RE: Re: College, a waste of time

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In a message dated 12/13/04 6:51:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

> >

> > I cannot put into words how pissed off I was when I

> > had to take philosophy, and Humanties through the

> > F#ckin' Arts. Who really gives a damn about that crap?

> >

> Only those with intelligence and intellect.

>

> GG

>

Sounds like me when I was taking Statistics for a B. S. in EMS. Why? I

thought.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/13/04 6:51:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

> >

> > I cannot put into words how pissed off I was when I

> > had to take philosophy, and Humanties through the

> > F#ckin' Arts. Who really gives a damn about that crap?

> >

> Only those with intelligence and intellect.

>

> GG

>

Sounds like me when I was taking Statistics for a B. S. in EMS. Why? I

thought.

[Guest guest]

Ahh, but what is your feeling now about learning statistics? There

are many time we go into a class thinking " why " but hopefully we leave with

that question answered.

The " who gives a crap " mentality for learning the arts reminds me of a

survey taken at the EMS conference in Fort Worth by a graduate student in

health promotion. Most of the medics surveyed were making verbal comments

about not giving a hoot about health or health promotion...afterall they

were EMS medics who's main goal was to deal with trauma and fend off death.

A noble goal except that the number one killer of most emergency service

providers (and the general population as well) are heart attacks/heart

disease, cancers and diabetes/complications of diabetes. All of which can be

tied to lifestyle and health behaviors that are positively impacted by

health promotion interventions that geared towards keeping medics healthy.

Education helps you to being able to not only ask " why " but then find the

answer and apply that knowledge in new situations. It helps your critical

thinking and being able to stand back and look at the big, big picture.

(Such as not just how does EMS function, but what role does EMS provide and

how can it be enhanced to meet the overall needs of the community it serves?

What should be our objectives and how will we know when we've accomplished

those objectives? What is our impact on the community? How do we know? How

do we prove it?)

Gene, your answer to who give's a crap was right on the money. Not because

of the specific value of those specific classes (though they are valuable in

their own right) but because of the learning that takes place in those

classes to sharpen the student's intelligence and intellect.

Sorry for being so wordy, but that's my $.02 and I'm sticking to it.

Barry S.

Re: Re: College, a waste of time

In a message dated 12/13/04 6:51:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

> >

> > I cannot put into words how pissed off I was when I

> > had to take philosophy, and Humanties through the

> > F#ckin' Arts. Who really gives a damn about that crap?

> >

> Only those with intelligence and intellect.

>

> GG

>

Sounds like me when I was taking Statistics for a B. S. in EMS. Why? I

thought.

[Guest guest]

Ahh, but what is your feeling now about learning statistics? There

are many time we go into a class thinking " why " but hopefully we leave with

that question answered.

The " who gives a crap " mentality for learning the arts reminds me of a

survey taken at the EMS conference in Fort Worth by a graduate student in

health promotion. Most of the medics surveyed were making verbal comments

about not giving a hoot about health or health promotion...afterall they

were EMS medics who's main goal was to deal with trauma and fend off death.

A noble goal except that the number one killer of most emergency service

providers (and the general population as well) are heart attacks/heart

disease, cancers and diabetes/complications of diabetes. All of which can be

tied to lifestyle and health behaviors that are positively impacted by

health promotion interventions that geared towards keeping medics healthy.

Education helps you to being able to not only ask " why " but then find the

answer and apply that knowledge in new situations. It helps your critical

thinking and being able to stand back and look at the big, big picture.

(Such as not just how does EMS function, but what role does EMS provide and

how can it be enhanced to meet the overall needs of the community it serves?

What should be our objectives and how will we know when we've accomplished

those objectives? What is our impact on the community? How do we know? How

do we prove it?)

Gene, your answer to who give's a crap was right on the money. Not because

of the specific value of those specific classes (though they are valuable in

their own right) but because of the learning that takes place in those

classes to sharpen the student's intelligence and intellect.

Sorry for being so wordy, but that's my $.02 and I'm sticking to it.

Barry S.

Re: Re: College, a waste of time

In a message dated 12/13/04 6:51:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

> >

> > I cannot put into words how pissed off I was when I

> > had to take philosophy, and Humanties through the

> > F#ckin' Arts. Who really gives a damn about that crap?

> >

> Only those with intelligence and intellect.

>

> GG

>

Sounds like me when I was taking Statistics for a B. S. in EMS. Why? I

thought.