the hair test so it doesn't meet the counting rules. Do your symptoms seem consistent with mercury? Is chelation helping? -- > > Hi all, > I'd be interested in an interpretation of the following hair test: > > http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/Ian.jpg > > It doesn't meet any of the counting rules, but I was wondering if any > more information can be gleaned. The diagnosis is CFS. > > Many thanks, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Thanks very much Dean & , your comments have been a big help. To Dean - I'll direct the person concerned to read your comments. I don't know them directly (its the partner of someone who posts on autism-mercury). To - Its not my hair test! Thanks very much for the comments - you confirmed what I was thinking but couldn't articulate. It isn't classic deranged minerals, but something looks wrong. I totally agree that if everything gets shifted right a bit then it meets rule 1. Once you said it, it looks obvious. I agree with both of you that trial chelation might be in order. Given that the person has CFS he may already be supplementing with lots of things and so biasing his test towards normal. Incidentally here is the hair test of the partner (Sue), which meets Counting rule 1 (all low): http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/Sue.jpg thanks again, . " " wrote: > > , > > I agree with Dean's comments. > > Despite not meeting the counting rules, it doesn't seem like a > normal test. If you look at Andy's " normal looking tests " > in the HTI book (p. 27-33), this just doesn't fit. The lack of > symmetry really stands out. > > Dean suggested it looks a bit like an " all low " test and that > seems right - if all the levels were shifted a bit to the left, > it would meet counting rule 1. > > I wish I could tell you something more. Your manganese looks > lowish, but nothing of great significance. I suspect you are > doing a lot of things (supplements, etc) that make you feel > better, and that is shifting the hair test so it doesn't meet > the counting rules. Do your symptoms seem consistent with > mercury? Is chelation helping? > > -- > > > > > > > Hi all, > > I'd be interested in an interpretation of the following hair test: > > > > http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/Ian.jpg > > > > It doesn't meet any of the counting rules, but I was wondering if any > > more information can be gleaned. The diagnosis is CFS. > > > > Many thanks, > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Thanks very much Dean & , your comments have been a big help. To Dean - I'll direct the person concerned to read your comments. I don't know them directly (its the partner of someone who posts on autism-mercury). To - Its not my hair test! Thanks very much for the comments - you confirmed what I was thinking but couldn't articulate. It isn't classic deranged minerals, but something looks wrong. I totally agree that if everything gets shifted right a bit then it meets rule 1. Once you said it, it looks obvious. I agree with both of you that trial chelation might be in order. Given that the person has CFS he may already be supplementing with lots of things and so biasing his test towards normal. Incidentally here is the hair test of the partner (Sue), which meets Counting rule 1 (all low): http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/Sue.jpg thanks again, . " " wrote: > > , > > I agree with Dean's comments. > > Despite not meeting the counting rules, it doesn't seem like a > normal test. If you look at Andy's " normal looking tests " > in the HTI book (p. 27-33), this just doesn't fit. The lack of > symmetry really stands out. > > Dean suggested it looks a bit like an " all low " test and that > seems right - if all the levels were shifted a bit to the left, > it would meet counting rule 1. > > I wish I could tell you something more. Your manganese looks > lowish, but nothing of great significance. I suspect you are > doing a lot of things (supplements, etc) that make you feel > better, and that is shifting the hair test so it doesn't meet > the counting rules. Do your symptoms seem consistent with > mercury? Is chelation helping? > > -- > > > > > > > Hi all, > > I'd be interested in an interpretation of the following hair test: > > > > http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/Ian.jpg > > > > It doesn't meet any of the counting rules, but I was wondering if any > > more information can be gleaned. The diagnosis is CFS. > > > > Many thanks, > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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