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Hi and thanks for all the posts on treating adrenals/Cortef/Isocort.

I've been trying Florinef added to the Cortef without much luck. I've

even gone up to 20mg with Cortef and am still tired all the time. Seems

like the Florinef makes me *more* tired!

I noticed someone said people usually either take Cortef or Isocort but

don't mix them and I'm wondering if anyone had switched from Cortef to

Isocort and had good results.

Something has to get me going. I feel like I'm watching my life drift

by...

Thanks,

:^)

Alessa

PS Thanks too for the posts on improvements. It's so nice to hear the progress.

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the florinef supports your adrenals in other ways than cortef

(regulates sodium / potassium, frequent urination) and overall you

should be feeling better. If you are feeling more tired it's possible

that you're suppressing your adrenal function by more than you are

replacing. There is a view that for real adrenal insufficiency you

need to be taking a replacement dose of 25-30mg cortef a day, maybe

more. Are you taking thyroid meds aswell? These will 'use up' the

cortef in order to function properly, leaving you with less to

function. You will get more info on these forums.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/adrenalfatigue/

Isocort is much weaker than cortef, and I wouldn't recommend

switching to it if you are still tired on cortef.

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , Alessa

wrote:

>

> Hi and thanks for all the posts on treating adrenals/Cortef/Isocort.

> I've been trying Florinef added to the Cortef without much luck.

I've

> even gone up to 20mg with Cortef and am still tired all the time.

Seems

> like the Florinef makes me *more* tired!

> I noticed someone said people usually either take Cortef or Isocort

but

> don't mix them and I'm wondering if anyone had switched from Cortef

to

> Isocort and had good results.

> Something has to get me going. I feel like I'm watching my life

drift

> by...

> Thanks,

> :^)

> Alessa

>

> PS Thanks too for the posts on improvements. It's so nice to hear

the progress.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I had a urine test which showed low aldosterone - the hormone that

florinef replaces. I had frequent and high-volume urination, couldn't

stand for more than a few minutes, low blood pressure, nearly fainted

on standing up. I wouldn't take the decision to take it myself - you

should have proper testing for cortisol and aldosterone before you go

on these drugs.

Nicola

Wouldn't you be better of taking Isocort considering it contains cortisol and

aldosterone?

But if it has a standardized dose of Isocort of 2.5mg cortisol, how much

aldosterone does it contain?

Moreover can anybody explain the difference between a 'desiccated gland' and a

'glandular?

I still don't get it.

We are unable to get desiccated glands like Armour and Isocort in South Africa.

But we can get hold of 'glandular like Thyroid glandular and Adrenal glandular,

although the are called Cytotrophins. They contain 200mg of Adrenal and Thyroid

'Substance' USP, bovine, 200mg and are made by a company called Enzyme Process

www.enzymeprocess.com)

If anybody understands the difference I would be grateful to be informed.

I sort of get the impression that the 'desiccated glands' contain the hormones,

while the glandular only contain the cellular structure and peptides.

But I really don't get it.

Thanks,

Dean

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I had a urine test which showed low aldosterone - the hormone that

florinef replaces. I had frequent and high-volume urination, couldn't

stand for more than a few minutes, low blood pressure, nearly fainted

on standing up. I wouldn't take the decision to take it myself - you

should have proper testing for cortisol and aldosterone before you go

on these drugs.

Nicola

Wouldn't you be better of taking Isocort considering it contains cortisol and

aldosterone?

But if it has a standardized dose of Isocort of 2.5mg cortisol, how much

aldosterone does it contain?

Moreover can anybody explain the difference between a 'desiccated gland' and a

'glandular?

I still don't get it.

We are unable to get desiccated glands like Armour and Isocort in South Africa.

But we can get hold of 'glandular like Thyroid glandular and Adrenal glandular,

although the are called Cytotrophins. They contain 200mg of Adrenal and Thyroid

'Substance' USP, bovine, 200mg and are made by a company called Enzyme Process

www.enzymeprocess.com)

If anybody understands the difference I would be grateful to be informed.

I sort of get the impression that the 'desiccated glands' contain the hormones,

while the glandular only contain the cellular structure and peptides.

But I really don't get it.

Thanks,

Dean

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Thanks for the infor Nicola. I don't think I had ever heard of what testing and

symptoms before. And no, I would not try to take it on my own.------Jackie T.

Re: Treating adrenals

>

>

> Alessa

>

> the florinef supports your adrenals in other ways than cortef

> (regulates sodium / potassium, frequent urination) and overall

you

> should be feeling better. If you are feeling more tired it's

possible

> that you're suppressing your adrenal function by more than you

are

> replacing. There is a view that for real adrenal insufficiency

you

> need to be taking a replacement dose of 25-30mg cortef a day,

maybe

> more. Are you taking thyroid meds aswell? These will 'use up' the

> cortef in order to function properly, leaving you with less to

> function. You will get more info on these forums.

>

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/adrenalfatigue/

>

> Isocort is much weaker than cortef, and I wouldn't recommend

> switching to it if you are still tired on cortef.

>

> Nicola

>

> -- In frequent-dose-chelation , Alessa

<foralessa@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi and thanks for all the posts on treating

adrenals/Cortef/Isocort.

> > I've been trying Florinef added to the Cortef without much

luck.

> I've

> > even gone up to 20mg with Cortef and am still tired all the

time.

> Seems

> > like the Florinef makes me *more* tired!

> > I noticed someone said people usually either take Cortef or

Isocort

> but

> > don't mix them and I'm wondering if anyone had switched from

Cortef

> to

> > Isocort and had good results.

> > Something has to get me going. I feel like I'm watching my life

> drift

> > by...

> > Thanks,

> > :^)

> > Alessa

> >

> > PS Thanks too for the posts on improvements. It's so nice to

hear

> the progress.

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Thanks for the infor Nicola. I don't think I had ever heard of what testing and

symptoms before. And no, I would not try to take it on my own.------Jackie T.

Re: Treating adrenals

>

>

> Alessa

>

> the florinef supports your adrenals in other ways than cortef

> (regulates sodium / potassium, frequent urination) and overall

you

> should be feeling better. If you are feeling more tired it's

possible

> that you're suppressing your adrenal function by more than you

are

> replacing. There is a view that for real adrenal insufficiency

you

> need to be taking a replacement dose of 25-30mg cortef a day,

maybe

> more. Are you taking thyroid meds aswell? These will 'use up' the

> cortef in order to function properly, leaving you with less to

> function. You will get more info on these forums.

>

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/adrenalfatigue/

>

> Isocort is much weaker than cortef, and I wouldn't recommend

> switching to it if you are still tired on cortef.

>

> Nicola

>

> -- In frequent-dose-chelation , Alessa

<foralessa@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi and thanks for all the posts on treating

adrenals/Cortef/Isocort.

> > I've been trying Florinef added to the Cortef without much

luck.

> I've

> > even gone up to 20mg with Cortef and am still tired all the

time.

> Seems

> > like the Florinef makes me *more* tired!

> > I noticed someone said people usually either take Cortef or

Isocort

> but

> > don't mix them and I'm wondering if anyone had switched from

Cortef

> to

> > Isocort and had good results.

> > Something has to get me going. I feel like I'm watching my life

> drift

> > by...

> > Thanks,

> > :^)

> > Alessa

> >

> > PS Thanks too for the posts on improvements. It's so nice to

hear

> the progress.

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Dean

Isocort contains 2.5mg of cortisol per pellet, but does NOT contain

aldosterone - these are the ingredients

Ingredients:Freeze dried Adrenal Cortex (Soluble Fractionation),

Echinacea Exrtact, Prunus spp. and Lomatium Dissectum Root Isolate

(Kreb Concentrate-2%) in a pellett base of Lactose and Lactase.

Can't help you on the glandular question, I'm afraid.

Nicola

>

> Wouldn't you be better of taking Isocort considering it contains

cortisol and aldosterone?

> But if it has a standardized dose of Isocort of 2.5mg cortisol, how

much aldosterone does it contain?

>

> Moreover can anybody explain the difference between a 'desiccated

gland' and a 'glandular?

> I still don't get it.

> We are unable to get desiccated glands like Armour and Isocort in

South Africa.

> But we can get hold of 'glandular like Thyroid glandular and

Adrenal glandular, although the are called Cytotrophins. They contain

200mg of Adrenal and Thyroid 'Substance' USP, bovine, 200mg and are

made by a company called Enzyme Process www.enzymeprocess.com)

>

> If anybody understands the difference I would be grateful to be

informed.

> I sort of get the impression that the 'desiccated glands' contain

the hormones, while the glandular only contain the cellular structure

and peptides.

> But I really don't get it.

>

> Thanks,

> Dean

>

>

>

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Dean

Isocort contains 2.5mg of cortisol per pellet, but does NOT contain

aldosterone - these are the ingredients

Ingredients:Freeze dried Adrenal Cortex (Soluble Fractionation),

Echinacea Exrtact, Prunus spp. and Lomatium Dissectum Root Isolate

(Kreb Concentrate-2%) in a pellett base of Lactose and Lactase.

Can't help you on the glandular question, I'm afraid.

Nicola

>

> Wouldn't you be better of taking Isocort considering it contains

cortisol and aldosterone?

> But if it has a standardized dose of Isocort of 2.5mg cortisol, how

much aldosterone does it contain?

>

> Moreover can anybody explain the difference between a 'desiccated

gland' and a 'glandular?

> I still don't get it.

> We are unable to get desiccated glands like Armour and Isocort in

South Africa.

> But we can get hold of 'glandular like Thyroid glandular and

Adrenal glandular, although the are called Cytotrophins. They contain

200mg of Adrenal and Thyroid 'Substance' USP, bovine, 200mg and are

made by a company called Enzyme Process www.enzymeprocess.com)

>

> If anybody understands the difference I would be grateful to be

informed.

> I sort of get the impression that the 'desiccated glands' contain

the hormones, while the glandular only contain the cellular structure

and peptides.

> But I really don't get it.

>

> Thanks,

> Dean

>

>

>

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