RE: Re: whine whine - delete if you wish

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In a message dated 10/19/01 2:14:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

LegWatch@... writes:

> OMG.......talk about the light coming on. I had terrible " growning pains "

> as a child. I can remember complaining everyday about my

> arm/legs/breasts/feet/back....etc... hurting. The Dr. always told me it

>

Yep, me too. It's funny how many FMS sufferers also had growing pains as

well, isn't it? Kinda makes me wonder if the pain had nothing to do with

growing...

Diane

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When my pain is that severe I get in a hot bathtub of water and

soak for a while. I've had to do this during the night several

times.

masters_girl_@... wrote:

> the pains that i get are like someone is in the center of my leg, and

> punching/kicking to get out. at least that is how i have always

> discribed it. no electrical current feelings. as a kid, my doc

> always said that it was just growing pains - sorry doc, i stopped

> growing years ago.

Soft Hugs

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When my pain is that severe I get in a hot bathtub of water and

soak for a while. I've had to do this during the night several

times.

masters_girl_@... wrote:

> the pains that i get are like someone is in the center of my leg, and

> punching/kicking to get out. at least that is how i have always

> discribed it. no electrical current feelings. as a kid, my doc

> always said that it was just growing pains - sorry doc, i stopped

> growing years ago.

Soft Hugs

Aria

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When my pain is that severe I get in a hot bathtub of water and

soak for a while. I've had to do this during the night several

times.

masters_girl_@... wrote:

> the pains that i get are like someone is in the center of my leg, and

> punching/kicking to get out. at least that is how i have always

> discribed it. no electrical current feelings. as a kid, my doc

> always said that it was just growing pains - sorry doc, i stopped

> growing years ago.

Soft Hugs

Aria

Roanoke, Indiana

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OMG.......talk about the light coming on. I had terrible " growning pains "

as a child. I can remember complaining everyday about my

arm/legs/breasts/feet/back....etc... hurting. The Dr. always told me it

was growing pains. I have the same kind of pain in my legs. It was so bad

last night. I just sort of thrash around trying to find a spot for them

that doesn't hurt. Nothing works.

I sleep with more than a dozen pillows, spent $1200.00 on a new

bed.......nothing works.

Annette

-----Original Message-----

From: masters_girl_@...

the pains that i get are like someone is in the center of my leg, and

punching/kicking to get out. at least that is how i have always

discribed it. no electrical current feelings. as a kid, my doc

always said that it was just growing pains - sorry doc, i stopped

growing years ago.

[Guest guest]

Annette, and all. Have you even considered Restless Leg Syndrome?

I suffer with that and have had it since as long as I can remember!!!

Some nights, there is just NO PLACE to put my legs & feet. (Not to mention my

arms and hands!!!)

Tina

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I've heard about it but never checked into really. I guess I should take

some time to do just that. Thanks for the advise.

Annette

-----Original Message-----

From: Tina the Bird Princess

Annette, and all. Have you even considered Restless Leg Syndrome?

I suffer with that and have had it since as long as I can remember!!!

Some nights, there is just NO PLACE to put my legs & feet. (Not to

mention my arms and hands!!!)

Tina

[Guest guest]

I've heard about it but never checked into really. I guess I should take

some time to do just that. Thanks for the advise.

Annette

-----Original Message-----

From: Tina the Bird Princess

Annette, and all. Have you even considered Restless Leg Syndrome?

I suffer with that and have had it since as long as I can remember!!!

Some nights, there is just NO PLACE to put my legs & feet. (Not to

mention my arms and hands!!!)

Tina

[Guest guest]

Anne, How bad is your Restless Leg Syndrome? I have it in one foot and one

hand...both on my right side. If the fibro doesn't keep me up then the RLS

does!!!

Tina

[Guest guest]

Anne, How bad is your Restless Leg Syndrome? I have it in one foot and one

hand...both on my right side. If the fibro doesn't keep me up then the RLS

does!!!

Tina

[Guest guest]

Anne, How bad is your Restless Leg Syndrome? I have it in one foot and one

hand...both on my right side. If the fibro doesn't keep me up then the RLS

does!!!

Tina

[Guest guest]

Wow, this really hits a nerve (oooo, bad pun) I can remember crying into my

pillow every night when I was little because of pains, mostly leg pains. I

never wanted my mother to hear because she would get upset, the doctor said

the same thing, " growing pains " , so she felt helpless. My sister, 16 years

my senior, would often climb into bed with me for comfort, and she said

even after I was asleep I would moan, and wake screaming from my

dreams. It makes me wonder, since this seems to be so common, if the

groundwork for FMS is there all along? I always assumed my aches and pains

were just part of the human condition, how can you know otherwise if you

haven't experienced it? I got curious so I typed " growing pains and

fibromyalgia " into my favorite search engine, http://www.google.com/, (I

have no affiliation with them, but if ever you are searching , this one

always comes up with the most relevant hits) and came up with this:

http://www.mwilliamson.com/fm101.htm (Most of the other links used " growing

pains " as a euphemism.) Interesting. I wonder how many other similarities

there are?

I can also include myself into the hair loss thread, I always assumed it

was just a family thing- (male pattern baldness can also be evident in

woman to a lesser degree, and my pops had a chrome dome!) but maybe FMS has

a connection there too. Alls I know is that I can see a lot more scalp

than I care too, and every time I wash my hair there seems to be a major

hairball in the tub or sink.

While I am writing, I was wondering if anyone else takes any hydrocodone

(Tylox, Vicodin, Lorcet, Lortab, etc) combo for pain? Just curious because

in most of the profiles I've read, they specifically say it is for short

term (7-10 day) use, while most of the oxy's will warn of physical

dependence with no mention of short term use. Any one know why?

Gentle hugs,

Char in CT

>OMG.......talk about the light coming on. I had terrible " growning pains "

>as a child. I can remember complaining everyday about my

>arm/legs/breasts/feet/back....etc... hurting. The Dr. always told me it

>was growing pains

[Guest guest]

Wow, this really hits a nerve (oooo, bad pun) I can remember crying into my

pillow every night when I was little because of pains, mostly leg pains. I

never wanted my mother to hear because she would get upset, the doctor said

the same thing, " growing pains " , so she felt helpless. My sister, 16 years

my senior, would often climb into bed with me for comfort, and she said

even after I was asleep I would moan, and wake screaming from my

dreams. It makes me wonder, since this seems to be so common, if the

groundwork for FMS is there all along? I always assumed my aches and pains

were just part of the human condition, how can you know otherwise if you

haven't experienced it? I got curious so I typed " growing pains and

fibromyalgia " into my favorite search engine, http://www.google.com/, (I

have no affiliation with them, but if ever you are searching , this one

always comes up with the most relevant hits) and came up with this:

http://www.mwilliamson.com/fm101.htm (Most of the other links used " growing

pains " as a euphemism.) Interesting. I wonder how many other similarities

there are?

I can also include myself into the hair loss thread, I always assumed it

was just a family thing- (male pattern baldness can also be evident in

woman to a lesser degree, and my pops had a chrome dome!) but maybe FMS has

a connection there too. Alls I know is that I can see a lot more scalp

than I care too, and every time I wash my hair there seems to be a major

hairball in the tub or sink.

While I am writing, I was wondering if anyone else takes any hydrocodone

(Tylox, Vicodin, Lorcet, Lortab, etc) combo for pain? Just curious because

in most of the profiles I've read, they specifically say it is for short

term (7-10 day) use, while most of the oxy's will warn of physical

dependence with no mention of short term use. Any one know why?

Gentle hugs,

Char in CT

>OMG.......talk about the light coming on. I had terrible " growning pains "

>as a child. I can remember complaining everyday about my

>arm/legs/breasts/feet/back....etc... hurting. The Dr. always told me it

>was growing pains

[Guest guest]

I don't know if anyone has answered this because my mail is so screwed up,

but ............the hydrocodone products you mention contain tylenol, the

lortab I believe contains asprin. Long term use of tylenol will damage your

liver. The oxy's are usually for people who need pain medication for a

*long* period of time because they do not contain tylenol.

Rhonda

RE: Re: whine whine - delete if you wish

> While I am writing, I was wondering if anyone else takes any hydrocodone

> (Tylox, Vicodin, Lorcet, Lortab, etc) combo for pain? Just curious

because

> in most of the profiles I've read, they specifically say it is for short

> term (7-10 day) use, while most of the oxy's will warn of physical

> dependence with no mention of short term use. Any one know why?

>

> Gentle hugs,

> Char in CT

[Guest guest]

I don't know if anyone has answered this because my mail is so screwed up,

but ............the hydrocodone products you mention contain tylenol, the

lortab I believe contains asprin. Long term use of tylenol will damage your

liver. The oxy's are usually for people who need pain medication for a

*long* period of time because they do not contain tylenol.

Rhonda

RE: Re: whine whine - delete if you wish

> While I am writing, I was wondering if anyone else takes any hydrocodone

> (Tylox, Vicodin, Lorcet, Lortab, etc) combo for pain? Just curious

because

> in most of the profiles I've read, they specifically say it is for short

> term (7-10 day) use, while most of the oxy's will warn of physical

> dependence with no mention of short term use. Any one know why?

>

> Gentle hugs,

> Char in CT

[Guest guest]

Thanks hon, but I guess I didn't make myself too clear...what I meant was

the oxycodone combos and the hydrocodone combos, such as Percocet or

Vicodin, etc. The web site I was reading had all the Vicodin type drugs

(hydrocodone+) stating it was for short term pain relief and not to take

for more than 7-10 days, may cause physical dependence, blah blah

blah. With the Percocet type drugs (oxycodone+) there was only the

warning that they may cause physical dependence. I thought it was odd

because a lot of people with chronic pain take the hydrocodone based drugs.

I was just curious why the website I read (and the manufacturer also if I

remember correctly) designated it for short term use if so many people are

using it long term. Since I am taking it now, I would really like to know,

and know why the warning.

I am currently using vicoprofen, which uses ibuprofen as the other

analgesic, instead of tylenol. I am going to have to switch though to one

with tylenol or aspirin, unfortunately, because my insurance considers it

an unnecessary expense with the ibuprofen so the co-pay is almost as

expensive as it would be out of pocket, plus they will only authorize 50

tablets per month when the Dr. wrote out for 120. I wanted the ibuprofen

because it is the best thing I've found for arthritis, and also to avoid

the tylenol,but they are basically making the decision for me because

Vicoprofen costs more. I think it really stinks that insurance companies

can practice medicine!

Char in CT

>I don't know if anyone has answered this because my mail is so screwed up,

>but ............the hydrocodone products you mention contain tylenol, the

>lortab I believe contains asprin. Long term use of tylenol will damage your

>liver. The oxy's are usually for people who need pain medication for a

>*long* period of time because they do not contain tylenol.

[Guest guest]

Thanks hon, but I guess I didn't make myself too clear...what I meant was

the oxycodone combos and the hydrocodone combos, such as Percocet or

Vicodin, etc. The web site I was reading had all the Vicodin type drugs

(hydrocodone+) stating it was for short term pain relief and not to take

for more than 7-10 days, may cause physical dependence, blah blah

blah. With the Percocet type drugs (oxycodone+) there was only the

warning that they may cause physical dependence. I thought it was odd

because a lot of people with chronic pain take the hydrocodone based drugs.

I was just curious why the website I read (and the manufacturer also if I

remember correctly) designated it for short term use if so many people are

using it long term. Since I am taking it now, I would really like to know,

and know why the warning.

I am currently using vicoprofen, which uses ibuprofen as the other

analgesic, instead of tylenol. I am going to have to switch though to one

with tylenol or aspirin, unfortunately, because my insurance considers it

an unnecessary expense with the ibuprofen so the co-pay is almost as

expensive as it would be out of pocket, plus they will only authorize 50

tablets per month when the Dr. wrote out for 120. I wanted the ibuprofen

because it is the best thing I've found for arthritis, and also to avoid

the tylenol,but they are basically making the decision for me because

Vicoprofen costs more. I think it really stinks that insurance companies

can practice medicine!

Char in CT

>I don't know if anyone has answered this because my mail is so screwed up,

>but ............the hydrocodone products you mention contain tylenol, the

>lortab I believe contains asprin. Long term use of tylenol will damage your

>liver. The oxy's are usually for people who need pain medication for a

>*long* period of time because they do not contain tylenol.

[Guest guest]

Thanks hon, but I guess I didn't make myself too clear...what I meant was

the oxycodone combos and the hydrocodone combos, such as Percocet or

Vicodin, etc. The web site I was reading had all the Vicodin type drugs

(hydrocodone+) stating it was for short term pain relief and not to take

for more than 7-10 days, may cause physical dependence, blah blah

blah. With the Percocet type drugs (oxycodone+) there was only the

warning that they may cause physical dependence. I thought it was odd

because a lot of people with chronic pain take the hydrocodone based drugs.

I was just curious why the website I read (and the manufacturer also if I

remember correctly) designated it for short term use if so many people are

using it long term. Since I am taking it now, I would really like to know,

and know why the warning.

I am currently using vicoprofen, which uses ibuprofen as the other

analgesic, instead of tylenol. I am going to have to switch though to one

with tylenol or aspirin, unfortunately, because my insurance considers it

an unnecessary expense with the ibuprofen so the co-pay is almost as

expensive as it would be out of pocket, plus they will only authorize 50

tablets per month when the Dr. wrote out for 120. I wanted the ibuprofen

because it is the best thing I've found for arthritis, and also to avoid

the tylenol,but they are basically making the decision for me because

Vicoprofen costs more. I think it really stinks that insurance companies

can practice medicine!

Char in CT

>I don't know if anyone has answered this because my mail is so screwed up,

>but ............the hydrocodone products you mention contain tylenol, the

>lortab I believe contains asprin. Long term use of tylenol will damage your

>liver. The oxy's are usually for people who need pain medication for a

>*long* period of time because they do not contain tylenol.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/01 7:47:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

chargc@... writes:

> I got curious so I typed " growing pains and

> fibromyalgia " into my favorite search engine, http://www.google.com/, (I

> have no affiliation with them, but if ever you are searching , this one

> always comes up with the most relevant hits) and came up with this:

> http://www.mwilliamson.com/fm101.htm (Most of the other links used " growing

> pains " as a euphemism.)

This site belongs to Miryam on, the writer of a book I mentioned in

an email the other day. The book is called The Fibromyalgia Relief Book, and

I highly recommend it. It's full of small and large suggestions about how to

live with FMS. She is a FMS sufferer herself, as many of the fibro book

authors are, so there's total authenticity in her writing. Based on the

section about minerals, I'm starting to take magnesium along with my calcium,

and I'm also going to try to find something called DLPA, which is supposed to

provide pain relief.

Cheers,

Diane

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/01 7:47:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

chargc@... writes:

> I got curious so I typed " growing pains and

> fibromyalgia " into my favorite search engine, http://www.google.com/, (I

> have no affiliation with them, but if ever you are searching , this one

> always comes up with the most relevant hits) and came up with this:

> http://www.mwilliamson.com/fm101.htm (Most of the other links used " growing

> pains " as a euphemism.)

This site belongs to Miryam on, the writer of a book I mentioned in

an email the other day. The book is called The Fibromyalgia Relief Book, and

I highly recommend it. It's full of small and large suggestions about how to

live with FMS. She is a FMS sufferer herself, as many of the fibro book

authors are, so there's total authenticity in her writing. Based on the

section about minerals, I'm starting to take magnesium along with my calcium,

and I'm also going to try to find something called DLPA, which is supposed to

provide pain relief.

Cheers,

Diane

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/01 7:47:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

chargc@... writes:

> I got curious so I typed " growing pains and

> fibromyalgia " into my favorite search engine, http://www.google.com/, (I

> have no affiliation with them, but if ever you are searching , this one

> always comes up with the most relevant hits) and came up with this:

> http://www.mwilliamson.com/fm101.htm (Most of the other links used " growing

> pains " as a euphemism.)

This site belongs to Miryam on, the writer of a book I mentioned in

an email the other day. The book is called The Fibromyalgia Relief Book, and

I highly recommend it. It's full of small and large suggestions about how to

live with FMS. She is a FMS sufferer herself, as many of the fibro book

authors are, so there's total authenticity in her writing. Based on the

section about minerals, I'm starting to take magnesium along with my calcium,

and I'm also going to try to find something called DLPA, which is supposed to

provide pain relief.

Cheers,

Diane

[Guest guest]

Anne, thanks for the info on the Flexeril. My dr gave me Mirapex (a Parkinson

medication) to take when it's really bad. Usually helps in about 20 minutes.

Only problem is it exacerbates the fibro fog for the whole day.

I sure can't explain these two 'diseases' to very many people. They start to

get this glazed look in their eyes and start looking for the nearest exit! LOL

Most people think the RLS and the Fibro are 'all in your head' diseases. Like

today, I was pulling dead things in the garden and using the pruners. I have to

type this one handed now since the pain is so extreme. Hubby WILL NOT

acknowledge that I have Fibro...must be muscles I just haven't used before.

Yea, right!

Sorry, I got off the topic. Flexeril....does it help the Fibro at all?

Tina

Tina

[Guest guest]

Anne, thanks for the info on the Flexeril. My dr gave me Mirapex (a Parkinson

medication) to take when it's really bad. Usually helps in about 20 minutes.

Only problem is it exacerbates the fibro fog for the whole day.

I sure can't explain these two 'diseases' to very many people. They start to

get this glazed look in their eyes and start looking for the nearest exit! LOL

Most people think the RLS and the Fibro are 'all in your head' diseases. Like

today, I was pulling dead things in the garden and using the pruners. I have to

type this one handed now since the pain is so extreme. Hubby WILL NOT

acknowledge that I have Fibro...must be muscles I just haven't used before.

Yea, right!

Sorry, I got off the topic. Flexeril....does it help the Fibro at all?

Tina

Tina

[Guest guest]

I sure can't explain these two 'diseases' to very many people. They start to

get this glazed look in their eyes and start looking for the nearest exit!

LOL

Or they say " but you don't look sick. " As I have said before " what does sick

look like. "

Take care,

Irene

[Guest guest]

I sure can't explain these two 'diseases' to very many people. They start to

get this glazed look in their eyes and start looking for the nearest exit!

LOL

Or they say " but you don't look sick. " As I have said before " what does sick

look like. "

Take care,

Irene