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Hi Jack,

I don't have an answer for you on cramps. Some people do experience cramping

as they approach kidney failure. It can also be a side effect of meds.

Serum creatinine level and " creatinine clearance " are different ways of

determining kidney function. Creatinine is a protein produced by muscle and

released into the blood. The amount produced is relatively stable in a given

person. The creatinine level in the serum is therefore determined by the

rate it is being removed, which is roughly a measure of kidney function. If

kidney function falls (say a kidney is removed to donate to a relative), the

creatinine level will rise. Normal is about 1.0 (I believe they use

different units in the UK so don't be thrown by these numbers - someone else

here can hopefully help with that!) for an average adult. Infants that have

little muscle will have lower normal levels (0.2). Muscle bound weight

lifters may have a higher normal creatinine. Generally, larger, more

muscular people have higher " normal " levels of creatinine than smaller

people. While creatinine is not per say " bad " , creatinine levels rise as

the kidneys go downhill.

There is wonderful information on fish oil on the web site at IGAN.CA. Look

for it in the IgA Nephropathy Notebook.

Sorry to hear your net access is limited! We look forward to hearing from

you when you come back!.

Cy

thanks for the welcome

> i like to thank every one for making me feel welcome esp. everyone who

replied to my questions.my access to the net is limited reason for delay in

replying. i am learning more about this condition, just if i could reply in

general to some of yer queries.i find unless i ask, my neph he will not

tell me much.i do not know what any of my blood test levels are i have one

coming back soon i intend to find out. at present the neph has me on adalat

retard 10mg twice aday, lipitor 10mg one at night, cardura xl 4mg aday,

tritace 10mg aday i beleive he can only treat the BP i do not know what his

plan is for the future.

> what pierre said about life insurance comes as a blow because myself and

my wife have talked about getting cover for a while it does not look good

now. maybe someone else might have gone through this before.i enjoy reading

all the different posting,but dont have enough time to make reply .

> i have alot of questions yet maybe i could ask 1 or 2 on this occasion.

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> 1. alot of cramps mostly during the night and morning after getting out

of bed more than lightly medication ?

> 2. creatinine levels they seem to be very important what do they actual

> tell you.

> 3.fish oils is it how they slow down the condition and has any one found

them any good if so what kind and in what form.

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Hi Jack,

I don't have an answer for you on cramps. Some people do experience cramping

as they approach kidney failure. It can also be a side effect of meds.

Serum creatinine level and " creatinine clearance " are different ways of

determining kidney function. Creatinine is a protein produced by muscle and

released into the blood. The amount produced is relatively stable in a given

person. The creatinine level in the serum is therefore determined by the

rate it is being removed, which is roughly a measure of kidney function. If

kidney function falls (say a kidney is removed to donate to a relative), the

creatinine level will rise. Normal is about 1.0 (I believe they use

different units in the UK so don't be thrown by these numbers - someone else

here can hopefully help with that!) for an average adult. Infants that have

little muscle will have lower normal levels (0.2). Muscle bound weight

lifters may have a higher normal creatinine. Generally, larger, more

muscular people have higher " normal " levels of creatinine than smaller

people. While creatinine is not per say " bad " , creatinine levels rise as

the kidneys go downhill.

There is wonderful information on fish oil on the web site at IGAN.CA. Look

for it in the IgA Nephropathy Notebook.

Sorry to hear your net access is limited! We look forward to hearing from

you when you come back!.

Cy

thanks for the welcome

> i like to thank every one for making me feel welcome esp. everyone who

replied to my questions.my access to the net is limited reason for delay in

replying. i am learning more about this condition, just if i could reply in

general to some of yer queries.i find unless i ask, my neph he will not

tell me much.i do not know what any of my blood test levels are i have one

coming back soon i intend to find out. at present the neph has me on adalat

retard 10mg twice aday, lipitor 10mg one at night, cardura xl 4mg aday,

tritace 10mg aday i beleive he can only treat the BP i do not know what his

plan is for the future.

> what pierre said about life insurance comes as a blow because myself and

my wife have talked about getting cover for a while it does not look good

now. maybe someone else might have gone through this before.i enjoy reading

all the different posting,but dont have enough time to make reply .

> i have alot of questions yet maybe i could ask 1 or 2 on this occasion.

>

> 1. alot of cramps mostly during the night and morning after getting out

of bed more than lightly medication ?

> 2. creatinine levels they seem to be very important what do they actual

> tell you.

> 3.fish oils is it how they slow down the condition and has any one found

them any good if so what kind and in what form.

>

>

> thanks jack king.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Hi Jack,

I think I may have missed your original email, so welcome to the group!

1. In response to your questions, the muscle cramps are a reflection of

electrolyte imbalances, not due to medications.

2. Creatinine levels are a means of tracking renal function. Roughly, each

time your creatinine level doubles, you have lost 50% of the remaining kidney

function.

For example, my normal for my size as a fairly small female would be 0.7

before I got IgAN, so:

..07 = 100% function

1.4 = 50% function

2.8 = 25% function

5.6 = 12.5% kidney function

3. There are mixed results on the fish oil, but my Neph said they may help,

but certainly don't hurt. You can read about fish oil on our sister site,

www.igan.ca. You will find lots of very good information there.

Welcome again.

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couldstore@... writes:

> 1. alot of cramps mostly during the night and morning after getting out of

> bed more than lightly medication ?

> 2. creatinine levels they seem to be very important what do they actual

> tell you.

> 3.fish oils is it how they slow down the condition and has any one found

> them any good if so what kind and in what form.

>

>

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Hello Jack,

Let me say welcome. Fish oil can help some people and can be found in

health food store in a pill form which I think is the best way to

take it. The cramping at night I still not sure what cause them but

since my doctor put me on a muscle relaxer 3x a day I don't get them

as often (Still every now and then if i push myself). As for the

creatinine as far as I know it is your kidney function. As long as

that runs good things should be ok, but I can be wrong. Hope things

get better for you.

Martha

-- In iga-nephropathy , jack king <couldstore@y...>

wrote:

> i like to thank every one for making me feel welcome esp. everyone

who replied to my questions.my access to the net is limited reason

for delay in replying. i am learning more about this condition, just

if i could reply in general to some of yer queries.i find unless i

ask, my neph he will not tell me much.i do not know what any of my

blood test levels are i have one coming back soon i intend to find

out. at present the neph has me on adalat retard 10mg twice aday,

lipitor 10mg one at night, cardura xl 4mg aday, tritace 10mg aday i

beleive he can only treat the BP i do not know what his plan is for

the future.

> what pierre said about life insurance comes as a blow because

myself and my wife have talked about getting cover for a while it

does not look good now. maybe someone else might have gone through

this before.i enjoy reading all the different posting,but dont have

enough time to make reply .

> i have alot of questions yet maybe i could ask 1 or 2 on this

occasion.

>

> 1. alot of cramps mostly during the night and morning after

getting out of bed more than lightly medication ?

> 2. creatinine levels they seem to be very important what do they

actual

> tell you.

> 3.fish oils is it how they slow down the condition and has any one

found them any good if so what kind and in what form.

>

>

> thanks jack king.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Hello Jack,

Let me say welcome. Fish oil can help some people and can be found in

health food store in a pill form which I think is the best way to

take it. The cramping at night I still not sure what cause them but

since my doctor put me on a muscle relaxer 3x a day I don't get them

as often (Still every now and then if i push myself). As for the

creatinine as far as I know it is your kidney function. As long as

that runs good things should be ok, but I can be wrong. Hope things

get better for you.

Martha

-- In iga-nephropathy , jack king <couldstore@y...>

wrote:

> i like to thank every one for making me feel welcome esp. everyone

who replied to my questions.my access to the net is limited reason

for delay in replying. i am learning more about this condition, just

if i could reply in general to some of yer queries.i find unless i

ask, my neph he will not tell me much.i do not know what any of my

blood test levels are i have one coming back soon i intend to find

out. at present the neph has me on adalat retard 10mg twice aday,

lipitor 10mg one at night, cardura xl 4mg aday, tritace 10mg aday i

beleive he can only treat the BP i do not know what his plan is for

the future.

> what pierre said about life insurance comes as a blow because

myself and my wife have talked about getting cover for a while it

does not look good now. maybe someone else might have gone through

this before.i enjoy reading all the different posting,but dont have

enough time to make reply .

> i have alot of questions yet maybe i could ask 1 or 2 on this

occasion.

>

> 1. alot of cramps mostly during the night and morning after

getting out of bed more than lightly medication ?

> 2. creatinine levels they seem to be very important what do they

actual

> tell you.

> 3.fish oils is it how they slow down the condition and has any one

found them any good if so what kind and in what form.

>

>

> thanks jack king.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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today! Download Messenger Now

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