Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

[Guest guest]

Getting the meds right, the hormone levels where they need to be can make a HUGE difference. Will everything come back? Will it be as though nothing ever happened? That all depends on how hypo you were and for how long...

Our bodies are pretty amazing, they can deal with low level thyroid hormones for a long time, they adjust things and reorganize how things work to stay alive even when things are all messed up... but that can also cause some damage if it goes on for too long. No, I don't say this to scare.... Honest. But I want to make sure that you understand how important it is to jump in and do something. Keep on top of things, learn everything you can and how it all affects your body. It doesn't affect all of us the same way, we're all very individual on how our bodies react. So the more you know about the hormones and the meds and your body the better everything goes.

I base this opinion on what happened to me... over a decade of being underdosed by a string of docs that kept blaming everything on my weight and bad attitude. Well, the weight was a symptom of the hormone imbalance and the attitude had a lot to do with increasing pain levels, decreased abilities to do things, and eventually the loss of my home... I should be happy?

I ended up on crutches while under the care of bad docs. Did they look closer at my hormone levels, nope, blamed it on my weight.... yet when I switched the type of med that I was using... they had my on synthetic and I switched to an over the counter grade of natural, I got off the crutches.... as time passed and my dose increased my chronic pain went away, my sleep improved... well a ton of things improved. Things that I'd been dealing with for years and years cleared up.

My point in bringing that up is that for some it's not just the dosage (how much you are taking) but what kind.

Each of the different brands of synthetic (Synthroid, Levothroid, Levothyroxine, etc) contain slightly different fillers. Same goes for the different brands of naturals (Armour, Time-Caps Labs, Thyroid-S, etc). Some of us react differently to those fillers. And then there are some of us that do better on natural thyroid and others that do better on synthetics. And those on synthetics.... some to great with T4 only meds, some need T3 added.

I know... some of the new folks here are totally lost.... don't worry, you'll learn all the terms and such as you go, just ask questions, be it the first time you ask, or the tenth (hypo brain fog makes it easy to forget things so don't be shy about asking the same question again if you forget or just want to review, we're used to that)

One of the best things you can do for yourself is to find a doc that is open to different thyroid meds, by that I mean both naturals and synthetics so that if you aren't responding to a particular brand or type of med you have the option to try something else until your body is responding.

I could go on and on with this...I'm in a rambly mood today... hehehehe but I have over a hundred emails yet to go through and need to get going...

Ask questions, be open to learn, observe your body's reactions, find a doc that will work WITH you....

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:08:04 +0100 "" writes:

, that's amazing - for the weight to be dropping off you like that! Thank goodness you found a doctor who recognised what was happening!

My wait was gaining like that - a quarter of a stone every few weeks, despite dieting. My doctor gave me a copy of the Atkins Diet book and told me to try that:-))) I've gained four stone in a couple of years or so and it's still going up. (I was about 11 stone when it started, so four stone is quite a lot). I'm wondering about all sorts of things now that could be linked to it - history of miscarriages, heavy periods, tiredness for many years before the other symptoms started, puffy, sore dry eyes with blurry vision, yawning all the time, anxiety, depression, pain in the feet and legs, skin discolouration on my neck, and thinking as though I'm in a fog (thought I must have alzheimers), memory appalling, and, my mother was on Thyroxene before I was born (diabetic as well - is there a link there?). Is there a link to thyroid problems and angina? I think my husband just thought I'd been feeling 'lazy' for the past few years but he's very supportive now so I know he'll be pushing for me to get things sorted.

Sorry if I'm rambling here, but I'm just beginning to feel as though everything is coming together suddenly! It's quite a shock LOL! Can all the symptoms be reversed to some extent if the medication is right? Love Chris

[Guest guest]

Getting the meds right, the hormone levels where they need to be can make a HUGE difference. Will everything come back? Will it be as though nothing ever happened? That all depends on how hypo you were and for how long...

Our bodies are pretty amazing, they can deal with low level thyroid hormones for a long time, they adjust things and reorganize how things work to stay alive even when things are all messed up... but that can also cause some damage if it goes on for too long. No, I don't say this to scare.... Honest. But I want to make sure that you understand how important it is to jump in and do something. Keep on top of things, learn everything you can and how it all affects your body. It doesn't affect all of us the same way, we're all very individual on how our bodies react. So the more you know about the hormones and the meds and your body the better everything goes.

I base this opinion on what happened to me... over a decade of being underdosed by a string of docs that kept blaming everything on my weight and bad attitude. Well, the weight was a symptom of the hormone imbalance and the attitude had a lot to do with increasing pain levels, decreased abilities to do things, and eventually the loss of my home... I should be happy?

I ended up on crutches while under the care of bad docs. Did they look closer at my hormone levels, nope, blamed it on my weight.... yet when I switched the type of med that I was using... they had my on synthetic and I switched to an over the counter grade of natural, I got off the crutches.... as time passed and my dose increased my chronic pain went away, my sleep improved... well a ton of things improved. Things that I'd been dealing with for years and years cleared up.

My point in bringing that up is that for some it's not just the dosage (how much you are taking) but what kind.

Each of the different brands of synthetic (Synthroid, Levothroid, Levothyroxine, etc) contain slightly different fillers. Same goes for the different brands of naturals (Armour, Time-Caps Labs, Thyroid-S, etc). Some of us react differently to those fillers. And then there are some of us that do better on natural thyroid and others that do better on synthetics. And those on synthetics.... some to great with T4 only meds, some need T3 added.

I know... some of the new folks here are totally lost.... don't worry, you'll learn all the terms and such as you go, just ask questions, be it the first time you ask, or the tenth (hypo brain fog makes it easy to forget things so don't be shy about asking the same question again if you forget or just want to review, we're used to that)

One of the best things you can do for yourself is to find a doc that is open to different thyroid meds, by that I mean both naturals and synthetics so that if you aren't responding to a particular brand or type of med you have the option to try something else until your body is responding.

I could go on and on with this...I'm in a rambly mood today... hehehehe but I have over a hundred emails yet to go through and need to get going...

Ask questions, be open to learn, observe your body's reactions, find a doc that will work WITH you....

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:08:04 +0100 "" writes:

, that's amazing - for the weight to be dropping off you like that! Thank goodness you found a doctor who recognised what was happening!

My wait was gaining like that - a quarter of a stone every few weeks, despite dieting. My doctor gave me a copy of the Atkins Diet book and told me to try that:-))) I've gained four stone in a couple of years or so and it's still going up. (I was about 11 stone when it started, so four stone is quite a lot). I'm wondering about all sorts of things now that could be linked to it - history of miscarriages, heavy periods, tiredness for many years before the other symptoms started, puffy, sore dry eyes with blurry vision, yawning all the time, anxiety, depression, pain in the feet and legs, skin discolouration on my neck, and thinking as though I'm in a fog (thought I must have alzheimers), memory appalling, and, my mother was on Thyroxene before I was born (diabetic as well - is there a link there?). Is there a link to thyroid problems and angina? I think my husband just thought I'd been feeling 'lazy' for the past few years but he's very supportive now so I know he'll be pushing for me to get things sorted.

Sorry if I'm rambling here, but I'm just beginning to feel as though everything is coming together suddenly! It's quite a shock LOL! Can all the symptoms be reversed to some extent if the medication is right? Love Chris

[Guest guest]

BIG GRIN:-)))) The chances are I'll have forgotten I already asked the question and got an answer, so I won't even be embarrassed at asking it again LOL! But it's so lovely not to have to worry about that LOL! Thank you:-)))))

Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as the end result when medication is got right. Thanks for mentioning about the different kinds of synthetic/natural hormones - I wouldn't have thought of that. I'm so glad my husband is a bit more 'with it' than I am, so he can come to the doctors with me and ask all the questions I'm forgetting, even though I've got them written down on a piece of paper in front of me. I am so lucky to have found this group. I hope no-one minds me encouraging other people to join? There are so many in the same boat as me!

All of you who are so much better now, thank you - you are the ones leading us to get to the same place:-)))) And we in turn will be holding our hands out to others behind us.

Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Getting the meds right, the hormone levels where they need to be can make a HUGE difference. Will everything come back? Will it be as though nothing ever happened? That all depends on how hypo you were and for how long...

Our bodies are pretty amazing, they can deal with low level thyroid hormones for a long time, they adjust things and reorganize how things work to stay alive even when things are all messed up... but that can also cause some damage if it goes on for too long. No, I don't say this to scare.... Honest. But I want to make sure that you understand how important it is to jump in and do something. Keep on top of things, learn everything you can and how it all affects your body. It doesn't affect all of us the same way, we're all very individual on how our bodies react. So the more you know about the hormones and the meds and your body the better everything goes.

I base this opinion on what happened to me... over a decade of being underdosed by a string of docs that kept blaming everything on my weight and bad attitude. Well, the weight was a symptom of the hormone imbalance and the attitude had a lot to do with increasing pain levels, decreased abilities to do things, and eventually the loss of my home... I should be happy?

I ended up on crutches while under the care of bad docs. Did they look closer at my hormone levels, nope, blamed it on my weight.... yet when I switched the type of med that I was using... they had my on synthetic and I switched to an over the counter grade of natural, I got off the crutches.... as time passed and my dose increased my chronic pain went away, my sleep improved... well a ton of things improved. Things that I'd been dealing with for years and years cleared up.

My point in bringing that up is that for some it's not just the dosage (how much you are taking) but what kind.

Each of the different brands of synthetic (Synthroid, Levothroid, Levothyroxine, etc) contain slightly different fillers. Same goes for the different brands of naturals (Armour, Time-Caps Labs, Thyroid-S, etc). Some of us react differently to those fillers. And then there are some of us that do better on natural thyroid and others that do better on synthetics. And those on synthetics.... some to great with T4 only meds, some need T3 added.

I know... some of the new folks here are totally lost.... don't worry, you'll learn all the terms and such as you go, just ask questions, be it the first time you ask, or the tenth (hypo brain fog makes it easy to forget things so don't be shy about asking the same question again if you forget or just want to review, we're used to that)

One of the best things you can do for yourself is to find a doc that is open to different thyroid meds, by that I mean both naturals and synthetics so that if you aren't responding to a particular brand or type of med you have the option to try something else until your body is responding.

I could go on and on with this...I'm in a rambly mood today... hehehehe but I have over a hundred emails yet to go through and need to get going...

Ask questions, be open to learn, observe your body's reactions, find a doc that will work WITH you....

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:08:04 +0100 "" writes:

, that's amazing - for the weight to be dropping off you like that! Thank goodness you found a doctor who recognised what was happening!

My wait was gaining like that - a quarter of a stone every few weeks, despite dieting. My doctor gave me a copy of the Atkins Diet book and told me to try that:-))) I've gained four stone in a couple of years or so and it's still going up. (I was about 11 stone when it started, so four stone is quite a lot). I'm wondering about all sorts of things now that could be linked to it - history of miscarriages, heavy periods, tiredness for many years before the other symptoms started, puffy, sore dry eyes with blurry vision, yawning all the time, anxiety, depression, pain in the feet and legs, skin discolouration on my neck, and thinking as though I'm in a fog (thought I must have alzheimers), memory appalling, and, my mother was on Thyroxene before I was born (diabetic as well - is there a link there?). Is there a link to thyroid problems and angina? I think my husband just thought I'd been feeling 'lazy' for the past few years but he's very supportive now so I know he'll be pushing for me to get things sorted.

Sorry if I'm rambling here, but I'm just beginning to feel as though everything is coming together suddenly! It's quite a shock LOL! Can all the symptoms be reversed to some extent if the medication is right? Love Chris

[Guest guest]

BIG GRIN:-)))) The chances are I'll have forgotten I already asked the question and got an answer, so I won't even be embarrassed at asking it again LOL! But it's so lovely not to have to worry about that LOL! Thank you:-)))))

Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as the end result when medication is got right. Thanks for mentioning about the different kinds of synthetic/natural hormones - I wouldn't have thought of that. I'm so glad my husband is a bit more 'with it' than I am, so he can come to the doctors with me and ask all the questions I'm forgetting, even though I've got them written down on a piece of paper in front of me. I am so lucky to have found this group. I hope no-one minds me encouraging other people to join? There are so many in the same boat as me!

All of you who are so much better now, thank you - you are the ones leading us to get to the same place:-)))) And we in turn will be holding our hands out to others behind us.

Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Getting the meds right, the hormone levels where they need to be can make a HUGE difference. Will everything come back? Will it be as though nothing ever happened? That all depends on how hypo you were and for how long...

Our bodies are pretty amazing, they can deal with low level thyroid hormones for a long time, they adjust things and reorganize how things work to stay alive even when things are all messed up... but that can also cause some damage if it goes on for too long. No, I don't say this to scare.... Honest. But I want to make sure that you understand how important it is to jump in and do something. Keep on top of things, learn everything you can and how it all affects your body. It doesn't affect all of us the same way, we're all very individual on how our bodies react. So the more you know about the hormones and the meds and your body the better everything goes.

I base this opinion on what happened to me... over a decade of being underdosed by a string of docs that kept blaming everything on my weight and bad attitude. Well, the weight was a symptom of the hormone imbalance and the attitude had a lot to do with increasing pain levels, decreased abilities to do things, and eventually the loss of my home... I should be happy?

I ended up on crutches while under the care of bad docs. Did they look closer at my hormone levels, nope, blamed it on my weight.... yet when I switched the type of med that I was using... they had my on synthetic and I switched to an over the counter grade of natural, I got off the crutches.... as time passed and my dose increased my chronic pain went away, my sleep improved... well a ton of things improved. Things that I'd been dealing with for years and years cleared up.

My point in bringing that up is that for some it's not just the dosage (how much you are taking) but what kind.

Each of the different brands of synthetic (Synthroid, Levothroid, Levothyroxine, etc) contain slightly different fillers. Same goes for the different brands of naturals (Armour, Time-Caps Labs, Thyroid-S, etc). Some of us react differently to those fillers. And then there are some of us that do better on natural thyroid and others that do better on synthetics. And those on synthetics.... some to great with T4 only meds, some need T3 added.

I know... some of the new folks here are totally lost.... don't worry, you'll learn all the terms and such as you go, just ask questions, be it the first time you ask, or the tenth (hypo brain fog makes it easy to forget things so don't be shy about asking the same question again if you forget or just want to review, we're used to that)

One of the best things you can do for yourself is to find a doc that is open to different thyroid meds, by that I mean both naturals and synthetics so that if you aren't responding to a particular brand or type of med you have the option to try something else until your body is responding.

I could go on and on with this...I'm in a rambly mood today... hehehehe but I have over a hundred emails yet to go through and need to get going...

Ask questions, be open to learn, observe your body's reactions, find a doc that will work WITH you....

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:08:04 +0100 "" writes:

, that's amazing - for the weight to be dropping off you like that! Thank goodness you found a doctor who recognised what was happening!

My wait was gaining like that - a quarter of a stone every few weeks, despite dieting. My doctor gave me a copy of the Atkins Diet book and told me to try that:-))) I've gained four stone in a couple of years or so and it's still going up. (I was about 11 stone when it started, so four stone is quite a lot). I'm wondering about all sorts of things now that could be linked to it - history of miscarriages, heavy periods, tiredness for many years before the other symptoms started, puffy, sore dry eyes with blurry vision, yawning all the time, anxiety, depression, pain in the feet and legs, skin discolouration on my neck, and thinking as though I'm in a fog (thought I must have alzheimers), memory appalling, and, my mother was on Thyroxene before I was born (diabetic as well - is there a link there?). Is there a link to thyroid problems and angina? I think my husband just thought I'd been feeling 'lazy' for the past few years but he's very supportive now so I know he'll be pushing for me to get things sorted.

Sorry if I'm rambling here, but I'm just beginning to feel as though everything is coming together suddenly! It's quite a shock LOL! Can all the symptoms be reversed to some extent if the medication is right? Love Chris

[Guest guest]

BIG GRIN:-)))) The chances are I'll have forgotten I already asked the question and got an answer, so I won't even be embarrassed at asking it again LOL! But it's so lovely not to have to worry about that LOL! Thank you:-)))))

Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as the end result when medication is got right. Thanks for mentioning about the different kinds of synthetic/natural hormones - I wouldn't have thought of that. I'm so glad my husband is a bit more 'with it' than I am, so he can come to the doctors with me and ask all the questions I'm forgetting, even though I've got them written down on a piece of paper in front of me. I am so lucky to have found this group. I hope no-one minds me encouraging other people to join? There are so many in the same boat as me!

All of you who are so much better now, thank you - you are the ones leading us to get to the same place:-)))) And we in turn will be holding our hands out to others behind us.

Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Getting the meds right, the hormone levels where they need to be can make a HUGE difference. Will everything come back? Will it be as though nothing ever happened? That all depends on how hypo you were and for how long...

Our bodies are pretty amazing, they can deal with low level thyroid hormones for a long time, they adjust things and reorganize how things work to stay alive even when things are all messed up... but that can also cause some damage if it goes on for too long. No, I don't say this to scare.... Honest. But I want to make sure that you understand how important it is to jump in and do something. Keep on top of things, learn everything you can and how it all affects your body. It doesn't affect all of us the same way, we're all very individual on how our bodies react. So the more you know about the hormones and the meds and your body the better everything goes.

I base this opinion on what happened to me... over a decade of being underdosed by a string of docs that kept blaming everything on my weight and bad attitude. Well, the weight was a symptom of the hormone imbalance and the attitude had a lot to do with increasing pain levels, decreased abilities to do things, and eventually the loss of my home... I should be happy?

I ended up on crutches while under the care of bad docs. Did they look closer at my hormone levels, nope, blamed it on my weight.... yet when I switched the type of med that I was using... they had my on synthetic and I switched to an over the counter grade of natural, I got off the crutches.... as time passed and my dose increased my chronic pain went away, my sleep improved... well a ton of things improved. Things that I'd been dealing with for years and years cleared up.

My point in bringing that up is that for some it's not just the dosage (how much you are taking) but what kind.

Each of the different brands of synthetic (Synthroid, Levothroid, Levothyroxine, etc) contain slightly different fillers. Same goes for the different brands of naturals (Armour, Time-Caps Labs, Thyroid-S, etc). Some of us react differently to those fillers. And then there are some of us that do better on natural thyroid and others that do better on synthetics. And those on synthetics.... some to great with T4 only meds, some need T3 added.

I know... some of the new folks here are totally lost.... don't worry, you'll learn all the terms and such as you go, just ask questions, be it the first time you ask, or the tenth (hypo brain fog makes it easy to forget things so don't be shy about asking the same question again if you forget or just want to review, we're used to that)

One of the best things you can do for yourself is to find a doc that is open to different thyroid meds, by that I mean both naturals and synthetics so that if you aren't responding to a particular brand or type of med you have the option to try something else until your body is responding.

I could go on and on with this...I'm in a rambly mood today... hehehehe but I have over a hundred emails yet to go through and need to get going...

Ask questions, be open to learn, observe your body's reactions, find a doc that will work WITH you....

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:08:04 +0100 "" writes:

, that's amazing - for the weight to be dropping off you like that! Thank goodness you found a doctor who recognised what was happening!

My wait was gaining like that - a quarter of a stone every few weeks, despite dieting. My doctor gave me a copy of the Atkins Diet book and told me to try that:-))) I've gained four stone in a couple of years or so and it's still going up. (I was about 11 stone when it started, so four stone is quite a lot). I'm wondering about all sorts of things now that could be linked to it - history of miscarriages, heavy periods, tiredness for many years before the other symptoms started, puffy, sore dry eyes with blurry vision, yawning all the time, anxiety, depression, pain in the feet and legs, skin discolouration on my neck, and thinking as though I'm in a fog (thought I must have alzheimers), memory appalling, and, my mother was on Thyroxene before I was born (diabetic as well - is there a link there?). Is there a link to thyroid problems and angina? I think my husband just thought I'd been feeling 'lazy' for the past few years but he's very supportive now so I know he'll be pushing for me to get things sorted.

Sorry if I'm rambling here, but I'm just beginning to feel as though everything is coming together suddenly! It's quite a shock LOL! Can all the symptoms be reversed to some extent if the medication is right? Love Chris

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris--

I know that hearts can grow stronger again, but I don't know if they'll

get back to " normal " or not--it probably depends on whether it's just

gotten weak or if there's actual damage. The brain definitely can

heal--there are plenty of extra cells. :-)

Asking about what happens to skin afterwards isn't silly in my opinion!

I was wondering the same thing, and sort of still am. I've been losing

weight very gradually--1/2 to one pound per week--and my skin doesn't

seem to be quite keeping up, but I am hopeful that it will catch up. I

think it will depend on nutrition quite a lot. A good food-source

multiple plus vitamin C, flaxseed oil, co-Q10 and vitamin E are, I hope,

helping my heart, my skin, and the rest of me. I, too, have probably

been hypo since my teens (with maybe some hyper in there, too, but both

too mild to be diagnosed). You don't want to know how high my

cholesterol & triglycerides were--it's too scary!!!! I was under 100

pounds for most of my life, and found myself weighing 150 in a hurry

about 5 years ago. I'm now down to 130 & hope to stabilize around 120.

At 5'2 " and 47 years old, that sounds good to me. :-)

I started on Synthroid in January this year, and three weeks later felt

worse than I ever had in my life--hives all over, LOW energy, just

awful! Compounded T4/T3 wasn't any better for me, but I felt a positive

difference within a day or two after starting Armour in May. I don't

have it where I need it yet, but I'm close & doing much better.

Deborah

wrote:

> Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back

> to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and

> muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells

> die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so

> 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am

> serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering

> about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the

> last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall

> down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always

> been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was

> something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight

> suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as

> the end result when medication is got right.

[Guest guest]

Deborah, thanks for saying that. I was VERY hesitant to ask because I thought I might sound so silly:-)) (But I do always tell people never to be afraid of asking anything because there is bound to be someone else who wants to know the answer to the question as well:-)))) There is hope then:-))) That is a great comfort to know that the brain can recover! I'll ask the doctor on Friday about the heart issue (or if I can arrange an appointment with someone else before then, I'll ask then). Thanks for the suggestions re the food and vitamins - I'll get started on that too. I was about 11 stone (sorry, working in stone, but there's 14lb in a stone) for most of my life until I shot up to 15 stone. I'm 5ft 9" though so 11 stone was about right for me - 15 certainly isn't!

Did you get the Armour yourself and start on a small dose and then gradually increase until it felt right? Or did you do it all with the help of a doctor?

Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Hi Chris--I know that hearts can grow stronger again, but I don't know if they'll get back to "normal" or not--it probably depends on whether it's just gotten weak or if there's actual damage. The brain definitely can heal--there are plenty of extra cells. :-)Asking about what happens to skin afterwards isn't silly in my opinion! I was wondering the same thing, and sort of still am. I've been losing weight very gradually--1/2 to one pound per week--and my skin doesn't seem to be quite keeping up, but I am hopeful that it will catch up. I think it will depend on nutrition quite a lot. A good food-source multiple plus vitamin C, flaxseed oil, co-Q10 and vitamin E are, I hope, helping my heart, my skin, and the rest of me. I, too, have probably been hypo since my teens (with maybe some hyper in there, too, but both too mild to be diagnosed). You don't want to know how high my cholesterol & triglycerides were--it's too scary!!!! I was under 100 pounds for most of my life, and found myself weighing 150 in a hurry about 5 years ago. I'm now down to 130 & hope to stabilize around 120. At 5'2" and 47 years old, that sounds good to me. :-)I started on Synthroid in January this year, and three weeks later felt worse than I ever had in my life--hives all over, LOW energy, just awful! Compounded T4/T3 wasn't any better for me, but I felt a positive difference within a day or two after starting Armour in May. I don't have it where I need it yet, but I'm close & doing much better.Deborah wrote:> Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back > to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and > muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells > die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so > 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am > serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering > about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the > last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall > down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always > been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was > something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight > suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as > the end result when medication is got right.

[Guest guest]

Deborah, thanks for saying that. I was VERY hesitant to ask because I thought I might sound so silly:-)) (But I do always tell people never to be afraid of asking anything because there is bound to be someone else who wants to know the answer to the question as well:-)))) There is hope then:-))) That is a great comfort to know that the brain can recover! I'll ask the doctor on Friday about the heart issue (or if I can arrange an appointment with someone else before then, I'll ask then). Thanks for the suggestions re the food and vitamins - I'll get started on that too. I was about 11 stone (sorry, working in stone, but there's 14lb in a stone) for most of my life until I shot up to 15 stone. I'm 5ft 9" though so 11 stone was about right for me - 15 certainly isn't!

Did you get the Armour yourself and start on a small dose and then gradually increase until it felt right? Or did you do it all with the help of a doctor?

Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Hi Chris--I know that hearts can grow stronger again, but I don't know if they'll get back to "normal" or not--it probably depends on whether it's just gotten weak or if there's actual damage. The brain definitely can heal--there are plenty of extra cells. :-)Asking about what happens to skin afterwards isn't silly in my opinion! I was wondering the same thing, and sort of still am. I've been losing weight very gradually--1/2 to one pound per week--and my skin doesn't seem to be quite keeping up, but I am hopeful that it will catch up. I think it will depend on nutrition quite a lot. A good food-source multiple plus vitamin C, flaxseed oil, co-Q10 and vitamin E are, I hope, helping my heart, my skin, and the rest of me. I, too, have probably been hypo since my teens (with maybe some hyper in there, too, but both too mild to be diagnosed). You don't want to know how high my cholesterol & triglycerides were--it's too scary!!!! I was under 100 pounds for most of my life, and found myself weighing 150 in a hurry about 5 years ago. I'm now down to 130 & hope to stabilize around 120. At 5'2" and 47 years old, that sounds good to me. :-)I started on Synthroid in January this year, and three weeks later felt worse than I ever had in my life--hives all over, LOW energy, just awful! Compounded T4/T3 wasn't any better for me, but I felt a positive difference within a day or two after starting Armour in May. I don't have it where I need it yet, but I'm close & doing much better.Deborah wrote:> Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back > to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and > muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells > die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so > 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am > serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering > about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the > last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall > down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always > been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was > something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight > suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as > the end result when medication is got right.

[Guest guest]

my so-called " doctor " was afraid that I'd go hyper on more than

1/2 grain per day, switching from T4/T3 at 40/30!!!!! I got a headache

that wouldn't go away until after I added another 1/4 grain, and she

REFUSED to increase it, after not answering my calls for over a week.

So yes, I've been doing it on my own, with the help of another thyroid

group on Yahoo. I'm still there, but someone told us about Topper & her

story, so I came over to have a look & see what's different. The groups

ARE different, each with their own style & tone--I like both, so I'll

probably stick around. :-) I'd tell you the name of the other one, but

I don't know the policy or attitude here yet well enough to know if I

can or not.

The way I see it, there are only two kinds of stupid/silly questions:

the ones you already know the answer to, and the ones you don't ask. :-)

Deborah

wrote:

> Deborah, thanks for saying that. I was VERY hesitant to ask because I

> thought I might sound so silly:-)) (But I do always tell people never

> to be afraid of asking anything because there is bound to be someone

> else who wants to know the answer to the question as well:-)))) There

> is hope then:-))) That is a great comfort to know that the brain can

> recover! I'll ask the doctor on Friday about the heart issue (or if I

> can arrange an appointment with someone else before then, I'll ask

> then). Thanks for the suggestions re the food and vitamins - I'll get

> started on that too. I was about 11 stone (sorry, working in stone,

> but there's 14lb in a stone) for most of my life until I shot up to 15

> stone. I'm 5ft 9 " though so 11 stone was about right for me - 15

> certainly isn't!

>

> Did you get the Armour yourself and start on a small dose and then

> gradually increase until it felt right? Or did you do it all with the

> help of a doctor?

[Guest guest]

my so-called " doctor " was afraid that I'd go hyper on more than

1/2 grain per day, switching from T4/T3 at 40/30!!!!! I got a headache

that wouldn't go away until after I added another 1/4 grain, and she

REFUSED to increase it, after not answering my calls for over a week.

So yes, I've been doing it on my own, with the help of another thyroid

group on Yahoo. I'm still there, but someone told us about Topper & her

story, so I came over to have a look & see what's different. The groups

ARE different, each with their own style & tone--I like both, so I'll

probably stick around. :-) I'd tell you the name of the other one, but

I don't know the policy or attitude here yet well enough to know if I

can or not.

The way I see it, there are only two kinds of stupid/silly questions:

the ones you already know the answer to, and the ones you don't ask. :-)

Deborah

wrote:

> Deborah, thanks for saying that. I was VERY hesitant to ask because I

> thought I might sound so silly:-)) (But I do always tell people never

> to be afraid of asking anything because there is bound to be someone

> else who wants to know the answer to the question as well:-)))) There

> is hope then:-))) That is a great comfort to know that the brain can

> recover! I'll ask the doctor on Friday about the heart issue (or if I

> can arrange an appointment with someone else before then, I'll ask

> then). Thanks for the suggestions re the food and vitamins - I'll get

> started on that too. I was about 11 stone (sorry, working in stone,

> but there's 14lb in a stone) for most of my life until I shot up to 15

> stone. I'm 5ft 9 " though so 11 stone was about right for me - 15

> certainly isn't!

>

> Did you get the Armour yourself and start on a small dose and then

> gradually increase until it felt right? Or did you do it all with the

> help of a doctor?

[Guest guest]

Chris:

Can you contact Barry Peatfield. He's in England. Look him up on-line if you can. He'll prescribe Armour for you.

~E:) wrote:

Deborah, thanks for saying that. I was VERY hesitant to ask because I thought I might sound so silly:-)) (But I do always tell people never to be afraid of asking anything because there is bound to be someone else who wants to know the answer to the question as well:-)))) There is hope then:-))) That is a great comfort to know that the brain can recover! I'll ask the doctor on Friday about the heart issue (or if I can arrange an appointment with someone else before then, I'll ask then). Thanks for the suggestions re the food and vitamins - I'll get started on that too. I was about 11 stone (sorry, working in stone, but there's 14lb in a stone) for most of my life until I shot up to 15 stone. I'm 5ft 9" though so 11 stone was about right for me - 15 certainly isn't!

Did you get the Armour yourself and start on a small dose and then gradually increase until it felt right? Or did you do it all with the help of a doctor?

Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Hi Chris--I know that hearts can grow stronger again, but I don't know if they'll get back to "normal" or not--it probably depends on whether it's just gotten weak or if there's actual damage. The brain definitely can heal--there are plenty of extra cells. :-)Asking about what happens to skin afterwards isn't silly in my opinion! I was wondering the same thing, and sort of still am. I've been losing weight very gradually--1/2 to one pound per week--and my skin doesn't seem to be quite keeping up, but I am hopeful that it will catch up. I think it will depend on nutrition quite a lot. A good food-source multiple plus vitamin C, flaxseed oil, co-Q10 and vitamin E are, I hope, helping my heart, my skin, and the rest of me. I, too, have probably been hypo since my teens (with maybe some hyper in there, too, but both too mild to be diagnosed). You don't want to know how

high my cholesterol & triglycerides were--it's too scary!!!! I was under 100 pounds for most of my life, and found myself weighing 150 in a hurry about 5 years ago. I'm now down to 130 & hope to stabilize around 120. At 5'2" and 47 years old, that sounds good to me. :-)I started on Synthroid in January this year, and three weeks later felt worse than I ever had in my life--hives all over, LOW energy, just awful! Compounded T4/T3 wasn't any better for me, but I felt a positive difference within a day or two after starting Armour in May. I don't have it where I need it yet, but I'm close & doing much better.Deborah wrote:> Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back > to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and > muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells

> die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so > 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am > serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering > about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the > last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall > down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always > been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was > something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight > suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as > the end result when medication is got right.

~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th

Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

[Guest guest]

Chris:

Can you contact Barry Peatfield. He's in England. Look him up on-line if you can. He'll prescribe Armour for you.

~E:) wrote:

Deborah, thanks for saying that. I was VERY hesitant to ask because I thought I might sound so silly:-)) (But I do always tell people never to be afraid of asking anything because there is bound to be someone else who wants to know the answer to the question as well:-)))) There is hope then:-))) That is a great comfort to know that the brain can recover! I'll ask the doctor on Friday about the heart issue (or if I can arrange an appointment with someone else before then, I'll ask then). Thanks for the suggestions re the food and vitamins - I'll get started on that too. I was about 11 stone (sorry, working in stone, but there's 14lb in a stone) for most of my life until I shot up to 15 stone. I'm 5ft 9" though so 11 stone was about right for me - 15 certainly isn't!

Did you get the Armour yourself and start on a small dose and then gradually increase until it felt right? Or did you do it all with the help of a doctor?

Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Hi Chris--I know that hearts can grow stronger again, but I don't know if they'll get back to "normal" or not--it probably depends on whether it's just gotten weak or if there's actual damage. The brain definitely can heal--there are plenty of extra cells. :-)Asking about what happens to skin afterwards isn't silly in my opinion! I was wondering the same thing, and sort of still am. I've been losing weight very gradually--1/2 to one pound per week--and my skin doesn't seem to be quite keeping up, but I am hopeful that it will catch up. I think it will depend on nutrition quite a lot. A good food-source multiple plus vitamin C, flaxseed oil, co-Q10 and vitamin E are, I hope, helping my heart, my skin, and the rest of me. I, too, have probably been hypo since my teens (with maybe some hyper in there, too, but both too mild to be diagnosed). You don't want to know how

high my cholesterol & triglycerides were--it's too scary!!!! I was under 100 pounds for most of my life, and found myself weighing 150 in a hurry about 5 years ago. I'm now down to 130 & hope to stabilize around 120. At 5'2" and 47 years old, that sounds good to me. :-)I started on Synthroid in January this year, and three weeks later felt worse than I ever had in my life--hives all over, LOW energy, just awful! Compounded T4/T3 wasn't any better for me, but I felt a positive difference within a day or two after starting Armour in May. I don't have it where I need it yet, but I'm close & doing much better.Deborah wrote:> Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back > to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and > muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells

> die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so > 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am > serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering > about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the > last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall > down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always > been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was > something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight > suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as > the end result when medication is got right.

~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th

Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

[Guest guest]

Chris:

Can you contact Barry Peatfield. He's in England. Look him up on-line if you can. He'll prescribe Armour for you.

~E:) wrote:

Deborah, thanks for saying that. I was VERY hesitant to ask because I thought I might sound so silly:-)) (But I do always tell people never to be afraid of asking anything because there is bound to be someone else who wants to know the answer to the question as well:-)))) There is hope then:-))) That is a great comfort to know that the brain can recover! I'll ask the doctor on Friday about the heart issue (or if I can arrange an appointment with someone else before then, I'll ask then). Thanks for the suggestions re the food and vitamins - I'll get started on that too. I was about 11 stone (sorry, working in stone, but there's 14lb in a stone) for most of my life until I shot up to 15 stone. I'm 5ft 9" though so 11 stone was about right for me - 15 certainly isn't!

Did you get the Armour yourself and start on a small dose and then gradually increase until it felt right? Or did you do it all with the help of a doctor?

Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Hi Chris--I know that hearts can grow stronger again, but I don't know if they'll get back to "normal" or not--it probably depends on whether it's just gotten weak or if there's actual damage. The brain definitely can heal--there are plenty of extra cells. :-)Asking about what happens to skin afterwards isn't silly in my opinion! I was wondering the same thing, and sort of still am. I've been losing weight very gradually--1/2 to one pound per week--and my skin doesn't seem to be quite keeping up, but I am hopeful that it will catch up. I think it will depend on nutrition quite a lot. A good food-source multiple plus vitamin C, flaxseed oil, co-Q10 and vitamin E are, I hope, helping my heart, my skin, and the rest of me. I, too, have probably been hypo since my teens (with maybe some hyper in there, too, but both too mild to be diagnosed). You don't want to know how

high my cholesterol & triglycerides were--it's too scary!!!! I was under 100 pounds for most of my life, and found myself weighing 150 in a hurry about 5 years ago. I'm now down to 130 & hope to stabilize around 120. At 5'2" and 47 years old, that sounds good to me. :-)I started on Synthroid in January this year, and three weeks later felt worse than I ever had in my life--hives all over, LOW energy, just awful! Compounded T4/T3 wasn't any better for me, but I felt a positive difference within a day or two after starting Armour in May. I don't have it where I need it yet, but I'm close & doing much better.Deborah wrote:> Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back > to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and > muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells

> die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so > 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am > serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering > about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the > last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall > down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always > been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was > something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight > suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as > the end result when medication is got right.

~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th

Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

[Guest guest]

Dr Peatfield isn't licensed to prescribe. He is now practicing as a nutrtionist having retired from mainstream medicine

Lynda

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Chris:

Can you contact Barry Peatfield. He's in England. Look him up on-line if you can. He'll prescribe Armour for you.

~E:)

[Guest guest]

Dr Peatfield isn't licensed to prescribe. He is now practicing as a nutrtionist having retired from mainstream medicine

Lynda

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Chris:

Can you contact Barry Peatfield. He's in England. Look him up on-line if you can. He'll prescribe Armour for you.

~E:)

[Guest guest]

Dr Peatfield isn't licensed to prescribe. He is now practicing as a nutrtionist having retired from mainstream medicine

Lynda

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Chris:

Can you contact Barry Peatfield. He's in England. Look him up on-line if you can. He'll prescribe Armour for you.

~E:)

[Guest guest]

Thanks Deborah:-)))) It means that if I don't get the co-operation of the doctor, there are possibilities to still change things. I'm going to try phoning Dr. Skinner tomorrow (his office was closed today). Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

my so-called "doctor" was afraid that I'd go hyper on more than 1/2 grain per day, switching from T4/T3 at 40/30!!!!! I got a headache that wouldn't go away until after I added another 1/4 grain, and she REFUSED to increase it, after not answering my calls for over a week. So yes, I've been doing it on my own, with the help of another thyroid group on Yahoo. I'm still there, but someone told us about Topper & her story, so I came over to have a look & see what's different. The groups ARE different, each with their own style & tone--I like both, so I'll probably stick around. :-) I'd tell you the name of the other one, but I don't know the policy or attitude here yet well enough to know if I can or not.The way I see it, there are only two kinds of stupid/silly questions: the ones you already know the answer to, and the ones you don't ask. :-)Deborah wrote:> Deborah, thanks for saying that. I was VERY hesitant to ask because I > thought I might sound so silly:-)) (But I do always tell people never > to be afraid of asking anything because there is bound to be someone > else who wants to know the answer to the question as well:-)))) There > is hope then:-))) That is a great comfort to know that the brain can > recover! I'll ask the doctor on Friday about the heart issue (or if I > can arrange an appointment with someone else before then, I'll ask > then). Thanks for the suggestions re the food and vitamins - I'll get > started on that too. I was about 11 stone (sorry, working in stone, > but there's 14lb in a stone) for most of my life until I shot up to 15 > stone. I'm 5ft 9" though so 11 stone was about right for me - 15 > certainly isn't! > > Did you get the Armour yourself and start on a small dose and then > gradually increase until it felt right? Or did you do it all with the > help of a doctor?

[Guest guest]

Oh many thanks! You've already answered this question as I've just asked it LOL! Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Hi Chris--I know that hearts can grow stronger again, but I don't know if they'll get back to "normal" or not--it probably depends on whether it's just gotten weak or if there's actual damage. The brain definitely can heal--there are plenty of extra cells. :-)Asking about what happens to skin afterwards isn't silly in my opinion! I was wondering the same thing, and sort of still am. I've been losing weight very gradually--1/2 to one pound per week--and my skin doesn't seem to be quite keeping up, but I am hopeful that it will catch up. I think it will depend on nutrition quite a lot. A good food-source multiple plus vitamin C, flaxseed oil, co-Q10 and vitamin E are, I hope, helping my heart, my skin, and the rest of me. I, too, have probably been hypo since my teens (with maybe some hyper in there, too, but both too mild to be diagnosed). You don't want to know how high my cholesterol & triglycerides were--it's too scary!!!! I was under 100 pounds for most of my life, and found myself weighing 150 in a hurry about 5 years ago. I'm now down to 130 & hope to stabilize around 120. At 5'2" and 47 years old, that sounds good to me. :-)I started on Synthroid in January this year, and three weeks later felt worse than I ever had in my life--hives all over, LOW energy, just awful! Compounded T4/T3 wasn't any better for me, but I felt a positive difference within a day or two after starting Armour in May. I don't have it where I need it yet, but I'm close & doing much better.Deborah wrote:> Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back > to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and > muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells > die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so > 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am > serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering > about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the > last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall > down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always > been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was > something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight > suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as > the end result when medication is got right.

~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th

Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

[Guest guest]

Oh many thanks! You've already answered this question as I've just asked it LOL! Love Chris

Re: Levothyroxine side-effects

Hi Chris--I know that hearts can grow stronger again, but I don't know if they'll get back to "normal" or not--it probably depends on whether it's just gotten weak or if there's actual damage. The brain definitely can heal--there are plenty of extra cells. :-)Asking about what happens to skin afterwards isn't silly in my opinion! I was wondering the same thing, and sort of still am. I've been losing weight very gradually--1/2 to one pound per week--and my skin doesn't seem to be quite keeping up, but I am hopeful that it will catch up. I think it will depend on nutrition quite a lot. A good food-source multiple plus vitamin C, flaxseed oil, co-Q10 and vitamin E are, I hope, helping my heart, my skin, and the rest of me. I, too, have probably been hypo since my teens (with maybe some hyper in there, too, but both too mild to be diagnosed). You don't want to know how high my cholesterol & triglycerides were--it's too scary!!!! I was under 100 pounds for most of my life, and found myself weighing 150 in a hurry about 5 years ago. I'm now down to 130 & hope to stabilize around 120. At 5'2" and 47 years old, that sounds good to me. :-)I started on Synthroid in January this year, and three weeks later felt worse than I ever had in my life--hives all over, LOW energy, just awful! Compounded T4/T3 wasn't any better for me, but I felt a positive difference within a day or two after starting Armour in May. I don't have it where I need it yet, but I'm close & doing much better.Deborah wrote:> Yes, I'm wondering about the heart side of things - can that get back > to 'normality'? But then I'm thinking that the heart is a muscle, and > muscles can be built up again? What about the brain bit - brain cells > die, don't they - can the brain get much better after getting so > 'bad'? I'm wondering (don't laugh too much here, because I am > serious, and thought about deleting this sentance, but I am wondering > about it) what about if I lose the weight that I've gained over the > last few years - what will happen to the skin!? Will it all fall > down!? I'm 55 - will it shrink back???? I think I've probably always > been hypothyroid - well as far back as into my teens I think there was > something wrong, but only about five years or so ago the weight > suddenly piled on so rapidly, so I don't know what I can hope for as > the end result when medication is got right.

~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th

Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

[Guest guest]

You got a chuckle out of me, Dan.... you mention fuzzier and I lost body hair... interesting how it affects us differently.. not just male and female... but generally person to person....

....figuring out thyroid is one of the most fascinating of puzzles!

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:01:06 -0000 "Dan" writes:

As I said to my doc when I first got diagnosed with Hashi's, given 10years I could change into Wolfman and not notice until my razor bladebill gets ridiculously high................dan

[Guest guest]

You got a chuckle out of me, Dan.... you mention fuzzier and I lost body hair... interesting how it affects us differently.. not just male and female... but generally person to person....

....figuring out thyroid is one of the most fascinating of puzzles!

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:01:06 -0000 "Dan" writes:

As I said to my doc when I first got diagnosed with Hashi's, given 10years I could change into Wolfman and not notice until my razor bladebill gets ridiculously high................dan

[Guest guest]

You got a chuckle out of me, Dan.... you mention fuzzier and I lost body hair... interesting how it affects us differently.. not just male and female... but generally person to person....

....figuring out thyroid is one of the most fascinating of puzzles!

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:01:06 -0000 "Dan" writes:

As I said to my doc when I first got diagnosed with Hashi's, given 10years I could change into Wolfman and not notice until my razor bladebill gets ridiculously high................dan

[Guest guest]

I believe the brain fog is one of the reasons we are such good patients. When I first got online and started learning more about thyroid I heard a comment about how there are docs that consider thyroid problems to be a 'bread and butter' disease. Why? Because they can abuse us for years with low dosing and roller coaster dosing and make as absolutely and totally miserable without actually killing us. In the mean time the can run dozens of other meds at us to relieve us of our myriad of symptoms which, according to them, have nothing to do with our thyroids because our TSH is 'just fine'.

I think that one phrase, after how I suffered for so many years, is what got my ire up and made me look for answers.

.... I'm not somebody else's guaranteed pay check... I'm a human being....

Topper () *slides soap box back into it's corner*

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 07:42:47 +0100 "" writes:

Hi Dan, It makes me realise just how wonderful we are as human beings at adapting to circumstances and what life throws at us LOL! Seriously, I've come to the conclusion that part of all this thyroid stuff - the foggy thinking that comes with it, is probably the reason we don't question what's happening. Love Chris:-)

[Guest guest]

I believe the brain fog is one of the reasons we are such good patients. When I first got online and started learning more about thyroid I heard a comment about how there are docs that consider thyroid problems to be a 'bread and butter' disease. Why? Because they can abuse us for years with low dosing and roller coaster dosing and make as absolutely and totally miserable without actually killing us. In the mean time the can run dozens of other meds at us to relieve us of our myriad of symptoms which, according to them, have nothing to do with our thyroids because our TSH is 'just fine'.

I think that one phrase, after how I suffered for so many years, is what got my ire up and made me look for answers.

.... I'm not somebody else's guaranteed pay check... I'm a human being....

Topper () *slides soap box back into it's corner*

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 07:42:47 +0100 "" writes:

Hi Dan, It makes me realise just how wonderful we are as human beings at adapting to circumstances and what life throws at us LOL! Seriously, I've come to the conclusion that part of all this thyroid stuff - the foggy thinking that comes with it, is probably the reason we don't question what's happening. Love Chris:-)

[Guest guest]

I believe the brain fog is one of the reasons we are such good patients. When I first got online and started learning more about thyroid I heard a comment about how there are docs that consider thyroid problems to be a 'bread and butter' disease. Why? Because they can abuse us for years with low dosing and roller coaster dosing and make as absolutely and totally miserable without actually killing us. In the mean time the can run dozens of other meds at us to relieve us of our myriad of symptoms which, according to them, have nothing to do with our thyroids because our TSH is 'just fine'.

I think that one phrase, after how I suffered for so many years, is what got my ire up and made me look for answers.

.... I'm not somebody else's guaranteed pay check... I'm a human being....

Topper () *slides soap box back into it's corner*

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 07:42:47 +0100 "" writes:

Hi Dan, It makes me realise just how wonderful we are as human beings at adapting to circumstances and what life throws at us LOL! Seriously, I've come to the conclusion that part of all this thyroid stuff - the foggy thinking that comes with it, is probably the reason we don't question what's happening. Love Chris:-)