Re: Symptoms worsening, about to start chelation, need support.

October 31, 2006

>

> Do you think this may be due to my amalgam removal?

Yes, amalgam removal can stir up symptoms.

>

> Should I start DMSA asap?

Yes, you can start if ALL of your amalgam has been removed. Not having the

permanent

crowns placed yet is not a problem. No amalgam is the important part.

>

> I have 100mg DMSA tablets, cutting those into 12.5mg chunks seems a

> bit tricky. Where can I get smaller sizes?

You can buy DMSA in 25 mg capsules at www.vrp.com

>

> I'm taking 2-4 g Vitamin C per day.

> Omega-3 fish oil, distilled for Hg removal.

> 400 IU of Vitamin E.

> I know this is a lot less than Andy recommends, but he recommends a

> lot. What are people normally taking as supplements that works for them?

You should be taking more supportive supplements. If you go to Autism-Mercury,

and

look up the Supplement File in the Files section you will find recommended

supplements

for chelation based on weight. I think this is a good place to start, then

thumb through

Amalgam Illness and add other supplements you may need to ameliorate your

symptoms

while you chelate.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/

Also, many poisoned people seem to need adrenal and/or thyroid support in order

to feel

comfortable during detox. This may need to be taken care of before you proceed

with

chelation. Your MD can order the tests or you can order them yourself without

an MD

from a place like www.canaryclub.org

>

> I'm also taking 400mg Doxycycline antibiotic for Lymes prevention.

I'm not familiar with this, but with any antibiotic you should be taking plenty

of probiotics

for gut health. Many people need to implement anti-yeast protocols via changes

in diet,

use of digestive enzymes and/or yeast killers, plus probiotics.

> Any advice will be profoundly appreciated, this is confusing and

> scary. Andy's book is quite clear, but also a bit scary and I'd

> appreciate some live opinions and support.

>

Yes. My advice, again, is to thumb through AI, and look for recommendations of

things to

take to help with your particular symptoms. Then take them. Also, check

your thyroid

and adrenal function to help your ability to function.

Best,

in Illinois, going on round 43

October 31, 2006

>

> Do you think this may be due to my amalgam removal?

Yes, amalgam removal can stir up symptoms.

>

> Should I start DMSA asap?

Yes, you can start if ALL of your amalgam has been removed. Not having the

permanent

crowns placed yet is not a problem. No amalgam is the important part.

>

> I have 100mg DMSA tablets, cutting those into 12.5mg chunks seems a

> bit tricky. Where can I get smaller sizes?

You can buy DMSA in 25 mg capsules at www.vrp.com

>

> I'm taking 2-4 g Vitamin C per day.

> Omega-3 fish oil, distilled for Hg removal.

> 400 IU of Vitamin E.

> I know this is a lot less than Andy recommends, but he recommends a

> lot. What are people normally taking as supplements that works for them?

You should be taking more supportive supplements. If you go to Autism-Mercury,

and

look up the Supplement File in the Files section you will find recommended

supplements

for chelation based on weight. I think this is a good place to start, then

thumb through

Amalgam Illness and add other supplements you may need to ameliorate your

symptoms

while you chelate.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/

Also, many poisoned people seem to need adrenal and/or thyroid support in order

to feel

comfortable during detox. This may need to be taken care of before you proceed

with

chelation. Your MD can order the tests or you can order them yourself without

an MD

from a place like www.canaryclub.org

>

> I'm also taking 400mg Doxycycline antibiotic for Lymes prevention.

I'm not familiar with this, but with any antibiotic you should be taking plenty

of probiotics

for gut health. Many people need to implement anti-yeast protocols via changes

in diet,

use of digestive enzymes and/or yeast killers, plus probiotics.

> Any advice will be profoundly appreciated, this is confusing and

> scary. Andy's book is quite clear, but also a bit scary and I'd

> appreciate some live opinions and support.

>

Yes. My advice, again, is to thumb through AI, and look for recommendations of

things to

take to help with your particular symptoms. Then take them. Also, check

your thyroid

and adrenal function to help your ability to function.

Best,

in Illinois, going on round 43

October 31, 2006

>

> Do you think this may be due to my amalgam removal?

Yes, amalgam removal can stir up symptoms.

>

> Should I start DMSA asap?

Yes, you can start if ALL of your amalgam has been removed. Not having the

permanent

crowns placed yet is not a problem. No amalgam is the important part.

>

> I have 100mg DMSA tablets, cutting those into 12.5mg chunks seems a

> bit tricky. Where can I get smaller sizes?

You can buy DMSA in 25 mg capsules at www.vrp.com

>

> I'm taking 2-4 g Vitamin C per day.

> Omega-3 fish oil, distilled for Hg removal.

> 400 IU of Vitamin E.

> I know this is a lot less than Andy recommends, but he recommends a

> lot. What are people normally taking as supplements that works for them?

You should be taking more supportive supplements. If you go to Autism-Mercury,

and

look up the Supplement File in the Files section you will find recommended

supplements

for chelation based on weight. I think this is a good place to start, then

thumb through

Amalgam Illness and add other supplements you may need to ameliorate your

symptoms

while you chelate.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/

Also, many poisoned people seem to need adrenal and/or thyroid support in order

to feel

comfortable during detox. This may need to be taken care of before you proceed

with

chelation. Your MD can order the tests or you can order them yourself without

an MD

from a place like www.canaryclub.org

>

> I'm also taking 400mg Doxycycline antibiotic for Lymes prevention.

I'm not familiar with this, but with any antibiotic you should be taking plenty

of probiotics

for gut health. Many people need to implement anti-yeast protocols via changes

in diet,

use of digestive enzymes and/or yeast killers, plus probiotics.

> Any advice will be profoundly appreciated, this is confusing and

> scary. Andy's book is quite clear, but also a bit scary and I'd

> appreciate some live opinions and support.

>

Yes. My advice, again, is to thumb through AI, and look for recommendations of

things to

take to help with your particular symptoms. Then take them. Also, check

your thyroid

and adrenal function to help your ability to function.

Best,

in Illinois, going on round 43

October 31, 2006

, one other thing.

Please pay close attention to the graph in AI, pg. 52. There will be a

worsening of

symptoms 3-6 months post-amalgam removal and then a return to slow improvements

over time. This is the normal progression of detox and many people forget this.

in Illinois

October 31, 2006

, one other thing.

Please pay close attention to the graph in AI, pg. 52. There will be a

worsening of

symptoms 3-6 months post-amalgam removal and then a return to slow improvements

over time. This is the normal progression of detox and many people forget this.

in Illinois

October 31, 2006

, one other thing.

Please pay close attention to the graph in AI, pg. 52. There will be a

worsening of

symptoms 3-6 months post-amalgam removal and then a return to slow improvements

over time. This is the normal progression of detox and many people forget this.

in Illinois

October 31, 2006

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> For the past few years I've been suffering from depression, anxiety,

> fatigue and decreasing memory. I also had 23 mercury amalgam fillings.

>

> I had my fillings completely removed by a Huggins trained dentist 3

> weeks ago.

>

> Lately I'm having unpleasant symptoms, I'm not sure if it is caused by

> the removal but I feel my memory is getting worse by the day, I am

> starting to feel more and more depressed and this is completely new to

> me, I am starting to feel dumb. I work in medical research and am

> bombarded with complex problems routinely, this last week, I am having

> a hard time focus and understand things. This is getting scary for me.

,

I strongly suggest testing and treating your adrenals/thyroid

soon, perhaps before you start chelation. At a *minimum* you

should provide yourself more nutrients to support these glands.

Quoting from Andy's book, " Mercury can interfere with the production

of a hormone, the way it interacts with its receptor, or the way

the receptor makes things happen in the cell. "

Thyroid and adrenal function are often compromised and in my

experience treating my adrenals helped with memory and attention.

I'm sure you need to start chelating, as well, but I think it

is wise to get at least some minimal adrenal/thyroid support

in place first.

> Do you think this may be due to my amalgam removal?

Yes. After I had my amalgams removed, I got very hyper for

a few weeks and then started having more problems, including

the memory and attention thing. It was short term memory

mainly, I could not hold a thought in my head from the beginning

of a sentence until the end. Very distressing. I still get

this sometimes and it means I need to start a round (but I

would not want to do that without hormone support).

> Should I start DMSA asap?

It is somewhat a judgment call. For me personally, I wish I

had started some adrenal support first, but my adrenals were

in bad shape for a long time before starting. I didn't realize

that at the time. Read the section in Andy's book on hormones

and look up some info on the web about adrenal and thyroid

problems and see if it sounds like you. The symptoms you

describe over the last few years sound adrenal. Do you have

low blood sugar issues, trouble sleeping, weight loss , low

blood pressure?

> I have 100mg DMSA tablets, cutting those into 12.5mg chunks seems a

> bit tricky. Where can I get smaller sizes?

www.vrp.com has 25 mg caps.

> I'm taking 2-4 g Vitamin C per day.

> Omega-3 fish oil, distilled for Hg removal.

> 400 IU of Vitamin E.

> I know this is a lot less than Andy recommends, but he recommends a

> lot. What are people normally taking as supplements that works for

them?

Those are good, but you need B vitamins, zinc, magnesium.

Unless you specifically need them, some things like chromium,

molyb, could possibly wait until you've started chelating.

> I'm also taking 400mg Doxycycline antibiotic for Lymes prevention.

Prevention? I haven't heard of this, but I don't know much about

Lyme.

> Oh, i forgot to mention, that I still do not have my permanent crowns

> placed. Is this a problem? Do I need to wait before starting DMSA?

Not a problem as long as there is no amalgam left.

> Any advice will be profoundly appreciated, this is confusing and

> scary. Andy's book is quite clear, but also a bit scary and I'd

> appreciate some live opinions and support.

It can be scary at times. You are in the right place, though, and

it will be a lot less scary when you figure out what supps and

other support you need.

--

October 31, 2006

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> For the past few years I've been suffering from depression, anxiety,

> fatigue and decreasing memory. I also had 23 mercury amalgam fillings.

>

> I had my fillings completely removed by a Huggins trained dentist 3

> weeks ago.

>

> Lately I'm having unpleasant symptoms, I'm not sure if it is caused by

> the removal but I feel my memory is getting worse by the day, I am

> starting to feel more and more depressed and this is completely new to

> me, I am starting to feel dumb. I work in medical research and am

> bombarded with complex problems routinely, this last week, I am having

> a hard time focus and understand things. This is getting scary for me.

,

I strongly suggest testing and treating your adrenals/thyroid

soon, perhaps before you start chelation. At a *minimum* you

should provide yourself more nutrients to support these glands.

Quoting from Andy's book, " Mercury can interfere with the production

of a hormone, the way it interacts with its receptor, or the way

the receptor makes things happen in the cell. "

Thyroid and adrenal function are often compromised and in my

experience treating my adrenals helped with memory and attention.

I'm sure you need to start chelating, as well, but I think it

is wise to get at least some minimal adrenal/thyroid support

in place first.

> Do you think this may be due to my amalgam removal?

Yes. After I had my amalgams removed, I got very hyper for

a few weeks and then started having more problems, including

the memory and attention thing. It was short term memory

mainly, I could not hold a thought in my head from the beginning

of a sentence until the end. Very distressing. I still get

this sometimes and it means I need to start a round (but I

would not want to do that without hormone support).

> Should I start DMSA asap?

It is somewhat a judgment call. For me personally, I wish I

had started some adrenal support first, but my adrenals were

in bad shape for a long time before starting. I didn't realize

that at the time. Read the section in Andy's book on hormones

and look up some info on the web about adrenal and thyroid

problems and see if it sounds like you. The symptoms you

describe over the last few years sound adrenal. Do you have

low blood sugar issues, trouble sleeping, weight loss , low

blood pressure?

> I have 100mg DMSA tablets, cutting those into 12.5mg chunks seems a

> bit tricky. Where can I get smaller sizes?

www.vrp.com has 25 mg caps.

> I'm taking 2-4 g Vitamin C per day.

> Omega-3 fish oil, distilled for Hg removal.

> 400 IU of Vitamin E.

> I know this is a lot less than Andy recommends, but he recommends a

> lot. What are people normally taking as supplements that works for

them?

Those are good, but you need B vitamins, zinc, magnesium.

Unless you specifically need them, some things like chromium,

molyb, could possibly wait until you've started chelating.

> I'm also taking 400mg Doxycycline antibiotic for Lymes prevention.

Prevention? I haven't heard of this, but I don't know much about

Lyme.

> Oh, i forgot to mention, that I still do not have my permanent crowns

> placed. Is this a problem? Do I need to wait before starting DMSA?

Not a problem as long as there is no amalgam left.

> Any advice will be profoundly appreciated, this is confusing and

> scary. Andy's book is quite clear, but also a bit scary and I'd

> appreciate some live opinions and support.

It can be scary at times. You are in the right place, though, and

it will be a lot less scary when you figure out what supps and

other support you need.

--

October 31, 2006

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> For the past few years I've been suffering from depression, anxiety,

> fatigue and decreasing memory. I also had 23 mercury amalgam fillings.

>

> I had my fillings completely removed by a Huggins trained dentist 3

> weeks ago.

>

> Lately I'm having unpleasant symptoms, I'm not sure if it is caused by

> the removal but I feel my memory is getting worse by the day, I am

> starting to feel more and more depressed and this is completely new to

> me, I am starting to feel dumb. I work in medical research and am

> bombarded with complex problems routinely, this last week, I am having

> a hard time focus and understand things. This is getting scary for me.

,

I strongly suggest testing and treating your adrenals/thyroid

soon, perhaps before you start chelation. At a *minimum* you

should provide yourself more nutrients to support these glands.

Quoting from Andy's book, " Mercury can interfere with the production

of a hormone, the way it interacts with its receptor, or the way

the receptor makes things happen in the cell. "

Thyroid and adrenal function are often compromised and in my

experience treating my adrenals helped with memory and attention.

I'm sure you need to start chelating, as well, but I think it

is wise to get at least some minimal adrenal/thyroid support

in place first.

> Do you think this may be due to my amalgam removal?

Yes. After I had my amalgams removed, I got very hyper for

a few weeks and then started having more problems, including

the memory and attention thing. It was short term memory

mainly, I could not hold a thought in my head from the beginning

of a sentence until the end. Very distressing. I still get

this sometimes and it means I need to start a round (but I

would not want to do that without hormone support).

> Should I start DMSA asap?

It is somewhat a judgment call. For me personally, I wish I

had started some adrenal support first, but my adrenals were

in bad shape for a long time before starting. I didn't realize

that at the time. Read the section in Andy's book on hormones

and look up some info on the web about adrenal and thyroid

problems and see if it sounds like you. The symptoms you

describe over the last few years sound adrenal. Do you have

low blood sugar issues, trouble sleeping, weight loss , low

blood pressure?

> I have 100mg DMSA tablets, cutting those into 12.5mg chunks seems a

> bit tricky. Where can I get smaller sizes?

www.vrp.com has 25 mg caps.

> I'm taking 2-4 g Vitamin C per day.

> Omega-3 fish oil, distilled for Hg removal.

> 400 IU of Vitamin E.

> I know this is a lot less than Andy recommends, but he recommends a

> lot. What are people normally taking as supplements that works for

them?

Those are good, but you need B vitamins, zinc, magnesium.

Unless you specifically need them, some things like chromium,

molyb, could possibly wait until you've started chelating.

> I'm also taking 400mg Doxycycline antibiotic for Lymes prevention.

Prevention? I haven't heard of this, but I don't know much about

Lyme.

> Oh, i forgot to mention, that I still do not have my permanent crowns

> placed. Is this a problem? Do I need to wait before starting DMSA?

Not a problem as long as there is no amalgam left.

> Any advice will be profoundly appreciated, this is confusing and

> scary. Andy's book is quite clear, but also a bit scary and I'd

> appreciate some live opinions and support.

It can be scary at times. You are in the right place, though, and

it will be a lot less scary when you figure out what supps and

other support you need.

--

October 31, 2006

> Please pay close attention to the graph in AI, pg. 52. There will be a

worsening of

> symptoms 3-6 months post-amalgam removal and then a return to slow

improvements

> over time. This is the normal progression of detox and many people forget

this.

Yes. This is vital and easily forgotten information leading to despondency

and a scurry for new supplements to make us feel better, when actually we

are on course.

On page 237 HTI Andy says " Generally heavy metal detoxification involves

and exponential decay in symptoms..........

Mercury is the exception to this, with a few months of improvement, several

months of worsening and then slow improvements over many months "

We need to remember that point and remind people about it often so they are

prepared for the dip.

Dean.

October 31, 2006

> Please pay close attention to the graph in AI, pg. 52. There will be a

worsening of

> symptoms 3-6 months post-amalgam removal and then a return to slow

improvements

> over time. This is the normal progression of detox and many people forget

this.

Yes. This is vital and easily forgotten information leading to despondency

and a scurry for new supplements to make us feel better, when actually we

are on course.

On page 237 HTI Andy says " Generally heavy metal detoxification involves

and exponential decay in symptoms..........

Mercury is the exception to this, with a few months of improvement, several

months of worsening and then slow improvements over many months "

We need to remember that point and remind people about it often so they are

prepared for the dip.

Dean.

November 1, 2006

From reading your post I would suggest probiotics. You are taking an

antibiotic which you need but it will kill the good biotics your gut

needs. Also, you need a lot of vitamin C post removal. It helps with

the side effects of your body dumping mercury. So you may need up to

6,000mg a day. 2000mg a day is not very much, so more is worth a try.

I can say I think most of us got sicker afterwards and had to begin

chelation and supplements to feel better. I am not sure what's in

your temporary crown, but it needs to be amalgam free before you can

begin dmsa.

I also began adrenal cortex extract. When the body starts dumping

mercury it really hits your adrenal function. This helped me

trememdously.

You can purchase dmsa in 25mg capsules from Vitamin Research

Products. DMSA will help. Just make sure to follow the supplements

needed during chelation. And probiotics and yeast control.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> For the past few years I've been suffering from depression,

anxiety,

> fatigue and decreasing memory. I also had 23 mercury amalgam

fillings.

>

> I had my fillings completely removed by a Huggins trained dentist 3

> weeks ago.

>

November 1, 2006