Re: Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal

October 13, 2001

Yes, I've heard the same thing, but I've never found any real proof. It does

all sound the same. My brother-in-law is the same way. He was in the Gulf

War and was a very active, healthy man. He is still active only because he

has no other choice, but he is in constant pain. Shay

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October 13, 2001

Yes, I've heard the same thing, but I've never found any real proof. It does

all sound the same. My brother-in-law is the same way. He was in the Gulf

War and was a very active, healthy man. He is still active only because he

has no other choice, but he is in constant pain. Shay

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

October 13, 2001

Yes, I've heard the same thing, but I've never found any real proof. It does

all sound the same. My brother-in-law is the same way. He was in the Gulf

War and was a very active, healthy man. He is still active only because he

has no other choice, but he is in constant pain. Shay

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

October 13, 2001

Are you saying that FM and Gulf War Syndome are related? I'd like to find

out more about this as a very good friend is suffering from GWS. It's

eating him up because he was a very active, healthy man and now he can

barely function.

>It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's

>disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome..

October 13, 2001

Are you saying that FM and Gulf War Syndome are related? I'd like to find

out more about this as a very good friend is suffering from GWS. It's

eating him up because he was a very active, healthy man and now he can

barely function.

>It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's

>disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome..

October 13, 2001

Are you saying that FM and Gulf War Syndome are related? I'd like to find

out more about this as a very good friend is suffering from GWS. It's

eating him up because he was a very active, healthy man and now he can

barely function.

>It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's

>disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome..

October 13, 2001

Hi Krystal

I was puzzled to read your Email where you say that

Fibor is not supposed to be progressive. I have had it

all my life and it has progressed year after year in

that I am more disabled than I was a year ago. Each

year something else developes and other things get

worse. So I can only say that it is progressive. I

hope this helps in your understanding of the

condition.

God bless

Lorraine UK

--- Krystal wrote:

<HR>

<tt>

I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms

have spread into

areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to

be

progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin

itches

constantly although I have no rash and it's not an

allergy.

Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like

snakes are

crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many

things...

& gt; Hi! & nbsp; Welcome. & nbsp; I'm new here too. & nbsp;

What makes them think that you

have MS?

& gt; Just curious because I was told (3/99) that I

have MS. & nbsp; & nbsp; Monday

(10/8), I

& gt; was told to stop taking the MS medication. & nbsp;

The doctor that I am

seeing now

& gt; is 99.9% sure that I don't have it! & nbsp; & nbsp;

I've got the nerve damage

(which

& gt; causes numbness, which is what they thought was

an MS attack),

arthritis (in

& gt; the spine and god only knows where else), TMJ

(from an auto

accident), who

& gt; knows...maybe even fibro (if I have it, they

think it's from the

auto

& gt; accident too). & nbsp; & nbsp; What are they saying

is MS related?

& gt;

& gt; Rhonda

& gt;

& gt; Hi everyone !

& gt;

& gt; & gt; I just joined the membershp of this group. I

became ill after a

& gt; & gt; Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years

to get & nbsp; diagnosed.

Severe

& gt; & gt; Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable

bowels syndome, temporal

& gt; & gt; madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain

syndome. I went thorugh

hell

& gt; & gt; for those 9 years...was diagnosed with

depression and Munchausen

& gt; & gt; syndome..even though the shrink I was going

to said it was

physical

& gt; & gt; and not mental. But as I had no

insurance..he checked me into the

& gt; & gt; psych ward for a week. He knew that the

hospital HAD to run

physical

& gt; & gt; tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I

finally found who had

done

& gt; & gt; her internship with a rheumatologist who's

specialty was Fibro..I

& gt; & gt; finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed

up disease for 11

years

& gt; & gt; now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting

me in ways they have

not

& gt; & gt; seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic

here soon. I'm not in

the

& gt; & gt; mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of

painful testing. They

are

& gt; & gt; thinking now that I have MS as well as

Fibro. sigh..all from a

& gt; & gt; freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I

had that shot..they

told

& gt; & gt; me it would not go through breast milk..they

lied. My daughter

also

& gt; & gt; has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11.

I have a lot of info

& gt; & gt; that you all might not be aware of....but

for today I must keep

this

& gt; & gt; short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal

& gt; & gt;

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October 13, 2001

Hi Krystal

I was puzzled to read your Email where you say that

Fibor is not supposed to be progressive. I have had it

all my life and it has progressed year after year in

that I am more disabled than I was a year ago. Each

year something else developes and other things get

worse. So I can only say that it is progressive. I

hope this helps in your understanding of the

condition.

God bless

Lorraine UK

--- Krystal wrote:

<HR>

<tt>

I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms

have spread into

areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to

be

progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin

itches

constantly although I have no rash and it's not an

allergy.

Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like

snakes are

crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many

things...

& gt; Hi! & nbsp; Welcome. & nbsp; I'm new here too. & nbsp;

What makes them think that you

have MS?

& gt; Just curious because I was told (3/99) that I

have MS. & nbsp; & nbsp; Monday

(10/8), I

& gt; was told to stop taking the MS medication. & nbsp;

The doctor that I am

seeing now

& gt; is 99.9% sure that I don't have it! & nbsp; & nbsp;

I've got the nerve damage

(which

& gt; causes numbness, which is what they thought was

an MS attack),

arthritis (in

& gt; the spine and god only knows where else), TMJ

(from an auto

accident), who

& gt; knows...maybe even fibro (if I have it, they

think it's from the

auto

& gt; accident too). & nbsp; & nbsp; What are they saying

is MS related?

& gt;

& gt; Rhonda

& gt;

& gt; Hi everyone !

& gt;

& gt; & gt; I just joined the membershp of this group. I

became ill after a

& gt; & gt; Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years

to get & nbsp; diagnosed.

Severe

& gt; & gt; Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable

bowels syndome, temporal

& gt; & gt; madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain

syndome. I went thorugh

hell

& gt; & gt; for those 9 years...was diagnosed with

depression and Munchausen

& gt; & gt; syndome..even though the shrink I was going

to said it was

physical

& gt; & gt; and not mental. But as I had no

insurance..he checked me into the

& gt; & gt; psych ward for a week. He knew that the

hospital HAD to run

physical

& gt; & gt; tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I

finally found who had

done

& gt; & gt; her internship with a rheumatologist who's

specialty was Fibro..I

& gt; & gt; finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed

up disease for 11

years

& gt; & gt; now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting

me in ways they have

not

& gt; & gt; seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic

here soon. I'm not in

the

& gt; & gt; mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of

painful testing. They

are

& gt; & gt; thinking now that I have MS as well as

Fibro. sigh..all from a

& gt; & gt; freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I

had that shot..they

told

& gt; & gt; me it would not go through breast milk..they

lied. My daughter

also

& gt; & gt; has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11.

I have a lot of info

& gt; & gt; that you all might not be aware of....but

for today I must keep

this

& gt; & gt; short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal

& gt; & gt;

</tt>

<td align=center><font size= " -1 "

color=#003399>

October 13, 2001

Hi Krystal

I was puzzled to read your Email where you say that

Fibor is not supposed to be progressive. I have had it

all my life and it has progressed year after year in

that I am more disabled than I was a year ago. Each

year something else developes and other things get

worse. So I can only say that it is progressive. I

hope this helps in your understanding of the

condition.

God bless

Lorraine UK

--- Krystal wrote:

<HR>

<tt>

I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms

have spread into

areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to

be

progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin

itches

constantly although I have no rash and it's not an

allergy.

Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like

snakes are

crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many

things...

& gt; Hi! & nbsp; Welcome. & nbsp; I'm new here too. & nbsp;

What makes them think that you

have MS?

& gt; Just curious because I was told (3/99) that I

have MS. & nbsp; & nbsp; Monday

(10/8), I

& gt; was told to stop taking the MS medication. & nbsp;

The doctor that I am

seeing now

& gt; is 99.9% sure that I don't have it! & nbsp; & nbsp;

I've got the nerve damage

(which

& gt; causes numbness, which is what they thought was

an MS attack),

arthritis (in

& gt; the spine and god only knows where else), TMJ

(from an auto

accident), who

& gt; knows...maybe even fibro (if I have it, they

think it's from the

auto

& gt; accident too). & nbsp; & nbsp; What are they saying

is MS related?

& gt;

& gt; Rhonda

& gt;

& gt; Hi everyone !

& gt;

& gt; & gt; I just joined the membershp of this group. I

became ill after a

& gt; & gt; Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years

to get & nbsp; diagnosed.

Severe

& gt; & gt; Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable

bowels syndome, temporal

& gt; & gt; madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain

syndome. I went thorugh

hell

& gt; & gt; for those 9 years...was diagnosed with

depression and Munchausen

& gt; & gt; syndome..even though the shrink I was going

to said it was

physical

& gt; & gt; and not mental. But as I had no

insurance..he checked me into the

& gt; & gt; psych ward for a week. He knew that the

hospital HAD to run

physical

& gt; & gt; tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I

finally found who had

done

& gt; & gt; her internship with a rheumatologist who's

specialty was Fibro..I

& gt; & gt; finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed

up disease for 11

years

& gt; & gt; now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting

me in ways they have

not

& gt; & gt; seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic

here soon. I'm not in

the

& gt; & gt; mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of

painful testing. They

are

& gt; & gt; thinking now that I have MS as well as

Fibro. sigh..all from a

& gt; & gt; freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I

had that shot..they

told

& gt; & gt; me it would not go through breast milk..they

lied. My daughter

also

& gt; & gt; has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11.

I have a lot of info

& gt; & gt; that you all might not be aware of....but

for today I must keep

this

& gt; & gt; short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal

& gt; & gt;

</tt>

<td align=center><font size= " -1 "

color=#003399>

October 14, 2001

I am not saying that you don't have fibro, I was just asking what makes them

think you have MS? I was just curious as to what is making them suspect MS.

Did they do an MRI? Or are they going to? Certain medications can make

your skin itch even though there is no rash or allergy. By electrical pain

do you mean like an electrical shock? Did they tell you which of your

symptoms they think are MS related?

Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal

> I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms have spread into

> areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to be

> progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin itches

> constantly although I have no rash and it's not an allergy.

> Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like snakes are

> crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many things...

>

October 14, 2001

I am not saying that you don't have fibro, I was just asking what makes them

think you have MS? I was just curious as to what is making them suspect MS.

Did they do an MRI? Or are they going to? Certain medications can make

your skin itch even though there is no rash or allergy. By electrical pain

do you mean like an electrical shock? Did they tell you which of your

symptoms they think are MS related?

Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal

> I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms have spread into

> areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to be

> progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin itches

> constantly although I have no rash and it's not an allergy.

> Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like snakes are

> crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many things...

>

October 14, 2001

What is the vaccine?

Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal

>

> It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's

> disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. After

> being diagnosed I did some research. Was put into contact with the T-

> laut studies about autism and vaccines. Anyone who has been

> vaccinated has the potential to become ill. The name of the illness

> depends on what part of your body it hits. The vaccines conatin an

> undetectable virus that lays dormant in a person's body until severe

> emotional or physical trauma trigger it into being active. Another

> vaccine can do this as well in later years. They were getting to the

> bottom of it when the government suddenly cut their funding. A car

> accident is only a trigger...not a cause. The majority of doctors do

> not recognize this. The virus can stay dormant your entire life..or

> it can be triggered. Why did the government cut the funding and

> threaten the doc's to keep their mouth shut ? Imagine the lawsuits !

> Every person in the world who has been vaccinated has the potential

> to become chronically ill and/or die. And they are still pushing the

> vaccines. Krystal

>

October 14, 2001