Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Just had to weigh in on this one. We have friends in Oregon whose wife had some type of RAI for a cancer thing in 1993. At that hospital, everything she wore and took with her was incinerated and she was told not to touch her young children for two weeks. We weren't told any of this two weeks ago when two endos tried to push us into immediate RAI for our daughter, who'd just been diagnosed 24 hours earlier. We've found another endo who doesn't even think about it before age 18, and also hasn't tried to scare us with the option of surgery, as the first two endos did. Pam In a message dated 2/20/2002 11:49:40 PM Central Standard Time, nmh@... writes: > You beat me to it but I'll reply anyway. > > My cat, Charlie had his RAI or 1-131 done at their Little Falls, NJ > location two years ago. From their location list it doesn't look like > they have a facility there anymore. Anyway, the first year we did > blood work once a month to make sure all was okay. This was not > necessary but I wanted to be sure he was okay. This year he had his > yearly physical with blood work and he is just fine. > > Prior to treatment, he was given Tap, three times a day (don't recall > the amount). This was disastrous. He'd hide or run away form me and > if I got it in his mouth, he'd slyly spit it out. Lastly there was > the hassle of always having blood work done. Our vet suggested the 1- > 131 option. We explored it and decided to go with it. It worked! > > At the facility the people were extremely nice. It was clear to us > that they liked cats too. I had no qualms about leaving Charlie with > them. I had the option of them giving my cat food or bringing my > own. We brought our own as well as a slept on new blanket and a new > toy. ALL (food, blanket etc.) had to be destroyed after his > treatment. Every day they updated us on how he was doing. > > We had to leave him there 14 days since my daughter was very young at > the time. Typically it was 12 days of care at that facility. I don't > know why they are more stringent with cats than humans. You'd think > they be even more cautious with humans. I don't understand > this ... . Below are the precautions for cats returning home: > > Safety Precautions Following I-131 Therapy > > After being released from therapy, your cat will still possess a very > low level of radioactivity, being voided out primarily via urine and > feces. You don't need to totally isolate your cat from people/pets, > but you must follow these safety precautions for 2 weeks. > > 1. Put a plastic liner in box before adding litter (if cat shreds > liner, don't use it but discard box after 2 weeks). Keep box out of > occupied bedrooms, kitchen & away from unsupervised dogs & children. > Put on rubber gloves when removing soiled litter from box (use gloves > only for this). > > 2. Add flushable litter to box, scoop soiled litter into toilet & > flush. > > 3. If your cat vomits/soils outside the litter box, wear your gloves > & use normal cleaning procedures. Put all soiled paper cleaning > materials in a plastic bag & put in outside trash (rags may be put in > washing machine). > > 4. Anyone pregnant or younger than 16 should not change the soiled > litter. > > 5. Avoid prolonged face-to-face snuggling, and face/hand contact with > your cat's saliva & footpads. Keep your cat in an unoccupied room at > night. Hold, pet & stroke your cat for short periods, then wash your > hands. Wear your gloves to pill the cat, if needed. > > 6. Keep your cat from food preparation areas & your dinner plate. If > your cat gets on kitchen countertops, put your cutting board where it > can't be walked on. > > 7. Instruct children to avoid the cat, and wash their hands if they > touch it. Small children may not remember or understand these rules, > so take extra precautions by having them wash their hands often, > especially before eating. > > 8. Keep the cat confined to your home. Area wildlife, neighbors, > their children and pets, are unaware of the radioactivity in its > urine or feces. > > 9. After 2 weeks, discard any remaining soiled litter & your gloves. > Your cat will have lost essentially all of its radioactivity and you > may return to your normal routine I want to be the kind of friend Jesus would call, at the end of the day, just to talk about nothing.-Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 One thing, too, though, is the dosage they use for cancer is huge. My brother-in-law had thyroid cancer, had a thyroidectomy, and ended up having the RAI twice at that horribly high dose. He had to stay in a lead-lined room for three days each time. They put his food through a little slot in the door on disposable utensils. The doctors were in " space " suits when they examined him! And, yes, all his clothes were incinerated afterwards. Holly Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS Just had to weigh in on this one. We have friends in Oregon whose wife had some type of RAI for a cancer thing in 1993. At that hospital, everything she wore and took with her was incinerated and she was told not to touch her young children for two weeks. We weren't told any of this two weeks ago when two endos tried to push us into immediate RAI for our daughter, who'd just been diagnosed 24 hours earlier. We've found another endo who doesn't even think about it before age 18, and also hasn't tried to scare us with the option of surgery, as the first two endos did. Pam In a message dated 2/20/2002 11:49:40 PM Central Standard Time, nmh@... writes: > You beat me to it but I'll reply anyway. > > My cat, Charlie had his RAI or 1-131 done at their Little Falls, NJ > location two years ago. From their location list it doesn't look like > they have a facility there anymore. Anyway, the first year we did > blood work once a month to make sure all was okay. This was not > necessary but I wanted to be sure he was okay. This year he had his > yearly physical with blood work and he is just fine. > > Prior to treatment, he was given Tap, three times a day (don't recall > the amount). This was disastrous. He'd hide or run away form me and > if I got it in his mouth, he'd slyly spit it out. Lastly there was > the hassle of always having blood work done. Our vet suggested the 1- > 131 option. We explored it and decided to go with it. It worked! > > At the facility the people were extremely nice. It was clear to us > that they liked cats too. I had no qualms about leaving Charlie with > them. I had the option of them giving my cat food or bringing my > own. We brought our own as well as a slept on new blanket and a new > toy. ALL (food, blanket etc.) had to be destroyed after his > treatment. Every day they updated us on how he was doing. > > We had to leave him there 14 days since my daughter was very young at > the time. Typically it was 12 days of care at that facility. I don't > know why they are more stringent with cats than humans. You'd think > they be even more cautious with humans. I don't understand > this ... . Below are the precautions for cats returning home: > > Safety Precautions Following I-131 Therapy > > After being released from therapy, your cat will still possess a very > low level of radioactivity, being voided out primarily via urine and > feces. You don't need to totally isolate your cat from people/pets, > but you must follow these safety precautions for 2 weeks. > > 1. Put a plastic liner in box before adding litter (if cat shreds > liner, don't use it but discard box after 2 weeks). Keep box out of > occupied bedrooms, kitchen & away from unsupervised dogs & children. > Put on rubber gloves when removing soiled litter from box (use gloves > only for this). > > 2. Add flushable litter to box, scoop soiled litter into toilet & > flush. > > 3. If your cat vomits/soils outside the litter box, wear your gloves > & use normal cleaning procedures. Put all soiled paper cleaning > materials in a plastic bag & put in outside trash (rags may be put in > washing machine). > > 4. Anyone pregnant or younger than 16 should not change the soiled > litter. > > 5. Avoid prolonged face-to-face snuggling, and face/hand contact with > your cat's saliva & footpads. Keep your cat in an unoccupied room at > night. Hold, pet & stroke your cat for short periods, then wash your > hands. Wear your gloves to pill the cat, if needed. > > 6. Keep your cat from food preparation areas & your dinner plate. If > your cat gets on kitchen countertops, put your cutting board where it > can't be walked on. > > 7. Instruct children to avoid the cat, and wash their hands if they > touch it. Small children may not remember or understand these rules, > so take extra precautions by having them wash their hands often, > especially before eating. > > 8. Keep the cat confined to your home. Area wildlife, neighbors, > their children and pets, are unaware of the radioactivity in its > urine or feces. > > 9. After 2 weeks, discard any remaining soiled litter & your gloves. > Your cat will have lost essentially all of its radioactivity and you > may return to your normal routine I want to be the kind of friend Jesus would call, at the end of the day, just to talk about nothing.-Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 One thing, too, though, is the dosage they use for cancer is huge. My brother-in-law had thyroid cancer, had a thyroidectomy, and ended up having the RAI twice at that horribly high dose. He had to stay in a lead-lined room for three days each time. They put his food through a little slot in the door on disposable utensils. The doctors were in " space " suits when they examined him! And, yes, all his clothes were incinerated afterwards. Holly Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS Just had to weigh in on this one. We have friends in Oregon whose wife had some type of RAI for a cancer thing in 1993. At that hospital, everything she wore and took with her was incinerated and she was told not to touch her young children for two weeks. We weren't told any of this two weeks ago when two endos tried to push us into immediate RAI for our daughter, who'd just been diagnosed 24 hours earlier. We've found another endo who doesn't even think about it before age 18, and also hasn't tried to scare us with the option of surgery, as the first two endos did. Pam In a message dated 2/20/2002 11:49:40 PM Central Standard Time, nmh@... writes: > You beat me to it but I'll reply anyway. > > My cat, Charlie had his RAI or 1-131 done at their Little Falls, NJ > location two years ago. From their location list it doesn't look like > they have a facility there anymore. Anyway, the first year we did > blood work once a month to make sure all was okay. This was not > necessary but I wanted to be sure he was okay. This year he had his > yearly physical with blood work and he is just fine. > > Prior to treatment, he was given Tap, three times a day (don't recall > the amount). This was disastrous. He'd hide or run away form me and > if I got it in his mouth, he'd slyly spit it out. Lastly there was > the hassle of always having blood work done. Our vet suggested the 1- > 131 option. We explored it and decided to go with it. It worked! > > At the facility the people were extremely nice. It was clear to us > that they liked cats too. I had no qualms about leaving Charlie with > them. I had the option of them giving my cat food or bringing my > own. We brought our own as well as a slept on new blanket and a new > toy. ALL (food, blanket etc.) had to be destroyed after his > treatment. Every day they updated us on how he was doing. > > We had to leave him there 14 days since my daughter was very young at > the time. Typically it was 12 days of care at that facility. I don't > know why they are more stringent with cats than humans. You'd think > they be even more cautious with humans. I don't understand > this ... . Below are the precautions for cats returning home: > > Safety Precautions Following I-131 Therapy > > After being released from therapy, your cat will still possess a very > low level of radioactivity, being voided out primarily via urine and > feces. You don't need to totally isolate your cat from people/pets, > but you must follow these safety precautions for 2 weeks. > > 1. Put a plastic liner in box before adding litter (if cat shreds > liner, don't use it but discard box after 2 weeks). Keep box out of > occupied bedrooms, kitchen & away from unsupervised dogs & children. > Put on rubber gloves when removing soiled litter from box (use gloves > only for this). > > 2. Add flushable litter to box, scoop soiled litter into toilet & > flush. > > 3. If your cat vomits/soils outside the litter box, wear your gloves > & use normal cleaning procedures. Put all soiled paper cleaning > materials in a plastic bag & put in outside trash (rags may be put in > washing machine). > > 4. Anyone pregnant or younger than 16 should not change the soiled > litter. > > 5. Avoid prolonged face-to-face snuggling, and face/hand contact with > your cat's saliva & footpads. Keep your cat in an unoccupied room at > night. Hold, pet & stroke your cat for short periods, then wash your > hands. Wear your gloves to pill the cat, if needed. > > 6. Keep your cat from food preparation areas & your dinner plate. If > your cat gets on kitchen countertops, put your cutting board where it > can't be walked on. > > 7. Instruct children to avoid the cat, and wash their hands if they > touch it. Small children may not remember or understand these rules, > so take extra precautions by having them wash their hands often, > especially before eating. > > 8. Keep the cat confined to your home. Area wildlife, neighbors, > their children and pets, are unaware of the radioactivity in its > urine or feces. > > 9. After 2 weeks, discard any remaining soiled litter & your gloves. > Your cat will have lost essentially all of its radioactivity and you > may return to your normal routine I want to be the kind of friend Jesus would call, at the end of the day, just to talk about nothing.-Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hi Pam, It seems that as time goes by, more and more docs and endos are neglecting to actually tell people about the dangers to others when we have had RAI. I am hearing more and more often from people who have just gone through RAI in the last year that says they were given no precautions...one woman who had it in '95 told her doctor she would be caring for her new born grandchild and did she need to be concerned, he actually laughed and told her no. This just fries my behind! I am go glad your daughter has parents that truly are looking out for her the way you and your husband are! I could not imagine having RAI as a young teenager and having to deal with the repercussions for all those years down the road. Take care, Jody _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 For and Jody, And in my case, we're trying to avoid RAI for our daughter, only 13. To date we know of no long term studies of the effects of RAI on children. One endo told me the risk for tumor doubles, but that since the risk is " so small " to begin with, doubling small isn't that big a deal. Hmmm. This same doctor admitted that it's only been in the last 5-7 years that people have been more willing to let their children undergo this type of treatment. Oddly, there are studies out on adults who received RAI. My problem is this: if an adult say, in their mid 40s, receives RAI, then develops a tumor 30 years later, it might never be discovered due to mortality rates and other diseases that an elderly person might have. My daughter, on the other hand, would only be in her mid 40s in another 30 years. She'd still have lots of life left and I don't want to risk that remaining life. Thanks for the input on cats and dosages. Still, we hope to never have to use RAI for our child. Pam In a message dated 2/26/2002 2:46:57 PM Central Standard Time, luckystrike@... writes: > Hi , > I bet if they had to isolate people for the same amount of time they > isolate > cats for, RAI use would drop down to nil...the cost would skyrocket, and > people would be swayed to NOT do this because they wouldn't stay away from > family, friends, and work for that long. Oh to live in a *perfect* world. > > For these reasons, I think that is why so many people are not being given > the true facts and precautions these days before going into RAI. Look at > what Elaine said, she contaminated her whole lab and took, I believe she > said, 6 weeks for her to not be doing that anymore! > > Things to ponder I think. That and how to use this information to make RAI > > harder, if not impossible to get. > Jody I want to be the kind of friend Jesus would call, at the end of the day, just to talk about nothing.-Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 For and Jody, And in my case, we're trying to avoid RAI for our daughter, only 13. To date we know of no long term studies of the effects of RAI on children. One endo told me the risk for tumor doubles, but that since the risk is " so small " to begin with, doubling small isn't that big a deal. Hmmm. This same doctor admitted that it's only been in the last 5-7 years that people have been more willing to let their children undergo this type of treatment. Oddly, there are studies out on adults who received RAI. My problem is this: if an adult say, in their mid 40s, receives RAI, then develops a tumor 30 years later, it might never be discovered due to mortality rates and other diseases that an elderly person might have. My daughter, on the other hand, would only be in her mid 40s in another 30 years. She'd still have lots of life left and I don't want to risk that remaining life. Thanks for the input on cats and dosages. Still, we hope to never have to use RAI for our child. Pam In a message dated 2/26/2002 2:46:57 PM Central Standard Time, luckystrike@... writes: > Hi , > I bet if they had to isolate people for the same amount of time they > isolate > cats for, RAI use would drop down to nil...the cost would skyrocket, and > people would be swayed to NOT do this because they wouldn't stay away from > family, friends, and work for that long. Oh to live in a *perfect* world. > > For these reasons, I think that is why so many people are not being given > the true facts and precautions these days before going into RAI. Look at > what Elaine said, she contaminated her whole lab and took, I believe she > said, 6 weeks for her to not be doing that anymore! > > Things to ponder I think. That and how to use this information to make RAI > > harder, if not impossible to get. > Jody I want to be the kind of friend Jesus would call, at the end of the day, just to talk about nothing.-Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Hi Pam- I can't remember if anyone responded to this or not. They use a much higher dose of RAI for thyroid cancer than they do to treat Graves' so that might have been part of the reason that you noticed such a difference between how your friend was instructed to stay away from people immediately post-RAI and how the rest of us were instructed. Regardless, if they isolate cats treated for " Graves' " for 3-4 weeks, they should do it for people too. Take care, > Just had to weigh in on this one. We have friends in Oregon whose wife had > some type of RAI for a cancer thing in 1993. At that hospital, everything > she wore and took with her was incinerated and she was told not to touch her > young children for two weeks. We weren't told any of this two weeks ago when > two endos tried to push us into immediate RAI for our daughter, who'd just > been diagnosed 24 hours earlier. We've found another endo who doesn't even > think about it before age 18, and also hasn't tried to scare us with the > option of surgery, as the first two endos did. > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Hi , I bet if they had to isolate people for the same amount of time they isolate cats for, RAI use would drop down to nil...the cost would skyrocket, and people would be swayed to NOT do this because they wouldn't stay away from family, friends, and work for that long. Oh to live in a *perfect* world. For these reasons, I think that is why so many people are not being given the true facts and precautions these days before going into RAI. Look at what Elaine said, she contaminated her whole lab and took, I believe she said, 6 weeks for her to not be doing that anymore! Things to ponder I think. That and how to use this information to make RAI harder, if not impossible to get. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Hi , I bet if they had to isolate people for the same amount of time they isolate cats for, RAI use would drop down to nil...the cost would skyrocket, and people would be swayed to NOT do this because they wouldn't stay away from family, friends, and work for that long. Oh to live in a *perfect* world. For these reasons, I think that is why so many people are not being given the true facts and precautions these days before going into RAI. Look at what Elaine said, she contaminated her whole lab and took, I believe she said, 6 weeks for her to not be doing that anymore! Things to ponder I think. That and how to use this information to make RAI harder, if not impossible to get. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 I'm on board for this!! I was talking to Jody just last week about a possible " awareness campaign " . If it's a ribbon that we all decide on, then do we have someone that can create a ribbon graphic that we can all use to put on our websites? (I shudder to think what it would look like if I did it...LOL) Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 I'm on board for this!! I was talking to Jody just last week about a possible " awareness campaign " . If it's a ribbon that we all decide on, then do we have someone that can create a ribbon graphic that we can all use to put on our websites? (I shudder to think what it would look like if I did it...LOL) Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 I'm on board for this!! I was talking to Jody just last week about a possible " awareness campaign " . If it's a ribbon that we all decide on, then do we have someone that can create a ribbon graphic that we can all use to put on our websites? (I shudder to think what it would look like if I did it...LOL) Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody, The big question eh? How to get RAI the cautionary attention that this procedure deserves. We wouldn't want anybody to lose any money over it right? But its ok for some of us to lose the quality of our lives. Perhaps there should be a loose association and we should adopt some symbol (people are very good at coming up with symbols. Pink ribbons, yellow ribbons, red ribbons, mirror of Venus, etc.................) All it would take is for everybody who has been injured by this procedure and all their family members to wear such a thing in public and if it caught on somebody on the news wire would pick up on it. Or is this wishful thinking? Laurel Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS Hi , I bet if they had to isolate people for the same amount of time they isolate cats for, RAI use would drop down to nil...the cost would skyrocket, and people would be swayed to NOT do this because they wouldn't stay away from family, friends, and work for that long. Oh to live in a *perfect* world. For these reasons, I think that is why so many people are not being given the true facts and precautions these days before going into RAI. Look at what Elaine said, she contaminated her whole lab and took, I believe she said, 6 weeks for her to not be doing that anymore! Things to ponder I think. That and how to use this information to make RAI harder, if not impossible to get. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody, The big question eh? How to get RAI the cautionary attention that this procedure deserves. We wouldn't want anybody to lose any money over it right? But its ok for some of us to lose the quality of our lives. Perhaps there should be a loose association and we should adopt some symbol (people are very good at coming up with symbols. Pink ribbons, yellow ribbons, red ribbons, mirror of Venus, etc.................) All it would take is for everybody who has been injured by this procedure and all their family members to wear such a thing in public and if it caught on somebody on the news wire would pick up on it. Or is this wishful thinking? Laurel Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS Hi , I bet if they had to isolate people for the same amount of time they isolate cats for, RAI use would drop down to nil...the cost would skyrocket, and people would be swayed to NOT do this because they wouldn't stay away from family, friends, and work for that long. Oh to live in a *perfect* world. For these reasons, I think that is why so many people are not being given the true facts and precautions these days before going into RAI. Look at what Elaine said, she contaminated her whole lab and took, I believe she said, 6 weeks for her to not be doing that anymore! Things to ponder I think. That and how to use this information to make RAI harder, if not impossible to get. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody, The big question eh? How to get RAI the cautionary attention that this procedure deserves. We wouldn't want anybody to lose any money over it right? But its ok for some of us to lose the quality of our lives. Perhaps there should be a loose association and we should adopt some symbol (people are very good at coming up with symbols. Pink ribbons, yellow ribbons, red ribbons, mirror of Venus, etc.................) All it would take is for everybody who has been injured by this procedure and all their family members to wear such a thing in public and if it caught on somebody on the news wire would pick up on it. Or is this wishful thinking? Laurel Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS Hi , I bet if they had to isolate people for the same amount of time they isolate cats for, RAI use would drop down to nil...the cost would skyrocket, and people would be swayed to NOT do this because they wouldn't stay away from family, friends, and work for that long. Oh to live in a *perfect* world. For these reasons, I think that is why so many people are not being given the true facts and precautions these days before going into RAI. Look at what Elaine said, she contaminated her whole lab and took, I believe she said, 6 weeks for her to not be doing that anymore! Things to ponder I think. That and how to use this information to make RAI harder, if not impossible to get. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody, January is Thyroid Awareness Month....and the color for that is green. (I think it's the AACE site that has something about Thyroid Awareness Month?) I actually bought a butterfly pin that is made of polished stone that I wear as my " thyroid statement " !! Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Hi Laurel, Sure, I WANT everyone making money off of RAI while hurting us to lose money, lose their liscense to practice, be held libel and on and on and on...but since that is not going to happen, especially since radiation on humans is legal and deemed safe by our government...I think the ribbon is a great idea...we already have a National thyroid month...isn't it in Feb. <someone?>? I would do the ribbons, but I think they should be the glow in the dark ones, but what color...red, green, hmmmm what is the glowing color of radiation? Also, do we put a poll out there for others to see if we can make this take off? Comments please. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Hi Laurel, Sure, I WANT everyone making money off of RAI while hurting us to lose money, lose their liscense to practice, be held libel and on and on and on...but since that is not going to happen, especially since radiation on humans is legal and deemed safe by our government...I think the ribbon is a great idea...we already have a National thyroid month...isn't it in Feb. <someone?>? I would do the ribbons, but I think they should be the glow in the dark ones, but what color...red, green, hmmmm what is the glowing color of radiation? Also, do we put a poll out there for others to see if we can make this take off? Comments please. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody - Definitely glow in the dark, it would be the only appropriate suggestion! Green, I'm thinking. If you could make them blink on and off, that'd be even better! LOL - Can't you just see them catching on at the s or something? Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS >Hi Laurel, >Sure, I WANT everyone making money off of RAI while hurting us to lose >money, lose their liscense to practice, be held libel and on and on and >on...but since that is not going to happen, especially since radiation on >humans is legal and deemed safe by our government...I think the ribbon is a >great idea...we already have a National thyroid month...isn't it in Feb. ><someone?>? > >I would do the ribbons, but I think they should be the glow in the dark >ones, but what color...red, green, hmmmm what is the glowing color of >radiation? > >Also, do we put a poll out there for others to see if we can make this take >off? Comments please. >Jody > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > >------------------------------------- >The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. >Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. >---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > >Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of >the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody - Definitely glow in the dark, it would be the only appropriate suggestion! Green, I'm thinking. If you could make them blink on and off, that'd be even better! LOL - Can't you just see them catching on at the s or something? Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS >Hi Laurel, >Sure, I WANT everyone making money off of RAI while hurting us to lose >money, lose their liscense to practice, be held libel and on and on and >on...but since that is not going to happen, especially since radiation on >humans is legal and deemed safe by our government...I think the ribbon is a >great idea...we already have a National thyroid month...isn't it in Feb. ><someone?>? > >I would do the ribbons, but I think they should be the glow in the dark >ones, but what color...red, green, hmmmm what is the glowing color of >radiation? > >Also, do we put a poll out there for others to see if we can make this take >off? Comments please. >Jody > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > >------------------------------------- >The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. >Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. >---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > >Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of >the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody - Definitely glow in the dark, it would be the only appropriate suggestion! Green, I'm thinking. If you could make them blink on and off, that'd be even better! LOL - Can't you just see them catching on at the s or something? Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS >Hi Laurel, >Sure, I WANT everyone making money off of RAI while hurting us to lose >money, lose their liscense to practice, be held libel and on and on and >on...but since that is not going to happen, especially since radiation on >humans is legal and deemed safe by our government...I think the ribbon is a >great idea...we already have a National thyroid month...isn't it in Feb. ><someone?>? > >I would do the ribbons, but I think they should be the glow in the dark >ones, but what color...red, green, hmmmm what is the glowing color of >radiation? > >Also, do we put a poll out there for others to see if we can make this take >off? Comments please. >Jody > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > >------------------------------------- >The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. >Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. >---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > >Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of >the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody, I know that you are fighting your own battle for your own health but I just HAVE to thank you for the number of times you have made me smile. Glow in the dark is great! You have a wicked sense of humor girl. Wasn't there something in the 60's about using radium dials on watches and didn't THAT cause problems as well. Not ok to use radiation in watches but ok to use them in our bodies. Can we get black armbands that glow in the dark? Or how about a " hazardous radioactive waste " sign. I mean how many of us were " wasted " by radiation? Laurel Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS Hi Laurel, Sure, I WANT everyone making money off of RAI while hurting us to lose money, lose their liscense to practice, be held libel and on and on and on...but since that is not going to happen, especially since radiation on humans is legal and deemed safe by our government...I think the ribbon is a great idea...we already have a National thyroid month...isn't it in Feb. <someone?>? I would do the ribbons, but I think they should be the glow in the dark ones, but what color...red, green, hmmmm what is the glowing color of radiation? Also, do we put a poll out there for others to see if we can make this take off? Comments please. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Jody, I know that you are fighting your own battle for your own health but I just HAVE to thank you for the number of times you have made me smile. Glow in the dark is great! You have a wicked sense of humor girl. Wasn't there something in the 60's about using radium dials on watches and didn't THAT cause problems as well. Not ok to use radiation in watches but ok to use them in our bodies. Can we get black armbands that glow in the dark? Or how about a " hazardous radioactive waste " sign. I mean how many of us were " wasted " by radiation? Laurel Re: Re: RAI and pets & HUMANS Hi Laurel, Sure, I WANT everyone making money off of RAI while hurting us to lose money, lose their liscense to practice, be held libel and on and on and on...but since that is not going to happen, especially since radiation on humans is legal and deemed safe by our government...I think the ribbon is a great idea...we already have a National thyroid month...isn't it in Feb. <someone?>? I would do the ribbons, but I think they should be the glow in the dark ones, but what color...red, green, hmmmm what is the glowing color of radiation? Also, do we put a poll out there for others to see if we can make this take off? Comments please. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Laurel, Well something florescent that would be the sign for radiation, maybe with that triangular symbol used for radiation...I would do it! Honestly, I think the BIG thing that we have been talking about, that needs to find a way to someone who could expose this and throw a monkey works into the whole shabang is the way our cats are dealt with after being given much lower doses of I-131. But people are being laughed at when asking if it is dangerous by their own doctors...and I have recently read 2 accounts of this! If, as in Minnesota where lives, the state law is so strict with our pets and isolation...why are they not so strict with humans. Something in this does not make sense, and is stuck in my head as something that is very very very important! Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Laurel, Well something florescent that would be the sign for radiation, maybe with that triangular symbol used for radiation...I would do it! Honestly, I think the BIG thing that we have been talking about, that needs to find a way to someone who could expose this and throw a monkey works into the whole shabang is the way our cats are dealt with after being given much lower doses of I-131. But people are being laughed at when asking if it is dangerous by their own doctors...and I have recently read 2 accounts of this! If, as in Minnesota where lives, the state law is so strict with our pets and isolation...why are they not so strict with humans. Something in this does not make sense, and is stuck in my head as something that is very very very important! Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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